What do you have for barter?

[tennecedar]

Does anyone have a specific list of items they keep extra of just for barter?
Silver? Food? Ammo? Wool blankets?
Any suggestions for any of us that always cruising yard sales and flee markets?

[Ken]

Does the ex-wife count here? :innocent:

[crashdive123]

I don't keep a list, or for that matter stock up on things for that specific purpose. It would really depend on what was needed or what somebody else finds valuable. Booze? Ammunition? Rice? Gasoline? Maybe your skill to build or fix something? Vanillar Creamer? Just depends on what is in short supply and needed.

[Sourdough]

Does the ex-wife count here? :innocent:

I'll take her...and give ya.....5 Geese and two turkeys, (I really want to get rid of the poultry, but don't want to kill them). Guessing You felt that way about the Ex at some point, so you know how I feel. The poultry is pretty much useless to me, hoping you Ex is good for something.....:innocent::innocent::innocent:

[Ken]

I'll take her...and give ya.....5 Geese and two turkeys, (I really want to get rid of the poultry, but don't want to kill them). Guessing You felt that way about the Ex at some point, so you know how I feel. The poultry is pretty much useless to me, hoping you Ex is good for something.....:innocent::innocent::innocent:

I can't do it. I can't take advantage of a friend like that. The poultry are far more useful. This illustrates the personality changes my ex went through: :bat: Besides, Alaska is still too close to me. And you wouldn't make me your Attorney General. However, I'd barter her to some alien from Pluto - if I didn't like the guy. :innocent:

[Ken]

Just a joke...nice and easy...

Maybe, her "personality change" came about when she realized what being married to you meant ?

Guys can be so...clueless.

Remy, what do you have to trade for my ex-wife? How about one of those matches?

[tennecedar]

OK maybe i'm the only one that does. I personally look for deals on ammo at the end of hunting season. In common calibers i may not even own. Someone will want/need them at some point. I kept a roll of tyvek from a house building job. i've traded pieces of that for things i need. More than paid for the roll and still have half of it left. I'm currently buying old traps to put up at the barn for a rainy day. Any other REAL suggestions would be a great help.

[endurance]

Seeds of all varieties.

[crashdive123]

Think about what would be of value for whatever scenario you envision. Storm related - having an extra generator may be of great value. Ammunition and firearms are always of value to somebody. The things that you would, and do stock up on for an emergency will be of value - buy more.

[canid]

the problem with yard sales, and thrift stores as well for that matter, the the nature of items. they are almost invariably the surplus of common domestic items [in often dubious condition] of which there are too many in the first place, and with which the average home is already equipped.

from this perspective, i would say that the values that last are often in the items that don't. anything storage stable, but consumable/disposable will always be in demand.

[tennecedar]

That's the way i felt too, once. In 1993 our house burned. My mom got us into a shelter house a church ran. A week there then into a rent house. We lost everything. My mom had to get a skillet from her sister to cook supper for us. I wore clothes given to me by a stranger. When a person/family/neighborhood gets displaced, those wore out items are life savers.

[canid]

yes, but there where and are plenty of them.

their lack of value holding ability, in economic terms is reflected by the enourmous discrepancy in new -vs- used pricing.

e.g. a new pair of slacks ranges from $20 upward.
a new teflon skillet of decent quality will often set you back $30.

either of these items can generally be found in a thrift store or a rummage sale for under $5, and often without respect to what condition they are actually in.

this is not to imply that those items are without value, or use, most of my posessions come from such sources, but that the more ubiquitous and durable they are, the less they will be in demand at any given time.

point: after a serious disruption in the supply of consumer goods as might follow a national or regional emergency; you will probably get more value out of a trade for a case of baby diapers than a matched set of mass produced flatware made in china by the millions, and with no shortage in supply.

[canid]

a further parallel: if you lived in coastal florida, and a hurricane has caused widespread flooding which has forced all the local supermarkets to close their doors, do you want to be one of the 5 guys standing on the same corner selling oranges, or perhaps the one guy with mangoes?

[Ken]

I hate to say this, but in a true barter situation you're probably going to be best off if you have liquor, cigarettes, and any possible drug or medication now on the market - legal and illegal - to trade.

[DOGMAN]

dogs, horses, chickens, homegrown veggies, water, manual labor, meat

[Ken]

.....manual labor

:idea: You mean, like, studding yourself out?

[crashdive123]

We often talk about bartering after some sort of SHTF scenario, but really there is no reason to wait. Google "how to barter" and you get millions of returns. Some people do it every day. Here's an interesting article http://www.motherearthnews.com/Nature-Community/1993-02-01/How-To-Barter-For-Everything.aspx on barter.

[canid]

i used to go to Okanogan county barter fair up in NE Washington. thousands upon thousands turn out for it every year.

they get regulars out from Portland, Seattle, etc. it's surprising how far people will go for such a simple thing.

[DOGMAN]

:idea: You mean, like, studding yourself out?

thats right. I provide services...umm...if the price is right

[Rick]

Well (he asked coming his hair) just, um, what are we talking about?

[canid]

it's alright rick, it's just a little plumbing work...

[Rick]

This is an interesting thread. Let me tie this into a thread we had a couple of months ago about stealing to survive. Just about everyone said sure the would.

So now you barter one of your wool blankets or five cans of veggies or whatever and that guy tells another then another and the next thing you know everyone in the area knows you have blankets or veggies or whatever. It might have been the last ones you had but they don't know that. So, one evening, they come knocking. Yeah, I know, you have all this fire power. Trouble is they did to. Only they had a scope on theirs. Your family will mourn your passing.

I don't stockpile to trade with anyone. That's not my primary concern. I'll trade my skills but not my supplies. I'd just as soon no one know what I have.

I used to just be paranoid but now I'm paranoid that I'm not paranoid enough.

[Ken]

:blink: Forget what I said about liquor, cigarettes, and drugs. :whistling:

[Ken]

I'll trade my skills but not my supplies. I'd just as soon no one know what I have.

Hey, Twinkie Man! If you've got skills, you're hiding them real well, too.:innocent:

[Ken]

Rick, let me help you here:

Rick: "Where is that BAN BUTTON?":tongue_smilie:

[canid]

hahaha.

now this is getting funny.

[tennecedar]

I never really think about a global or even nation wide event that would cause the every man for himself situation. In my itty bitty mind the most i really plan for is a regional problem. Federal disasters are declared every year in every corner of the nation.
My planning is to stay put if I can. Helping all I can. If I'm displaced I'll grab what I can and bug out. The bartering would be helpful during the going back home and rebuilding/salvaging phase.

[Rick]

There's hardly a week goes by that a disaster isn't declared somewhere.

http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters.fema

[wareagle69]

That's the way i felt too, once. In 1993 our house burned. My mom got us into a shelter house a church ran. A week there then into a rent house. We lost everything. My mom had to get a skillet from her sister to cook supper for us. I wore clothes given to me by a stranger. When a person/family/neighborhood gets displaced, those wore out items are life savers.

brad paisley fan eh?
think about what ever you use on a daily basis. now add to that, good point about a skillet, i find cast iron, even the cheap crap for very cheap at yard sales, i must have 15 skillets of varyiing sizes and pots.
what would you want from me if you came by my place in a desperate situation, i can use physical labor, tree cutting and splitting hauling manure and weeding and such which i will trade to you for a skillet and small amount of food-keeps me from overworking and being worn down and we both get something we want

[trax]

I don't stockpile to trade with anyone. That's not my primary concern. I'll trade my skills but not my supplies. I'd just as soon no one know what I have.


Well folks if TSHTF, we're all going to have to throw in and help out Rick...or he'll starve!

[endurance]

I think there's some sense in thinking about your regional needs. Having a generator, batteries, and flashlights to barter makes a lot of sense along the gulf coast. Having propane space heaters makes a lot of sense further north. Having an extra couple of propane tanks is always handy.

Personally, I liked the earlier suggestion regarding chickens. Most folks don't want to put the effort into setting up their own coop so they're happy to buy eggs off of you. If they don't mind the trouble, then sell them chicks. Heck, store a few rolls of chicken wire while you're at it to either barter or expand as demand for eggs increases. Obviously there's the risk of theft, but motion detector lights can go a long way toward reducing that risk.

[hoosierarcher]

I have stockpiled Altoid tin mini kits
ferro rods
small lockback folding knives
I make 2 or 3 mini kits a month
I buy ferro rods (just the rods) in bulk then I put one in a ziplok bag with a 3" piece of hacksaw blade and 6 tinder cup firestarters
Oh and I buy daypacks and other backpacks from Goodwill for 1.50 and wool blankets every chance I get, and put together maxi kits (partial) I don't know what I'll trade for but they will give people some basic help if TSHTF.

[Rick]

Just throw some mothballs in with those blankers or might not have any when you need them.

[Ken]

I got one bear to barter. He's fat, drunk, and old. A bit crazy, too. But he'd be good for skinning and making dog food. I won't accept anything less than a burnt matchstick. Here he is:

[SARKY]

So we are talking about 2 different barter scenarios, 1; everyday bartering and 2: Disaster bartering.
1: everyday, with people i know, ammo, magazines, skills, pretty much anything I have an excess of that someone else needs or wants.
2: Disaster, guns and ammo are a BIG NO! I don't want them used against me. liquior, chocolate, tobacco, food, TP, anything else I have extra of that could be traded.

[nell67]

I think there's some sense in thinking about your regional needs. Having a generator, batteries, and flashlights to barter makes a lot of sense along the gulf coast. Having propane space heaters makes a lot of sense further north. Having an extra couple of propane tanks is always handy.

Personally, I liked the earlier suggestion regarding chickens. Most folks don't want to put the effort into setting up their own coop so they're happy to buy eggs off of you. If they don't mind the trouble, then sell them chicks. Heck, store a few rolls of chicken wire while you're at it to either barter or expand as demand for eggs increases. Obviously there's the risk of theft, but motion detector lights can go a long way toward reducing that risk.
Absolutely, in my area,those who are willing to build new coops,are spending premium money for laying hens,upwards of $25 right now for a brown egg layer,much higher for the green and blue egg layers,I may have to pen my Aracauna's up for a while.
If you have the green/blue egg layers,the eggs are going for almost double the price of brown eggs.

[Ken]

Absolutely, in my area,those who are willing to build new coops,are spending premium money for laying hens,upwards of $25 right now for a brown egg layer,much higher for the green and blue egg layers,I may have to pen my Aracauna's up for a while.
If you have the green/blue egg layers,the eggs are going for almost double the price of brown eggs.

Wow. This chicken must be worth a fortune!

[Rick]

Blue and green eggs?

Well I'll swan. Never heard of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucana

[tennecedar]

Yeah they're great. The breeds originate from pre-Columbian Chili. I like the them when i can get them. As of right now we have brown leghorns that lay white eggs. The kids eat em better...

[RBB]

I'm trying to put TSHTF scenarios together with bartering - and coming up blank - for the most part. If it was an extremely long term (or permanent) scenario, maybe. Anything shorter term - you'd be quickly on your way to becoming the most unpopular person on the block - at least in Minnesota.

You'd be a lot better off keeping mum about your stash for quite a while.

And while I can't see myself stocking up on them, I think tobacco and alcohol might be pretty good barter items. Prescription drugs might be good too, but a little hard to get hold of, plus they have a shelf life.

[Rick]

This is not my own creation but something I found a while back on the net and have kept. I've deleted some links because they no longer work.

Any thing you know how to make that would be useful like black powder, drugs
and weapons

Books on herb uses.
Books on how to survive
Booze

Canning jars and lids
Cigarettes
Chickens, Rooster and eggs
Condoms.

Disposable/cloth diapers
Female hygiene products
Kaidangku

Harmonicas and other small easy to carry musical things.

Cheep knives

Pet supplies, wormers, flea killer, and food
Porn
Pure lead

Seed for growing food Grain seeds. Wheat, barley, oats, rye, sunflower and corn. Herb seeds Culinary and medicinal.

Services making candles, milling grain, sawing lumber, repairing tires, pilot, Ect.

Tools for growing food and making shelters

Your knowledge

Wrist rockets. Very cheap now. Very handy later.

The big thing with trading stock is to have things on hand that you can live without and other can not.




So lets look at the list so far and talk about what would and would not make the best trading stock.

Brewing yeast and beer/wine making supplies- If you traded off your Brewing yeast and then others will be able to make there own beer and wine. You would be better off to make the beer and wine and trade it.

Pet supplies, wormers, flea killer, and food.- Dogs and cats are live stock AKA FOOD

Bread yeast- see brewing yeast. It would be best to make the bread and trade it.

Honey- only if you can replace what you trade off. In other words you have bee hives.

Ammo- If trade ammo to others the you could run the risk some day it will be used to take what you have away from you. Trade to get ammo.

Antibiotics. Antibacterial ointment. First aid supplies.- This is something that you may not be able to replace. Only trade it off if the person has something tat you need and can not get an other way.

Condoms- may not be the best time to start a baby they also have other uses.

Herb seeds- Do not trade off the seeds trade off dried herbs that you have grown with the seed then you control the supply.

Grain seeds- Do not trade off the seeds. Make bread and other foods from it and trade it off.

Wrist rockets- How about making sling shots and using them for trade stock.
Salt- only if you can replace it or trade it only for things you can not get any other way.

Chickens & egg.- Trade off the eggs not the chickens. As the numbers of roster that you have starts to increase then you can trade the extras for things that you can not get any other way. But ONLY trade off the rosters that way you control the source of eggs.

Candles. Oil for lanterns. Wick. Wax- Only if you can replace what you are trading off.

Water purification tablets- See Candles

Bleach. Laundry soap.- See Candles
Shampoo.- See Candles

Cigarettes, Booze, drugs & porn- Are all addictive and you can use that addiction to your advantage. This is something none of us need and we cane live with out but there are some that would pass up food for a smoke.

Female hygiene products- there are substitutes for this product that other may not know about. Use there ignorance against them to get a higher price. You could also make reusable products them and trade them off in our disposable society a lot of people will not understand the concept of reusable at least not a first. Here is a link for you all to look at http://lunapads.com/

disposable diapers- You do not need disposable diapers for a baby for that matter you do need diapers at all. And here are some links to back up what I am saying, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eliminationcommunication/ Also see-Female hygiene products.

Cheep knives- I have been buying cheep snap off to sharpen knives for .33c each and putting them back. I do not see them as a weapon that can be used against me to get what I have.

Tools for growing food and making shelters- If you do not have a forge get or make one then you can make tools.

Seed for growing food- only trade off seeds for things that you can not get any other way. and never trade off grain seeds. You would be better off to trade off the food you grow then you would the seeds to grow it.

Pure lead- Pure lead dose not make very good bullets unless they are for muzzleloaders. Also see- Cheep knives

Your knowledge and Books on how to survive- If you can make paper you can write your own books to trade off. You could also teach classes for a price.

Any thing you know how to make that would be useful like black powder, weapons and tools- This is why you need a forge.

[Rick]

Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

Alternative energy specialist
Ammunition re-loader
Appliance repairman
Artist
Assayer
Baker
Banker
Barber
Basket maker
Bathhouse/shower room operator
Beekeeper
Bicycle Repairman
Biodiesel maker
Blackpowder maker
Blacksmith
Bookbinder
Botanist
Brew master
Brick maker
Bullet caster
Butcher/meat processor
Candle maker
Candy maker
Carpenter
Cartridge maker
Cartwright
Chandler
Charcoal burner
Cheese maker
Chemist
Chimney sweep
Cobbler/shoe maker
Comedian
Cook
Cooper (barrel maker)
Coppersmith
Dentist
Distiller, drinking alcohol
Distiller, fuel alcohol
Doctor
Dog trainer
Dye maker
Electrician
Electronics tech
Entertainer
Farmer
Farm hand
Farrier
Firewood purveyor
Fisherman
Food canner/processor
Furniture maker
Gardener
Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
Glass maker
Goatherd
Goldsmith/silversmith
Gravedigger
Gunpowder maker
Gunsmith/gun maker
Handyman
Harvester/picker
Heavy equipment operator
Herbalist/mineralist
Historian
Horse trainer/wrangler
Hunter/trapper
Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
Ink maker
Judge/arbitrator
Karaoke operator
Knife maker
Knife sharpener
Knitter/crocheter
Laundress/laundry room operator
Leather worker
Librarian
Logger/forester/sawyer
Lumber maker
Machinist
Maid
Massage therapist
Mechanic
Metal worker
Metallurgist
Midwife
Milk maid
Milk processor
Miller
Millwright
Miner
Mulcher/composter/manure collector
Musician
Net maker
Nurse
Optician (eyeglass maker)
Orchardman/arborist
Paper maker
Peace Officer
Pedi-cab driver
Pest control specialist
Pharmacist
Physicist
Plumber
Postman
Pottery maker
Primitive building specialist
Printer/newspaperman
Radio Operator
Rancher
Ranch hand
Repairman
Roofer
Rope/cordage maker
Sail maker
Sailor (Boatswain)
Salt maker
Salvage specialist
Scribe
Secretary
Security guard
Shake/shingle maker
Sheep sheerer
Shepherd
Shipwright/boat builder
Shoemaker
Skill At Arms instructor
Small engine mechanic
Smelter/foundryman
Soap maker
Soldier
Spice purveyor
Spinner/Weaver
Stonemason/brick layer
Storyteller
Sugar maker
Surveyor
Tailor/seamstress
Tanner
Teacher
Thatcher
Tinker
Tire repairman
Tool & die maker
Toy & game maker
Trader/Wagoner
Trapper
Truck driver
Undertaker
Veterinarian
Watch/clock repairman/maker
Weaver
Welder
Well driller
Wheelwright
Winemaker
Wood gas equipment maker
Woodworker

Here are some examples of Tradesman’s Tools that could be stockpiled and either used and the product/service bartered, or their USE bartered out. One wouldn’t barter away the tools that bring in the food.

±500# scale
±100# scale
±10# scale
±16oz scale


Tailor/Seamstress tools
Sewing machine
Serger
Sewing basket (needles, thimbles, thread, measuring tape,
seam ripper, scissors, shears, marking chalk, straight edge, pins,
neck magnifying glass, etc.)
bolts of cloth, patterns, spare needles, pins, chalk, thread, buttons,
zippers, snaps, etc)
Treadle type sewing machine (Janome 712T)
weaving looms
>1,000 watt generator


Food processing tools
Grain grinders, solar dehydrators, butchering tools, manual meat slicer, manual meat grinder, sausage stuffer, stuffing tubes, jerky shooter, water purifier


barbers tools
scissors, combs, hair brushes, dusting brush, broom, dust pan, chair,
neck apron, razor, shaving cup, shaving soap, towels

ammunition reloader’s tools
Dillion progressive tool w/primary caliber dies
RCBS press with common caliber dies
Bullet casting equipment
lead
black powder making tools & screens

laundry tools
Staber washing machine
laundry soap
bleach
clothes lines w/poles, stakes & clothes pins
water heater (kettle w/tripod)
water tank
12v pump & battery
drain line
James washer w/wringer
2+ washtubs
>1,000 watt generator

entertainment tools
band instruments
projection TV
TV projector
Lap-top computer
DVD disk player
VHS tape player
Chairs
Karaoke machine w/cd-g’s
Lighting system
Sound system
>1,500 watt generator
Battery bank, solar panels, and inverter
protective bullet resistant face for TV’s if used
Classic books for storyteller to read

home canning equipment & supplies
firewood cutting tools
knife/edged tool sharpening tools
printer’s/newspaper publisher’s tools
butcher/meat cutter’s tools
meat processors tools (sausage, etc.)
tanner’s tools
milk processors tools (cheese, etc.)
baker’s tools & supplies
bath house/shower room tools
candle maker’s tools & supplies
gardener’s tools
mechanic’s tools
machinist’s tools - Smithy Granite 1340 Industrial Max metalworking all-in-one machine
woodworker’s tools - Shopsmith Mark V woodworking all-in-one machine
blacksmith’s tools - Oxygen accumulator, acetylene generator
plumber’s tools
lumber making tools - portable sawmill
electrician’s tools
carpenter’s tools
roofer’s tools
stonemason’s tools
primitive building tools
cobbler/shoe maker’s tools
soap maker’s tools
brewer/wine maker’s tools
distillery tools
miller’s tools
spinner & weaver’s tools (looms)
teaching tools and supplies K-12
smelter/foundry/metal worker’s tools
sheep sheering tools
papermaking tools
rope, cordage, and net making tools
millwright’s tools
farm tools (prepare, sow, cultivate, harvest)
biodiesel equipment & supplies
wood gas generator equipment & supplies
charcoal making tools
black powder making tools
paper making tools
reference/do-it-yourself library (books/magazines/CD-ROMs/DVDs)(never let the media out of your control)

[Ken]

Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

Alternative energy specialist
Ammunition re-loader
Appliance repairman
Artist
Assayer
ATTORNEY
Baker
Banker
Barber
Basket maker
Bathhouse/shower room operator
Beekeeper
Bicycle Repairman
Biodiesel maker
Blackpowder maker
Blacksmith
Bookbinder
Botanist
Brew master
Brick maker
Bullet caster
Butcher/meat processor
Candle maker
Candy maker
Carpenter
Cartridge maker
Cartwright
Chandler
Charcoal burner
Cheese maker
Chemist
Chimney sweep
Cobbler/shoe maker
Comedian
Cook
Cooper (barrel maker)
Coppersmith
Dentist
Distiller, drinking alcohol
Distiller, fuel alcohol
Doctor
Dog trainer
Dye maker
Electrician
Electronics tech
Entertainer
Farmer
Farm hand
Farrier
Firewood purveyor
Fisherman
Food canner/processor
Furniture maker
Gardener
Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
Glass maker
Goatherd
Goldsmith/silversmith
Gravedigger
Gunpowder maker
Gunsmith/gun maker
Handyman
Harvester/picker
Heavy equipment operator
Herbalist/mineralist
Historian
Horse trainer/wrangler
Hunter/trapper
Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
Ink maker
Judge/arbitrator
Karaoke operator
Knife maker
Knife sharpener
Knitter/crocheter
Laundress/laundry room operator
LAWYER
Leather worker
Librarian
Logger/forester/sawyer
Lumber maker
Machinist
Maid
Massage therapist
Mechanic
Metal worker
Metallurgist
Midwife
Milk maid
Milk processor
Miller
Millwright
Miner
Moderator
Mulcher/composter/manure collector
Musician
Net maker
Nurse
Optician (eyeglass maker)
Orchardman/arborist
Paper maker
Peace Officer
Pedi-cab driver
Pest control specialist
Pharmacist
Physicist
Plumber
Postman
Pottery maker
Primitive building specialist
Printer/newspaperman
Radio Operator
Rancher
Ranch hand
Repairman
Roofer
Rope/cordage maker
Sail maker
Sailor (Boatswain)
Salt maker
Salvage specialist
Scribe
Secretary
Security guard
Shake/shingle maker
Sheep sheerer
Shepherd
Shipwright/boat builder
Shoemaker
Skill At Arms instructor
Small engine mechanic
Smelter/foundryman
Soap maker
Soldier
Spice purveyor
Spinner/Weaver
Stonemason/brick layer
Storyteller
Sugar maker
Surveyor
Tailor/seamstress
Tanner
Teacher
Thatcher
Tinker
Tire repairman
Tool & die maker
Toy & game maker
Trader/Wagoner
Trapper
Truck driver
Undertaker
Veterinarian
Watch/clock repairman/maker
Weaver
Welder
Well driller
Wheelwright
Winemaker
Wood gas equipment maker
Woodworker


Must have been an oversight.........but I didn't forget YOU. :sneaky2:

[DOGMAN]

Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

Alternative energy specialist
Ammunition re-loader
Appliance repairman
Artist
Assayer
Baker
Banker
Barber
Basket maker
Bathhouse/shower room operator
Beekeeper
Bicycle Repairman
Biodiesel maker
Blackpowder maker
Blacksmith
Bookbinder
Botanist
Brew master
Brick maker
Bullet caster
Butcher/meat processor
Candle maker
Candy maker
Carpenter
Cartridge maker
Cartwright
Chandler
Charcoal burner
Cheese maker
Chemist
Chimney sweep
Cobbler/shoe maker
Comedian
Cook
Cooper (barrel maker)
Coppersmith
Dentist
Distiller, drinking alcohol
Distiller, fuel alcohol
Doctor
Dog trainer
Dye maker
Electrician
Electronics tech
Entertainer
Farmer
Farm hand
Farrier
Firewood purveyor
Fisherman
Food canner/processor
Furniture maker
Gardener
Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
Glass maker
Goatherd
Goldsmith/silversmith
Gravedigger
Gunpowder maker
Gunsmith/gun maker
Handyman
Harvester/picker
Heavy equipment operator
Herbalist/mineralist
Historian
Horse trainer/wrangler
Hunter/trapper
Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
Ink maker
Judge/arbitrator
Karaoke operator
Knife maker
Knife sharpener
Knitter/crocheter
Laundress/laundry room operator
Leather worker
Librarian
Logger/forester/sawyer
Lumber maker
Machinist
Maid
Massage therapist
Mechanic
Metal worker
Metallurgist
Midwife
Milk maid
Milk processor
Miller
Millwright
Miner
Mulcher/composter/manure collector
Musician
Net maker
Nurse
Optician (eyeglass maker)
Orchardman/arborist
Paper maker
Peace Officer
Pedi-cab driver
Pest control specialist
Pharmacist
Physicist
Plumber
Postman
Pottery maker
Primitive building specialist
Printer/newspaperman
Radio Operator
Rancher
Ranch hand
Repairman
Roofer
Rope/cordage maker
Sail maker
Sailor (Boatswain)
Salt maker
Salvage specialist
Scribe
Secretary
Security guard
Shake/shingle maker
Sheep sheerer
Shepherd
Shipwright/boat builder
Shoemaker
Skill At Arms instructor
Small engine mechanic
Smelter/foundryman
Soap maker
Soldier
Spice purveyor
Spinner/Weaver
Stonemason/brick layer
Storyteller
Sugar maker
Surveyor
Tailor/seamstress
Tanner
Teacher
Thatcher
Tinker
Tire repairman
Tool & die maker
Toy & game maker
Trader/Wagoner
Trapper
Truck driver
Undertaker
Veterinarian
Watch/clock repairman/maker
Weaver
Welder
Well driller
Wheelwright
Winemaker
Wood gas equipment maker
Woodworker

Here are some examples of Tradesman’s Tools that could be stockpiled and either used and the product/service bartered, or their USE bartered out. One wouldn’t barter away the tools that bring in the food.

±500# scale
±100# scale
±10# scale
±16oz scale


Tailor/Seamstress tools
Sewing machine
Serger
Sewing basket (needles, thimbles, thread, measuring tape,
seam ripper, scissors, shears, marking chalk, straight edge, pins,
neck magnifying glass, etc.)
bolts of cloth, patterns, spare needles, pins, chalk, thread, buttons,
zippers, snaps, etc)
Treadle type sewing machine (Janome 712T)
weaving looms
>1,000 watt generator


Food processing tools
Grain grinders, solar dehydrators, butchering tools, manual meat slicer, manual meat grinder, sausage stuffer, stuffing tubes, jerky shooter, water purifier


barbers tools
scissors, combs, hair brushes, dusting brush, broom, dust pan, chair,
neck apron, razor, shaving cup, shaving soap, towels

ammunition reloader’s tools
Dillion progressive tool w/primary caliber dies
RCBS press with common caliber dies
Bullet casting equipment
lead
black powder making tools & screens

laundry tools
Staber washing machine
laundry soap
bleach
clothes lines w/poles, stakes & clothes pins
water heater (kettle w/tripod)
water tank
12v pump & battery
drain line
James washer w/wringer
2+ washtubs
>1,000 watt generator

entertainment tools
band instruments
projection TV
TV projector
Lap-top computer
DVD disk player
VHS tape player
Chairs
Karaoke machine w/cd-g’s
Lighting system
Sound system
>1,500 watt generator
Battery bank, solar panels, and inverter
protective bullet resistant face for TV’s if used
Classic books for storyteller to read

home canning equipment & supplies
firewood cutting tools
knife/edged tool sharpening tools
printer’s/newspaper publisher’s tools
butcher/meat cutter’s tools
meat processors tools (sausage, etc.)
tanner’s tools
milk processors tools (cheese, etc.)
baker’s tools & supplies
bath house/shower room tools
candle maker’s tools & supplies
gardener’s tools
mechanic’s tools
machinist’s tools - Smithy Granite 1340 Industrial Max metalworking all-in-one machine
woodworker’s tools - Shopsmith Mark V woodworking all-in-one machine
blacksmith’s tools - Oxygen accumulator, acetylene generator
plumber’s tools
lumber making tools - portable sawmill
electrician’s tools
carpenter’s tools
roofer’s tools
stonemason’s tools
primitive building tools
cobbler/shoe maker’s tools
soap maker’s tools
brewer/wine maker’s tools
distillery tools
miller’s tools
spinner & weaver’s tools (looms)
teaching tools and supplies K-12
smelter/foundry/metal worker’s tools
sheep sheering tools
papermaking tools
rope, cordage, and net making tools
millwright’s tools
farm tools (prepare, sow, cultivate, harvest)
biodiesel equipment & supplies
wood gas generator equipment & supplies
charcoal making tools
black powder making tools
paper making tools
reference/do-it-yourself library (books/magazines/CD-ROMs/DVDs)(never let the media out of your control)


Heck yeah, I'll have employment at the end of the world!

[wareagle69]

holy crap ...who puts all that in their pack

[Rick]

Must have been an oversight.........but I didn't forget YOU

Uh, yeah. Oversight. That's it.

It's not for your pack, duffus. It's barter items. You can keep half stored in bunker 2 East and the other half in bunker 4 South. Just don't store the matches with the gasoline. You know how you are.

[Amazon]

Most of the lady preppers I talk with agree that salt, spices and flavorings will be good bartering items when SHTF.

I made a bridal gown for a wedding in return for 50 lbs of good beef. DH recently repaired a transmission and in return got an engine for his race car. Bartering is nothing new to us and with the economy it is a great option these days.

[tennecedar]

Thank you Rick that's exactly what I was looking for. I'm already making a list from the suggestions everyone has posted. I think this summer I'll consentrate on primitive tools to take the place of all my power tools that won't have electricity to run them. I need to learn how to use them anyway. No time like the present.

[hoosierarcher]

Just throw some mothballs in with those blankers or might not have any when you need them.

Each blanket is in a vacuum sealed plastic bag with red cedar shavings within the folds. That is a natural moth repellant that smells good.(unlike moth balls)

[crashdive123]

Each blanket is in a vacuum sealed plastic bag with red cedar shavings within the folds. That is a natural moth repellant that smells good.(unlike moth balls)

That's a great way to store em. And you're right - don't need to air them out.

[Madrox]

i pick up a few extra small things here and there that I know I wont need\want. Mainly little things of coffee, extra beer (don't drink it) and other "creature comforts" I know people will want to trade.

[Smok]

I would think that ply wood , nails , rope and blue tarps would be real handy

[Alpine_Sapper]

I don't know if any of the other (ex) smokers have mentioned this, but tobacco is a HORRIBLE item to stock for a TEOTWAWKI or TSHTF scenario as a barter item. Tobacco goes STALE. For those of you that smoke, have you ever been jonesing for a smoke, and not had any cash? After frantically hunting the house for an hour or so you remember last year when you were drunk and dropped a cigarette in the car. so you go tear your car apart to find the blessed nicotine. it's broke. no problem. you split it with another piece of rolling paper. You light it, anticapating that sweet taste of your favorite brand. You inhale...and it's gone. It was so stale it didn't even make it through the first three puffs. Or you didn't, because it was so stale it choked you.

At this point, if I still smoked, and I had barted for those cigarettes, I'd turn around and shoot you. not because you ripped me off. I'm sure I could explain the situation and probably reverse the exchange since you had an inferior product. It's more because when nicotine junkies start fiending they can be as bad as crackheads or heroin addicts.

My point in all this? (Holy cripes, he had a point?) Please keep cigars and cigarettes or roll your own tobacco in a humidifier, or vacuum sealed in the freezer. As for as dip, I have no idea, but I bet the shelf life is pretty lengthy.

[Kankujoe]

This is an interesting thread. Let me tie this into a thread we had a couple of months ago about stealing to survive. Just about everyone said sure the would.

So now you barter one of your wool blankets or five cans of veggies or whatever and that guy tells another then another and the next thing you know everyone in the area knows you have blankets or veggies or whatever. It might have been the last ones you had but they don't know that. So, one evening, they come knocking. Yeah, I know, you have all this fire power. Trouble is they did to. Only they had a scope on theirs. Your family will mourn your passing.

I don't stockpile to trade with anyone. That's not my primary concern. I'll trade my skills but not my supplies. I'd just as soon no one know what I have.

I used to just be paranoid but now I'm paranoid that I'm not paranoid enough.

I agree with this 100%... unless you personally know and trust your trading partner you are asking for trouble... and it may come from many different directions...

When/if things get bad enough to rely on bartering people will be pretty desperate (especially those who have made no preps) and will have no problem just trying to take what they want (or perceive what you have) to provide for their own...

[trax]

[hmmm, let's see....I got a swiss army knife, a yo-yo and a ball of string. Oh and half a pack of Juicy Fruit gum. You want me to go see what I got in the truck? Did I misunderstand the original question?

What do you have for barter? let's go, let's get it rolling here....

oh and by the way...the yo-yo is a maelstrom by spintastics...so don't tell me Not letting that puppy go for just anything

[grundle]

I don't know if any of the other (ex) smokers have mentioned this, but tobacco is a HORRIBLE item to stock for a TEOTWAWKI or TSHTF scenario as a barter item. Tobacco goes STALE. For those of you that smoke, have you ever been jonesing for a smoke, and not had any cash? After frantically hunting the house for an hour or so you remember last year when you were drunk and dropped a cigarette in the car. so you go tear your car apart to find the blessed nicotine. it's broke. no problem. you split it with another piece of rolling paper. You light it, anticapating that sweet taste of your favorite brand. You inhale...and it's gone. It was so stale it didn't even make it through the first three puffs. Or you didn't, because it was so stale it choked you.

At this point, if I still smoked, and I had barted for those cigarettes, I'd turn around and shoot you. not because you ripped me off. I'm sure I could explain the situation and probably reverse the exchange since you had an inferior product. It's more because when nicotine junkies start fiending they can be as bad as crackheads or heroin addicts.

My point in all this? (Holy cripes, he had a point?) Please keep cigars and cigarettes or roll your own tobacco in a humidifier, or vacuum sealed in the freezer. As for as dip, I have no idea, but I bet the shelf life is pretty lengthy.

simple solution -- keep your tobacco in a ziploc bag. Add a little moisture every few months. I have some pipe tobacco that is about a year old. Still moist and gives me a great smoke. I don't have a humidor, just that darn ziploc bag :)

I don't smoke much so that solution saves me from having to buy a new bag of tabac every time I have a hankering. Plus if it starts to dry out you can "refresh" it with some moisture and wait a few days.

[Ole WV Coot]

I guess my charm, pleasing personality and the ability to comfort ladies. If that BS don't work I would go for things I can do reasonably well. I can do most trades, block, brickwork, knives, booze, repair anything but a broken heart or the crack of dawn. Yep, I would barter my skills and I also have a Swiss army knife and a roll of mints in my pocket.

[Rick]

I can repair anything but a broken heart or the crack of dawn.

You're a classic.

[Ole WV Coot]

You're a classic.

Classic means you're old don't it? Either way, Thanks I guess:innocent:

[Rick]

" of the first or highest quality, class, or rank".

You're welcome.

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heavydutymetalcutting (http://heavydutymetalcutting.ru)jacketedwall (http://jacketedwall.ru)japanesecedar (http://japanesecedar.ru)jibtypecrane (http://jibtypecrane.ru)jobabandonment (http://jobabandonment.ru)jobstress (http://jobstress.ru)jogformation (http://jogformation.ru)jointcapsule (http://jointcapsule.ru)jointsealingmaterial (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru)journallubricator (http://journallubricator.ru)juicecatcher (http://juicecatcher.ru)junctionofchannels (http://junctionofchannels.ru)justiciablehomicide (http://justiciablehomicide.ru)juxtapositiontwin (http://juxtapositiontwin.ru)kaposidisease (http://kaposidisease.ru)
keepagoodoffing (http://keepagoodoffing.ru)keepsmthinhand (http://keepsmthinhand.ru)kentishglory (http://kentishglory.ru)kerbweight (http://kerbweight.ru)kerrrotation (http://kerrrotation.ru)keymanassurance (http://keymanassurance.ru)keyserum (http://keyserum.ru)kickplate (http://kickplate.ru)killthefattedcalf (http://killthefattedcalf.ru)kilowattsecond (http://kilowattsecond.ru)kingweakfish (http://kingweakfish.ru)kinozones (http://kinozones.ru)kleinbottle (http://kleinbottle.ru)kneejoint (http://kneejoint.ru)knifesethouse (http://knifesethouse.ru)
knockonatom (http://knockonatom.ru)knowledgestate (http://knowledgestate.ru)kondoferromagnet (http://kondoferromagnet.ru)labeledgraph (http://labeledgraph.ru)laborracket (http://laborracket.ru)labourearnings (http://labourearnings.ru)labourleasing (http://labourleasing.ru)laburnumtree (http://laburnumtree.ru)lacingcourse (http://lacingcourse.ru)lacrimalpoint (http://lacrimalpoint.ru)lactogenicfactor (http://lactogenicfactor.ru)lacunarycoefficient (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru)ladletreatediron (http://ladletreatediron.ru)laggingload (http://laggingload.ru)laissezaller (http://laissezaller.ru)
lambdatransition (http://lambdatransition.ru)laminatedmaterial (http://laminatedmaterial.ru)lammasshoot (http://lammasshoot.ru)lamphouse (http://lamphouse.ru)lancecorporal (http://lancecorporal.ru)lancingdie (http://lancingdie.ru)landingdoor (http://landingdoor.ru)landmarksensor (http://landmarksensor.ru)landreform (http://landreform.ru)landuseratio (http://landuseratio.ru)languagelaboratory (http://languagelaboratory.ru)largeheart (http://largeheart.ru)lasercalibration (http://lasercalibration.ru)laserlens (http://laserlens.ru)laserpulse (http://laserpulse.ru)

[yellowcab]

laterevent (http://laterevent.ru)latrinesergeant (http://latrinesergeant.ru)layabout (http://layabout.ru)leadcoating (http://leadcoating.ru)leadingfirm (http://leadingfirm.ru)learningcurve (http://learningcurve.ru)leaveword (http://leaveword.ru)machinesensible (http://machinesensible.ru)magneticequator (http://magneticequator.ru)magnetotelluricfield (http://magnetotelluricfield.ru)mailinghouse (http://mailinghouse.ru)majorconcern (http://majorconcern.ru)mammasdarling (http://mammasdarling.ru)managerialstaff (http://managerialstaff.ru)manipulatinghand (http://manipulatinghand.ru)
manualchoke (http://manualchoke.ru)medinfobooks (http://medinfobooks.ru)mp3lists (http://mp3lists.ru)nameresolution (http://nameresolution.ru)naphtheneseries (http://naphtheneseries.ru)narrowmouthed (http://narrowmouthed.ru)nationalcensus (http://nationalcensus.ru)naturalfunctor (http://naturalfunctor.ru)navelseed (http://navelseed.ru)neatplaster (http://neatplaster.ru)necroticcaries (http://necroticcaries.ru)negativefibration (http://negativefibration.ru)neighbouringrights (http://neighbouringrights.ru)objectmodule (http://objectmodule.ru)observationballoon (http://observationballoon.ru)
obstructivepatent (http://obstructivepatent.ru)oceanmining (http://oceanmining.ru)octupolephonon (http://octupolephonon.ru)offlinesystem (http://offlinesystem.ru)offsetholder (http://offsetholder.ru)olibanumresinoid (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)onesticket (http://onesticket.ru)packedspheres (http://packedspheres.ru)pagingterminal (http://pagingterminal.ru)palatinebones (http://palatinebones.ru)palmberry (http://palmberry.ru)papercoating (http://papercoating.ru)paraconvexgroup (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)parasolmonoplane (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)parkingbrake (http://parkingbrake.ru)
partfamily (http://partfamily.ru)partialmajorant (http://partialmajorant.ru)quadrupleworm (http://quadrupleworm.ru)qualitybooster (http://qualitybooster.ru)quasimoney (http://quasimoney.ru)quenchedspark (http://quenchedspark.ru)quodrecuperet (http://quodrecuperet.ru)rabbetledge (http://rabbetledge.ru)radialchaser (http://radialchaser.ru)radiationestimator (http://radiationestimator.ru)railwaybridge (http://railwaybridge.ru)randomcoloration (http://randomcoloration.ru)rapidgrowth (http://rapidgrowth.ru)rattlesnakemaster (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru)reachthroughregion (http://reachthroughregion.ru)
readingmagnifier (http://readingmagnifier.ru)rearchain (http://rearchain.ru)recessioncone (http://recessioncone.ru)recordedassignment (http://recordedassignment.ru)rectifiersubstation (http://rectifiersubstation.ru)redemptionvalue (http://redemptionvalue.ru)reducingflange (http://reducingflange.ru)referenceantigen (http://referenceantigen.ru)regeneratedprotein (http://regeneratedprotein.ru)reinvestmentplan (http://reinvestmentplan.ru)safedrilling (http://safedrilling.ru)sagprofile (http://sagprofile.ru)salestypelease (http://salestypelease.ru)samplinginterval (http://samplinginterval.ru)satellitehydrology (http://satellitehydrology.ru)
scarcecommodity (http://scarcecommodity.ru)scrapermat (http://scrapermat.ru)screwingunit (http://screwingunit.ru)seawaterpump (http://seawaterpump.ru)secondaryblock (http://secondaryblock.ru)secularclergy (http://secularclergy.ru)seismicefficiency (http://seismicefficiency.ru)selectivediffuser (http://selectivediffuser.ru)semiasphalticflux (http://semiasphalticflux.ru)semifinishmachining (http://semifinishmachining.ru)spicetrade (http://spicetrade.ru)spysale (http://spysale.ru)stungun (http://stungun.ru)tacticaldiameter (http://tacticaldiameter.ru)tailstockcenter (http://tailstockcenter.ru)
tamecurve (http://tamecurve.ru)tapecorrection (http://tapecorrection.ru)tappingchuck (http://tappingchuck.ru)taskreasoning (http://taskreasoning.ru)technicalgrade (http://technicalgrade.ru)telangiectaticlipoma (http://telangiectaticlipoma.ru)telescopicdamper (http://telescopicdamper.ru)temperateclimate (http://temperateclimate.ru)temperedmeasure (http://temperedmeasure.ru)tenementbuilding (http://tenementbuilding.ru)tuchkas (http://tuchkas.ru/)ultramaficrock (http://ultramaficrock.ru)ultraviolettesting (http://ultraviolettesting.ru)