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bulrush
02-11-2009, 11:42 AM
H2O2 is great for treating bacterial skin infections. In fact I am doing so right now on myself. I think it works just as well as, or better than, the Over The Counter triple antibiotic I was using. And it's safe when used on the skin. It's also painless, unlike alcohol.
So I did some research and found the following: the components used to make hydrogen peroxide are extremely dangerous and can only be made by specially trained people in a special lab. The components tend to be unstable (that means they explode).
So, don't do this yourself. In a primitive situation, distill your own alcohol and use it for anti-bacterial functions.
Fletcher
02-11-2009, 08:05 PM
A...............ok
RangerXanatos
02-11-2009, 08:31 PM
H2O2 can be painful in deep cuts. It works in two ways, there is a catalyse in your blood that causes the "bubbling." The bubbling helps scrub the inside of the wound and the bubbles are oxidizing the infection. Peroxide is actually a harmful waste product produced by your cells, so when you use H2O2, you are killing some of your own cells, and the water can throw off the osmotic balance in the area and cause the cells to swell and burst. But the good outways the bad in most instances of using H2O2.
Also, ever wonder why H2O2 comes in dark brown bottles?
Because light breaks off the extra Oxygen and you're left with H2O, Water!
Could be survival trick if you need it.
Some people drink H2O2. If you have any anarobic (hates oxygen) bacteria or parasites in your intestinal track, the oxygen that breaks off will kill the bacteria and parasite.
A..........ok. Look guys. Over there. (whispers) Come on, Fletcher, this way.
Actually, an anti-biotic ointment like Neosporin would be a lot better. But HP does make a killer rocket fuel.
crashdive123
02-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Not sure I'd be drinking H2O2 for killing stuff-well other than the person that drinks it. Household 3%, hair bleaches 6% and industrial 10% - can do bad things to you as it is extremely toxic in sufficient quantitiy.
What's in the bottle?
Hydrogen Peroxide. 'Cept the sun got to it and now it's water.
For real?
Yep. Want a drink?
Hang on. That's my cell. Sorry. Gotta run.
RangerXanatos
02-11-2009, 08:50 PM
I have seen it up to 30% In fact, we have a jug of it...
ride_gnu
02-11-2009, 08:55 PM
I have seen it up to 30% In fact, we have a jug of it...
30%! Where did you get that? I have been trying to find some myself for the shear amusement of mixing dish sop and patassium idodie, makes one heck of a sweet mess.
Okay, typo or new chemical? patassium idodie? You be the judge.
RangerXanatos
02-11-2009, 09:13 PM
I don't recall exactly where we got it, but you can do a google search and find various venders.
ride_gnu
02-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Sorry, Typo, Potassium** Better?
bulrush
02-12-2009, 08:31 AM
I only use HP on shallow cuts or infections, and I just put a few drops on it, I don't soak the area on it. So no cells bursting here or anything. My toe is infected. I was cleaning it twice a day and putting on new triple antiobiotic (OTC), but HP really made a big difference in the heal rate.
canid
02-13-2009, 02:33 AM
yeah, i looked into hydrogen peroxide synthesis a while back, when wondering about obtaining high concentration peroxide for rocketry.
it turns out to be extraordinarily complicated and expensive to manufacture.
i did manage to learn much about refining it to good concentrations, but the prospect of storing it is a bit too wild for me. that stuff can explode for no immediately obvious reason.
RunsWithDeer
02-13-2009, 07:35 AM
30%! Where did you get that? I have been trying to find some myself for the shear amusement of mixing dish sop and patassium idodie, makes one heck of a sweet mess.
I use a high concentration peroxide for whitening skull mounts, I get it at a local beautician supply.
Canid - Rocketry? You are too funny.
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Thanks, Ride Gnu. That's a lot better.:D
canid
02-14-2009, 03:46 AM
i try. it ain't rocket science, but i have my moments.
wareagle69
02-14-2009, 04:16 PM
personaly i carry honey with me when in the bush, heck i carry it even when not in the bush and use it on cuts, simplicity is the best(except when referring to our mods)
Who's Honey? Does your wife know about her? She must not be very big if you carry her.
catfish10101
02-14-2009, 06:27 PM
Older peroxide containers can have crystals in the cap and treads that can cause a huge explosion just from the friction of opening the container. The higher the concentration, the higher the risk. I would not try to store H2O2 for any long time. 1 year tops, and then it may be too long already.
wareagle69
02-14-2009, 08:39 PM
Who's Honey? Does your wife know about her? She must not be very big if you carry her.
easy to do with my broad shoulders:D missed you too jack azz:cool:
That's better! Now I feel right at home. Isn't it about time you change that avatar? Personally, I'm tired of being "mooned".
wareagle69
02-14-2009, 08:53 PM
hadn't given it much thought, whats wrong with porketa as my pic, she's doing well saw some tammaracks that she has stripped down this winter, she's just saying thanks for raising her
catfish10101
02-15-2009, 01:03 AM
I guess Rick is tired of kissing my but, LOL.
Here ya go Rick, Just for you.
That's my personal bodyguard, guarding my most prized posession (just before he became dinner)!! LOL!!!
mcfd45
02-15-2009, 03:04 AM
Hydrogen peroxide is necrotic and will kill your tissue. You would be way better off using neosporin or some other sort of triple antibiotic ointment. All we use H2O2 is to remove blood from clothing. it does a good job of drawing it out of the fabric. It even works on cerebralspinal fluid.
catfish10101
02-15-2009, 03:29 AM
I think that once my cerebralspinal fluid is leaking out, I am no longer worried about staining the sheets. LOL.
I have found that H2O2 does a good job of flushing infection from a minor injury. I use it whenever a small cut or scrape starts showing signs of infection. It does help. I do not drink the stuff though I have heard of this. I have also heard of a man that drank so much of it, his face turned blue. They say you start drinking a small amount and slowly raise the amount over time. I'll stick with using it as a topical rinse.
mcfd45
02-15-2009, 01:56 PM
It will also kill your skin tissue. It does work, but their are way better ways out there to deal with the infection. Use whatever you are comfortable with but I would recommend a triple antibiotic type deal.
Jeff
LowKey
02-15-2009, 03:51 PM
I don't wait for infection to set in, if I'm gonna use HP, it's immediate. Things like kitty cat bites and scratches, scrapes from rusty nails, cuts from glass in the garden that came in with the last load of loam dammit...
For regular cuts and scrapes, hangnails and whatnot, it's triple-anti and a bandaid.
JungleBoy
02-16-2009, 11:47 PM
In all honesty, I got turned off using honey to treat wounds after I read about a fellow who insisted on using only honey to treat some wound he had. Long story short, he caught the 'grene weenie (Hehe, see what I did there?) and kicked it. And considering how much better, especially per ounce, for wound treatment some simple over-the-counter medications are, I personally use the 'high tech' stuff. Now to put on fresh biscuits...
edr730
02-17-2009, 02:14 AM
I used hydrogen peroxide lots of times and never burned anything. Worked great on a number of things. A friend used it when high tech ointment didn't help him and it worked completely. Don't drink it because I know of someone who drank a half a glass of it by accident and it made them throw up and made their skin pale for a couple days. It also made them feel weaker the next day, so be careful. I talked to a doctor who told me of a patient of his that had a deadly disease; she later returned to his office with no signs of the disease and said she had taken hydrogen peroxide therapy. He was surprised and curious and thought there must be something to it. Hydrogen peroxide therapies are main stream in Europe and many other countries, but quackery here. Antibiotics are great, they've saved many lives. Sometimes they don't work when other things do. I know of two people who were scheduled for amputations when antibiotics failed. One is my girlfriend who, as a child, was to have her hand cut off. She was taken to an old black woman and her hand was poked, drained and soaked in a homemade solution. Now her hand is as good as new. Another lady was scheduled to have her finger cut off and my mother made a poultice of sassafras leaves. Her finger was cured, the doctor was surprised and everyone was happy. I had a red streak running up my leg, as a kid, after cutting my bare feet up on some nasty stuff. My ma put the smashed sassafras leaves on my leg and it quickly went away. All I know is that I've seen things work that other people may laugh about, but they work and that ain't no joke.
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