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wareagle69
08-01-2009, 02:13 PM
so have you ever thought of this
shtf some how some way and now your unprepared family members stop by. i just thought of this cuz some of the wifes family is here for the weekend and i brought in extra supplies for them plus digging into some of my own stock for meals and such. but if they had to come on a permanent basis it would definetly put a strain on our comfort and shorten our timeline, but how do you turn family away, now they do live far off so the chances of them showing up in an emergency would be unlikely and if an emerg situation where they are at most likely not here, but it make me stop and wonder.
Rick
08-01-2009, 03:49 PM
I have 3 kids, 2 in-laws, and 4 grand kids in the immediate vicinity. Total is 5 adults and 4 kids in addition to me and my wife. Yes, I have included them in my plans. Not only for food and water but also weapons and ammo, communications and health care. I can convert my place into the Walton's if the needed arises. Pray that it doesn't. I like my privacy!!!!!!!

Good night, John boy.
SARKY
08-01-2009, 05:03 PM
I don't have any family on this coast except the wifey. We have made arangements with FRIENDS should the SHTF. Depending on wether we go to them or they come to us, everything of use comes with them! Food, ammo, guns, tent, sleeping bag, etc.
oldsoldier
08-02-2009, 06:31 PM
We are in good shape for wife and myself.As it stands today. supplies for 5 months. Sister and bro in law live about 50 miles south of here. I started them out this week end with supplies. We went to gun store there they bought 3000 rounds of .22 500 rounds of .12 ga.#7 200 rounds of 40 cal. and 50 rounds of OO. I took them 4 five gallon buckets with lids. Contents 50 lbs brown beans in one, 50 lbs rice in another, salt, flour,pepper, boullion cubes, 24 pkgs of ramen noodles in third, first aid supplies,baby wipes, "female items" in fourth. That should feed them,my neice, and mom that lives with them for 3-4 weeks if they don't waste a lot also got bro in law on line and had him order 2 of the 55 gal. water drums for water storage.
hoosierarcher
08-02-2009, 07:56 PM
I have no family really close but any that show up at my door will be welcome because family is never turned away. As for strangers....My cousin works for the county road comission and I asked him where the emmense tree chipper is stored and how to get it to a nearby farm field. Unwanted folks that don't leave on the third politely made request will be part of the compost pile. A lesson fron history they don't teach in school....all those fields that men fought and died in in Europe over the centuries are the best farm land in Europe. This is due to the pact that blood, bone and flesh make great fertilizer. The smaller the pieces these are when they are introduced to the soil the quicker they have a positive effect on the richness of the soil.
Rick
08-02-2009, 09:17 PM
Appreciate that information. (tosses half eaten French pastry in the trash) It's something I hadn't thought of (followed by French berre creme).
welderguy
08-02-2009, 09:55 PM
The relatives that live close by are all into Preperation, Some more than others, Between my wife and me , and one of the uncles we could feed the few that are unprepaired for awhile if they dont mind a lot of beans and rice.
Mountain Man
08-02-2009, 10:09 PM
My goal is to try to keep 10 people alive, well fed, and able to do labor for 6 months with my own supplies. Anyone else that may be invited are required to bring their own supply or can freely stash it here. :clap:
Sourdough
08-02-2009, 10:42 PM
My plan is to take in only women of questionable moral values, that can shoot straight, split wood, haul water. & butcher moose.
wareagle69
08-03-2009, 06:39 AM
My plan is to take in only women of questionable moral values, that can shoot straight, split wood, haul water. & butcher moose.

thats a great plan pops
wonder what i can do to convince the mrs of that also. she says the only woamn of questionalble morals allowed in the house is kat von d, ii agree 100 percent on that
welderguy
08-03-2009, 11:59 AM
My plan is to take in only women of questionable moral values, that can shoot straight, split wood, haul water. & butcher moose.

Hope I know One that kinda fits that description, except the "butcher a moose" part , however she is built like a moose, just putting that out there incase your interested.
AVENGED
08-03-2009, 01:49 PM
My Goal Is To Make My Way To Cabela's And Barricade The Doors Shut And Survive In There.......:cool2: But Seriously. I Have Also Make Changes To Fit In Family And A Few Close Friends... The Biggest Problem Was Caring For My 3 Year Old Nephew, Just Taking Into Account All His Needs Was A Job In It's Self.
Rick
08-03-2009, 02:09 PM
however she is built like a moose

You might give that some serious thought, Hope. It's better than smelling like a moose.
jrock24
08-03-2009, 03:05 PM
If SHTF I would be gone, so if they came by my house it would be empty.
2dumb2kwit
08-03-2009, 08:33 PM
however she is built like a moose,

On the bright side......a big girl makes shade in the summer and warmth in the winter!:innocent:
rebel_chick
08-03-2009, 09:55 PM
My Goal Is To Make My Way To Cabela's And Barricade The Doors Shut And Survive In There.......:cool2: But Seriously. I Have Also Make Changes To Fit In Family And A Few Close Friends... The Biggest Problem Was Caring For My 3 Year Old Nephew, Just Taking Into Account All His Needs Was A Job In It's Self.


hey, that was my idea! LOL, or atleast raid it.
rebel_chick
08-03-2009, 10:00 PM
If SHTF I would be gone, so if they came by my house it would be empty.


That us, i ain't sticking around my house to see what happens. I am taking all that me, David, 2 quads, 5 dogs and 2 horses can carry and headed out. Got a friend with 4 horses and a daughter, whatever they bring along. Hmmm...duct tape, kid give our position away. Gunna truck and trailer everything that we can for as long as we can and begin ditching the gas guzzlers along the way. Nothing here that we can survive on, must find water and food.

My family can care for them selves, they wouldn't show up at my door anyway. We aren"t a close knit family anyway. My parents would be my only concern.
Rick
08-04-2009, 12:05 AM
And she hunts with an AK so if you DO show up at her door.........just sayin'.
huntermj
08-04-2009, 08:57 PM
My blood relatives would never even think to look for me. Havent spoken to them for over a decade and they dont know where i live. The friends i have nearby are prepared. But i am renting at this time and the people i rent from live on the property. They are real nice folks with three kids and i would do everything to help them out. I figure that if i dont own the property i should make myself very useful.
Winnie
08-05-2009, 04:58 AM
Now there you've struck a chord Huntermj. I too rent but my landlord isn't local. There are plenty more things I could do to prepare, but am unwilling to because of this. Having been evicted(through no fault of my own) once before I'm loath to spend too much just in case it happens again.
As for relatives, I have most of my family local and none of them prepare. Of course I'd take them in but I couldn't feed us for long.
Rick
08-05-2009, 05:29 AM
Winnie - I'm sure there are still a lot of folks that remember the war and the rationing and all. You might talk to some of them and ask them how they got by. What little tricks they employed to stretch the food and the oil. No sense in reinventing the wheel if what they did can work for you.

As a specie we sure do forget the lean times in a hurry along with all the lessons they taught us.
Winnie
08-05-2009, 06:47 AM
Winnie - I'm sure there are still a lot of folks that remember the war and the rationing and all. You might talk to some of them and ask them how they got by. What little tricks they employed to stretch the food and the oil. No sense in reinventing the wheel if what they did can work for you.

As a specie we sure do forget the lean times in a hurry along with all the lessons they taught us.

Got it covered Rick! I have my Grannies very battered cookery book and my mum was a whizz at making a meal from nothing and I paid attention:) (She could make 4 meals for a family of 5 from one chicken!)
There's still only so far you make make things go though, but I'd never turn them away.
wareagle69
08-05-2009, 07:35 AM
That us, i ain't sticking around my house to see what happens. I am taking all that me, David, 2 quads, 5 dogs and 2 horses can carry and headed out. Got a friend with 4 horses and a daughter, whatever they bring along. Hmmm...duct tape, kid give our position away. Gunna truck and trailer everything that we can for as long as we can and begin ditching the gas guzzlers along the way. Nothing here that we can survive on, must find water and food.

My family can care for them selves, they wouldn't show up at my door anyway. We aren"t a close knit family anyway. My parents would be my only concern.

take this as a positive question rebel chick
are you in the valley?
now based on my expereince the best way to go would be north either up the 17 to flaggstaff and beyond or up thru snottsdale to the mogollon rim thru payson to the white mountains or such areas but
have you driven those roads on a hot weekend, man busy busy busy, now imagine during a shtf scenario, especially with all the equipmnet you are talking about moving. one of the reasons i left AZ, miss it more than you can imagine, but that is why i chose where i am at
if you have not read my thread "an absolute must read" please click on it from the begining, don't have to read all the comments but consider the options, then please let me know your thoughts
wilf123
08-06-2009, 10:21 AM
i live on a little island called the uk if the shtf you are all welcome to my place the least i can do for my brothers in arms fighting the nwo
Rick
08-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Welcome wilf. Why not start out by giving us an introduction. You can view how to do that here:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7813

As for the New World Order...that is what you meant, right?......I'm the head of it so let's not have any talk of fighting. It tends to stir up the masses then I have to come out of my tower and talk to folks and....well....it's just beneath me quite a bit to speak to common folk.

I hope your place is a bit large 'cause you just invited 6.7 billion people and their pets to your place. By the way, what time is dinner?
Ken
08-06-2009, 05:01 PM
I hope your place is a bit large 'cause you just invited 6.7 billion people and their pets to your place. By the way, what time is dinner?

If Rick's first in line, 6,699,999,999 people ain't gonna' be eating. :innocent:
Winnie
08-06-2009, 06:47 PM
If Rick's first in line, 6,699,999,999 people ain't gonna' be eating. :innocent:

And I certainly can't make a chicken go that far:blushing: I'm good, but not that good!
wilf123
08-07-2009, 02:47 AM
rick dinners at 1.30pm bring your kfs eat all you like mr g brown is paying.
Rick
08-07-2009, 05:54 AM
Funny you should mention Gordon. We had dinner just last week. What a funny guy. When I walked in he said, "Yo! What up, dude?" I got a good laugh out of that. Yeah, that Gordon is a crazy, funny guy.
wilf123
08-07-2009, 09:11 AM
yeh loves spending other peoples money on getting his back lawn cut 50 yards by 15 1500 thats over$2000 in your cash i bet obama dont beat that
Tx Rd Kill
08-07-2009, 10:11 AM
.... and begin ditching the gas guzzlers along the way. Nothing here that we can survive on, must find water and food.

My family can care for them selves, they wouldn't show up at my door anyway. We aren"t a close knit family anyway. My parents would be my only concern.


Look into a small hydrogen generator (fuel cell) simple and easy to make.
A pickle jar 2 - 12 ga wires, couple hoses and you can make a tank of gas go alot farther.
Rick
08-07-2009, 10:47 AM
But don't the pickles clog the fuel injectors? What am I missing here?
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