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Nativedude
03-11-2009, 01:01 AM
If you are going to post or answer posts on this forum then you have spell out the words and use punctuation. NOT "texting shorthand & abbreviations".

If you do not know how to spell then use "spell check" or a dictionary.

This is a "Chat Forum", not an instant message of texting forum

Moderators: This should be posted as a sticky in every topic and added to the "Forum Rules & Staff" (http://wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6074) thread.

crashdive123
03-11-2009, 08:15 AM
Proper spelling and grammar has been hotly debated in the past (anybody remember Batcat?). Those debates always ended in the conclusion that it is more important to share and exchange experiences. While it does make things easier to read and understand, we may have some members that may not have yet learned those things. We certainly have many young members where text messaging is probably more common to them than typing on a keyboard. I wouldn’t want to see people “afraid” to post because they might not yet have the skill to expresses themselves in a coherent manner. We should also remember that we have members from around the world, where English may be as second language to them.

Pict
03-11-2009, 08:27 AM
I happen to be the king of typo's. If I didn't edit and spell check nobody could read what I write. Personally I think it detracts from the credibility of information if it is written sloppy.

Texting makes sense when you're doing it on a cell phone, one handed while eating lunch. Aside from that it's just plain lazy to use it when you have a full keyboard in front of you and time enough to post on the internet. Mac

ETA - Crash. I disagree about the young people. They need to learn to communicate in normal written English (PERIOD). Youth "Code Speech" is fine for when kids are talking with each other, all generations had their own version. That doesn't absolve them from learning the common language spoken by everyone. Most people extend all sorts of grace to people who are posting in their second language. I will make the effort to read a second language post just because the poster took the time to struggle with English. It bthrs me dply whn smn wh hs E as a 1 lang dn't 1/10 effrt+ expt me 2 decode their freaking text. Mac

rebel
03-11-2009, 08:28 AM
Who, at some point said something about spelling? I know I did.
Now, I either understand or don't feel it worth pointing out.
Maybe it's a forum development phase. Where's Remy?

Rick
03-11-2009, 09:20 AM
Texting and misspelled words are two different subjects in my opinion. I agree that texting is inappropriate in written communication. I don't even like to see a text appear on my phone in shorthand. When I see a post that's just too difficult to read I generally skip it. I think most folks do.

As for misspelled words, we need to remember that many folks have physical and/or mental disabilities or literacy issues that may impact their ability to spell. I cringe each time I see someone chastise a member for spelling because I know it's quite possible the writer did the best they could. Spell check is available for those that understand how to use it or recognize that it needs to be used. But words used inappropriately (too vs to vs two, for example) will not be fixed by spell check.

In the end, I really think it boils down to both compassion and patience. If a member has used "text" to post then saying something is appropriate. If they have misspelled something then we should consider they may have done the best they could.

As for making it a sticky, I'm not certain I understand what that would solve. 1st, most folks understand all of the above. 2nd, If a person is struggling with some issue that impacts their posting then a sticky serves no purpose. And 3rd, we have forum rules and other stickies that members don't bother reading or following. (shrug).

wildography
03-11-2009, 09:48 AM
the purpose of posting messages, in this particular forum, is for communication to the members of that forum. Communication involves understanding. If one can't understand the message because of typos, misspelling, grammatical errors, etc then the message is useless. There is nothing wrong with making mistakes in grammer, spelling, etc... unless the message is so hard to figure out that it becomes useless.

Fer xampl, i dink evone nos whad dis says butt it makes u luk unntelijent. This is not the place for using "texting" patterns of word usage... not even for those under the age of 18... yup, that was a hint! LOL

Chris
03-11-2009, 09:54 AM
Personally, I hate that kind of typing. Like using "u" instead of "you" how long does it take to type "you" on a querty keyboard? Like .2 seconds?

Anyone who types like that I assume is a 13 year old D student. But that doesn't mean it is against the rules. It is not our job to police grammar.

If you really really can't stand it, ignore the person. Either in practice, or with the forum ignore feature. Or, you could send them a PM, let them know typing like that makes them look like a fool, and if they want more respect from other forum members they should type out full words.

Alpine_Sapper
03-11-2009, 10:08 AM
If you are going to post or answer posts on this forum then you have spell out the words and use punctuation. NOT "texting shorthand & abbreviations".

If you do not know how to spell then use "spell check" or a dictionary.

This is a "Chat Forum", not an instant message of texting forum

Moderators: This should be posted as a sticky in every topic and added to the "Forum Rules & Staff" (http://wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6074) thread.

Thanks, but I don't think u have the right 2 tell me how 2 act, talk, or behave online. If u can't decipher what I'm saying, don't read teh post. Maybe u should have phrased it as a question, instead of trying 2 dictate how other people behave.

rrsnook
03-11-2009, 10:11 AM
If you are going to post or answer posts on this forum then you have spell out the words and use punctuation. NOT "texting shorthand & abbreviations".

If you do not know how to spell then use "spell check" or a dictionary.

This is a "Chat Forum", not an instant message of texting forum

Moderators: This should be posted as a sticky in every topic and added to the "Forum Rules & Staff" (http://wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6074) thread.

Opinions like this are the reason I do not post very often.

remy
03-11-2009, 11:35 AM
lolllllll
Not to be a punk or anything...but...

"If you are going to post or answer posts on this forum then you have spell out the words and use punctuation."

"This is a "Chat Forum", not an instant message of texting forum"

?!?!?!?!?

pgvoutdoors
03-11-2009, 12:01 PM
I happen to be the king of typo's. If I didn't edit and spell check nobody could read what I write. Personally I think it detracts from the credibility of information if it is written sloppy.

Texting makes sense when you're doing it on a cell phone, one handed while eating lunch. Aside from that it's just plain lazy to use it when you have a full keyboard in front of you and time enough to post on the internet. Mac

ETA - Crash. I disagree about the young people. They need to learn to communicate in normal written English (PERIOD). Youth "Code Speech" is fine for when kids are talking with each other, all generations had their own version. That doesn't absolve them from learning the common language spoken by everyone. Most people extend all sorts of grace to people who are posting in their second language. I will make the effort to read a second language post just because the poster took the time to struggle with English. It bthrs me dply whn smn wh hs E as a 1 lang dn't 1/10 effrt+ expt me 2 decode their freaking text. Mac

PICT- I absolutely agree!

klkak
03-11-2009, 12:16 PM
I too agree that spelling and punctuation are very important in written communication.

Pict
03-11-2009, 12:41 PM
I have certain words I mistype every time I write them.

I cannot type the word "the" without conscious effort. I have typed every version of it possible, "teh" being the most common. I manage to write, int he, oft he, ont he, every time I write a message. i cannot capitalizr teh letter i, ever. Nor can I write the word "for", it always comes out fro.

If i was to typwe mu messages without correction they would look like this paragraph every time i write andythign and i thing that woulod seriously detract from what I was trying to say. i type very fast but very poorly but if I want to be taken seriouldy I know i need to correct my tyoping. Mac (in t5he raw)

Sarge47
03-11-2009, 12:44 PM
Well now, the way I see it I have several options here:
1.) Ignore texting-type messages. (tempting)
2.) Respond as best I can given the "gobbledy-gook" of the 'texter";:drool: then that person bears the brunt of the misunderstanding. (Sounds like fun! That's probably what I'm going to do!):innocent:

doug1980
03-11-2009, 12:50 PM
I think I will keep my opinion on this subject to myself.

klkak
03-11-2009, 01:00 PM
I have certain words I mistype every time I write them.

I cannot type the word "the" without conscious effort. I have typed every version of it possible, "teh" being the most common. I manage to write, int he, oft he, ont he, every time I write a message. i cannot capitalizr teh letter i, ever. Nor can I write the word "for", it always comes out fro.

If i was to typwe mu messages without correction they would look like this paragraph every time i write andythign and i thing that woulod seriously detract from what I was trying to say. i type very fast but very poorly but if I want to be taken seriouldy I know i need to correct my tyoping. Mac (in t5he raw)

My fingers have taken special classes for dyslexic typing. They still have problems. So I proof read every comment a couple times then run the spell check then read it again before posting.

bulrush
03-11-2009, 03:12 PM
This is a "Chat Forum", not an instant message of texting forum


Thank you!

Also be aware that people can access the internet via cellphone now. And some cellphones capitalize all letters, automatically, and there is no way the user can control this. As a programmer myself, I want to say there is absolutely no reason for changing all letters to all caps. One letter takes up the same space on the computer or while travelling the network, regardless of case.

Kids these days, with their 8-tracks, and texting, and bell-bottom jeans, and stuff.

Rockgod1619
03-11-2009, 03:27 PM
I have to say, I absolutely agree with Nativedude and Pict. I'm 24, young enough to understand the "text language", but I'm proud of my ability to properly spell and speak with proper grammar. Sure, some people deserve the benefit of the doubt (those with English as a second language), but the majority of the people on this forum are native English speakers and I can understand when the older generation (no offense) have problems deciphering "E-scribblings".

crashdive123
03-11-2009, 03:33 PM
I can understand when the older generation (no offense) have problems deciphering "E-scribblings".Rick, Sarge, Hope.....I think he's talking about us.
http://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/emot97.gif (http://smileyshut.com)

Rockgod1619
03-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Haha, I'm not talking about anyone in particular there Crash. Just a generalization. However, if you're putting yourself in that category...:whistling:

Rick
03-11-2009, 04:34 PM
Hmmmm. Define "older".

Rockgod1619
03-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Older is a relative term. You're only as old as you feel. So most of the time I feel about 50, with my knees anyway. How old do you feel, Rick? :lol:

FVR
03-11-2009, 06:31 PM
Btw, LOL ru crze. Y no abr?

Tony uk
03-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Hmmmm. Define "older".

One word;- Coot, that guy must have one hell of a hard time one these fourms :huh:

Rick
03-11-2009, 08:30 PM
Methuselah and I grew up together.

Nativedude
04-05-2009, 06:47 PM
Crashdive123 wrote: ". . .We certainly have many young members where text messaging is probably more common to them than typing on a keyboard. . ."

Most, if not all, youngins' of today's generation have computer class or lab in school. I have seen young people who can out type me hands down! . . .No pun intended. Now, while texting & instant messaging are common place today, typing on a "QWERTY" keyboard is common place in school computer classes and computer labs (even most current cell phones have QWERTY keyboards). So, there is no reason why anyone needs to post in "texting shorthand", other than laziness.


Pict wrote: "I happen to be the king of typo's. If I didn't edit and spell check nobody could read what I write. Personally I think it detracts from the credibility of information if it is written sloppy.

Texting makes sense when you're doing it on a cell phone, one handed while eating lunch. Aside from that it's just plain lazy to use it when you have a full keyboard in front of you and time enough to post on the internet.

. . .They need to learn to communicate in normal written English (PERIOD)."

Typos are not due to laziness. They are what they are. . ."tpyos". :online2long:

Kudos on this statement: ". . .They need to learn to communicate in normal written English (PERIOD)."


Rick wrote: "Texting and misspelled words are two different subjects in my opinion. I agree that texting is inappropriate in written communication. I don't even like to see a text appear on my phone in shorthand. . ."

:thumbup:


Wildography wrote: "the purpose of posting messages, in this particular forum, is for communication to the members of that forum. Communication involves understanding. If one can't understand the message because of typos, misspelling, grammatical errors, etc then the message is useless. There is nothing wrong with making mistakes in grammer, spelling, etc... unless the message is so hard to figure out that it becomes useless.

Fer xampl, i dink evone nos whad dis says butt it makes u luk unntelijent. This is not the place for using "texting" patterns of word usage... not even for those under the age of 18... yup, that was a hint!"

EXACTLY!!!


Rockgod1619 wrote: "I have to say, I absolutely agree with Nativedude and Pict. I'm 24, young enough to understand the "text language", but I'm proud of my ability to properly spell and speak with proper grammar. Sure, some people deserve the benefit of the doubt (those with English as a second language), but the majority of the people on this forum are native English speakers and I can understand when the older generation (no offense) have problems deciphering "E-scribblings"."

Thanks Rockgod. And I agree 100%!

doug1980
04-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Or we could not worry ourselves on how others speak and write because it does not negatively affect us at all. It's a free country is it not? Seems to me there are more important things to concern yourselves with then the way people write or speak. Makes you seem as if you feel that you are somehow superior. Must be part of the "good ol' boy system" around here. If they don't fit in they get booted out. Actually this site reminds me of the TV show Survivor, watch your backs newbies you may be the next one voted off.

Rick
04-05-2009, 08:10 PM
We ban sooooooo many around here. But only if we are having a bad mood of just don't like the name they registered under. After all, we have a superior image to protect. We're part of the beautiful people, you know.
http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/moose-brushing.gif

tennecedar
04-05-2009, 08:11 PM
I have trouble understanding the shorthand abbreviations. As for the grammer, I write how I talk. Drawl and all.

crashdive123
04-05-2009, 08:13 PM
Or we could not worry ourselves on how others speak and write because it does not negatively affect us at all. It's a free country is it not? Seems to me there are more important things to concern yourselves with then the way people write or speak. Makes you seem as if you feel that you are somehow superior. Must be part of the "good ol' boy system" around here. If they don't fit in they get booted out. Actually this site reminds me of the TV show Survivor, watch your backs newbies you may be the next one voted off.

Where the heck did that come from? You been sniffing volcanic ash?

doug1980
04-05-2009, 08:15 PM
We ban sooooooo many around here. But only if we are having a bad mood of just don't like the name they registered under. After all, we have a superior image to protect. We're part of the beautiful people, you know.
http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/moose-brushing.gif

Exactly, just like there are soooooo many who use improper grammar or shorthand here. Yet it was made out to be such a big deal. But I better quit talking before I get booted off. That would be devastating to me.

Rick
04-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Me too....

doug1980
04-05-2009, 08:17 PM
Where the heck did that come from? You been sniffing volcanic ash?

Nope...at least I don't think so....hummm maybe I have. Just frustrated that some have to look down on others for the way they speak or write is all. Nothing against the Mods or this site. Just seems like there are more important issues to worry about. I thought this was a free site and all were welcome.

Nativedude
04-05-2009, 09:04 PM
It has nothing to do with being "superior". I, personally, never said anyone should be banned. I use "slang" words occasionally. Words like: youngin', huntin', lookin' thanx, etc., as do others, so that's not the problem.

English and punctuation, and the proper use of both, was always a "rule" in school and at home. And, I DO NOT have any problem with anybody that can't spell. It is pretty easy to decipher misspelled words. The problem lays in trying to decipher texting lingo.

Writing a post with an "LOL", "LMAO", "ROFLMAO", "IMO", "IMHO", "JM2C", etc. in it is not a problem, but posting an entire thread or replying to a question with an answer typed completely in texthand is very frustrating.

I have seen plenty of times where someone has quoted a person replying in texthand with a "Huh?"

And, is it too much to ask, to hold people accountable for their actions?

Doug 1980, you were in the Military, where every action you took you were held accountable for?! So why do you be-grudge those of us that ask people to use proper words, albeit they may be misspelled, to post and reply?

Is seems as though you have an inferiority complex. Although I don't now why you would? Your typing seems to be top notch!

aflineman
04-05-2009, 09:10 PM
Im sorry if my dyslexia offends people. I have been struggling with it for 40 years. As for my typing, when my fingers cramp up so much that tears come out of my eyes, I guess I should just curl up in a little ball and give up going on the internet. Arthritis can be a such a serious ***** to deal with. (And no, I am not writing this post in jest).

Nativedude
04-05-2009, 09:43 PM
In my original post on this thread, where does it say anything about people with dyslexia or those whom are bad spellers? Last I checked. . .it doesn't!?

This is about people whom post using TEXTING LANGUAGE/ABBREVIATIONS and fail to punctuate their posts.

I, too have arthritis in my knuckles and bursitis in my shoulders, so that is a moot point. If I chose to, I could use speech-to-text instead of typing, but typing keeps my fingers nimble. If it gets too extremely painful to type, then I will switch to that method.

doug1980
04-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Nope, no complex of any kind here. And yes I served. But getting ordered to do something in the Military is a far cry from being told how to compose a thread on a public forum. My aunt is an English teacher so I can speak and write clearly, and when I text I do the same. I never use the short hand stuff, but I am not the type of person to tell others how they should do things. That is my point. It's not about the subject of this post, it's the fact that some feel the need to dictate and tell others how they must act and what they must do. Maybe I am reading too much into this, but I feel that it is wrong and rediculous to worry about how others choose to correspond here.

Ole WV Coot
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
One word;- Coot, that guy must have one hell of a hard time one these fourms :huh:

Ignorance is no excuse for stupidity. I don't text on my cell at all, vehicles are equipped with Bluetooth hands free. I have a 17yr old granddaughter that does. I can read and understand but I don't care for it. I normally type as I speak, sometimes exaggerate our Appalachian heritage in what I may type. I have no problem communicating with anyone on any level. I do not think text messaging is appropriate on any forum. Normally I type as I speak locally with the nuances included. Plain simple English is what I prefer. I can speak but not write a few other languages well enough to converse. This is strictly my own opinion which I won't change. In other words I am a card toting Redneck from the Hills of KY & WV and darn proud of it, never thought I was better or worse than anyone else, never kissed anyone's rear in my life and don't take nothin off nobody. I don't care how anyone posts, haven't had any trouble yet so I can handle whatever is pecked out.:thumbs_up:

Ole WV Coot
04-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Im sorry if my dyslexia offends people. I have been struggling with it for 40 years. As for my typing, when my fingers cramp up so much that tears come out of my eyes, I guess I should just curl up in a little ball and give up going on the internet. Arthritis can be a such a serious ***** to deal with. (And no, I am not writing this post in jest).

I've spent time splicing on hooks in all kinds of weather for hours at a time only to have people drive up and complain and ask what's taking so long. Arthritis is no joke. I get cramps in my hands also. Knees and back aren't that great. I am one old guy that can remember crawling out on cross arms breaking ice with a line hammer. You got anything to say, say it. A couple of other men on here know where you are coming from. Hang in.

crashdive123
04-06-2009, 06:11 AM
doug1980 said: I thought this was a free site and all were welcome.It is and they are. I'm curious why you would think anything else, and apparently you do because you also said -
Must be part of the "good ol' boy system" around here. If they don't fit in they get booted out. So, who got "booted" because they didn't fit in?
Actually this site reminds me of the TV show Survivor, watch your backs newbies you may be the next one voted off. ...and that was, what - trying to help others fit in? I guess I just don't understand - which seems to happen quite a bit.

gryffynklm
04-06-2009, 10:54 AM
Personally, I don't use texting lingo. Number one it would take to long to figure most of it out. Number two I type without texting lingo out of courtesy to those who may read what I have written. I like to be understood by those around me and don't want want to labor those like me, who don't text. Grammar and spelling mistakes, typos.... If I can read it without having to read a post several times to figure it out no big deal.

For me it's respect and courtesy . I respect what you have to say and offer that respect by trying to be clear in my words. If thats old School like being self sufficient and doing things yourself. then so be it.

In one hundred years or more there could be a group on a forum like this talking about finding a pen or pencil and learning to use it, to actually write, with his hand. Does anyone have any paper? Paper? What's paper?

Alpine_Sapper
04-06-2009, 11:05 AM
y r u ppl making such a big deal about this? Is this really 2 complicated 4 u to understnd? I mean, if u can't figure out sumthing as simple as this, then mebbe u should go back 2 school.

Sure, it makes the poster look lazy, but come on, I've read posts that were in full english with proper grammar that were harder to read.

So, is it that you prefer to control how other people act, or just want something to complain about?

gryffynklm
04-06-2009, 12:34 PM
Sapper, I agree that even with proper grammar at times people can have a hard time getting their point or question across.

Re-enactors have heard this one. I have heard this question below in WI, IL, IN, VA, and I'm sure the list doesn't stop there.

" Is that a real Fire?" I was baffled by the number of folks that ask that question at events until at Red Bud an event in Indiana. A man comes up to the fire and starts poking holes in the ground around the fire with a shepherds crook planter hook. We asked him what he was doing. His reply was that he was looking for the gas line. We all took a distance of about 20 feet and shouted "OK GO AHEAD". He paused turned a bit pink and walked away.

I guess folks are actually asking are you using propane or charcoal.

Ya good question APSAP.

y r u ppl making such a big deal about this?

Alpine_Sapper
04-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Sapper, I agree that even with proper grammar at times people can have a hard time getting their point or question across.

Re-enactors have heard this one. I have heard this question below in WI, IL, IN, VA, and I'm sure the list doesn't stop there.

" Is that a real Fire?" I was baffled by the number of folks that ask that question at events until at Red Bud an event in Indiana. A man comes up to the fire and starts poking holes in the ground around the fire with a shepherds crook planter hook. We asked him what he was doing. His reply was that he was looking for the gas line. We all took a distance of about 20 feet and shouted "OK GO AHEAD". He paused turned a bit pink and walked away.

I guess folks are actually asking are you using propane or charcoal.

Ya good question APSAP.

y r u ppl making such a big deal about this?

See, my point exactly. He used perfectly proper english until the last two lines, and I still have absolutely no idea what he meant by any of that.

I'm not sure what some codger crawling around a fire has to do with typing, and I'm not seeing the logical conclusion that you are apparently making, so, explain? Maybe put it in txt format or something.

gryffynklm
04-06-2009, 12:44 PM
Why do you slam some one who is agreeing with you?

Alpine_Sapper
04-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Why do you slam some one who is agreeing with you?


I'm not slamming you. I asked for an explanation.

I tend to be a smartass ALL the time, which is where the txt comment came from, but other than that I thought I was being polite. Like I said, i just didn't understand...:blink::confused:

gryffynklm
04-06-2009, 01:12 PM
Thank you. Its difficult to read facial expression over this great of a distance.

I was trying to make the point that some times even with proper english and all that people have difficulty getting their point across.

"Is that a real fire" is a question I get asked almost at almost every event in front of a fire with a roast cooking. You can feel the radiant heat, see and smell the smoke, its obviously a real fire. Are they being a smart ***, stupid or not asking the correct question (not getting their point across despite a properly formed question)

Communication is some times difficult enough with proper english, remove reading a face to see the smirk, or the other cues from a face to face conversation and not knowing the person can lead to miss communication.

From Alpine sapper: See, my point exactly. He used perfectly proper english until the last two lines, and I still have absolutely no idea what he meant by any of that.

I tried and failed.

Alpine_Sapper
04-06-2009, 01:16 PM
Thank you. Its difficult to read facial expression over this great of a distance.

I was trying to make the point that some times even with proper english and all that people have difficulty getting their point across.

"Is that a real fire" is a question I get asked almost at almost every event in front of a fire with a roast cooking. You can feel the radiant heat, see and smell the smoke, its obviously a real fire. Are they being a smart ***, stupid or not asking the correct question (not getting their point across despite a properly formed question)

Communication is some times difficult enough with proper english, remove reading a face to see the smirk, or the other cues from a face to face conversation and not knowing the person can lead to miss communication.

From Alpine sapper: See, my point exactly. He used perfectly proper english until the last two lines, and I still have absolutely no idea what he meant by any of that.

I tried and failed.


Ah, ok. Thanks for the explanation. I can be dense sometimes.Very dense. Probably a 1000+ posts worth of it. :)

And you didn't fail since you had the patience to stick around and make your point. Thanks.

gryffynklm
04-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Sapper, sent you a PM

Rick
04-06-2009, 01:36 PM
PM, that's text, Alpine for Private Message.:thumbup::yes:

doug1980
04-06-2009, 01:43 PM
PM, that's text, Alpine for Private Message.:thumbup::yes:

LOL...oops I mean laugh out loud, now that was funny. :)

Rick
04-06-2009, 01:47 PM
It's become part of our lexicon. You can't get away from it.

Rick
04-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Speaking of reactions, that whole phlegm reference has me a bit nauseous.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QTvFcdoy3OU/R8v9gjYBdII/AAAAAAAAAR0/NbO7qjor4bc/s320/nauseous.jpg

aflineman
04-07-2009, 12:19 AM
So many martyrs!
In my original post on this thread, where does it say anything about people with dyslexia or those whom are bad spellers? Last I checked. . .it doesn't!?

This is about people whom post using TEXTING LANGUAGE/ABBREVIATIONS and fail to punctuate their posts.

I, too have arthritis in my knuckles and bursitis in my shoulders, so that is a moot point. If I chose to, I could use speech-to-text instead of typing, but typing keeps my fingers nimble. If it gets too extremely painful to type, then I will switch to that method.
I guess I am just touchy on this subject. On another website some moderator made it his duty to be the "Grammar Patrol". He rode me about my grammar until I quit going to the site. I tend to bristle when I see it brought up. :hugs: (I couldn't find a "cheers" smilie, so this will have to do).


I've spent time splicing on hooks in all kinds of weather for hours at a time only to have people drive up and complain and ask what's taking so long. Arthritis is no joke. I get cramps in my hands also. Knees and back aren't that great. I am one old guy that can remember crawling out on cross arms breaking ice with a line hammer. You got anything to say, say it. A couple of other men on here know where you are coming from. Hang in.
Thanks man. I have good days and bad days, but winters seem to have more bad days than not. Spring is coming though, so I am starting to be able to do more (without hurtin' so darn much).:goof:

BTW: I learned to climb on ice. I didn't even know what the "high-side" of a pole was, until spring thaw came around and I had to learn. :)

trax
04-07-2009, 10:31 AM
Rick: lexicon?

Remy: paradoxical?

Didn't I have to speak to you boys once before about not using words like marmalade when you can't spell jam?

I view the people using texting abbreviations this way, I can figure out what they're writing, but with those of us still using a real language with real words (althought texting is probably becoming that) can they figure out what we're writing?

Rick
04-07-2009, 10:57 AM
I view the people using texting abbreviations this way...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/382294911_1f38e42988.jpg

crashdive123
04-07-2009, 01:33 PM
Well Rick, I can certainly understand that. I view them a bit more like this guy.

http://www.guzer.com/pictures/scary_face.jpg

tennecedar
04-07-2009, 01:37 PM
That's what I looked like the during my last physical.

Rick
04-07-2009, 02:19 PM
Which end?

tennecedar
04-07-2009, 02:21 PM
Both I'd guess. I got a lady doc but I would have sworn it was Andre the giant for a few moments.

trax
04-07-2009, 02:24 PM
Both I'd guess. I got a lady doc but I would have sworn it was Andre the giant for a few moments.

dygtktp?

(did you get to kiss the principal?)

tennecedar
04-07-2009, 02:27 PM
Who'd wanna kiss somebody after an ordeal like that?

Rick
04-07-2009, 02:31 PM
Yeah, it's too late then. You're already married! Gonna be tough to explain it to the wife, though.

tennecedar
04-07-2009, 02:35 PM
Shoot, she was there. Giggled the whole ride home.

trax
04-07-2009, 02:35 PM
Who'd wanna kiss somebody after an ordeal like that?

I cannot possibly give that question the response I'm thinking in a public forum

crashdive123
04-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Alright Mr. Tennecedar....unless there's anything else.......

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1080967/2/istockphoto_1080967-sexy-medical-doctor.jpg

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