Ridiculousness

[trax]

Just a little rant here, some of the stuff we share and talk about makes me wonder.

First up...survival knife---know what? If you've got a knife and you use it for your survival, it's a survival knife. I don't care what size it is or what it's made of or who recommends it or how well it works. It'll work well if you know how to use a knife properly in most applications

Second up...battle rifles vs. survival rifles. Hello? If I have to shoot an animal for food, that makes it a survival rifle, if I have to shoot someone who I'm really sure is going to shoot me, that makes it a battle rifle. Again, size, make, caliber, color, all matters not a whit to me.

When I read all these threads on what's restricted or not restricted according to different governments in different states or areas (bear in mind that Canada wants to know about every firearm and bullet I own) I have to wonder. I mean, it's legal for anyone anywhere (as far as I know) to carry around a flashlight large enough that they could club a person to death with it, if that's how the person chose to use it, but hopefully they plan on using it to find things in the dark. See what I mean?

I'm not offering any particular answers here, except maybe if you're new to outdoors, get equipment you're comfortable with and use it---in the outdoors. You're not going to see me walking around Wally World or the hardware store with my rifle, skinning knife, or a flashlight, unless I'm there buying new ones. Keep yer noses to the wind and have a good night kiddies.
--Trax

[Yakov]

I carry a TOW missile launcher.

[Rick]

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[Yakov]

No but for serious, I think a lot of what you're ranting about is just club talk. We're listed as a subculture in reference materials, so, hey, everyone's gotta have friends to talk to! But there is such a gray zone in what is legal or not in some places that it's always a good issue to raise, because all it takes is one person who doesn't agree with you being able to carry your knife or whatever to cite you for it and make your life harder than it is. The whole "subculture" definition is a little harsh and has a lot of negative connotations attached to it, and your average person is going to probably freak out about it and call the police. Personally, I like to carry a few things on my person at all times for the same reason people keep a bag in their cars. You never know what might happen during the day. As for the size of a skinning knife, rifle or whatnot (which the latter is a little exaggerated!), I think one should carry what they need to use to survive. I would hate to have to chop off a branch with a swiss army knife if it came to it because I was afraid to carry a larger knife in public. So I respectfully disagree, I think all of those questions are viable.

[crashdive123]

Sub culture? Yeah did that, then retired.

[Badawg]

It's kinda funny what you say there trax... Cause when I am walking around anywhere(but an airport or courthouse anyway), I have an SAK, A photon light, and a lighter in my pocket... Those are pretty much the most important things I can think of to have in my pockets... And I use them all the time, as they are tools. Just today I fixed the paper towel dispenser in the men's room at work with my "survival knife". And a rifle or skinner would have been useless for that ;)

[Mountain Man]

They make flashlights that have a purpose as a STABBING weapon, you have to be 18yrs/o or more to buy them as they are considered a "knife".

I think one is the surefire defender. Probably illegal in canada ;)

[OICU812]

That's the world we live in. Sweating the details has long been mans downfall and putt'n off tomorrow is his claim to fame.

[Ole WV Coot]

Glad you got that straight. I thought I was odd never wearing camo, special firearms, optics or knives. I thought I was just lucky grabbing anything Daddy would let me hunt with and used my pocket knife, Case stockman for everything. No canteen because I knew where decent water was and I never had a hunting license until I hunted in VA, no fishing license either. We hunted day and night and did fine. I carried a handful of ammo, pocket knife & matches. Nothin extra on the clothes either.

[Rick]

Oh, those were the good old days. Camo for us was a pair of high tops, blue jeans and a solid colored T shirt. Anything for our dads' pile of WWII gear was a plus.

[trax]

I think I really suck at making my points or some folks don't get them.

I'm just saying we get so over-involved, someone asks what's the best survival knife and then starts going on about knives that are illegal where they live. Well then, what does it matter? Carry something legal. It will work. I read an entire discourse on battle versus survival rifles (isn't battle the ultimate survival test?) Newbies are gonna be scratching their heads going huh? I need to go out and spend 15 large on a keltec? C'mon.

Use what you have available, practice, get good at it and go get some mud on your boots. Look at this jag kid, yeah he's a mouthpiece but his little survival stint he's gonna have someone checking on him anywhere, and everyone wanted to dump on him for being a big mouth. Well....fourteen year olds tend to be bigmouths, so send him off to the bush. His Dad'll rescue him if he screws up.

The best new threads I've seen in here in some time are preach-the-Word's poo threads. Go out into nature and learn something about the critters folks, that's gonna do more for your wilderness survival than whether your tent is made of nylon A or nylon B or what the heck ever.

Oh yeah, and there's nothing "sub-culture" or cultish about Free Traxistan, now drink your KoolAid.....

[Pict]

"If you're new to outdoors, get equipment you're comfortable with and use it."

Right there you have both the start of the journey and the way itself. There is no way to gimmick your way around developing actual skill. Time in the bush will teach you more than anything else. Time in the bush will also teach you exactly you want to buy in terms of gear.

The next best teacher is to study people who make their living off the land or spend a great deal of time in it. Normally in any location you will spot a trend and find that local people who employ blades as a matter of routine use very mundane looking knives. Mac

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

i like to carry a sheath knife and a flint stick(dependables to fall back on in case nature doesnt provide when i need). like comfort food, the gadgetry provides comfort and security. when surviving, any tool becomes a survival tool.

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