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Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:13 PM
I'm just wondering how many people here are actually trying to live in the wild away from society eventually and isnt just a hobby? Right now im Going on training runs to put my book smarts to practice so i can actually live in the wild evetually once i feel confident enough to do so. Am i the only one whos crazy?
No, you have some company here. For starters, there's Rick, 2dumb, Sarge, wareagle........... Not necessarily living in the wild - just crazy.
Don't mind Ken. He's off his meds again. There are a lot of members on here that live off grid. Some are so remote that they seldom see another person. Stick around. There are a lot here you can learn from.
oldsoldier
08-25-2009, 06:27 PM
I'm just wondering how many people here are actually trying to live in the wild away from society eventually and isnt just a hobby? Right now im Going on training runs to put my book smarts to practice so i can actually live in the wild evetually once i feel confident enough to do so. Am i the only one whos crazy?
Solanum..... if you look back there are probibily several dozen people who have expressed a desire to go native in the short time I have been a member here. With the pace of life today and all the crazy things that are happening on a daily basis, I think there are probibily hundreds if not thousands of people who would love to tell society to take a hike and head for the mountians. And it ain't to get a busch beer either! I am working on purchasing the land for a "bug out" retreat, to get outta most of society, But am gettin just to darn old to play mountian man and go live in the woods completely unless TSHTF then ???? Unlike some others you at least are planning on taking "baby steps" to start and go for several shakedown trips to see if you can do it, instead of packing your buck knife and headin for the woods. As for beein' crazy?? Have you read some of the posts scattered through the entire forum??? All I can say is welcome to the ASYLUM meds are passed out right after dinner!!
oldsoldier
08-25-2009, 06:28 PM
No, you have some company here. For starters, there's Rick, 2dumb, Sarge, wareagle........... Not necessarily living in the wild - just crazy.
Ken I thought we were friends??? you left the biggest nut out of the asylum!
Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Well i already have former Survival training Because i was in the military and ive been reading up on for more than a year in intervals but most my actually Training which i have practiced is ocean survival and i want to go for the forest area like yellowstone or something but i would like to find a mentor to teach me some of the lessons of the wild and give me some first hand experiance.
No, you have some company here. For starters, there's Rick, 2dumb, Sarge, wareagle........... Not necessarily living in the wild - just crazy.
Ken I thought we were friends??? you left the biggest nut out of the asylum!
And OLDSOLDIER! Dang, how could I have forgotten him? :innocent: Maybe it has something to do with an overdue danish (the desert, not the people) delivery. :sneaky2:
Well ......... but most my actually Training which i have practiced is ocean survival
Fun, wasn't it? :clap: :innocent:
Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:37 PM
some parts but mostly i didnt want to be outside in the gulfs 100+ degree temps
some parts but mostly i didnt want to be outside in the gulfs 100+ degree temps
Try it in New England. In March. It's a little bit cooler, I'll tell ya'. :)
Have you considered working for a survival instructor? If you have someone in the field that you respect, you might consider working for them in exchange for their teaching you.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:43 PM
well i was in the persian gulf... in the middle east. i'm planning to go to Ouachita National Forest first though.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:49 PM
i wouldnt know where to find anyone like that rick but yea id be intrested in doing that for sure
oldsoldier
08-25-2009, 06:52 PM
i wouldnt know where to find anyone like that rick but yea id be intrested in doing that for sure
Here's a suggestion if there are any outfitters or guide services in your area contact them and maybe "volunteer" to work for them on week-end trips in exchange for them teaching you some of their knowledge.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 06:55 PM
i live in dallas man theres not alot of people like that here that i know of in the big city lol
wareagle69
08-25-2009, 07:03 PM
well solanum, you sound like you are prepping for this the right way, finally someone worth talking to about this.
Go to your local book store. There are tons of books out there and each one has an author. If there's one you like then go for it.
Here's a list of survival schools in Texas - Scroll down...
http://www.hollowtop.com/Schools_North_America.htm
wildWoman
08-25-2009, 07:08 PM
We "live in the wild" and it doesn't incorporate living in a shrub shelter, making our daily fire by rubbing sticks, or drinking out of mud puddles.
My humble opinion is that the dream to "live simply in the woods" for extended periods of time (=years and decades) by just "survival methods" is destined to remain just that - a dream. If the people who were seriously wanting to live that way would REALLY want to do it, they'd be either living already in a no electricity shack, a 5-hour hike to the next road, or out there doing it.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:09 PM
yea right now im reading survival wisdom and know-how from stackpole books. its not evry good though lol i dont reconmend it. i need to get a copy of the sas survival manuel
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:10 PM
We "live in the wild" and it doesn't incorporate living in a shrub shelter, making our daily fire by rubbing sticks, or drinking out of mud puddles.
My humble opinion is that the dream to "live simply in the woods" for extended periods of time (=years and decades) by just "survival methods" is destined to remain just that - a dream. If the people who were seriously wanting to live that way would REALLY want to do it, they'd be either living already in a no electricity shack, a 5-hour hike to the next road, or out there doing it.
its not about where you live its about the way society is now and not wanting to be apart of it anymore
wildWoman
08-25-2009, 07:18 PM
I don't I ever considered myself particulaly integrated into society. But you'd be fooling yourself if you think by going off to live in the woods you'd be escaping society. You'd still be buying clothes, food, hardware; using forms of transportation; using medical services; reading books etc etc. In my mind, that keeps you firmly entangled with society.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:26 PM
your right about that but by living on my own terms and not by what is the "acceptable means of living" and being able to go and live by the philosphy which i deem is right not what is predetermined by those who have gone before me or those in power. As for staying connected to society that is true but i wouldnt want to be completely isolated from it anyways, because then i would lose all the people i love. doing this is my personal quest to become closer to god or whatever is out there and if thats what i want to do who are you to tell me otherwise?
Careful - Solanum. She lives off grid and knows what she's talking about. You might want to listen instead of talk on this one.
Sourdough
08-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Solanum, Living in the wilderness, is not much different than living on a very, very rural Farm, a Dirt poor farm, very basic living. I find it has almost nothing to do with survival. And I would say studying survival stuff is a waste of time, well first aid is good to know. Living in the wilderness is about fixing things, inventing things, figuring out ways to get the job done. It is hard work, but it is satisfying work. If you don't split wood you die, if you don't haul water you die, if you don't plan your food right you could die. It about being smart, careful, and mostly hard manual labor.....and that is the truth as to why so few people do it...it is the hard MANUAL labor that turns people OFF. That said, Go For, even if you fail, and return to NON-Wilderness.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:38 PM
well im not planning on living in a shrub shelter i want to get land and build a house on it eventually and become self sufficient on it... i'm not saying you dont have more experiance on the subject because you most certainly prob do im just saying you shouldnt tell me not to try and do what i think would bring me happiness you know. im more than willing to learn from anyone whos willing to teach. but ive got alot of sarcasim and unhelpful remarks already and im just trying to recieve infomation...
wildWoman
08-25-2009, 07:39 PM
I'm not telling you to do otherwise. Go ahead. I just subscribe to walking the walk instead of talking the talk and do not know of any person living in survival mode, out of free will, as a permanent thing. So when somebody starts asking about stuff like this on an internet forum, I wonder why that person isn't out there doing it right this minute or packing their stuff at the very least.
In my experience, the dream of living "in the wild" is held by many people who live in the city. They think about it, talk about it, even plan it, but don't even get as far as moving to some deserted country road 20 mils from a tiny village. So I tend to not take this kind of stuff serious UNLESS the person who's asking is busy right this minute taking concrete, practical steps toward it. And sorry, on the internet I've encountered precious few. Great if you end up being one more.
See my remark to CDRock on the sarcasm.
wildWoman
08-25-2009, 07:43 PM
Solanum, Living in the wilderness, is not much different than living on a very, very rural Farm, a Dirt poor farm, very basic living. I find it has almost nothing to do with survival. And I would say studying survival stuff is a waste of time, well first aid is good to know. Living in the wilderness is about fixing things, inventing things, figuring out ways to get the job done. It is hard work, but it is satisfying work. If you don't split wood you die, if you don't haul water you die, if you don't plan your food right you could die. It about being smart, careful, and mostly hard manual labor.....and that is the truth as to why so few people do it...it is the hard MANUAL labor that turns people OFF. That said, Go For, even if you fail, and return to NON-Wilderness.
Hope, you've hit the nail on the head. This should be printed out, framed, hung up on the wall and studied every night by anyone wanting to "go and live in the wilderness". That's exactly what it's all about, folks.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:49 PM
your right i need first hand experiance and hopefully i can get it. i'm planning a trip to Ouachita National Forest and i plan to stay there atleast a week on my first trip just to test out The book knowdledge ive learnt... i dont have a death wish. i plan to become educated in the field before i do anything to crazy :P
When do you plan to do your forest retreat? You can always practice your skills over a week-end camping trip. Hopefully, you are already doing that. Either way, take along more than you need. You don't have to use it but if you need it, then it's there.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 07:54 PM
ive actually been camping two weekend out of the past 4 with my gf whos majoring in biology with a emphisise on biology sadly one weekend it rained so bad we had to leave cause the lake was flooding. i plan on going in a couple of months once the temps drop a little bit
That's cool. Pay attention to what you are using and what you are missing. If you do enough of the week-enders then you should be fairly set by the time you hit the forest.
Solanum
08-25-2009, 08:05 PM
well i have right now in my pack a marine compactable spade, various knifes and a machette, fishing equipment ,cordage for snares,rope, first aid kit, compass, multi tool, trash and ziploc bags, camel pack, a bunch of waterproof tins filled with various things. i still need a collaspable saw and a shotgun or rifle i havent really chosen yet which do you think would be better? its hard to take down larger game with a shotgun but then again ive multiple small game animals with a shotgun in nests before. its a hard choice
DOGMAN
08-25-2009, 08:08 PM
I say go for it. Stop talking and start living. I live in the mountains just outside of Yellowstone surrounded by wilderness. In the winter I have to run sled dogs just to get in and out of my place, and I feed my dogs and my family with what I kill, and we heat our home with wood we cut and split, and for a living I guide people into the wilderness. All in all, I'd say my life is back-breakinging tough, I often go months without a real day-off and there is not a day that goes by that I don't think about moving to a city- living in a condo and working a 9-5 with weekends off. But, unfortuantly for me that ain't a reality. I'd say try it...see what you think. For me, the pain is worth it, because every now and then- I forget about the struggle of survival and get to see the magic of nature and experience a mystical connection with the universe.
Sourdough
08-25-2009, 08:10 PM
One more thing people should know, is you never get ahead. If you work it employment and save some of your money you should have an ever increasing size pot of ahead (Cash). When you homestead you never have any money, every spring you start over, in point of fact you could say everyday you start over. You might have several months of Split Wood in the "BANK". You might have several months of "MOOSE Meat" in the Bank. You accumulate some tools over a lifetime. But you are always POOR. If you are lucky and don't loose your land, your cabin does not burn down, if your lucky, when your 70 years old everything you own, you can see out the window. Everything you see is your pension, is your retirement. And even at 70 you have to work hard everyday. And yes, you do get to live next door to God.
And yes, you do get to live next door to God.
Watch. Rick is gonna' claim he's his neighbor.:innocent:
Solanum
08-25-2009, 08:14 PM
For me, the pain is worth it, because every now and then- I forget about the struggle of survival and get to see the magic of nature and experience a mystical connection with the universe.
Thats deep man. God shows himself though nature and science and i want to see it first hand.. i dont care what i have at 70 because truth be told the world may not even be around then
Hope - Those were pretty good posts. Good enough that I copied them into their own thread titled, Living in the Wilderness - How it Really Works. I'll change the title to anything you like. I made it a sticky and closed the thread so if you want to change anything or add to it, just let me know.
Now we can point the wannabe's to the thread and let them digest that when they want to "survive in the wild". Oh, yeah, you had addressed the first post to Solanum so I took his name out. Let me know if you want any changes.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8382
Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. He lives next door to me.
crashdive123
08-25-2009, 08:22 PM
Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. He lives next door to me.
Rick, I've been meaning to tell you to cut the grass.
Sourdough
08-25-2009, 08:30 PM
How odd you did that, I was thinking someone should take the meat of many members posts and make a mini-manual on living in the wilderness. Many members have contributed great wisdom to this subject. I truely am shocked you did that, as I was going to suggest someone do it. We have a lot of awesome posts on this subject. Good on you Rick....you Da'Man.
crashdive123
08-25-2009, 08:31 PM
If you come across other posts that you think belong, let us know.
So, great things and me...odd? shocked? (walks away mumbling) I'm bettin' on the bear next time.
pocomoonskyeyes
08-25-2009, 09:30 PM
Solanum I just want to say you have gotten some of the best most serious advice I've seen given here,in any post in any thread that I've read. I'm almost ashamed to throw my words in when theirs speak so much and so loudly and ring so true. You have gotten advice from three that live the life,that walk the walk and talk the talk. They have nothing to prove with words, their actions speak so much more. I really respect these three whether I have ever said it or not,Wild Woman, Hope, and JasonMontana. Even if they are being sarcastic (they aren't not really),it still pays to listen to them....I am.
DOGMAN
08-25-2009, 09:38 PM
Solanum I just want to say you have gotten some of the best most serious advice I've seen given here,in any post in any thread that I've read. I'm almost ashamed to throw my words in when theirs speak so much and so loudly and ring so true. You have gotten advice from three that live the life,that walk the walk and talk the talk. They have nothing to prove with words, their actions speak so much more. I really respect these three whether I have ever said it or not,Wild Woman, Hope, and JasonMontana. Even if they are being sarcastic (they aren't not really),it still pays to listen to them....I am.
Thanks for the knod and respect...but, honestly I feel like a city slicker compared to WW and Hope. I make it to town regularly and I live in the tropics compared to them...
wildWoman
08-26-2009, 12:31 PM
I was thinking someone should take the meat of many members posts and make a mini-manual on living in the wilderness.
Cool idea, Hope! I'm glad your little eye-opener got to be a sticky!! It does say it all.
It really is the one thing that somehow people who toy with the idea of living in the bush are so reluctant to accept: that all this wilderness survival stuff has really nothing to do with living in the woods.
As you have pointed out a few times and as I say in one of my blogs, the best way to learn if it's your cup of tea is to move to the outskirts of some forlorn little village, rent a tumble-down cabin and live there for at least a year.
That will teach the necessary skills one needs for living in the bush: making do with a totally different (largely absent) social life, learning to rely on one's ingenuity, learning to fix all sorts of things one doesn't have the faintest interest in fixing but nobody else is there to do it, handling an assortment of tools and machinery, what makes good firewood and what doesn't, the many different ways to set up ones household in the bush, making money in different ways than one was accustomed to before, living from hand to mouth, learning about gardening, learning different ways of building cabins, learning to get by without electricity, learning to get by without a doctor, dentist or vet within easy distance, finding out the pros and cons of different communication systems....These are the absolutely vital skills you need to possess in at least a rudimentary way if you hope to live in the bush longterm.
You see, it is really none of the things most discussed on this forum. One of the reasons why people end up throwing in the towel after a few months or a year of wilderness living is often that they moved from the city straight into the bush. It is too harsh a switch. It doesn't matter if they've done a lot of hiking and camping before, that's not what it's all about. When all or most of the stuff above is new to them, plus suddenly they have learn it all within a matter of months, without the support and feedback you get when you live outside a village first, it becomes just too stressful and people get discouraged and leave again.
Sure, it doesn't have the same adventurous ring to it when you announce to your buddies "hey, I'll be living on a dirt road 20kms outside a village with 300 people, and the next big town is 300kms away" as saying "I'm off to build a cabin way out in the bush". But you cannot get better prepared than doing the village thing first and stand a so much better chance of having fun and being there for the long haul when you do move out into the woods after a while.
EDIT: this is not personally directed at you, Solanum, I used "you" in the text to address whoever reads it.
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