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Sarge47
05-24-2009, 09:04 AM
Every so often we get the Louis L'Amour line: "One to ride the river with." So I got to wondering, who would you "ride" with? 1st just let me say that there are several on here that "claim" to know their stuff, but I don't trust "hornblowers" all that much as it might turn out that I would wind up trying to drown them in the river, much less "ride it" with them. So here's my picks for folks I would be okay in an extreme outdoor situation with:

Bruce Zed
Rick
Crash
Ken
Laughing Beetle
Robert Rodgers
Sgt Draino
Klkak
PGV Outdoors (even though I know he's left us.)
Gray Wolf
Beowulf(shot-up tush & all)
Wareagle
Doug1980
Swamprat
Chiye tanka
erunkis...
Smok
Rebel
Jason Montana
Pict
Nell
Trax.

So...?:cool2:

mcfd45
05-24-2009, 09:21 AM
Every so often we get the Louis L'Amour line: "One to ride the river with." So I got to wondering, who would you "ride" with? 1st just let me say that there are several on here that "claim" to know their stuff, but I don't trust "hornblowers" all that much as it might turn out that I would wind up trying to drown them in the river, much less "ride it" with them. So here's my picks for folks I would be okay in an extreme outdoor situation with:

Bruce Zed
Rick
Crash
Ken
Laughing Beetle
Robert Rodgers
Sgt Draino
Klkak
PGV Outdoors (even though I know he's left us.)
Gray Wolf
Beowulf(shot-up tush & all)
Wareagle
Doug1980
Swamprat
Chiye tanka
erunkis...
Smok
Rebel
Jason Montana
Pict
Nell
Trax.

So...?:cool2:

I see the scene from jaws were the police chief is chumming and sees the shark for the first time. He then says "we're gonna need a bigger boat!"
My list includes the only member I personally know. Sam.

oly
05-24-2009, 09:28 AM
I hate to blow my own horn but my younger day I use to float down the steam on an inner tube that went a whopping 5 feet per minute:airhorn:

FVR
05-24-2009, 09:37 AM
I agree with the "I personally know" comment from Sam.

My wife, she's a tough one.

Allan a hunting buddy, he'd probably be late then get lost. I have no worry that he would not survive and be there if needed.

Tim, as I know he is far more knowledgeable than I, a bit stand offish on the personality dept. but that works for me.

Not to insult many here, but we don't personally know each other. We may get along on the net (most times) but in person, in the backwoods, some may talk too much, or feel they are super Alpha, you may be the kind that does not push, or you may be the kind that push too much.

You may want to drink all your water at once, then want some of mine, or you may feel super and drink from a stream and get sick. You may screw around trying to be super primitive, when using a match would work just fine. Or you could be the kind that brings everything and the kitchen sink, and expects others to carry.

You may be the one who needs to tell others about everything you know, all the time. Or you could be the loner who does not give a crap about anyone but themselves.


Now, if'n we are sitting around a campfire, all ya'll would be just fine. I'll even break out the Apple Pie.

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 09:43 AM
I hear what your saying. Waaay back when I was in the explorer Scouts in Wisconsin I would invite guys I'd gotten along with at the Job Corps center to go camping with us. 99% of the time it was a mistake. However, admittedly, my choices are based on what I read here. Doin the real thing could very well be an eye-opener! But hey, life's an adventure!:cool2:

dolfan87
05-24-2009, 10:44 AM
I don't know any of you personally, but from reading threads the two that come to mind for me is Hopeak, and Pict.

mountain mama
05-24-2009, 11:17 AM
I'd probably have to go with Nell. Quite frankly, the rest of y'all just scare me :tt2:

Pal334
05-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Were I to pick, I would stick with folks I have known and "ridden" with already. Makes life less complex when you already know how they react. This forum is great for information sharing and good chat, but a bit short on really knowing a person.

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Were I to pick, I would stick with folks I have known and "ridden" with already. Makes life less complex when you already know how they react. This forum is great for information sharing and good chat, but a bit short on really knowing a person.Good point Pal, however that would then exclude everybody on here as far as I'm concerned. So I'm just asking based on what's been written here. No points lost for decling to do so however!:)

Pict
05-24-2009, 12:13 PM
I hesitate to make lists. I have learned some good info from many people here and many seem like they are squared away in the bush.

I spend alot of time in the bush leading groups of four or five people who mostly have scant wilderness knowledge. For the most part they do very well. I let them make some mistakes if I feel they will learn more from making the mistake. I won't ever let someone do something I feel will be unsafe to them or another and I come down hard on them for certain things. You don't mess with fire, you don't play with blades, you don't mess with other people, you carry your load. Wilderness survival training is hard physical labor and I don't tolerate people who are lazy. Tired I get, we're all tired, thirsty, hot, sweaty, hungry, we're clear on that too. I tell them at the outset, don't complain about what you can't change but if you can alter the situation for the better you are morally obligated to do so. The whole point of the exercise is that you have everything in your power to alter the situation. I come down hard on people who complain about the rain but won't take responsibility for their own need for shelter or fire.

I love watching the transformation that takes place in the group after a few days in the bush. I see them start to think for themselves, observe things they walked past the day before. Above all they LISTEN, guys that were cutting up the first day will be radar locked on me as I'm explaining something because they know full well they didn't listen, didn't do, but then suffered the natural consequences.

I have had a few guys that go through the basic course and get totally hooked and bug me non-stop to go out again. These guys get invited back to do the advanced mountain course and I give them much greater autonomy, they sleep off on their own and are expected to do everything they did in the basic course without being told. They are a pleasure to work with.

The best is when I get to go out with other addicts who have as much or more experience and I'm not there to teach. I learn and relax and its a whole different experience. I'm sure, from the what is written here, that lots of guys fall into that category. Mac

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 12:17 PM
That's why you're on my list!:)

FVR
05-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Hmmmmmmm........what's been written.

Well, first I'd go to my buddy list as that shows that we have "some" thangs in common.

Beo. - no need for an explanation........we see many things alike.

Chigger - Dental guy.....def. backwoods man and his grits (even though I don't like them) will keep me filled.

VW aka Remy - Will either keep me sane or drive me crazy.

Chiya Tanka - One with the earth is one who survives.

Aureious - Well rounded not so know it all.

Crash - Retired Navy can't be all that bad. Bus. owner knows what sacrifice means.

Erunk - A, Duhhhhh........he can make a bowl out of a pile of sand.

Nell - An outdoors woman with a heart will keep all the arseholes inline.

PGV - A, Duhhh...........outdoor guide.

Rebel - We all need a rebel in the group. Keeps the group sharp and on it's toes.

Sam - A, Duhhhhh.........cook!! he can cook in Erunk's sand pot.

Tim - The unkown adventurer. "Hey Tim, what's over that mountain?" Tim "I'll tell ya tommorrow."

Tony UK - Well if he spends all that money the trip to the US, the least we can do is put him in the group. A diff. perspective from a whole diff. continent.


Then I hope that I can keep up with all of them.

crashdive123
05-24-2009, 03:03 PM
Hmmmm. Well let me see......

Nell
Mountain Mama
Amazon
WildWoman
Purrfukt
Marylp
Trappingal
Owl Girl
Machinegunmomma
Muckluck Maven
Lorna
Laughing Beetle
Cabin Girl
Lady Trapper
Amy Headrick
Buttercup

Notice any patterns yet? Oh yeah, the rest of ya'll can come along too.

trax
05-24-2009, 03:18 PM
Nell, the rest of you can go find your own river (nothing personal)

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 03:58 PM
Hmmmm. Well let me see......

Nell
Mountain Mama
Amazon
WildWoman
Purrfukt
Marylp
Trappingal
Owl Girl
Machinegunmomma
Muckluck Maven
Lorna
Laughing Beetle
Cabin Girl
Lady Trapper
Amy Headrick
Buttercup

Notice any patterns yet? Oh yeah, the rest of ya'll can come along too.Looks more like a party!:sneaky2:

crashdive123
05-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Looks more like a party!:sneaky2:

Some people enjoy the wilderness more than others. http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/emot97.gif (http://www.smileyshut.com)

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 04:23 PM
...Anyway...Pict.And here is something else we can agree on, I too, could learn a lot from him.:cool2:

FVR
05-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Funny how this question comes up about every 6 months. Yeh, it comes up under many different titles, but it is always the same question.

Never quite understood the actual meaning of the question and why it really matters.

In the real world, on any given day or situation, you most times don't have a choice. Step back out of your little square and honestly evaluate yourself.

Unfortunately, I like many play this little game, here on this board. But honestly, if you want to see who you would be compatable with, just look at your friends and how you work with those at work.

Honestly, are you a follower? are you a leader? do those at work respect you? do you you respect those you work with? if not, why? are you an alpha male who thinks he's always right? are you an alpha male who would rather guide and teach than lay down the law?

Do your friends and fellow workers respect you?

Honestly, are you really an alpha male or just play one on the computer?

Are you the one who constantly asks questions and needs pats on the back for your personal acceptance?


I wonder if there is a test like this? I wonder if there was, would you take it truthfully?


I wonder why I ask so da mn many questions sometimes and just don't go with the flow?

Swamprat1958
05-24-2009, 05:27 PM
Every so often we get the Louis L'Amour line: "One to ride the river with." So I got to wondering, who would you "ride" with? 1st just let me say that there are several on here that "claim" to know their stuff, but I don't trust "hornblowers" all that much as it might turn out that I would wind up trying to drown them in the river, much less "ride it" with them. So here's my picks for folks I would be okay in an extreme outdoor situation with:

Bruce Zed
Rick
Crash
Ken
Laughing Beetle
Robert Rodgers
Sgt Draino
Klkak
PGV Outdoors (even though I know he's left us.)
Gray Wolf
Beowulf(shot-up tush & all)
Wareagle
Doug1980
Swamprat
Chiye tanka
erunkis...
Smok
Rebel
Jason Montana
Pict
Nell
Trax.

So...?:cool2:

I think I should feel honored to be on Sarge's list. I think his choices are fine, but we are definitely going to need a bigger or better yet multiple boats. Being stuck in one boat with all our egos would drive anyone crazy::online2long:

crashdive123
05-24-2009, 05:48 PM
I wonder if there is a test like this? I wonder if there was, would you take it truthfully?


Yep there is - it's called life.

gryffynklm
05-24-2009, 06:04 PM
This reminds me of high school. The only difference is that the Cool Kids here actually have something to be cool about. I know were I'm at and know why My name hasn't come up, no pretending here.

The booger is that with in the close circle of friends I have, I'm one of the wilderness cool kids, thats just a bit scary.

I 'll just keep learning and practicing doing preparing.

Thanks for letting the freshmen hang around.

crashdive123
05-24-2009, 06:08 PM
I know were I'm at and know why My name hasn't come up, no pretending here.


What are you talking about? You're on my list.

Sarge47
05-24-2009, 06:10 PM
based on that post I've just added you to my list as well!:tongue_smilie:

mountain mama
05-24-2009, 06:53 PM
hey gryffynklm, at least you weren't chosen simply for the fact that you have boobs

gryffynklm
05-24-2009, 07:10 PM
:cool:

I decided not to make a list, the names already listed are names I recognize as those I have learned from on this forum. Not brown nosing just appreciative of a one stop forum that answers questions often with sources to backup thir info and continue my research.

gryffynklm
05-24-2009, 07:15 PM
hey gryffynklm, at least you weren't chosen simply for the fact that you have boobs

Well I am a bit over weight.

Oh! Did I say that out loud?

Well, I mean, ah, crap never mind, forget it.

Sarge47
05-25-2009, 01:23 PM
Amid some speculation as to underlying reasons why I might have started this thread I will state my motivation. 1st, I've read about every Louis L'Amor novel in existence & besides the line: "One to ride the river with", I also cling to this one: "I ride for the brand". That one speaks to loyalty, perhaps an "old-fashioned" concept, but one that speaks volumes to me! Given all the response I must confess probably the only realistic answers were those given by Pal, mcfd, & a few others. They look for the "trust" factor; someone they've been with in the outdoors & each knows the others strength, weaknesses, etc.. That being said I was curious to see how people would choose. I think Pict would get a strong vote for "best person chosen who nobody has ever really been with in the outdoors." Crash as the best "party-guy." FVR as the most thoughtful. I would pick both Ken & Smok as I,ve talked to Ken & we should have a good time, no matter what & if we were caught trespassing on private property I'd at least have a Lawyer present! :innocent: As for Smok, anybody who's received some of his "hand-tied flys" knows what he's capable of. There are personality types I would try to avoid, but my list is pretty accurate as I also count on what I know so I wouldn't be too worried.:cool2:

mountain mama
05-25-2009, 01:31 PM
I personally would rather have someone with RL experience, like HopeAK (although I may need to bring along an outhouse door). And I would probably want to bring Remy along too. Need someone for a good debate and he never hesitates to speak his mind.

RobertRogers
05-25-2009, 01:39 PM
I'm honored to be on your list. A bunch of guys like this would be able to surmount just about any survival scenario, as long as they work well together!

crashdive123
05-25-2009, 01:43 PM
In all seriousness now, there are very few on here that I would not spend a weekend camping with. The different personalities that I have encountered may certainly make things interesting. To trek further than that or be isolated longer (with a few exceptions), well we'd at least have to spend that weekend camping first, and possibly longer. Some of those exceptions would be those that do, and have guided people into the wilderness. Not gonna mention names because I know I'll leave somebody off, and that is not my intent. I figure if I would pay those individuals to guide me into the wilderness and keep me safe, well then having them along when I wasn't paying - that would just be a bonus. Now whether or not they would want to head off with me....that's up to them.

gryffynklm
05-25-2009, 02:44 PM
In all seriousness now, there are very few on here that I would not spend a weekend camping with. The different personalities that I have encountered may certainly make things interesting. To trek further than that or be isolated longer (with a few exceptions), well we'd at least have to spend that weekend camping first, and possibly longer. Some of those exceptions would be those that do, and have guided people into the wilderness. Not gonna mention names because I know I'll leave somebody off, and that is not my intent. I figure if I would pay those individuals to guide me into the wilderness and keep me safe, well then having them along when I wasn't paying - that would just be a bonus. Now whether or not they would want to head off with me....that's up to them.

I totally agree.

Pict
05-25-2009, 05:07 PM
This board is good in that there aren't alot of stupid arguments. I've run across a few people in my travels around the internet that wouldn't even make good jerky. I would love to go to a get together and meet some of you.

If you wind up in a wilderness situation with people who don't know the wilderness it isn't the end of the world as long as they are teachable. I've learned the hard way that any more than four and things can get difficult. Mac

Ken
05-25-2009, 05:44 PM
I've learned the hard way that any more than four and things can get difficult. Mac

Yeah, but after a while even the difficult ones are usually ASKING you what you want them to do next.

Rick
05-25-2009, 06:58 PM
Actually, I can hang with any of you. If it works, great. If it doesn't work for me then I can say sit, stay, and be on my merry way. If it doesn't work for you...you can do the same. My skin is pretty thick so it wouldn't bother me in the least. That's how it works at work and with friendships and acquaintances in general. Some work, some don't. No harm no foul.

Aurelius95
05-27-2009, 09:39 PM
I have been a member on this forum for a year and a half. I have learned a lot from reading the posts, reading books that have been mentioned, etc. The most I have learned, however, is getting out there and practicing what was in the posts/books. I read a lot more than I post, so I feel I "know" you all more than you know me.

So, thank you all for your contributions, they have been very helpful. What I have found the most interesting, isn't necessarily our experiences in life, or the gear we have or don't have, but the philosophies we all exhibit in our writing. I guess we could be fooling each other (and probably are, to some extent, whether it is intentional or not), but I try to be honest in my responses, and hopefully that will reveal some of my character to you. There are many people on this forum with whom I would enjoy the opportunity of getting together one day around the campfire.

Cheers!

DOGMAN
05-27-2009, 09:57 PM
I believe I am now on my 16th year as a professional guide. During this tenure I've taken just about every type of personality type and physical ability level there is on some sort of Wilderness outing. So, I believe I can go down the river with just about anyone.

I have pretty much mastered Expedtion Behaviour, and so really I don't worry too much about what other people are doing...I just focus on what I am doing, then lead by example, or follow/listen to those who know more in particular situations.

When I am surrouned by idiots, I just keep in mind eventually the trip will end...so, I don't push my personal beliefs or personal agenda....I just endure their shortcomings to keep the trip fun. Its not my role to preach, parent, or pass-judgement. I just want everyone to stay safe and not endanger themselves, the group or me. As, long as they are playing safe I dont care how much of a wuss, liar, big shot, egomaniac, etc... they are. But, one thing I've noticed is when you call someone out who is endangering the group...there are always other group members that step-up and take your side.

Pict
05-28-2009, 08:49 AM
Jason,

My hat is off to you, dealing with the public at random is never easy. I have the luxury of telling people no, you're not ready for this. Most of the people that I take out are already in leadership positions in the churches I work with so I either know them personally or at least by reputation. I definitely have an agenda, these aren't paid customers seeking adventure and entertainment. My objective is to get them to pull together in difficult circumstances and overcome obstacles, improvise, adapt, overcome.

They learn wilderness survival but the main lessons of the experience get applied in the rest of life, planning, working together, taking the initiative, attitude control, dealing with set-backs, using limited resources in novel ways, giving 110% effort, the bush is a great classroom.

The after effects can be surprising. After the compass course I had one guy say, "Pastor Mac, I have no objective in life, I've been taking the path of least resistance but I have no goal I've been working towards." In the following months he got married and launched his career.

Another time, months after running the course, I was in a meeting that was going nowhere. I was just there as an adviser, it was their show. One of the guys who had taken the course, and never really been a leader before, spoke up. "Focus people, we need one objective, what are the stages we need to get to in order to reach that goal? What are the things we are going to need to reach each of those stages? What small thing can we do right now that will get us closer to it?" Compass navigation leaves an impression.

I think the best comment happened on the way back once. As you approach Belo Horizonte from the south you top a ridge of mountains and head down into the city. The view abruptly changes from rural/mountains to a city of 5.3 million people (The same population as Finland). It got real quiet in the car and Anderson spoke up, "We're headed into the jungle now."

Mac

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