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rat31465
06-08-2009, 09:06 PM
I recently came across a thread in another forum which asked the question:
If you were in a survival situation...lost and knowing that you were looking at a possible extended stay (More than a week) Weather conditions could range from freezing temps and snow to rain and mid 70's. Other than the Pocket Knife that you have with you at all times.
What one tool that you already own would you want with you as well?

I gave it some thought and came to the conclusion that I would want the Military issued Entrenching Tool (E-Tool) that my wifes ex-brother in law...a former Army Ranger, gave to me back in 1989.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=101&pictureid=881
I have used this tool an awful lot while camping and hiking and there isn't any other tool I have that I can do as much with and have always considered the usefullness of it to over shadow the extra weight I have to carry.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=101&pictureid=882
It will cut saplings up to wrist sized with ease for making shelter poles and larger trees are possible...Dug firepits and split kindling wood for campfires. One can even use the blade as a skillet for cooking upon should the need arise. All around I consider it my one perfect survival tool.

Ken
06-08-2009, 09:09 PM
It's a great tool. I got my first one at the local Army-Navy Store. $3.00

Sarge47
06-08-2009, 09:22 PM
...a freakin' motor home!:innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

Schleprok
06-08-2009, 09:27 PM
Sarge wins!!!

Ken
06-08-2009, 09:28 PM
...a freakin' motor home!:innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

A whole lotta' wisdom there! http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Zen/zen-22.gif (http://www.smileyshut.com/Smileys/Smiley-Huts-Free-Zen-Smileys.html)

rat31465
06-08-2009, 09:29 PM
...a freakin' motor home!:innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

I bow to your wisdom Sir.

Ken
06-08-2009, 09:31 PM
I bow to your wisdom Sir.

THAT'S what Sarge wants! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-whacky084.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Ole WV Coot
06-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Good choice, works for me.

Sourdough
06-08-2009, 10:31 PM
My friend............or the long handled Estwing Axe.

Ken
06-08-2009, 10:33 PM
My friend............

THAT is one cool dog! :clap:

panch0
06-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Good choice in a tool. You could probably knock out a rabbit also for food. I have been wantinf one of those for a while now

rat31465
06-08-2009, 11:49 PM
I considered my favorite axe as well...but as posted I have used this e-tool to cut through some pretty thick branches and trees. Good enough for shelter building, firewood etc.

This tool sells for $30.00 at my local Army Surplus store...just how long ago was it that you got one for $3.00 Ken?

I watched an episode of Deadliest Warriors awhile back where the Russian Spetsnav was pitted against the Green Berets. The Green Beret used this tool to obliterate the skull of a test dummy...so I guess it would be an effective self defense tool for close in work as well.

I usually have a length of Para Cord wrapped around the handle of the tool, and some snare wire around the shank just forward of the handle.

DOGMAN
06-09-2009, 12:07 AM
What one tool would I take???

Well,I believe old Chuck Berry sang it best

"My Ding A Ling"

When I was a little bitty boy
my grandmother bought me a cute little toy
Silver bells hangin' on a string
she told me it was my ding a ling

My ding a ling, my ding a ling
I want to play with my ding a ling
My ding a ling, my ding a ling
I want to play with my ding a ling

And then mother took me to Grammer School
But I stopped in the hallway vestibule
And Every time that bell would ring
they'd catch me playin' with my ding a ling

Once I was climbing the garden wall
I slipped and had a terrible fall
I fell so hard I heard bells ring
but held on to my ding a ling

Once I was swimming cross Turtle creek
man. those snappers all around my feet
Sure was hard swimming cross that thing
with both hands holdin' my ding a ling

This here song it aint so sad
the cutest little song you ever had
And, for those of you who will not sing
You must be playin' with your own ding a ling
Ohh, My ding a ling

Your ding a ling, your ding a ling
We saw you playin' with your ding a ling
My ding a ling everybody sing
I want to play with my ding a ling

Ken
06-09-2009, 12:19 AM
This tool sells for $30.00 at my local Army Surplus store...just how long ago was it that you got one for $3.00 Ken?

It was quite a while back. (Now that I'm thinking of it maybe, say, 30+ years ago - when I bought my first machetti for $2.00) However, I believe I've seen them recently for around $10.00. I'm sure that they're way less than $30.00.

One thing I've found is that the prices at different Army-Navy Stores vary considerably. The best one I've been to in years is in Provincetown, Mass. Two years back I got my honey a genuine leather back-pack style "pocketbook" there for $15.00. It's just a bit smaller than my Maxpedition Falcon II. Real Leather! Can you believe the price? She gets compliments on it all the time.

The fact is, we left that place with so much stuff that we had to go back to the car with it all right away - nearly filled the trunk. About 5 years back, I got my son a great frame pack there. About $25.00. Bargains, bargains, bargains.

There are Army Navy Stores in Providence, R.I. and Fall River, MA that are okay. A real good one in Newport, R.I. closed last year. :thumbdown: Can't understand why - the place was usually packed with shoppers.

Antifeds
06-09-2009, 12:58 AM
This tool sells for $30.00 at my local Army Surplus store...just how long ago was it that you got one for $3.00 Ken?


Check out the Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel, its modeled after the Spetznaz model. http://survivalgeardepot.com/product_images/g/92sf_full_334__46151.jpg

COWBOYSURVIVAL
06-09-2009, 01:40 AM
It is a good tool, careful though the jam nut is plastic if it isn't a relic!

Ken
06-09-2009, 02:29 AM
Check it out. $9.95 http://www.bananasinc.com/mp17.html

rat31465
06-09-2009, 10:04 AM
The Army Surplus Store here in Springfield Mo seems the think that everything they have are priceless antiques..or gold plated. There are very few things that I do actually buy there although they do keep a good selection of para cord there.
I did recently pick up a Jersey Miners Axe there for a reasonable price. (This Axe has a 3 1/2 lb head with a short 18" handle.) I put a longer handle on mine and use it for splitting firewood...very good axe.

Rick
06-09-2009, 10:43 AM
I have a folder in my BOB. It's a bit heavy to carry on my pack. But, as Crash says, "If it works for you, it works for me."

trax
06-09-2009, 01:01 PM
We had this question ages ago here. My answer hasn't changed...a satellite phone, call someone to get me, or you know order a pizza and get a ride out with the delivery guy. (But I don't already own one, guess I should look into that)

Badawg
06-09-2009, 01:13 PM
For those of you out there not in the know... There are many imitations of the real d handle E-tool. My experience has been that they are cheap POS's and should be avoided. I have a real one that I got 20 years ago and it's a good tool. I also have a WWII issue one, and it's a beast! Extremely high quality digger and HEAVY. The E-tool only advantage is weight and size. In all other respects the Ash shafted one is better for digging.

Incidentally the real Spetznatz shovel was Titanium. I worked for the only importer but they sold them out before I had enough cash to get one back in '99. I did manage to get a titanium crowbar though, and it's a wonderful tool.

SARKY
06-09-2009, 01:32 PM
I have the tri-fold shovel (early model) a WWII e-tool and the cold steel Spetnaz model. Of the 3 the tri fold is at the bottom for my favorites. I really like the lightness of the Spetnaz and the edges can be easily sharpened. Another plus is that the Spetnaz is easy to throw, much like a hawk. The WWII E-Tool although heavy is the best of the lot. It is solid built, the head can be locked at 90 degrees to use as a pick and the wooden handle is easily replaced if it breaks. The Spetnaz and WWII E-tool are more easily weilded as a weapon.

doren
06-09-2009, 06:15 PM
I have a German trenching tool from '68. Mine has the option to lock at 90 degrees and it also has the pick on the reverse. I love mine. I paid $15.

Sarge47
06-09-2009, 06:35 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what? Hopeak has a 'dozer! :innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

crashdive123
06-09-2009, 06:51 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what? Hopeak has a 'dozer! :innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

So do you!

Oh wait a second....his is made by Catepillar and yours is made by K-Bar.

Rick
06-09-2009, 08:36 PM
I think Fiskars currently makes the USMC e-tool as well as the Gerber e-tool. It's supposed to be made with glass fiber and Boron steel so I would imagine it's a lot lighter than the all steel versions.

EDIT: I had to go to Finland but I found it:

http://www.gerbergear.com/index.php/products/gear

EDIT: Just to confirm Fiskars makes Gerber:

http://www.fiskars.fi/en/index.html

Click on OUTDOOR

rat31465
06-10-2009, 12:25 PM
Okay, let me try and rephrase my question.
Other than a Motor Home,Bull-Dozer, Satellite Phone, what survival tool that you currently own and keep in your pocket, pack or gear would you want with you in this scenario?

Ohh this ought to be good? Sheeeesh...!

erunkiswldrnssurvival
06-10-2009, 12:43 PM
i have one of those shovels too. (mine is russian army). nearly unbreakable,and light weight it makes a very good machette/axe or a wedge for splitting logs. so useful for other things, i barely use mine to dig with, though it was designed for that.

Rick
06-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Besides my knife, huh? I guess my Estwing Sportsman axe. I'm learning to love that thing.

Badawg
06-10-2009, 02:49 PM
My Ka-bar kukhri would be it. It digs, it cuts, it slices and dices.

Ken
06-10-2009, 04:15 PM
My Ka-bar kukhri would be it. It digs, it cuts, it slices and dices.

But, is it made by Ginsu? http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw020-ginsu_knives.jpg

Yuma Kutsuu
06-14-2009, 04:39 PM
http://www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com/DSCN0126.jpg

Meet The Companion designed by Becker with Ka-bar. This knife is about average fixed blade length. I cannot do this knife justice by talking about it. I saw a man selling this knife and I picked it up and felt the weight of it and the feel it had overall and I instantly got the $100 that this thing cost. It is made of high-carbon steel and since I bought it months ago it has seen it's use and has not lost it's edge in the slightest even when compairing to Spyderco's VG-10 steel it comes out on top. This knife combines the chopping power of a bushman knife and the sheer maneuverability and blade of a combat knife this would be my "one" tool.

crashdive123
06-14-2009, 06:17 PM
$100 for a Becker Companion? I guess there is a wide range of prices.

Trouble
06-16-2009, 11:17 PM
My iPod. My mental state would suffer way faster than my physical state. i mean, I could dig with my hands and make a knife out of a rock :P

Rick
06-17-2009, 07:06 AM
What? You can't make your own music?

Trouble
06-24-2009, 12:32 PM
Yeah but it's nothing compared to my top playlists! :P

oldsoldier
06-24-2009, 06:52 PM
FYI just checked here at my local surplus store Military issue E-tools run $ 14.95 MILSPEC (plastic and metal) run $9.95.

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