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Lorna
04-29-2009, 10:51 PM
I was just wondering if anyone had bought antibotics from the local feed store to have on hand in case of an emergency. I read an article on how you could use the same antibotics as people use on their animals for a lot less than you could purchase from a local pharmacy. Was curious if anyone had done this and if so how it had worked out. Thank you for your input.:)
Sourdough
04-29-2009, 11:31 PM
Nell will know if anyone will, There is antibiotics in the chick feed, for my gosling's. I have never seen antibiotics in the feed store for sale here, the vet will write a prescription.
SARKY
04-30-2009, 01:36 AM
My cousin was a farier (Blacksmith) and he would use vet grade antibiotics all the time with no apparent ill effects.
LostOutrider
04-30-2009, 06:00 AM
My cousin was a farier (Blacksmith) and he would use vet grade antibiotics all the time with no apparent ill effects.
Of course, to make change from anything bigger than a one he'd have to tuck his head in and stomp one foot on the ground. But, really, that was a beneficial side-effect. 'least now he can count.
Ultimate Survivor
04-30-2009, 06:00 AM
i know of one person that uses fish antibiotics without any side effects i would use in an emergency.
mind you his swimming has improved a lot !:tongue_smilie:
and i also have used human antibiotics on animals in much smaller doses
We had a similar thread on this a while back. I asked Adventure Doc the same question and his response was stay away from them. You can look up Med.s ??? Penicillin ?? if you wish but that's all he had to say on it.
I wouldn't use it unless it was the only option available. Some of anything is better than a whole lot of nothing I guess. I have no idea if it's the same chemical, the same purity, etc. etc. Horse and fish (and most animals) physiology is much different than human so you have no idea whether the med is having any affect until you either get sicker or better. Not a risk I'd be willing to take on a day to day basis.
nell67
04-30-2009, 07:28 AM
You can buy antibiotics at the feed store for much less than by RX,I have never used them on myself,or the family,but it is penicillin,so I would think that it would be safe for those who are not allergic to that type of antibiotic in a pinch,anything other than penicillin in my area is RX only.
Hope,we sell the medicated chick starter as well,but are instructed to NOT give that to the water fowl babies because of the medication,and to deter customers from purchasing it for the ducks and goslings as well,to get that point across,the company will replace baby birds lost within the first week of purchase,but only if they have purchased the "corrrect" feed for the type they bought....chick sarter for the chickens,and game bird starter (it's unmedicated) for the ducks,goslings,turkeys,etc.
The turkey babies are $6.79 each,and goslings are $12.89 so it's not difficult to get them the to purchase the more expensive feed...
Just an add on to my previous post. You can't just take penicillin and clear up what ever infection you might have.
First, viruses and fungi don't respond to antibiotics. Antibiotics only work on bacteria and are either bactericidal, meaning they kill the bacteria or bacteriostatic, meaning they stop the bacteria from mutiplying.
Second, the antibiotic has to be targeted for the specific infection. Some antibiotics are ineffective against certain bacteria. Some antibiotics work on aerobic bacteria while others work on anaerobic bacteria (bacteria that need oxygen and those that don't).
You can certainly use a broad spectrum antibiotic in hopes that it will stop the bacteria or slow it down enough so your body can finish off the job. However, you also stand the risk of the bacteria becoming resistant to the antibiotic leaving you in worse shape than when you started.
And remember that most upper respiratory infections and the common cold are caused by viruses so antibiotics are not appropriate to treat those illnesses. Overuse is as bad as misuse when it comes to antibiotics.
....and fish (and most animals) physiology is much different than human so you have no idea whether the med is having any affect .....
Or the wrong effect........
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Nell will know if anyone will, There is antibiotics in the chick feed, for my gosling's. I have never seen antibiotics in the feed store for sale here, the vet will write a prescription.
most of those antibiotics for animals you can get at the feed store,over the counter, you just have to ask.(knowing what you need helps). i havent used them on me,but the topical antifungal salves i have used they work on man and beast. internal medicaments, i would be very careful about useing, dont forget those 21 horses that died after taking an alternet med that was supposed to do the same job.
nell67
04-30-2009, 08:03 AM
Absolutely Rick,there are many different types of human antibiotics,penicillin types being one,but they do not kill every bacteria out there,so taking what you can buy at Orschelns or Tractor Supply may put you at greater risk than spending the $$$ to get the blood work done to find the right meds you need.
Bacteria mutate just like viruses,so what worked for you before,may not work the next time,and using your animals meds could end up hurting you.
nell67
04-30-2009, 08:10 AM
One thing I have seen where I work,is elderly people come in and buy pain relieving ointments for their joint pains, most are labled for animal use only as well.I do believe they may be one step away from using the antibiotics we carry if they think they need them.If they come in asking for penicillin,I would have to ask their intended use for it.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 08:17 AM
the feed store that i go to wants to know who you are also, they dont like passing out antibiotics to non- regular customers. they usualy ask for more information. and they may even call your vet.
nell67
04-30-2009, 08:27 AM
Unfortunately,that is not a requirement here,anyone can walk in and purchase it.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 08:36 AM
there was a guy in orlando area that was using Spotton to treat a skin condition on his kids! you gotta watch em!
Alpine_Sapper
04-30-2009, 09:01 AM
I get animal meds at the feed store to avoid paying vet's prices. I'd use the antibiotics on myself or one of my family, with all the precautions listed above duly noted, if it were a real true TEOTWAWKI situation or I had no other choice. I mean, if it's death or questionable meds that may cure you or result in death, I think I'm gonna give it a shot. That is ONLY if I can't find a non-looted pharmacy or a doctor that can lay hands on the right meds. While I would prefer to go about it the right way, there are always going to be situations that call for extreme measures. That being said, I wouldn't stock them unless I was using them on my animals. Otherwise it's a waste of money since they do expire. You'd be better off learning to make your own penicillin and how to dose it.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 09:09 AM
eat moldy bread or a moldy orange skin, those molds are pennicillus strains. orange mold will ferment the juice, indian hooch.yum.
Lorna
04-30-2009, 09:38 AM
Thanks everyone for your feed back. It is greatly appreciated.
tacmedic
04-30-2009, 10:17 AM
While many of the meds at the feed stores are made in the same factories as meds that are made for humans they may not be as effective. As Rick already said, one antibiotic doesn't cure everything. At my local feed store about the only antibiotic they carry is pennicillin, it is about worthless for human use anymore. It doesn't really treat any infection that affects humans. The only thing we still give it for is dental abcesses and STD's.
Alpine_Sapper
04-30-2009, 10:22 AM
only thing we still give it for is dental abcesses and STD's.
Well, ok, so it definitely has it's uses. Get shot up with horse penicillin or die of syphillis or live with the clap....hmm...Guess which one I'm gonna do?
I give up, which? Maybe not get the STD? But I'm just guessing here.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 12:05 PM
i'm getting out me frank zappa cd's!
erunkiswldrnssurvival
04-30-2009, 12:09 PM
Joe Biden said it right this morning.
crashdive123
04-30-2009, 12:11 PM
What? That we shouldn't fly or take mass transit? Oh yeah - let's instill fear and panic...good idea.
Alpine_Sapper
04-30-2009, 12:13 PM
I give up, which? Maybe not get the STD? But I'm just guessing here.
lol. Hey, **** happens, right?
"Sgt. I gotta go to the troop clinic."
"What for, private?"
"uhh...well, ya see..."
"Sgt, I gotta go too."
"For WHAT?"
"Same as Jonesie..."
"Oh. I see. Anybody else gotta go?"
And as the whole squad raises their hand the E6 in charge could only shake his head and laugh, utter a "You mother****ers" under his breath and dismiss them all to go get a shot.
Lorna
04-30-2009, 09:57 PM
Okay, so the feed store is pretty much out. I wonder if you could get any from a vet for a better price.
What's the difference between getting it from a feed store or a vet? You are still faced with the same problems. Namely, they might not work.
Lorna
04-30-2009, 11:58 PM
That's true Rick, I was just thinking you'd have a better chance for more variety thru a vet. Possibility of them not working still poses a problem.
crashdive123
05-01-2009, 12:02 AM
In addition to it may not work (don't know if it will or won't), it may be cheaper through a prescription and going through your regular pharmacy rather than through the vet. The dog I lost two years ago went through chemo, and several of the meds were cheaper buying from a regular pharmacy. Vet still wrote the scrip though.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
05-01-2009, 09:00 AM
What? That we shouldn't fly or take mass transit? Oh yeah - let's instill fear and panic...good idea.
that was a wise choice that he made "the vioce caring and intelligence" people fear things that they cant control. some body may have taught mr Biden something that we are unaware of. ignoring a problem or to down play its signifigance dont make it go away. of the 91 people effected in america. 7 of those will die. the current death rate for the swine flu is just under 10%. instead of fearing that , Mr Biden suggested a course of action to begin a method of protection. people fear not having that.
Alpine_Sapper
05-01-2009, 09:03 AM
of the 91 people effected in america. 7 of those will die.
We are not Mexico. I don't think we'll have the same mortality rate.
erunkiswldrnssurvival
05-01-2009, 09:07 AM
there is not really anything to suggest that we dont (only time and those effected) i hope that you are correct alpine sapper. i hope every one of them recover, (america lost an infant already)
mountain mama
05-01-2009, 09:53 AM
Actually, America has had no fatalities as of yet. The "infant" was actually a 23 mo. old child here from Mexico.
crashdive123
05-01-2009, 11:17 AM
that was a wise choice that he made "the vioce caring and intelligence" people fear things that they cant control. some body may have taught mr Biden something that we are unaware of. ignoring a problem or to down play its signifigance dont make it go away. of the 91 people effected in america. 7 of those will die. the current death rate for the swine flu is just under 10%. instead of fearing that , Mr Biden suggested a course of action to begin a method of protection. people fear not having that.
I disagree with the majority of what you said here. If you want to panic, then panic. If you want to take common sense steps to prevent getting ill, then do so, but for a public official to recommend no flying, no mass transit and no public gatherings (like school) is irresponssible. It is that sort of stuff that will create fear and panic. As far as your prediction on the number of deaths...not sure how you have come up with that, but the latest CONFIRMED statistics are .04% deaths. That's not to say those numbers won't change, but so far - world wide only ten deaths CONFIRMED from this strain of flu. How many people died in the last week in automobile accidents, from cancer, from aids, from drowning in a swimming pool?
Alpine_Sapper
05-01-2009, 11:19 AM
I disagree with the majority of what you said here. If you want to panic, then panic. If you want to take common sense steps to prevent getting ill, then do so, but for a public official to recommend no flying, no mass transit and no public gatherings (like school) is irresponssible. It is that sort of stuff that will create fear and panic. As far as your prediction on the number of deaths...not sure how you have come up with that, but the latest CONFIRMED statistics are .04% deaths. That's not to say those numbers won't change, but so far - world wide only ten deaths CONFIRMED from this strain of flu. How many people died in the last week in automobile accidents, from cancer, from aids, from drowning in a swimming pool?
Best quote I've seen;
"Soooo, do we have a pandemic or a damn panic?"
Lorna
05-01-2009, 08:42 PM
I'l bring the Tequila, it'll kill anything.
laughingbeetle
05-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Amen sister!!
mountain mama
05-01-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm hangin' with them ^^^^
Lorna
05-02-2009, 01:55 PM
The more the merrier. We've got tequila, how about I make homemade nachos to go with that?:chef:
crashdive123
05-02-2009, 03:01 PM
OK, you three talked me into it.
nell67
05-02-2009, 10:19 PM
No way Crash,sounds like it's girls night out.....sorry Charlie!
crashdive123
05-02-2009, 11:07 PM
No way Crash,sounds like it's girls night out.....sorry Charlie!
Even if I wore my yellow dress?
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mountain mama
05-02-2009, 11:25 PM
I dunno, nell, maybe if we plucked his eyebrows, shaved his legs, gave him a bikini wax and a makeover.....that could be fun!
crashdive123
05-02-2009, 11:37 PM
I dunno, nell, maybe if we plucked his eyebrows, shaved his legs, gave him a bikini wax and a makeover.....that could be fun!
Better bring some more tequila.
Lorna
05-03-2009, 12:38 AM
Better bring more wax :clap:
crashdive123
05-03-2009, 07:06 AM
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nell67
05-03-2009, 08:14 AM
Alright girls.you win,LOL Crash,it sounds like a party,and you're the guest of honour......muahahahahaha!
Alpine_Sapper
05-03-2009, 08:38 AM
can we get an audio recording of the bikini wax? I need a new screams tape for the haunted house this halloween...
Audio is fine. NO VIDEO OR PICS PLEASE!
crashdive123
05-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Hope I didn't let my alligator mouth overload my hummingbird a$$.
But it'll be smooth.:eek:
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