Now Hear This!

[Sarge47]

Listen up all you Newbies, Numpties, & Bear Grylls/Les Stroud/Ray Mears/Tom Brown/Ron Hood/Cody Lundin wannabes! And this goes for those of you who DO know your crap also! During one of my phone conversations with our resident mouthpiece: Ken; he mentioned how he'd ordered this Mora knife from "Super-Mod Rick's" web-site http://www.safezonellc.com/mora746.html & how much he liked it. He went on & on, the only way lawyers can, & said that furthermore he was going to be ordering a lot more of them as they were the best knife for $14 (plus S.H) that he'd ever seen. He'd been putting it through some really tough trials (NOTE: not court cases.) I looked at the knife in question, told my wife about them & we ended up ordering 3 of them just a few days ago & they arrived today! I am officially declaring this the "Official Wolf-pack Survival Knife"! These knives are great! They sport a full-tang, rubberized grip for a non-slip grip, and sharp enough to fillet/clean a fish or dress out small game!
What they won't do is chop down a tree, but I use an axe for that anyway. Buy several of these & stash them in your BOB, Your Bill, what ever you call your survival bag. Give them as gifts to cherished family members, old friends, new friends, (forget the folks you don't like!) and be a hero!

As for all you people asking the same old question over & over again: "WHAT KIND OF SURVIVAL KNIFE SHOULD I BUY?" This is a top-notch one right here. If you want something a bit different check out the others he's got. Fast delivery & he takes care of his own! Just say: :I want the "Official Wolf-pack Survival Knife that Sarge recommends!" & you'll be in like flint. (Disclaimer for legal reasons) this is NOT a paid endorsement! As a
matter of fact, until Rick reads this post he has no idea I'm doing this! Go for it!:cool2:

[crashdive123]

Got my Mora from Safe Zone. I got the red wooden handled one. Love it.

[Ken]

Got my Mora from Safe Zone. I got the red wooden handled one. Love it.

Got my Mora from Safe Zone, too. I got the black handled one. Love it.

So THIS KNIFE, ladies and gents, earns the Quality Control Department Seal of Approval!

[Sarge47]

And those testimonials keep pouring in! My next item for purchase from "Safe-Zone" will be the "Blast-Match"! But I'm a little short on green right now, but that's on my "To Order" list!:cool2:

[crashdive123]

And those testimonials keep pouring in! My next item for purchase from "Safe-Zone" will be the "Blast-Match"! But I'm a little short on green right now, but that's on my "To Order" list!:cool2:

Picked that up as well. Works as advertised. The Quick Clot.....hope I never need it, but nice to have it.

[Ken]

He went on & on, the only way lawyers can....

Bad habit. YOU bill by the hour and see what happens. :innocent:

[Ken]

Your Order Was Successful!

Thank you for shopping at Safe Zone LLC

Date : 18 Apr 2009 - 12:13
Order ID : 927643
Payment by Card

Button Compass : 2 : 6.95
White Photon Light : 2 : 9.99
Howler Whistle : 2 : 2.95
Starflash Signal Mirror 3X5 : 1 : 11.95
Brass Wire : 2 : 3.49
Esbit Fuel Tab : 1 : 5.74
Katadyn MP1 30 Pak : 1 : 10.95
Spenco 2nd Skin : 1 : 5.99
Special Order Mora No. 746 : 1 : 14.00
Subtotal : 95.39
Shipping : 7.99
TOTAL : 103.38

Billing details:
Ken ............

Safe Zone LLC protects your privacy and security.

[Ken]

Most of my stuff has been "appropriated" by my honey or one of my/her kids.

But I still have the Mora....... :sneaky2:

[crashdive123]

Safe Zone LLC protects your privacyYeah, but you've got to work with them.

[Ken]

Live and learn. Next time, I'm gonna' wait until nobody's around when I open the box.

[Bugler]

I love my Frosts knife! Don't be misled by the low price--these are excellent tools.

[Rick]

Welcome Bugler. How about slicing your way over to the Introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Let it be known that I had nothing to do with any of this. The only thing I"ll say in my defense is that, despite what my posts might say in jest, I have a very high ethical and moral compass. That translates into everything I do. 'nough said.

[Ken]

Hey Sarge, can you fix the link in your first post?

[crashdive123]

I got it Ken - and I believed your posts.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

its hard to find the right thing like that isnt it. my knives are getting old now.
my camillus "savage" is getting obvious wear spots on the blade.

my buck w/full tang and rubber pommel cost me 80"bucks" and it dosent hold an edge too well(stainless)

so i may try one of the 14 dollar ones.

[Sarge47]

The reason that I'm calling this "The Official Wolf-Pack Survival Knife" is because of the following:

1.) It's long on quality & short on cost. While some of the members on here can afford to pay out $50 to $100 for a big 'ole "elephant gutting/Crocodile Dundee " knife there are many young members, or folks with tight budgets who can't. Therefore this knife is the best place to start. Besides, if you lose it you're not out all that much as opposed to that $85 blade you're wearing right now.

2.) The blade will hold up to anything that it's designed to handle. It's NOT designed for prying, chopping, or cutting through heavy bones, but then, most knives should never be used for those purposes anyway. Use a pry bar or axe for those jobs. The right tool for the job is always the best policy.

3.) The Mora 746 has a nice rubberized grip which prevents it from slipping from a wet, slick hand.

4.) It's light weight makes it ideal for packing or wearing in the field. My wife suffers from an illness that affects her grip & she can't hold onto anything very heavy, this is perfect!

5.) We get a lot of "newbies" that are clueless about what kind of a "Survival Knife" they should buy. One of the 1st thing that catches their eye is one of those "hollow-handled Rambo jobs" that run $15 to $20. For the same price they can get one of these & be a lot better off.

6.) The Mora knife comes highly recommended by Cody Lundin in both his book: "98.6 Degrees: The Art Of Keeping Your A$$ Alive!" & his survival school. He also sells the Mora from his website.

So there you have it folks. Don't have a good knife, short on green & not sure what to get, or even if you have a bunch of more expensive ones in your collection, this baby belongs on your belt!:cool2:

[Sarge47]

I need to also say this: Every time the question comes up about which knife to buy, 50 members give 50 different opinions. This has to be confusing to the person who asked the question. Having one knife to focus on should end that problem.:cool2:

[Ken]

Make sure you check out ALL of the Moras. There are dozens of designs to choose from. There are also a variety of sheaths available, including leather sheaths.

[Rick]

Remy - You've obviously never owned a Mora. Nothing you said is true. I have a 780 that I carry and use it every day. It holds a great edge and it does everything I ask it to. By the way, there is a difference between cheap and inexpensive. They are inexpensive but they certainly are not cheap.

[grundle]

Bear Grylls is the best!! He loves Mora knives for survival!!!

[Rick]

Of course I read what you write. That's why I responded the way I did. What I do or do not sell has nothing to do with my opinion.

"Still not a great survival knife though."

I realize it's a matter of opinion but I would bet my life on one just as quick as any other knife.

"They are fragile, and the range of jobs they can do is you have to admit pretty limited compare to my RAT 7 for example."

They aren't fragile. They are working knives. Tools. Are they the same caliber as a RAT 7? Of course not. But then they don't cost nearly as much either.

"I have mine for trade and barter, and in the truck just in case...but for survival situations, in my case more likely urban, a Mora is like a child's toy."

Okay, if you say so.


"My RAT will break car windows, chew metal, take down small trees and still keep a cutting edge...the Mora could never do any of that."

Of course it will break car windows. Care to volunteer yours for a test?

I would never chew through metal with any knife and as far as small trees. I can baton stuff. I guess it depends on your definition of small tree. Can the RAT 7 eat bigger trees? Sure.

"It's cheap."

As I said, it's inexpensive. Not cheap. Good metal, well made, Nice edge out of the box.

"But you can also use a kitchen knife to do what the Mora would do."

That you would have to prove.

"Further more...sending "newbies", "numpties" and "wannabes" in the wild with a Mora as their primary survival tool is down right dangerous !!!"

Sending them out there with any sharp is dangerous. They are numpties.

"The knife, being your primary survival tool, can't be cheap."

If you truly believe that then you would buy the Bear Gryllis knive. It's very expensive so it must be great for a primary survival tool.

"I would rely on a stone knife any-day before i would rely on a Mora for my survival."

Yeah, sure you would.

"If you had to go survive somewhere for an indefinite amount of time...and you could choose the knife you would bring with you...would you seriously take a Mora"

Yeah, I do.

[Ken]

Do you guys even read what i write ?

Remy, it's kinda' hard to refer back to your posts, because you keep deleting them once a thread becomes dormant.

[Ken]

"Of course it will break car windows. Care to volunteer yours for a test?"

Sure...care to volunteer your Mora ?

Me! Me, me, me! Pick me! :)

[Sarge47]

Me! Me, me, me! Pick me! :)I'll volunteer MY mora if Remy will volunteer HIS car!:innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

[crashdive123]

I cannot speak to any Mora other than the red handled S1 (and I am only a recent owner of that one). So far it has done everything I have asked it to. Good for fine detail work. Used it for pruning smaller branches from my Maple trees. I have several knives, and would not hesitate to carry this one with me anywhere. If it was my only knife, I would be quite comfortable with it.

[Sarge47]

(Deep sigh) It doesn't do me any good to put Remy on my ignore list when you guys keep quoting him, & since it's obvious that he's got his panties in a wedgie over some things just let me respond to several points he's raised.

Q.) Would you go out into the wilds with just the Mora?
A.) Cody Lundin does & it's the only knife he uses. That's good enough for
me; however, I always carry more than one knife.

Q.) I can chop down bigger trees with my RAT 7!
A.) I can chop down bigger trees than your RAT 7 with my axe, so there!

Q.) How can you designate the Mora as the "Official Wolf-Pack Survival
Knife" without the Wolf-Pack voting on it?
A.) Because I can! Anyway, who said you were a member of the Wolf-Pack? Vol-West was, but he left!:sneaky2:

Okay, brain-buster for the day; what clues that may reveal how genuine Remy is can be discerned from the books in the photo just to the left of the knife photo he posted? Check it out!:sneaky2:

[Ken]

Actually, in the 1690's, in Salem, Massachusetts, male "witches" were not called "witches," they were called "wizards." :innocent:

http://www.salemwitchmuseum.com/

[grundle]

I thought the presence of books would be a point in your favor...at least that is how it seemed to me.

[Ken]

Aaaaaaaaaand, if you go to Salem, you GOTTA' stop in at the Salem Beer Works! The pumpkin beer comes out in the Fall - just in time for all the Halloween tourists. :bat: The beer is great!

http://www.beerworks.net/html/locations_salem.html

[Sarge47]

So because i have an opinion that differs from yours i have "my panties in a wedgie" ?
lolll That's silly.




What on earth are you suggesting now?
So...because i have survival books i am not "genuine" ?

Is this a witch hunt ?No, not because of your opinion. & not because you read the books. Now genius, figure it out!:cool2:

[doug1980]

How could i pretend figuring out the emanations of a messy closet.
Piles of this here, mounds of that there.

Incoherent waves of ideas at best.

What does that even mean.

[grundle]

Anyway...so...am i the only one that thinks that Mora knives are not that great ?

I have never had one, so I can't really comment. (but I did anyways didn't I?)

[doug1980]

loll

You are not going to start again on this thread are you ?

What I can't ask a question? What did that babble mean or have anything to do with knives.

I think I might buy one of these they sound good to have around.

[Sarge47]

Anyway...so...am i the only one that thinks that Mora knives are not that great ?
That's not the point, Cody Ludin DOES, & his opinion trumps yours! :innocent:

[Rick]

Remy - I just expressed a different view than yours. I didn't say yours was invalid only that I didn't find truth in it. Que sura.

Native Dude uses an S1 where he lives and I think Mac mentioned he uses a 780 in Brazil, although he appears to have an arsenal of sharps. I happened to respect those guys and I'm sure they put themselves in harms way, just living, far more often than I do.

In the end, if you don't trust it for survival then by all means don't use it. I'm comfortable with mine and don't have any reservations with it.

[Sarge47]

The original point was that some new members that are looking for a good quality knife but don't have the "long green" that a RAT 7 or K-Bar would cost should seriously consider getting this knife. I love my Mora, but I ain't gettin' rid of "Bull"!:cool2:

[rebel]

Does it matter which mora we get?

[Sarge47]

Does it matter which mora we get?No, it doesn't even matter if you get one at all, it's just a very good knife at a low cost, & for some that can be a blessing!:cool2:

[tonester]

Anyway...so...am i the only one that thinks that Mora knives are not that great ?

i own three. i do think they are great knives for the money, but they are limited. if i had a choice between my mora or any other knife i own i would not choose my mora. if you can save like 30 or 40 more bucks you can get a way better knife like a kabar or anything from ontario knife co. but if you cant afford it then go with a mora.

[Sarge47]

i own three. i do think they are great knives for the money, but they are limited. if i had a choice between my mora or any other knife i own i would not choose my mora. if you can save like 30 or 40 more bucks you can get a way better knife like a kabar or anything from ontario knife co. but if you cant afford it then go with a mora.You got it! That's my whole point! However you bring up another interesting thought; you say you own 3 Moras plus other knives. So you obviously think the more expensive knives are better, why the 3 Moras? Just curious.:cool2:

[Beo]

I'm with Remy here, what makes the Moria the official knife of the pack?
Personally I like mine, I also like the K-bar, and a few others. A knife is tool nothing more in my opinion.

[mcfd45]

I myself am kinda biased towards either a swiss army knife or a leatherman.

[Pict]

I don't really care if the Mora is the "official knife" of anything but I will say if you haven't tried them for whatever reason you really need to stop it right now and pick one up.

Hands down they are the most bang for the buck in the knife world. A few years ago I mentioned to some friends in Sweden that I can't buy Mora's in Brazil. A few weeks later a package showed up with two of the rubber handled knives, two red handled #1's, a Craftsman, and a Mora 2000. I already had a clipper, several of the green handled Swedish Army knives, and a wood handled #1. Other friends donated several more of the green handled Moras.

Since I have five of them I made them the official knife of my course. I set them up with a BSA Hotspark on the wrist lanyard, paired with a 16 inch Tramontina machete they handle everything we need to do in the bush. They have since become worn from use and I sold them to former students.

A while back I bought a 780 Triflex Craftsman for T&E and like it very much. I really prefer the carbon blades over the stainless, IMO they take a much sharper edge. I need to pick up five of these before I head back to Brazil.

You have spent $10-$15 on stupid stuff that you have long forgotten, pick up a Mora and you will not be sorry. Mac

[Badawg]

Here's my entry into the fray on what a good knife a Mora is. Mind you I don't own a true Swedish Mora, but have a box full of these early '90s Czech Mikov knives that I company I worked for had imported and they are very durable. No Idea what kind of stainless was used in them, but it's tough, resilient and holds an edge well. I had something like 24 of them at one point, as well as a bunch of stag, bone, and wood handled folders, A "Czech Paratroop knife", and some nice Stag hunters.

These little utilities are scattered throughout my kit, tool boxes, and vehicles and I gave or sold a few of them too and nobody has ever complained about them. I have used them in the garden pruning and cutting roots, Laying sod, have cut carpet, thin Metal, rope, cardboard with many of them for years, and have not ruined one yet. And the 2 piece sheath is nice as you can pull the frog off and stick the blade in your pocket.

The story behind these was that Mikov made them for the Finnish Military and there were "extras".

B

[Sarge47]

I myself am kinda biased towards either a swiss army knife or a leatherman.Why one or the other? Why not both PLUS a Mora? :cool2:

[Sarge47]

I'm with Remy here, what makes the Moria the official knife of the pack?
Personally I like mine, I also like the K-bar, and a few others. A knife is tool nothing more in my opinion.Here's the thing, I wasn't implying everybody has to have one, just that it can be the "Designated Wolf-Pack Survival Knife" any time we get a Newby on here that only has a few bucks to spend on a blade & they're actually thinking of getting one of those "hollow-handle" P.O.S.! Here's another reason, all you '"strong, He-Man types" who have no trouble at all swinging a hefty blade might want to think about this: My wife ordered 3 of these knives as a nice surprise for me & my son, but there was another reason also. You see, even though she's 10 years younger than me, she suffers from various medical problems including a severe form of Arthritis called Fibre-Myalga. That means she can't hold onto, much less use, a Ka-Bar, Rat-7, or any other"heavy" knife we might like to use. However handling the Mora was so easy she was estatic.(Yes , my wife is also a "Survivor-type".) Add to that the fact that many of the posters questioning about the knives are often in their early teens I figured that, for the cost & quality, the Mora was the best one to recommend. Cody Lundin recommends one in his book, & until recetly, used to sell them from his web-site. Mors Kochanski STILL recommends them, check out his book: "Bushcraft"! Tell you what, I'm going to start another thread for all of you to suggest your idea for an "Official Knife". I'll also list the criteria that they have to meet so lets see if you folks will "step up" or not! To be continued...:cool2:

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