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Jonesy

07-06-2009, 02:24 PM

I made this tutorial a few years ago. I hope you all enjoy it and make that knife you have always wanted to.

Have you always wanted to make a knife ut don't have the tools or equipment of the pro's? Relax you can make a knife to be proud of. I will tell you how to
make a simple useable knife and have a little fun doing this.

If you are ready to start here is a list things you will need to move forward. The materials I used to make this tutorial can be substituted with different materials that may be easier or cheaper to aquire. Either way you will make a knife and it will put a grin on your face you can't tear off!! It will also make a serviceable knife that you can really use. It won't really matter because after the "first" you won't be able to stop...it is like M&M's...try to eat just one.

A piece of 5160 steel from a Spring and axle shop. about 1.80 a pound or so. The will also have a metal muncher to make it the length you want or need. Talk to them, sometimes they will give you a drop for nothing. Get a new flat piece not an old car spring.(1095 carbon steel will work great too)

Now off to the hardware store(home depot,lowes) and find the strips of oak. 4.00 for a 1/4"x2"x3'. I found it in the trim section.

Now find the welding dept and buy a 1/8" brass brazing rod for 1.50.

2 ea 1/8" drill bits 2.00
two files one flat and one half round 7.50
120 grit 2 sheets 1.00 (wet/dry)
240 grit 2 sheets 1.00 (wet/dry)

Were up to 19.00 bucks. Your own handmade knife PRICELESS!!!

A few more ideas are rattling around in my head so here we go.
When you get that piece of steel from the spring shop see if you can get the thinnest piece they have. My spring shop has material as thin as .212 and 1 1/2 wide. This is pretty thick for a small blade but it will work. Also for the first blade keep the design simple. 3-3 1/2" long for the blade as you will be using a file to make the flats for the blade.
A wharncliffe blade profile is fairly easy to start with because the cutting edge is straight and easy to file in a straight line. Keep the handle design smooth and comfortable without a lot of fancy finger grooves and guards. That will come on your next knife.

A couple of things I forgot to add to the shopping list, a cheap hack saw and a couple of fine tooth blades for it. Also need a C-clamp large enough to use to clamp your blade to a table or bench. If you dont have a c lamp or bench we can get around that to a little later in the tutorial, no problem.
This is going to add 10.00 to the total but I bet most of you have some of these things or know someone to borrow them from.
You will need an electric hand drill. borrow it if you don't have one, your not going to do any damage to it anyway just drilling a bunch of holes.

For the next step I will be taking some pictures to explain the next steps. Also let me add the disclaimer that much of this information I acquired over the years through magazines and books and just added a few of my own ideas and adapted them for that first inexpensive blade.

Here we go
First pic is the shape of blade drawn with a marker. I used a 1/4 drill bit and drilled around the profile. It takes a lot of the hacksaw work out of it and makes the curves easier to cut.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=904
Screw the blade to a bench or stump or whatever you have and cut out the handle portion only. If you have a vice or clamp by all means use them. Remove the material so you can file the handle to shape. Do this first because you won't have any way to screw the blade to the bench if you cut out the entire blade. do the handle work first! Once the handle is to a pretty good shape remove and screw to the bench through the handle and cut out blade.
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Ok I forgot to add the 1/4 inch drill bit to the list so add it.
I drilled all around the profile of the blade. This really makes it easy to use the haksaw to cut out the profile. I just unscrewed from the bench and repositioned as need to cut off the excess for the handle. I drilled the 1/8" holes for the pins in the handle and the 1/4" holes in the handle to allow me to screw to the bench to work on the blade ortion. I have the handle filed and added a couple of finger grooves for the heck of it. I am ready to saw the business end now and file the rest of the profile. Next I will file the bevels. Be patient it takes time with the files.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=906

I will post some more pics when the forum allows me to add them to my albums and give the rest of the info for the knife.
Until then I hope you enjoy the tutorial
Scott "Jonesy" Jones

Jonesy

07-06-2009, 02:32 PM

Ok now I have the knife blank cut out and the edges filed. It is starting to take shape.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=907

marked the edge of the blade using my 1/4 inch drill bit. Black the edge using a marker or a sharpie. Slide the drill bit point along the edge and it will scribe a line. Turn the blade over and do the other side. You will get two lines about .025 to .030 apart. If the lines are two close re-black and roll the drill bit to move the point up or down accordingly and re-scribe. The lines will be about 1/2 the thickness of a penny apart. It won't be too critical for this knife but these lines will provide you with a reference when you file the flats for the blade.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=908
Next using those handy dandy deck screws fasten to the bench top. Start flat filing the flats. The object is to join the scribed line and the top edge of the blade at the same time. This is going to require a lot of elbow grease and patients. And maybe a few refreshments along the way.

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To help me file flat I was using a marker and filing very slow and trying to keep it flat. The marker will show you the hi spots that you need to bring down.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=912

Jonesy

07-06-2009, 02:35 PM

Trying to keep with the cheapo theme here is our sanding block, A paint stir stick. I first sanded along the area that would be called the plunge. I used the stir stick and 120 grit to clean this area up. Then I started sanding lengthwise plunge to tip until all the rough file marks are gone. This will also make it flat. Use a little soap and water as a lube to keep your sandpaper from loading up. Be sure to wipe the blade down dry when your done or you will have rust tomorrow.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=913

Start sanding the flats and handle area. Don't take out all the imperfections just remove the scale until you get some bare metal. It will add a little character to the finished knife

Okay the fire is started. I used hedge for a fire in the back yard. We have a fire pit already so here we go. Hedge burns hot and we have a slight breeze that worked in my favor. Here are the things your gonna need to work with the blade. I got the magnet from my boys toy box. I struggled with the tong/cheap issue so here goes. Two pieces of 1/2"square tube 3' long and stuck an old set of pliers in the ends and beat the metal around them to hold together. Here is the quench solution, very top secret but here is a hint. Those are old oil filters from the last oil change on the vehicles
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=914
Put that blade in the hot coals. It will take about 10 to 15 minute depending on how many and how hot the coals are. It is your first so pull it out and look at it for a couple of seconds every 2 or three minutes and check it with the magnet on the cutting edge from tip to plunge. If the magnet has a pull on it it is not ready to quench put it back and let it get cherry red. Try not to heat it any longer than is needed by checking every minute or two when you think you are close.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=915

Jonesy

07-06-2009, 02:47 PM

It is time to quench in the secret oil. Magnet does not stick and the color is sweet.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=916
I quenched the blade only putting about 2/3 of it in the oil. The cutting edge down and held it there until the flame was gone, about a minute and the slowly placed the rest of the blade in the oil until it was covered and no more smoke. Now I pull it out and it will be covered black and nasty. I dipped it in a bucket of water to get the temp down so I can hold in my hand. Now your saying is it really hard? well check it out. Using the file you can run it at about a 30 degree angle with a fairly light touch not to hard and the file will slide off the edge without trying to grab. You will be able to feel it because you have just done a bunch of filing. If it slides of the edge wipe it down with a rag clean off all the oil. You can use soap and water just wipe it down. If the file grabs you need to go back to the fire and do it again. Assuming the blade is hard after your file test, we need to draw some of the hardness out of it so we don't have a brittle edge and point. Files are very brittle and the edge of your knife is just as hard right now. Preheat your kitchen oven to 375 - 400 degrees. Place your knife on the rack now and bake for 45 minutes. now let it cool to room temp and bake again for another 45 minutes at 375-400. BTW the reason we clean off all the oil from the blade is so you don't smoke the house up. After this you are ready to clean up your blade. So get to sanding and get ready to put the handles on this baby.

Next...

I placed the knife on the handle and cut two pieces for the slabs. place the knife near the top edge so you don't have a lot of filing on at least one edge. I have the brass pin material cut and ready for the next step. Drilling the holes for our pin material.

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I put all three pins in and marked the outline of the knife on the slab of oak.
I also decide now where the front of the slab will be when I epoxy and pin to the knife. Bad pic, I will make a better one but I think you can see the desired look with the black line on the blade. I mark on the wood the start and finish of that line and then draw an arc to join the lines.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=919
Left hand slab has been filed and sanded at the front where we won't be able to do a lot of forming after they are epoxied to the blade.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=920
Now pencil the shape of the left slab to the right. Mainly the front area.
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Check to see if left slab is good and flat and flush to the metal. If you need to, flatten on sand paper and the Kitchen counter top. Formica is usually pretty flat
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Match up the slabs and file and sand until you get a mirror images of left and right slab. Again I am only referring to the front edge. Check them on the knife
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=923
At this point if you have nice flat slabs and no gaps between the slab and the metal you are ready to cut some pin material just enough to stick out past the slab on each side. Degrease the blade good where you are going to place the slabs. Dish soap and hot water with an old toothbrush then rinse real good and wipe dry. Hit it with the hair dryer for a few minutes if you want to make sure it is completely dry. I cut the pin material and sanded the rough edges off so they go through the wood without
causing splinters when I tap them through. I used clear epoxy and covered the interior of the slabs. and placed them on the knife and drove the pins in the holes. I wrapped the whole thing with 4 fat rubber bands and let it dry. Wipe as much epoxy off the area wear the slab meets the flat of the blade near the front. Here is the finished knife.

BY:
Scott Jones
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=924
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I wanted to add that I did this a long time ago. I just recently decided to get back into making knives and enjoying the various forums. Obviously some of the prices have changed (gone up) so I will be editing the tutorial from time to time to update info and improve the copy.

If you would like a PDF copy of the tutorial for yourself just drop me a PM here on the forum and I will send it to you.

If you have questions, input, ideas, improvements just post them here.
I would really enjoy hearing from you/posting if you have used this tutorial to make that first knife.

Thanks for checking it out,

Scott Jones

panch0

07-06-2009, 02:53 PM

I saw this one in the newbies section on BF. I used it as reference when making my first knife. Never had a chance to say thanks, so Thanks.

Jonesy

07-06-2009, 03:01 PM

Your Welcome ! :)

Rick

07-06-2009, 03:32 PM

Man. Nice job.

COWBOYSURVIVAL

07-06-2009, 03:36 PM

Looks Like a good knife. Good instructional too!

crashdive123

07-06-2009, 03:42 PM

Real nice work Jonesy. Your tutorial will come in handy.

rebel

07-06-2009, 05:30 PM

Thanks Jonesy. I'll have to give that a try.

Ken

07-06-2009, 05:41 PM

GREAT TUTORIAL! Thanks! :clap:

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