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Magpie
08-17-2009, 05:41 PM
Okay so in the SAS survival handbook it says to never drink urine. Plain and simple. But I was taught that urine is steril, and therefore okay to drink immediately after urinating but better sooner or later because it's a breeding ground for bacteria. I read in a book last night that ancient peoples used urine to clean their clothes because of the ammonia and uric acid. Now I knew that urine has ammonia in it, but is that not a poison? A bit confused here.
Control yourself. Just say no to urine.
This is a pissa of a topic.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8s1TB229vsg/Skpp2XhM8TI/AAAAAAAAFrY/SXpJC8Mm5yQ/peeing%20wishkoski_thumb%5B3%5D.jpg
But if you really must.............
http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/uploads/image/cow_urine.jpg
rebel
08-17-2009, 05:46 PM
From what I've read, urine will do a nice job of bleaching buckskin. No thanks.
http://wtfoodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cowurinesoda-thumb.jpg
Sourdough
08-17-2009, 06:10 PM
My step-father drank Panther-Pi$$ & water back; However for reasons I never understood it came in a brown bottle marked, "Old Grandad"
Sarge47
08-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Knock yourself out! Okay guys, send all of your urine to Magpie! Anybody else want any? Speak now or forever hold your pee....er...piece! :innocent::sneaky2::online2long:
While urine is sterile, it contains all of the waste products that have been filtered out of your blood. Urine is composed mostly of dissolved salts, urea, organic compounds and water. As you become more and more dehydrated the dissolved salts and urea become more and more concentrated making it pretty bad for you to drink. Remember, it's waste products from your blood so it ain't that great starting out. Of course, if you have a urinary tract infection or a kidney infection then all bets are off on the sterile part.
The ammonia is a byproduct of the break down of urea. I have no idea whether anyone ever cleaned their clothes with urine or not. I can't imagine why they would when there were streams and rocks better suited (pun intended) for the job.
Of course, it would be just my luck to live in the tribe, mention the fact that I had to go home and wash clothes and have everyone stand up and pee on me.
crashdive123
08-17-2009, 07:17 PM
Okay so in the SAS survival handbook it says to never drink urine.
This is very good advice.
crashdive123
08-17-2009, 07:20 PM
Thank you. Got in about 5.
oldsoldier
08-17-2009, 07:28 PM
Agreed on "just say no to urine" From what I have been told and read. The high salinity (salt content) of urine will in addition to the other contaminants does more harm than any even remote good as it will make you thirstier( spelling?) and dehydrate your body more by causing it to use more of it's stored moisture trying to absorbe and remove the extra salt from your system.
Urine works very well for tanning fish hides. Skin the fish, scrape the fat and meat and pee on them. The pee will break down the fatty tissue and does a darn good job.
Don't ask me how I know....................LOL....................Yuc k, I know.
As far as consumption, you can drink it as a last ditch effort before you die. From what I've read, it will contribute to dehydration, it plays he ll on your liver, and leaves ya with a bad taste in your mouth.
But hey, if your a Bear fanatic, he also drinks elephant crap water along with his pee martini.
crashdive123
08-17-2009, 09:43 PM
As far as consumption, you can drink it as a last ditch effort before you die.
Soooooooo - not drinking it would mean ------ living???? just sayin.
That Frank tosses out some wisdom. You just have to look for it sometimes.
hoosierarcher
08-18-2009, 01:15 AM
you can pee into your solar still only the water conponent will evaporate and condense on the plastic.
From it's invention in 1793 until 1949 most toothpaste contained urine for the cleaning power of the ammonia in it.
That's it! That's the last time I brush my teeth when I travel back through time.
But you have to admit. That wouldn't be a bad job. Just sit around drinking coffee all day to build up a supply.
"They have another batch ready for you."
"Whew! It's about time. I'm about to pop."
Ole WV Coot
08-18-2009, 09:06 AM
A better use besides drinking. If your tender little hands get blistered from labor you aren't accustomed to doing as splitting wood, swinging an axe etc. Take a leak(intentionally this time) on your hands. It will burn like crazy but will toughen the skin and take the hurt out of broken blisters. Drinking a shot without a gallon water chaser is a no no.
Sarge47
08-18-2009, 11:30 AM
A better use besides drinking. If your tender little hands get blistered from labor you aren't accustomed to doing as splitting wood, swinging an axe etc. Take a leak(intentionally this time) on your hands. It will burn like crazy but will toughen the skin and take the hurt out of broken blisters. Drinking a shot without a gallon water chaser is a no no.Just be reluctant to "shake hands." :innocent:
hoosierarcher
08-18-2009, 12:18 PM
taking a leak on your feet cures athlete's foot.
Here's the story: Some folks (not Crash or me, but I ain't too sure about Sarge :sneaky2:) are just praying for someone to post that it's okay to drink or wash up in urine. Next thing you know, they're sitting in a bathtub full of pee slurping away with a straw.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/531475925_02abdea764.jpg?v=0
Just don't drown in there, 2dumb. :innocent:
http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/urine.jpg
Just in case you're wondering..........
http://nuclearfamily.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/urine-chart.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/brianbogdan/root/march/urine.jpg
taking a leak on your feet cures athlete's foot.
And goes a long way to convince the cop he was right. Waaaaaay to much to drink. Just Shayin'.
Are you hydrated?
If urine is clear, have no fear.
If urine is yellow, you're a hurtin' fellow.
Ole WV Coot
08-18-2009, 03:51 PM
taking a leak on your feet cures athlete's foot.
Thought everyone knew that especially if you're old or "horizontally challenged". Not me, I just heard some old guys talkin.....:blushing:
crashdive123
08-18-2009, 04:27 PM
taking a leak on your feet cures athlete's foot.
...and taking a leak on your neighbors feet will prevent unwanted visits.
hoosierarcher
08-18-2009, 07:56 PM
...and taking a leak on your neighbors feet will prevent unwanted visits.
Dagnabbit Crash I've got tea all over my laptop from the spit-take laugh that caused me.
crashdive123
08-18-2009, 11:32 PM
Dagnabbit Crash I've got tea all over my laptop from the spit-take laugh that caused me.
Look at the bright side. At least it was tea. Do you know what pee can do to a keyboard?
wareagle69
08-19-2009, 07:46 AM
i know a couple of health freaks in the UFC that drink urine every day and they are at the top of their game there
lyoto machicda-LT heavywight champion
diego sanchez-next in line at 155 to challeng pj penn for the title
so does it work? for them it does
as was said if in the desert and nothing else to drink and you might possibly die before the day is thru and you can drink a bit of urine to maybe help get you thru the day it would be worth it, i mean if your gonna die anyways who really care if it causes you a bit of kidney or liver problems and even if it does and you live i guess living with a bit of a problem is better than dieing
Well, jeez. Just think how good they would be if they DIDN'T drink it?
Someone above said it pretty well. It ain't bad if you have a gallon of water for a chaser.
Stairman
08-19-2009, 09:19 AM
Now now Bear Grills[sp] pissed in his canteen and drank up so it must be ok.
Then drank a liter of water.....off camera, of course.
Sarge47
08-19-2009, 10:40 AM
Now now Bear Grills[sp] pissed in his canteen and drank up so it must be ok.Did anyone actually SEE Bear urinate into his canteen? NO! We just have his word for it; just like we have his word that he killed the rabbit that he ate, that he slept out in the woods every night, and so on. C'mon, do you think that his wife would kiss him after doing that? "Gee honey, didn't you use the Listerene this morning? Your breath smells like (beep)." :sneaky2::innocent::cool2:
pocomoonskyeyes
08-19-2009, 10:50 AM
Well ya'll can drink all the pee you want, not me. If I get a deer and want to bleach the hide I'll pee on that(it gets washed later anyway)to make it white. Maybe in a solar still but beyond those uses and putting out a campfire real quick, the only other "survival" use I can think of at the moment is to fertilize plants.... Just sayin'
Jonesy
08-19-2009, 11:26 AM
Now now Bear Grills[sp] pissed in his canteen and drank up so it must be ok.
I want to see him eat his own crap sandwhich too
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=127&pictureid=1016
Magpie
08-19-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm not going to argue about the validity of Man vs Wild but I'm pretty sure the stories he tells about other people are true. In the same episode where he supposedly drank his own urine he said that two mexicans were lost in [the place I can't remember] and survived by drinking their own urine and turtle's blood.
I want to see him eat his own crap sandwhich too
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=127&pictureid=1016
What? No mayo? :sneaky2:
Magpie
08-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Actually though Sarge, it did show him urinate into his canteen, as to whether not he actually drank THAT and not something else put in it (or a different canteen altogether) we don't know. And it DID show him kill a rabbit one time, he threw a stick and nailed it. I don't know about the traps he sets though, there's no way of knowing that.
wilf123
08-19-2009, 05:11 PM
but bear grills is hard he eats crab apples out of romainian black bear crap , i puked when i saw that episode.
but bear grills is hard he eats crab apples out of romainian black bear crap , i puked when i saw that episode.
That wasn't Grills. That was his double. Some guy named "Sarge." :innocent:
As Minister of Science, I predicted a Ban in the near future.
CLUMSY ME! Did I type "Sarge?" I meant to type "Serge." Yeah. Serge. That's right. A double named Serge.
Him.
http://www.ultrarecords.com/files/gimgs/169a_serge-devantweb.jpg
Oh, well, there you go. Typo. Happens all the time.
crashdive123
08-19-2009, 06:30 PM
And it DID show him kill a rabbit one time, he threw a stick and nailed it.
Take a look through Youtube. There are videos that show all of the misses with his stick throwing. Oh yeah, and the rabbit was tied to a stake so it couldn't run away after the first dozen misses. Other than that - he's good with a stick.
If the wabbit was tied up, why did he not just walk up and choke the little bastard?
WE, I think I'll stick with all those in the UFC who are successful and do not drink pee pee.
As far as the Mexicans drinking pee and turtle blood. Come on, you know that they survived because of the turtle blood. Turtle blood has saved many a person stranded on islands and in the sea. Now, they have saved Mexicans.
Yeh for the Turtles.
And since we are talking about animals (how'bout that transition) that crazy, fake, imposter, Bear, well, he's just a fake. Did he really drink pee? Did he really squeeze the nector out of elephant poo and drink it? Did he really do the things that he portrays on the not so reality box that is in everyone's living room.
No. Just think, his wife has to kiss his nasty pee, poo, rotten food, live fish, nasty insect laden lips.
If he gets kissed at all.
Sarge47
08-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Actually though Sarge, it did show him urinate into his canteen, as to whether not he actually drank THAT and not something else put in it (or a different canteen altogether) we don't know. And it DID show him kill a rabbit one time, he threw a stick and nailed it. I don't know about the traps he sets though, there's no way of knowing that.
I got a watch I'd like to sell you, it's a genuwine roladex...er...uh...I mean Rolex! Yeah, & Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, & the Tooth Fairy are real too! :innocent::sneaky2::cool2:
Magpie
08-19-2009, 08:08 PM
I said what was shown, not what is true/not true. Which by the way, do you have a link to that Crash because I can't seem to find anything about it on youtube. Is that just another story about him someone told you or did you actually watch that?
I wish everyone would give the guy a break, who cares if he faked a few things, it's entertaining demonstrations and most of all it's TV! Not to mention the real stuff we KNOW that he did is a lot more ballsy than what most of the people on this site have ever/would ever do. Ever been to the summit of Everest? Nuff said. Now you're gonna tell me he faked that too huh? lol geeze
nell67
08-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Uh,magpie,he himself admitted alot of the stuff is staged,AFTER he was busted. That is why he has the disclaimers on his show now..
crashdive123
08-19-2009, 08:25 PM
Is that just another story about him someone told you or did you actually watch that?Cute. *shrugs* Tell ya what - you believe what you want. Honestly, I've got no dog in the hunt. You can cut him all the slack you want. Maybe you know how to handle yourself in the wilds, maybe not. The young or inexperienced viewer to his show that says - hey, that looks pretty easy! will probably hurt themselves. Bear, while an experienced and skilled mountaineer, does things that will get somebody killed. The vids have been posted on this site if you'd like to look for them, they're probably in the Man v Wild sticky. Remember, it was you who asked the question. If you don't like the answer...... I'm sure you know how that saying goes.
I think Crash summed it up nicely. Someone is going to watch him do something then try to emulate it and get hurt or worse. That's the down side. Yes, it's TV but even TV should have some sensible standards. In this case, I'm not certain anyone associated with the show knows the difference between fanciful entertainment and true survival skills. At least the skills are not portrayed if they do.
Magpie
08-19-2009, 08:36 PM
I liked the answers to my question just fine, but we've gone off course and we're talking about something else now. Like I said, it's demonstrations, so the fact that it's staged really doesn't matter, he still puts himself in the position. Intentionally falling into quicksand, icy lakes, etc. to show people what to do, of course it's going to be controlled. And I consider myself a little smarter than someone that would actually try some of the things he does. I didn't say everything he does is ideal. It just seems like everything I say on here gets blown out of proportion.
Okay. Mea Culpa. You're right, we're off track.
Okay. Mea Culpa. You're right, we're off track.
Say you're sorry, Rick. Tell the Numpty you're sorry! :sneaky2:
Ole WV Coot
08-19-2009, 10:05 PM
I am sure you have heard that not everything on TV isn't real? Well, you can take that to the bank, it ain't. Dad told me a long time ago, "Son, don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see". Next will be the CNN news crew doing shots around a urinal.
Sarge47
08-19-2009, 10:36 PM
Remember, you heard it here 1st: "Bear Grylls Sucks!!!" Even the Everest thing was faked. But hey, how else could you con a gullible public into shelling out over $700 for an autographed knife? Okay Magpie, so you claim that you got a little more sense than the others, that means you have a greater degree of responsibility to others who aren't as bright. Also remember that the Discovery channel is SUPPOSED to be educational, not pure entertainment! Finally, don't forget Brad & Adrian...TBWN!!! :cool2:
I am sure you have heard that not everything on TV isn't real? Well, you can take that to the bank, it ain't. Dad told me a long time ago, "Son, don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see". Next will be the CNN news crew doing shots around a urinal.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-toilet02.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Sourdough
08-19-2009, 10:55 PM
My first post to this thread.....I'll tell you what I know about urine. I have a Honey Bucket, A five Gallon plastic bucket, that gets dumped into the outhouse daily, if it is forgotten, and not emptied the contents stink, and the cabin stinks.
Get a bucket and use it, dump it once a day, do this for ten years, you will figure out the reason it is called "Waste Product".........:innocent::innocent::innocent:
You keep honey in that thing? Yuck.
Sarge47
08-20-2009, 10:26 PM
...why some folks come on here & try defending the whole "drinking Pee" thing, then start giving props to Bear Grylls? What's up with that? Hey Magpie, drink all the pi$$ you want! whatever "floats your boat", just keep away from me, I don't think I could handle the smell! :cool2:
crashdive123
08-20-2009, 10:36 PM
Magpie - please consider this. While it is true that in some cultures urine is consumed, it is not done so in "survival situations", but rather as part of a ritual or other such thing. In a survival situation when you become dehydrated and desperately need water the concentration of harmful byproducts in urine are at their highest, therefore the most harmful to you. It is those harmful byproducts that will, in your weakened condition, bring the onset of increased thirst, dehydration, organ failure, etc. Think back to Rick's post - Urine is clear, have no fear - Urine is yellow, you're a hurting fellow. When you are dehydrated your urine will be darker (can be almost orange in extreme dehydration cases) at which time the toxicity is extremely high.
finallyME
08-21-2009, 10:07 AM
Maybe I should put this on the man vs wild thread.
Bearwiki (http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/bearwiki/Special:Allpages)
Here is a collection of advice against pee drinking.
Drinking Urine (http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/bearwiki/Drinking_urine)
sgtdraino
08-22-2009, 12:17 PM
I read in a book last night that ancient peoples used urine to clean their clothes because of the ammonia and uric acid.
According to historical novelist Bernard Cornwell, during the Peninsular War British Riflemen would piss down the barrels of their rifles to clean out the fouling.
Of course, it would be just my luck to live in the tribe, mention the fact that I had to go home and wash clothes and have everyone stand up and pee on me.
Everyone form a line behind me.........:innocent:
I read in a book last night that ancient peoples used urine to clean their clothes because of the ammonia and uric acid.
WE? 2dumb? Would you guys like me to wash your cloths today? :)
hoosierarcher
08-23-2009, 03:22 PM
In ancient China they used to encourage every member of a city, human and animal to place their urine in a sectioned off field, each section was for a season. They then "harvested" the salt peter and other chemicals that formed in the soil.
they would move the location of the fields and after all the harvestable chemicals were taken some peat, bone meal and manure were sowed into the soil and the following year that field would produce a bumper crop of just about anything that was planted in it.
mountain mama
08-23-2009, 03:57 PM
The best tomatoes grow at the water treatment plants....but who would eat them? YUCK
Can we change the subject?
Let's talk about feces :innocent:
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