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terminalfunk
03-19-2009, 06:16 AM
Hi all,
I new to the forum so would first like to say hi to everyone.
Ok, down to business :-)
I heading out to the Amazon to spend 4 weeks with an indigionous tribe, to take photos and learn skills from them. I need to travel extreemley light and can only take what is required along with my camera equipment.
My main question is around what clothing I should take with me, quantity, and any reccomendations on specific products that anyone can swear by. Also I have concerns about protecting my feet, so what are the best ways to ensure I have no foot problems.
Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
Sounds like a great trip. Where in the Amazon will you be going?
I don't live in the Amazon, my part of Brazil is quite a bit south of there. We do have some similar conditions.
In my area (Central Brazil) we have incredible infestations of ticks and chiggers. In the winter months (dry season) I MUST treat my clothes with permethrine, Sawyer Military Clothing treatment to be exact. I have been bitten by upwards of 150 chiggers in a single long weekend. With the permethrine applied to my pants, sock tops, and long sleeve T-shirt, and DEET applied to my calves, forearms, face, and neck I get zero (0) bites.
In rainy season we have no (0) chiggers or ticks.
In the bush I use OD green, tropical weight rip-stop BDU's and a long sleeve T-shirt. They dry quickly and don't get too heavy or chafe when wet. You can expect to be wet often so choose clothes that will dry quickly.
I use a simple system for clothes. Damp hard wearing clothes for the day, the same ones I had on yesterday for when out and about. Warm dry fluffy clothes for sleeping in that get carefully preserved in a dry bag for when under the shelter/sleeping. It makes no sense to put on a fresh set of clothes each day as they will get soaked and dirty in short order. If they get too stanky then just wash them at night and dry them while you sleep or by the fire.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5853/garliccamp023eu3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6585/rcmacsecandonacavernazn1.jpg
I use US Army jungle boots in rainy season. They let the water flow in and out. When wet they don't get heavy. The Panama tread doesn't clog with mud. They are light enough to dry out fairly well at night. A good pair of secure sandals are great for when in camp or night time runs to take a leak.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5276/img2742.jpg
You must give your feet a chance to dry out each night. Give them a rubdown with rubbing alcohol followed by foot powder before bed and allow them to dry. Keep a tube of anti-fungal cream on hand and treat any fungus infections you might have before you go as they are sure to flair up when you get there. Anti-biotic ointment is a must as well. Put a dab on any small cuts before bed.
Buy a few extra pairs of high quality socks and always use fresh ones every day. Your feet break down due to the constant wet. That broken down skin collects in your socks where the heat and humidity incubates the bacteria and fungi that eat skin. They don't care if it is still on you or not and your feet rot. If you kill them on your feet and keep your socks clean you are always at the start of that process every day.
Mac
Just curious, Mack. Where do you usually purchase your BDUs?
Stairman
03-19-2009, 08:35 AM
Thats good information there Pict. Who would know better than someone that lives down there.
Just curious, Mack. Where do you usually purchase your BDUs?
Goodwill is always my first stop when I have to buy BDU's. In fact I recently picked up two sets of camo tropical weight ripstops for a grand total of $20 to use as loaners for the course.
The ones I'm using now were donated by a friend but I need a new set of greens so I'm looking right now.
Mac
So, that was the guy's one and only post? Well at least he got advice from an expert. Interesting enough too Mac, I get all my bush clothes from a 2nd store, winter or summer wear. Figure I'm only gonna wreck them anyway. And that advice on foot care is topnotch for any environment I can think of, well done.
chiangmaimav
03-19-2009, 12:03 PM
That was all good advice from Pict. In jungle I wear all the same stuff except alot of times I wear canvas athletic shoes in wet season as they dry quickly. As for the foot treatments this is important as I have some fungus rot for 2 years now I cant get rid of. I would also bring a poncho, mosquito net and a hammock or tarp. Personally I tape my socks over my pants legs and also tape my shirt sleeves as it helps keep out mosquitos and other bugs, and I also keep a baggie of salt for the leeches and tape cloth around my groin and under my arm at night to keep out centipedes. Have a good trip.
crashdive123
03-19-2009, 12:07 PM
and tape cloth around my groin and under my arm at night to keep out centipedes.Well that's certainly an approach to pest control.....
That is wrong on so many levels. (shiver)
I also like OD BDUs for the woods. They are inexpensive and last a long time. I've always bought from these guys and I've also been pleased with the quality. The sizing may be off a bit but they've always been good to work with.
http://www.vtarmynavy.com/jungle-fatigues.htm
I've also bought these from them.
http://www.vtarmynavy.com/tru-spec-bdu-trousers-100-cotton---olive-drab.htm
That is wrong on so many levels. (shiver)
I also like OD BDUs for the woods. They are inexpensive and last a long time. I've always bought from these guys and I've also been pleased with the quality. The sizing may be off a bit but they've always been good to work with.
http://www.vtarmynavy.com/jungle-fatigues.htm
I've also bought these from them.
http://www.vtarmynavy.com/tru-spec-bdu-trousers-100-cotton---olive-drab.htm
The pic that you posted yesterday suggests that this site may suit your taste for jungle attire:
http://www.fredericks.com/Default.asp?Xvp=WML9STR02Home&cookie%5Ftest=1
:innocent:
Aurelius95
03-19-2009, 12:25 PM
Just a question, Rick. Is 100% cotton a good choice for wet environs? I like the style of those BDU's, but was concerned that they may get wet and dry rather slowly. Thoughts? Thanks
crashdive123
03-19-2009, 12:25 PM
It's always good to bring a hiking partner - you know - safety and all that.
Not a problem for me in the Midwest summers. I don't wear them in winter, though. I always have a base layer in my bag along with a fleece jacket and a change of clothes. If it is a cool night, I can put on the base layer or just the change of clothes while my others dry. I've always worn the previous days outerwear even if it's still damp.
wildography
03-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Goodwill is always my first stop when I have to buy BDU's. In fact I recently picked up two sets of camo tropical weight ripstops for a grand total of $20 to use as loaners for the course.
The ones I'm using now were donated by a friend but I need a new set of greens so I'm looking right now. Mac
Good point, Mac. Here in Colorado Springs, there is a LOT of military... I was at the Salvation Army store the other day and saw a good selection of BDUs. I already have plenty, but if anyone travels through a "military town", its a good way to find some BDUs for a fairly inexpensive price.
Beans
03-20-2009, 01:40 AM
If you chose BDU's for jungle wear make sure they are the lightweight ripstop material.
The normal BDU's are too heavy, remain wet, ETC. Underwear usage is a personal choice. I ditched mine as they chaffed, cause sores, ETC The baggy Jungle Utes allow more air circulation without them.
We also called them "recon Skives" as they were always sneaking UP on you when you least expected it.
If you have ever heard "don't get you underwear in a bunch" I believe this is where it started.
ALSO have dry socks, change when ever possible, if washing is not possible hang them from the outside of your pack where the sun can get to them.
In my experience sore feet and chaffed inter thighs can ruin your day or week.
A personal preference is the early VN issue green Jungle Utes with the slanted pockets. They allow you better access when wearing a pack. FWIW they are hard to find.
I also agree with PICT that you need footwear that allows air circulation and water to drain out.
hoosierarcher
03-20-2009, 02:07 PM
I would also recommend Anti Monkey Butt powder for your nether region. Helps tremendously with chaffing. I prefer to wear CoolMax boxer briefs or an atheletic supporter rather than go commando. Ditto what everyone else said about change of socks, anti fungul creams(tell your doctor where you are going and he or she may hook you up with a prescription strength one) and everything else said above.
LudwigVan
03-20-2009, 03:56 PM
A personal preference is the early VN issue green Jungle Utes with the slanted pockets. They allow you better access when wearing a pack. FWIW they are hard to find.
Do the pockets snap shut? If so I think I got a pair of these not long ago.
Beans
03-21-2009, 01:32 PM
Do the pockets snap shut? If so I think I got a pair of these not long ago.
No the US made ones only have buttons.
LudwigVan
03-21-2009, 07:06 PM
No the US made ones only have buttons.
Huh, well I got a pair that has snaps. It's part polyester, practically repels water, good stuff.
Beans
03-21-2009, 11:25 PM
Huh, well I got a pair that has snaps. It's part polyester, practically repels water, good stuff.
New to me. Do they have the GI label and Govt Stock number?
If so what is date of manufacture?
Always ready to learn something new.
The green ute's went out* when the Camo was issued. We changed out in 1968 In country. I think the US Army was issued Camo in late 1968 or early1969 (general issue)as they were trying to trade/buy/steal ours.
* they were still in the supply system. I don't know when the US Army quit issuing them for Rear Area troops.
SARKY
03-22-2009, 02:04 AM
the airforce still had green bdus (closeout) in the uniform shop in 80-81 , at least they did in Okinowa.
terminalfunk
03-22-2009, 11:26 AM
Hey,
Really sorry for the late reply, i didnt have message notification on :-S so didnt realise anyone had responded. That and I been upto my eyeballs trying to get things organised :-)
Im flying into Lima and from there onto Pucallpa to meet the Shipibo indians, from there over to Cuzco to the "Valle Sagrado" and meet with a Quechua shaman. I will then hike the Inca trail to Machu Picchu and onto Quillabamba. From Quillabamba down to Manu National Park to meet the Machiguengas.
I really appreciate the great info Mac, and thanks to everyone else who also responded.
One last question, im going to be out their for a month, do you think a 65LTR backpack is too much seeing as I need to travel pretty light, Ive been looking for a system where I can double bag everything to keep kit dry...
Thanks again all.
Dan
crashdive123
03-22-2009, 11:53 AM
It is sometimes difficult to resist the temptation to fill a pack, but IMO yours is not too big. Remember, you don't have to fill it - that may be tough to accomplish, but it'll save you the price of a new pack.
terminalfunk
03-22-2009, 12:52 PM
It is sometimes difficult to resist the temptation to fill a pack, but IMO yours is not too big. Remember, you don't have to fill it - that may be tough to accomplish, but it'll save you the price of a new pack.
Thanks for the quick response, ive not yet purchased the rucksack, figured I would get a new one for this trip, ill look at the 65Ltr ones, Just want to keep the weight down as much as possible. I know what im like, when ive got room in there I lend to think less efficiently :-S
Thansk again,
Dan
crashdive123
03-22-2009, 02:30 PM
For me, I would rather have the extra room and not need it than need it and not have it. Since you will be out a while, you may want the larger pack.
terminalfunk
03-22-2009, 03:10 PM
For me, I would rather have the extra room and not need it than need it and not have it. Since you will be out a while, you may want the larger pack.
Yeah good point, :-)
Thanks again
crashdive123
03-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Hey, when you get a chance how about heading over here (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14) and let us know a bit about yourself. Thanks.
Goloth
03-31-2009, 03:15 AM
Well, I have no idea, you may have already left for the amazon and may not see this until you get back, but as these guys have said, the OD BDU's are some of the best stuff you can get for those moist areas. I personally have a set of marine issue tiger cammy's that I use for things like that. They are built to survive pretty much anything man, they keep water out or they can hold it in. In tight situations you can even take the camo jacket and cut it and tie it up and use it a as a canteen. I've had those things on 13 mile mountain treks and they've never failed me. I've had water seep through all the way once, and that was on that mountain hike. (I hiked up and down Mt. Wilson, Second highest mountain in the rocky mountains, the peak is approximately 14,246 feet) the thing is a ba***rd to get up. Pardon my french. It gets up there around three or four elevation levels high, and since I'm from down in the valley, (Phoenix, Arizona) it's not very kind on the lungs. I made the entire hike practically by myself. (It rains EVERY day there when I go camping, I don't know why.) But that's off-topic, anyway the reason my cammy's got soaked through finally is I had to walk in about 6 miles of rain total out of the 13 mile hike. (had to walk through a couple rain clouds, I'll never forget it) anyways, as I was saying, those cammy's won't fail you at all if you're going somewhere moist, they're built to survive jungle rot, and anything that can take that kind of punishment is amazingly durable. :D
I'll second the larger pack. You may not need the extra carrying capacity, resisting the temptation to fit things in merely because you have the space is good advice. A larger pack has a more effective strap and belt system usually that will be far more comfortable when partially loaded than a smaller pack filled to capacity. Mac
Oasis de Tucanes
08-24-2009, 04:48 PM
Personally. I wouldn't even consider ANY military garb where I live or in any other rainforest environment, including Olympia WA or somewhere like Wales or Asia.
I'll be damned if I want water running in or out of my boots and surely don't want any cotton near me in the jungle.
I wear AFTCO fishing shorts and Worldwide Sportsman or Columbia fishing shirts.
Many companies make nylon "convertible' pants with zip off legs that should do well too.
You can take a swim and they'll be bone dry in 15 minutes.Skip the skivvies.
The only boot's I've found worthwhile are either they typical cheapo rubber boots worn throughout these regions or my Haix Airpower Jungle.The former don't really cut it for anything more than a couple of miles.I'm sure some of the other GTex jungle boots might do OK but all of the mid heights with suede die pretty quick.
Think synthetics for the jungle.
It gets chilly some places at night. Think fleece. everything else is BS in these environments.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
08-24-2009, 06:28 PM
I have several of the zipper britches and they wouldn't make it through the conditions above! Those are for guided fishing trips on a chartered boat. Or maybe I just play to rough. I figure I wouldn't have any pants when I came out. Go with the BDU's with the rip stop and you'll be glad you did.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
08-24-2009, 10:06 PM
I am big on "Chippewah" snake boots, mine are waterproof to just below your knee. Just don't dip them.. Nevermind your gonna need exactly the boots (Pict) described..But me I'll have my snake boots cause I am just playin' in the swamp and not the rainforrest gees...complicated questions???
samfranklin
09-02-2009, 12:36 PM
My self if it's hot walking boots, lightweight cargo shorts and t-shirt and walking jumper;
If it's just normal the same as above but walking trousers instead of shorts and a coat (if rain is expected)
same as normal but thermal long johns and top under clothes and gloves and hats (poss balaclava!
That is what I wear
I read in a book that light colored clothes don't attract bugs as much as something dark like navy blue. Is this BS?
crashdive123
09-03-2009, 02:45 PM
What book?
campers pocketguide
I dont really trust it though.
crashdive123
09-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Not sure about the rest of the book, but wearing light colored clothing is good advice. Why don't you trust it?
because some of the other information is false
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