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wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 12:25 PM
Well for a long time i wanted to get some land.Just forest no house just plain land with woods. I did try search on internet but no luck. Can you people point me somewhere?? i love PA but wouldnt mind some other state close to NY
thank you wizzy
SARKY
08-06-2009, 02:02 PM
Have you checked out upsate NY? Try someplace in the Catskills, like around the towns of Hunter and Tannersville.
pocomoonskyeyes
08-06-2009, 02:10 PM
try doing a search for hunting land?
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Do you'all have sales tax thingie in America.......? Why would people pay tax on their gross income, and then pay sales tax on what was allready taxed???

I ask as I thunk N.Y. has a large sales tax. YES( ) or NO ( ) or WHO CARES, IT's ONLY MONEY ( )...........:)
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Wizzy, What part of N.Y. are you located, now......?
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Do you'all have sales tax thingie in America.......? Why would people pay tax on their gross income, and then pay sales tax on what was allready taxed???

I ask as I thunk N.Y. has a large sales tax. YES( ) or NO ( ) or WHO CARES, IT's ONLY MONEY ( )...........:)

Okay, get me started...........:sneaky2:

I'm self employed. Adding up Federal & State Income Taxes, FICA & Medicare = 50.6% of gross

Now toss in Massachusetts Mandated health insurance = almost 10% of gross

Next we have Real Estate, Personal Property and Excise Taxes = 5 % of gross

THAT'S 65.6% OF MY GROSS THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES OR MANDATES THAT I SPEND.........

Of the 34.4% of income remaining, Mass pays a 6.25% sales tax, and a 85 cent/gallon (FED & STATE COMBINED) tax on gasoline. Then we have taxes on utilities, fuel oil, cable, and telephone, municipal waste collection fees, meals taxes, ........ figure an average of 5% tax on all "purchases and government costs)

Which leaves me with a net of about 30% of my gross.

IS ANYONE ELSE FURIOUS ABOUT THIS? :sneaky2:
SARKY
08-06-2009, 03:03 PM
NOW is it time to get our pitchforks and torches?????
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:11 PM
NOW is it time to get our pitchforks and torches?????

Nope. That time passed by over 10 years ago. We need to get serious now! :sneaky2:

Just wait - who do you think is gonna' have to pay for the trillions of extra dollars our clowns in Washington, in our local statehouses, and in our local governments are now p!ssing through? Can you say, "ANOTHER $@*&%!% tax increase?"
Rick
08-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Read my lips. No.....new.......taxes. Not gonna happen. Not while I'm here.
Rick
08-06-2009, 03:18 PM
http://www.timberlinerealestate.net/openandwooded6.html
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 03:21 PM
WOW....Now I know how to WAKE you guys up......
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:27 PM
WOW....Now I know how to WAKE you guys up......

Hope, I'm about to send the government my entire gross income together will my monthly bills. Let them pay my $%&*#$% bills and necessities and just tell me how many more hours I need to work each week (over the 60 I work now) so I can just send them that money too. I'm seething over this.

I try to avoid this subject because whenever I talk about it I'm just ready to explode!
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:33 PM
By the way, in my profession, you can't stop working for a client just because he or she decides to stop paying you. The courts rarely allow it. Hell, it would DELAY JUSTICE! As if our legal system has a damn thing to do with justice - IT DOESN'T! Naw, we just gotta' keep working and spending money on our clients' cases for free. We don't need to eat, right?

EDIT: I had to delete some of this post. Trust me, I would have paid dearly if it had fallen into the wrong hands.........
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 03:51 PM
SO.....I know that you are happy for those of us who have "NO" State Income tax, "NO" State or local SALES TAX, And the state gasoline tax (.08 cents) was suspended for two years.
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:53 PM
SO.....I know that you are happy for those of us who have "NO" State Income tax, "NO" State or local SALES TAX, And the state gasoline tax was suspended for two years.

What was it you said in one of your recent posts? Oh yeah,

GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRR!
Ken
08-06-2009, 03:54 PM
SO.....I know that you are happy for those of us who have "NO" State Income tax, "NO" State or local SALES TAX, And the state gasoline tax (.08 cents) was suspended for two years.

The math is a bit complicated, but that would effectively increase my net income by about 33%.
2dumb2kwit
08-06-2009, 04:08 PM
The math is a bit complicated, but that would effectively increase my net income by about 33%.

Soooo....you're paying 33% of your income, so that you can live in Mass., instead of the beautiful state of Alaska?????

Dang......and y'all call us southerners dumb!:innocent:
Ken
08-06-2009, 04:12 PM
......and y'all call us southerners dumb!:innocent:

Nope. Just you! :sneaky2:

http://bobbeckstead.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dumbass.jpg
2dumb2kwit
08-06-2009, 04:20 PM
Nope. Just you! :sneaky2:

Thanks Ken! I think very highly of you, too!:innocent:
(I trust that you can figure this one out!)
doug1980
08-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I thought some places in Alaska do have sales tax. I think Wasilla does. But regardless it is total BS. And the Government wonders why people can't pay their bills.

"Bends over again for Uncle Sam." "More taxes please."
Ken
08-06-2009, 04:23 PM
Thanks Ken! I think very highly of you, too!:innocent:
(I trust that you can figure this one out!)

Yep, I can figure it out. You're stuck in that hole and you're sucking up to me with the hope that I'll rescue you.
2dumb2kwit
08-06-2009, 04:32 PM
All joking aside, Ken, I feel your pain. We won't get into politics, here, but I scream the same things that you were just screamin'.

I think the only thing that is worse than what's taken from me, is what's done with it!:sneaky2:
2dumb2kwit
08-06-2009, 04:35 PM
Here ya go, Ken....Just for you! LOL:innocent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLry3ABpV0
Ken
08-06-2009, 04:39 PM
All joking aside, Ken, I feel your pain. We won't get into politics, here, but I scream the same things that you were just screamin'.

I think the only thing that is worse than what's taken from me, is what's done with it!:sneaky2:

That's only because the public lets them b@stards get away with it. RE-ELECT NO ONE!
doug1980
08-06-2009, 04:40 PM
Ken for President!!!!
Ken
08-06-2009, 04:46 PM
Ken for President!!!!

Thanks, Doug!
doug1980
08-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Thanks, Doug!

Just remember me when you get elected. :)
Ken
08-06-2009, 05:04 PM
Just remember me when you get elected. :)

Ambassadorship?
2dumb2kwit
08-06-2009, 05:12 PM
Ambassadorship?

(I know I shouldn't ask this.) Alright Pres. Ken...what about me?:innocent:
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 05:26 PM
The math is a bit complicated, but that would effectively increase my net income by about 33%.



Have a special this month, well OK, good till Oct.15'th BRING two semi good looking women to Alaska, and I'll but the fix in so you don't have to pay State Income Tax. We need semi-good looking ladies.
Ken
08-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Have a special this month, well OK, good till Oct.15'th BRING two semi good looking women to Alaska, and I'll but the fix in so you don't have to pay State Income Tax. We need semi-good looking ladies.

Hope, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I truly appreciate your altruistic (:innocent:) offer.

Only problem is, my gross would probably decline by 99%.
crashdive123
08-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Not meaning to put this thread back on track, but there is land out there and much of it can be had at good prices right now. Many people that had purchased land as an investment are not seeing what they envisioned with the current economy. Many are just dumping their land. Some are "land banking" it. My mom in law has 54 acres that she will sell very cheaply (no, this is not a solicitation). The problem with her land is that the 400 acres adjacent to it (where an easement has been granted) is not going to be developed in the forseeable future. So access is the issue. For some, that sort of thing may be exactly what they are looking for.
Ken
08-06-2009, 06:38 PM
(I know I shouldn't ask this.) Alright Pres. Ken...what about me?:innocent:

Sorry, 2dumb, I missed this post earlier........

How about "Court Jester?" :)
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 07:27 PM
whoaa
that is lots of replies thank you people
well i live in brooklyn ny
what about land in alaska??? i always wanted to go there
crashdive123
08-06-2009, 07:38 PM
How much are you looking to spend? I know a fella that will sell you five acres on the side of a mountain. I've seen the pictures - can't beat the view.
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 07:38 PM
whoaa
what about land in alaska??? i always wanted to go there

Same deal, Bring women, the more women the cheaper the land. The uglier the women the more expensive the land........:clap::clap::):clap::clap:
Ken
08-06-2009, 07:44 PM
Same deal, Bring women, the more women the cheaper the land. The uglier the women the more expensive the land........:clap::clap::):clap::clap:


http://firealyellon.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/111007_ugly_woman_shirt.jpg
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 07:50 PM
lol
gf is model tho heh so no ugly or fat chicks
well i am looking for something cheap
i am only 23 so really cheap
alaska would be good , cause for last couple years i would love to move there in future
it doesnt have to be plain, i want lots of trees
crashdive123 what side of the mountain are you talking about?
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 07:52 PM
I thought some places in Alaska do have sales tax. I think Wasilla does. But regardless it is total BS. And the Government wonders why people can't pay their bills.

"Bends over again for Uncle Sam." "More taxes please."


Yes Doug, You are correct some towns and some Boroughs have a small sales tax, but as you know Anchorage, Alaska does not have a sales tax.:)
crashdive123
08-06-2009, 08:02 PM
lol
gf is model tho heh so no ugly or fat chicks
well i am looking for something cheap
i am only 23 so really cheap
alaska would be good , cause for last couple years i would love to move there in future
it doesnt have to be plain, i want lots of trees
crashdive123 what side of the mountain are you talking about?

The million dollar view I was referring to can probably be had for about $400,000 so it may be out of your price range. Seriously though, there is cheap land out there. It may take some looking to find something that you want, but it's there. You may even start by talking to a realtor just to get an idea of how to find it. It will take effort on your part, but if it's what you want, it will be well worth it.
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 08:13 PM
well reason i asked here is cause i have been trying to look all over the internet without any luck
all of land is not rural or it has house on it
i want just pure nature
Rick
08-06-2009, 08:16 PM
No ugly or fat chicks? Man, you like to live dangerously. Statements like that can get body parts glued. Just sayin'........
crashdive123
08-06-2009, 08:17 PM
I was quite serious when I said check with realtors. I've got one working on Mom's 54 acres. The only way people will hear about it is through her or her listings. A realtor (not somebody real new to it) in your town may not know the answers, but may be able to steer you in the right direction. Also, when I said people are dumping land - many are just letting it go - not paying the taxes on it. I don't know how to check (realtor may) with towns/counties/whatever on what can be had, often for little more than back taxes.
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 08:17 PM
well reason i asked here is cause i have been trying to look all over the internet without any luck
all of land is not rural or it has house on it
i want just pure nature


You tell me how much money you want to spend, and I'll tell you how much "PURE" Nature it buys in Alaska........????
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 08:26 PM
well no more then 10k
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 08:40 PM
well i dont mind more tho , but for that i would need financing or mortgage , for which i dont care tho
as long as land is in middle of nowhere with lots of trees , its ok
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 08:48 PM
If you have seen the movie "One mans Wilderness", I would appraise that land at $100,000.-- per acre. So the 15 acres would appraise at $1,500,000.00 And the Park Service would spend Ken's tax money to buy it.

My neighbor across the road just paid $1,000,000.00 (One Million) CASH for 4.2 acres of semi-wilderness on Six-Mile Creek.
DOGMAN
08-06-2009, 08:56 PM
I've got 22 acres of Montana wilderness for sale. $499,000. its got a year around creek with trout, lots of trees, lots of meadows. Can hunt elk and deer from the property and hear wolves howl nightly!
you better act fast though...
pocomoonskyeyes
08-06-2009, 09:49 PM
Hey Ken I hope you don't pay Child support too that would reduce your net even more. heck you might just be "bringing home" 5% or so of gross. Depending on what the settlement provided. I know a guy that pays almost half in Child support,and the court wouldn' reduce it. Change in jobs didn't matter they told him he should've kept his old job.
pocomoonskyeyes
08-06-2009, 09:51 PM
Back to the OP's question. There's plenty of the kind of land you're looking for here in Ky. but that's probably too far for you.
Ken
08-06-2009, 09:56 PM
Hey Ken I hope you don't pay Child support too that would reduce your net even more.

Not anymore. Kids are with me now. That's another story. The title is "How I Lost My Last Bit Of Respect For The Judicial System."
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 10:05 PM
well i dont mind more tho , but for that i would need financing or mortgage , for which i dont care tho
as long as land is in middle of nowhere with lots of trees , its ok

Somehow a lot of people think they can have a panoramic view, with lots of trees. Generally all you can see is trees, till the next Forest Fire.
wizardslovak
08-06-2009, 10:08 PM
i dont care about view , i dont need to be on the top of the mountain
just plain forest
KY?? as long as price is good i dont care
Sourdough
08-06-2009, 10:31 PM
i dont care about view , i dont need to be on the top of the mountain
just plain forest
KY?? as long as price is good i dont care

What is wrong with Old Forge, N.Y. or anyplace in or near the Adirondack Wilderness Forest........?
pocomoonskyeyes
08-06-2009, 10:32 PM
well theres some for sale in Ky and Tn or at least there was last time I looked. I need something with Pasturage myself.
Rick
08-07-2009, 07:13 AM
Jason - That sounds like a tempting offer. But, are you sure you want me as a neighbor? Would you be okay if I knocked on the door to borrow some sugar? or, say, 20 pounds of elk meat?
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