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[Mato]

Hello.

My name is Mato.
I am 39 years of age and i live in Los Angeles.
I am a carpenter, mostly doing fences and decks but i was in the movie industry for some years before i started to work for myself.

I enjoy nature as much as the next guy, but i am not a nature freak.
I never got lost, i don't know why anybody would lol but i am never the less equipped and trained to deal with eventualities.

You all know my friend "remy", and i hope he hasn't terrorized you too much lol
Preparedness is mostly my thing because of where i live. I have never been in the military but i shoot straight.
Hobbies ?
Naps and strolls lol. I do enjoy building things and drawing.

Remy told me that a lot of good information can be found here, so i will look lol.
I am more of the silent type, so don't wait for me.
I think that's it

Mato.

[Mischief]

Welcome Mato.looks like building fences in th LA area will be in demand.

Mischief

[Mato]

lol


Yes, along with OP/LP and razor wire !!!!
They just passed a new code here where i can now build 8' fences on the sides of properties, but it is still at 6' in front.
pfff

Business has been pretty slow this year so far.
Hope it picks up.
Thank you for the welcome Mischief.

Mato.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Welcome Mato.I am sure you wll enjoy your time here. There is much for all of us to learn. I hope you are pleased with this site,as it has some very knowledgable people here. I hope we can all learn from the exchanges. Silence is not necessary unless you choose, we already have plenty of "lurkers", please share.

[SARKY]

Welcome Mato,
At this rate we may need to have california get together or possibly a west coast one.

[tonester]

welcome to the forum mato!

i agree with sarky, we need to get something together over here on the west cost!

[crashdive123]

Hello and welcome.

[Ken]

I can't blame you for not liking me, or thinking i am a "know-it-all" or arrogant...but i don't have to please you either.

In this light...i have decided to step out of this forum.
Since i greatly value friendships and know-how found here though, we have decided to assign a new member of our group to this forum.
Through him those that want can stay in touch with me.
His name is Mato, and should join in the next 24 hours.

Remy.

Welcome to your new assignment, Mato. Or is it Remy once again?

[Pal334]

Welcome aboard, look forward to chatting

[Mountain Man]

LOL @ Ken.

Welcome... Mato... Remy.. back :clap:

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Wait a second are ya'll suggesting Remy has Multiple Personality Disorder?(at least as far as the Web is concerned) I thought it "funny" that remy would know ahead of time that the username Mato would be free, Before Mato had a chance to Register. What does Mato mean????

[Ken]

Wait a second are ya'll suggesting Remy has Multiple Personality Disorder?(at least as far as the Web is concerned) I thought it "funny" that remy would know ahead of time that the username Mato would be free, Before Mato had a chance to Register. What does Mato mean????

Poco, we don't have to be rocket scientists to realize that Mato IS Remy posting under a new screen name. :)

[Sarge47]

1st: Remy was NOT banned, he left the forum on his own...again!

2nd: Even if Mato IS Remy, so what? That's not against the rules, just different! However there is no proof that this is so!

3rd: As long as Mato plays by the rules he should be welcomed into the Wolf-Pack. So welcome Mato. Play nice & you'll be fine. :cool2:

[chiye tanka]

Welcome aboard Mato.
I don't know if you should tell everyone you're friends with remy.:lol:

BTW, are you native? My people's name for bear is mato.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Chiye I love learning New Native American words Thank you!!!

[Sarge47]

Welcome aboard Mato.
I don't know if you should tell everyone you're friends with remy.:lol:

BTW, are you native? My people's name for bear is mato.
So...if Mato fights a bear single-handed, does that mean he's going "Mato un Mato?" :innocent:

[chiye tanka]

So...if Mato fights a bear single-handed, does that mean he's going "Mato un Mato?" :innocent:

This is why Sarge is THE ZEN MASTER!:cool2::clap:

[Ken]

In my native language, "mato" means "thick." 'Nuff said. :)

Appropriate lyrics here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toHlMD50eYY

[Lorna]

Hello and welcome. I have to say it once again, You just gotta love Sarge.

[Mato]

Thank you all.

Yes Mato is for bear in Lakota.
No i am not native (although born in the US lol), but i have studied the culture somewhat extensively. Mato was a name given to me by remy a long time ago.
I have mostly studied Hopis and Zunis.

And no i am not remy.

I think that covers most of the questions so far ?
Thank you again for the warm welcome.

Wopila heca yelo (?)
Mato

[Ken]

Hi, Mato. Hi, Remy.

http://www.uncoached.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ventriloquist_dummies_6.jpeg

[Ken]

Thank you all.

Yes Mato is for bear in Lakota.
No i am not native (although born in the US lol), but i have studied the culture somewhat extensively. Mato was a name given to me by remy a long time ago.
I have mostly studied Hopis and Zunis.

And no i am not remy.

I think that covers most of the questions so far ?
Thank you again for the warm welcome.

Wopila heca yelo (?)
Mato

Mato, you must be one of Remy's most attentive students. Your writing style is identical to his. :sneaky2:

Did you know that Charles Manson, Jim Jones, and Vernon Howell (later known as David Koresh) also gave new "names" to their students? :innocent:

[equus]

what does that mean "Wopila heca yelo?" i know or am pretty sure that is lakota as well am i right? hello and welcome to the forum!!!

[nell67]

Equus,it means "thank you to all" in Lakota.

[Lorna]

Some hurry and cook something to send to Ken (QC) so he'll be well nurished for his exchange with Mato. :innocent:

[Ken]

Some hurry and cook something to send to Ken (QC) so he'll be well nurished for his exchange with Mato. :innocent:


Food. Absolutely, yes, please send food! :tongue_smilie:

[equus]

thanks nell67 i appreciate that alot. i also like learning new native american words. i am not native american but have always loved their culture and their way of life.

[nell67]

You are most welcome equus! My friends call me Nell!

[Mato]

Sir

I have no desire to fight with you or justify or explain myself.
I came here to learn and that's it.
Putting remy (i gave him the name volwest by the way) in the same category as the twisted people you mention is extremely entertaining though lol
FYI the name giving is also a native tradition.

I am not his student, just friends.
He must have really done a number on you lol
but since i am not him, i would ask you to try and refrain from trying to provoke me and making me the target of your frustrations.

Sincerely,
Mato.

[Ken]

Please, Rem..., I mean Mato, carry on with your "assignment."

[Sarge47]

Sir

I have no desire to fight with you or justify or explain myself.
I came here to learn and that's it.
Putting remy (i gave him the name volwest by the way) in the same category as the twisted people you mention is extremely entertaining though lol
FYI the name giving is also a native tradition.

I am not his student, just friends.
He must have really done a number on you lol
but since i am not him, i would ask you to try and refrain from trying to provoke me and making me the target of your frustrations.

Sincerely,
Mato.Interesting that you would refer to your "friend" by his screen name & not his real one, which is Frederick BTW. Oh, and for your information, Mods can see when a post has been deleted & also view the contents. After I posted my post regarding you I checked the locked sticky to see what all of the fuss had been about and found that right below post #104 you had posted at 3:15pm as MATO! That was a mistake on your part as you then had to cut & paste the text of your previous post in post #105 to cover your mistake. Why would you, as Mato, be saying the exact same thing as Remy in the post that came on AFTER yours? This proves what I've suspected all along that you are simply playing the members here so you can come on under one identity, say some crap, then leave & come in under another name. While there are no rules against this unless you've been banned, which you haven't, there is no diciplinary action to worry about, however I think it only fair that the membership know about this little subterfuge to help them decide if they even want to dialouge with you in the future. If you're lying about who you really are here, why are we to believe your other identity is true as well? Welcome back Remy! I see you didn't stay away as long this time. :cool2:

[Ken]

Well then..........

It's nice to know that my "gut feelings" are correct. :clap:

[Sarge47]

Well then..........

It's nice to kow that my "gut feelings" are correct. :clap:Because I've been falsely accused of Volwest/Remy now Mato in the past of "making things up", I've "undeleted" the damning deleted post. On page 6 of the sticky "Basic Survival" you can see the evidence on posts #105 & #106. I only did this since Remy was sticking to his bogus story. You all have the right to know when you're being played! :cool2:

[Ken]

Sarge, you da' man!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Pal334]

:knight: Sarge,, Thank you, you are gentleman and a scholar :rockon:

[Mato]

lol

I registered before remy's last post to make sure the name was not taken.
But did not sign off after registration (not use to these forums), and remy posted under my name.
We just switched it.

Paranoid much ?

[Sarge47]

The reasons I decided to post the evidence were: A.) It was deceiving the group; B.) I have been falsely accused in the past of lying about this person & decided on a "pre-emptive move."

Remember, however, that no rules have been broken, just a fraud has been exposed. The membership on here might want to think about weather they really even want to dialouge with this person; there's obviously something very wrong with him. If it's a real illness, then he needs our support & help. It has occurred to me that Vol-Remy-West-Mato may have aquirred his extensive knowledge of Psychology as a patient, and not as a doctor. He could be Bi-polar, for example, which might explain his "highs & lows." His His "dissing" of Poco in the "Basic Survival" sticky says a lot to me. Remy was "the man" as it was "his" thread. Then you all started giving props to Poco for his touching & moving story so Remy had to come back on with some discourageing remarks, after all, it was his thread. Then, when "public" opinion went against him, he left, only to reconstruct himself as Mato. Mind you that I'm only speculating here, but if VW/Remy/Mato DOES have an illness, I will not bait or mis-treat him, but will require that he conduct himself in a proper manner regardless. :cool2:

[Sarge47]

lol

I registered before remy's last post to make sure the name was not taken.
But did not sign off after registration (not use to these forums), and remy posted under my name.
We just switched it.

Paranoid much ?Excuses are like armpits, everybody's got a couple and they usually stink. C'mon Remy, you're busted! "Man up" for cryin' out loud! :cool2:

[Ken]

lol

I registered before remy's last post to make sure the name was not taken.
But did not sign off after registration (not use to these forums), and remy posted under my name.
We just switched it.

Paranoid much ?


:knight::knight::knight:
:ban::ban::ban:


Based upon what you (as both Remy and Mato) have written in your relevant posts,
it is clear to me,
and hopefully to everyone else as well,
that you are a liar.


I deal with evidence and disproving lies everyday.
You blew it, Remy!
Every liar makes a BIG mistake sooner or later.
You made a HUGE mistake.


You have no credibility with me,
Volwest, Volsouth, Remy, now Mato
and whoever you will be next.


What offends me even more
is the fact that you must think we are all stupid.


http://www.asdfplus.com/Posters/L2/LiarLiar.gif

[Sarge47]

Remy used the same IP address as well when he did that...same computer? Yet only a minute later his pops up with the same IP address . Paranoid? Are YOU a psychologist? Actually it didn't fly, give it up, please. :cool2:

[Ken]

Sarge, his writing style, punctuation errors, grammar, EVERYTHING, is IDENTICAL to Remy's.

He ain't that smart after all, is he?

[Sarge47]

Sarge, his writing style, punctuation errors, grammar, EVERYTHING, is IDENTICAL to Remy's.

He ain't that smart after all, is he?I think it's time Remy "assign another identity...er...stooge...er...person to replace Mato as he's so busted! The problem with coming up with one lie is that you have to keep lying to protect the 1st lie & so on & so forth. :cool2:

[Ken]

Remy, I'd love to see some evidence of the "amazing support" you've received since your lies were revealed.

[Ken]

For the record, not a single PM from me to Mato. Not one. And the Mods can verify this.

Give up, Remy. I believe that you've blown any hope of sympathy that you would have otherwise gotten here.

[Ken]

Sarge, Remy's busy trying to get dressed.

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[Ken]

And when they do, like Benesse in the "basic survival" thread, "you" cut them down.

My only reply to Benesse came after she suggested, more than once, that I employ a hooker.

Remy, my replies to you have come after you have insulted and/or degraded me, my family, or someone else. But you can't control yourself in that regard, can you?

[BENESSE]

My only reply to Benesse came after she suggested, more than once, that I employ a hooker.

Remy, my replies to you have come after you have insulted and/or degraded me, my family, or someone else. But you can't control yourself in that regard, can you?

OK, let me clear that up once and for all!

I only toyed with Ken's fantasy that at 92 he would have
a 22 year old girlfriend--just 'cause he had a private jet --
and they could make out in the back of the plane with the auto-pilot on.
Didn't think it would hit a nerve, so I'm sorry.
I WAS KIDDING, ALL RIGHT?!!!

Ken, if that's what floats your boat, more power to you, bro!

[pocomoonskyeyes]

The amount of energy some of you have spent trying to make me look bad is exceptional...and laughable.

Look at my posts.
Look at what i wrote about survival.
Look at my pics.
Look at my exchanges with other open minded members.
Look...it's right there !!!

The "basic survival" thread for example.
All of you that don't like me, never went on there to add or participate, you only went on there to complain, attack and distort what was being said...and then look at the result...it was closed.

Remy Let's set the record straight and try to clear the air OK?
First I think you Did a Pretty darn good job with the start of the "Basic Survival thread". JMO others may disagree...That's cool. Not everyone agrees, like Sarge said everyone has their opinion. I personally did not have a problem with you, and for the record respected you for the thought you had put into that particular thread. Whether others did or not..well,let's just say I'm not them.
I did have a problem with your implying that I was a "bum"...No you didn't call me personally one,admitted. But the implication was there whether you realized it or intended it or not.This is why some jumped to my defense (Again Thank You to those that did), But I didn't feel threatened and only slightly offended and tried to contain myself. You will also see that I asked others to not go any further, as I was afraid there was a very real potential for things to get out of hand. It did. It was closed. That's that, but subterfuge is not something I or many appreciate,as you can tell.
Something I was told in the military- "to earn Respect, you must give Respect" Part of that is not "playing" people for fools. I've found out that the best policy is honesty. You See Remy you aren't the object of my Disdain, your actions may be but you are not. I'm not a Mod I don't know who PM'd Mato or even if anyone did. I Did PM you, No one else about that "situation". Unless you feel the need that Pm is between you and I. As far as I'm concerned the matter is settled, Water under the bridge. What you do from this day forward is how you and I will relate. Be mean or distrustful I will treat you accordingly. Be friendly and helpful I will treat you accordingly. The "Olive Branch" lies before you, Do with it what you will, just remember no man is an island.
To the mods and other "Powers that Be"- I would respectfully request that the offending posts be stricken from the thread "Basic Survival" And it to be Reopened. The thread is By far more important than the contributers, Or our Egos. There are others out there that can contribute to it. I meant what I said though I will not contribute another word to it, If necessary I will start another similar thread. But why deny the others that could contribute? so my plea lies with you, do with it what you will.
Lastly, Remy do as you will, but the ball is now in your court. Comport yourself accordingly.

[Sarge47]

Very nice Poco, very nice. Okay wolves, here's the deal. I'm asking everyone to lay off Remy. If he has an illness, let's help him, if he's a complete "derierre" then let's ignore him. If he says something that gets us angry, report it but don't respond to him personally, okay? Beleive me, he's not that important. I admit that I don't like being played either, but really, what does it matter if he was Mato, there were no rules broken, that's the bottom line. I've encouraged Crash to reopen the thread and to delete the "bad" posts. I'm also NOT going to respond to any further posts by Remy; however I will ask the leadership here to reinstate his use of the name "Vol-West" if possible as it seems to mean so much to him. Fair enough? :cool2:

[Beo]

Any friend of Remy's is okay by me. I personally like Remy a whole frig'n bunch. He is allowed to give his personal opinion, remarks, and start threads on whatever he like, I support him and think he has some real great knowledge. He is a friend of mine I will stand by him, that doesn't mean I agree with all his writings, we have disagreed in the past but talk it out. LIKE GROWN MEN and ADULTS not by sending anyone hate PMs which I think is really sad and cowardice.
Just my two cents worth.
Beo,
Hey professor, I'm back and I got your back.

[remy]

Thanks Beo...i appreciate your presence.

How is the buttocks ?
lolll

[welderguy]

Howdy and welcome.

[Beo]

Yeah keep it up funny man... I'm doing real good, working out and jogging again and getting ready to go back if I get laid off from the job I got shining a seat with my arse.

[remy]

That's good to hear.
Again...glad to see you around.

[wareagle69]

rangers lead the way
beo, reporting for duty my brother, right or wrong rangers back rangers

[palerider]

ooohhhh me tooo i wanna play

[DOGMAN]

i guess i need to check out the basic survival thread...

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Nice to see an olive branch thrown back in my face, Thanks for showing your true colors. I compliment you and you continue your subtle irritation. you are rather annoying like a gnat and in the grander scheme of things about as insignificant. Reveal a few more of your personalities.
Beo that wasn't hate mail assuming that Remy forwarded it to you maybe you should re read it. If this were a forum ENTIRELY of adults I would post it here for all to read, Yes I was Ticked Off all because of one sentence from your post referring to treatment of Native Americans, Royally ticked off. That's why I said don't preach to me.Right Remy? Remy assumed that I am entirely anglo,gringo or whatever. But I do have some Native American blood,Creek from my Dad - Cherokee from my MOM, but do not Qualify for the registry. You know what they say about Assuming it makes an***ume.
Remy, I say again I think you gave a lot of thought to that thread, and I personally felt honored to be ASKED to contribute to it. For all your education I don't think you really understand the meaning of these words, Intellectually yes emotionally no. I don't think you have ever felt Honored like I was at a protest over a Native American graveyard being disturbed. When a Lakota Medicine Man asked me to carry a prayer staff into the burial ground. I really think this concept escapes you. Yes, you and I, different yet the same. Stubborn,smart,and proud. I can talk , you can talk, agree Probably not. However to use your words we will have to "Agree to disagree"

[nell67]

poco,where 'bouts was the ceremony you attended?? A similar situation is happening in the county next to me where I am originally from,natives come from several states away.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

HWY 231 Townsend,Tn. about '99. They were wanting to widen the road and uncovered a burial ground. I stayed until AIM showed up and was politely asked by them to leave that they would deal with it from there on out. I would've stayed but they said they were "covered" but I would not be. I assumed they were referring to taking it up a notch to "civil disobedience" and that their lawyers would cover them but not I, they weren't specific and I didn't ask... something about their tone, know what I mean?
They were really upset, it seems that the Gov. and one of his Cronies had just bought some land up there and it was Believed that that was the real reason for the widening. Not many go into the Smoky Mountain Park from that direction,but that was the reason for the widening of the road.

[panch0]

Not to hijack this thread but. My mothers father my grand dad was from Tuxpan, Veracruz. My great grand mother died when I was very young. She spoke a dialect of nahuatle I believe, they were decendents of the Huasteca indians. Does this qualify me being part native american or what would that make me. I have tried to learn the nahuatle language on the internet but its hard not having someone fluent teaching you. Ok back to the show.

[Rick]

I wish someone would hijack this thread. It's an Introduction not an inquisition.

Welcome, Mato. I don't care if you are Mato or Remy. Shoot, I'll even let you in after you said you were his friend. He's okay. Actually, he's anything you want him to be. It's a forum for cryin' out loud. So welcome.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Got ya' Rick starting new thread now... Again welcome Mato.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Remy I am done with you. Your preference is to choose to attempt and turn peoples words.Kinda' like a cult leader does with the "Good Book". You Seem to prefer discord,than agreement. Now that certain posts have been deleted you can take whatever you remember and twist it whichever way you want. I do not care. I asked people to stay out of it let you and I deal with any and all "percieved Problems' as you imply. But you won't let "sleeping dogs lie" I'm Sorry you feel that way I truly am. from this point on you are on my "ignore" list, You no longer have anything of value to contribute to me. Sorry it had to come to this. I NEVER had a problem with Mato,still don't. I don't have a problem with your "supporters"(like Beo and WE), they may have one with me but it really doesn't matter it will be like water off a ducks back. I've only had problems with one single individual,this is so obvious I don't even have to mention who it is. Adios Remy or if you prefer "DUDE" au revoir". Notice the contradiction? I do.

[crashdive123]

I would encourage everybody to use the "ignore" feature if they can't get along with somebody. I believe this "Introduction" has run its course.