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wareagle69
01-16-2009, 08:22 AM
so i finished my tea, had a bite of dark chocolate w/almonds bid the wife goodnight as she sat cozily on the couch wrapped ina nice warm blanket in front of the woodstove put on my boots and headed outside. Now at this temp my face being exposed for more than ten minutes it startes to freeze, so i headed to the barn to tuck the horses in for the night give them a couple of extra flakes jordan my gelding sniffs me and shakes his head(stupid human he thinks, stay in the barn with us) so i close the door and bid them a good night, now i have on my balaclava keeps the face warm and i head to the horses wind break, i lay my self inflating little air pad down and put and fleece on that then i lay down and cover my self with my mummy bag. with my clothes and boots on there is no way i am fitting inside of it, boy is the air under me cold in that pad, so i manage about an hours sleep when i hear the walkie start to static, wife is trying to call but in the cold the walkie frezzes up so does the on button to my led light oh well back to sleep, i dream about riding the horses thats weird. so my toes wake me up dang they are cold starting to get painful and i have a chill up my back, so i get up and walk about for a bit then lay down, warm for a spell then cold and painful again this goes on for a while all the time my toes starting to really hurt, so i think to myself, i know how to do sleep derprivation and i could do this all night walking around and sleep for a few minutes but whats the point of that this experiment was to test my gear and it failed, so after a couple of hours i went inside.
the point to this is testing my gear and for the most part my gear worked except my boots, i need to find a better system for my feet to stay warm. i don't know how many folks hike in the middle of winter at night , i know a few i do know some who sled at night and this exercise was to point out the diffuculty of breaking down at night no time for shlter or fire.Actually i see fire as a danger here if you had to wander to find wood, you would stay warm but i see that as dangerous, so i tried to prove a point about wearing the proper clothing, today i will build a snow trench and try this again, althought it may be warmer and i have already done this at -20 w/o any problems.
crashdive123
01-16-2009, 08:32 AM
You've said that your about 6' 4" - was the bag too small to fit into, or did you just want to test it in another way?
wareagle69
01-16-2009, 08:35 AM
in normal temps the bag is good size, it is a little consrticting in the shoulders but in the winter temps with my cold gear on there is no way to get into and zip up, so its easier to just lay it over me and tuck into, actually stays warm inthere had to take my balaclava off so the moisture from my breath would not cause too much dampness
crashdive123
01-16-2009, 08:40 AM
Would it have been practical to remove enough clothing so that you could fit better in the bag and zip it completely? If you could have, would it have been warm enough?
wareagle69
01-16-2009, 08:45 AM
no i don't think so at -20 last week i was chilled sleeping like that my feet were cold w/o the boots on so double that temp i don't think it would have worked, as i said with the bag draped over me i was mostly comfy but my toes were painful so i will now research some footware problem is may not get -40 again this year
Riverrat
01-16-2009, 08:53 AM
Boots are good, but socks are the answer, I have home knit wool socks, and I have been out in -40 before, and the only part that was warm was the feet....Light socks the heavy wool over them, keep loose fitting and this works for me. Where you had the bag drape over and not fastened,maybe a gap the let air in where your feet were?
tipacanoe
01-16-2009, 09:42 AM
I know when I go out, I make sure I have plenty of disposable hand warmers, would these take care of your toes is this case? I would think that packing some inside your bag just for your feet would be all the planning that would be required for this one problem, maybe?
MCBushbaby
01-16-2009, 12:11 PM
Were you wearing boots inside the bag? Could've been constricting the blood vessels? Try no boots and multiple layers of casual-fitting, high-loft socks (wool). In those temps you need a closed cell foam pad under the air mattress, otherwise the snow is going to battle with your body to change the pad's air temps. The foam mat mitigates this... kind of like giving a machine gun to an army in the 1700s. No fire but you used a windbreak.. I can't see how to improve the external environment any better... so long as there was still air around you. Chemical hand warmers (like HotHands which use plain iron oxide for heat) could be very helpful in the armpits.. but that kind of negates minimalist winter camping philosophy.
WE, I agree totally with RiverRat and Mitch on the socks. That's the way you want to go.
wildWoman
01-16-2009, 03:21 PM
I always thought the inflateable pads are not much use in cold temperatures. I think the moisture of the air inside freezes or something, but I'm not sure. Try a good closed-cell foamie instead or (not much use on a real camping trip, though!) sleep on a piece of foam insulation. Or make a bed of fir boughs under the foam pad.
MCBushbaby
01-16-2009, 03:30 PM
Inflatable mats use air rather than foam for support (duh, I know, but important to point out). Air transfers less heat and cold than a physical material, which is why we have double-wall thermoses. But an air mat on cold ground has a problem: the ground is going to cool the air while your body and bag will try to heat it. Usually the ground wins and you wake up cold. But placed on a foam mat to isolate it from the ground, the battle turns in your favor and the "air on foam" actually does a better job at keeping you warm than two foam mats. Air also prevents compression that could cause cold spots. Yes, it will compress but there is still going to be a layer of air between you and the foam. Whereas with foam, compression merely creates a more solid material that transfers cold better.
Any vapor moisture in the mat won't freeze because it never gets below freezing, as per the above explanation.
tsitenha
01-16-2009, 06:07 PM
To lessen the transfer of heat to the ground ISOLATION BARRIER is better then insulation, twice as much on the bottom as on top. for "bed shoes" I like to use felt liners that my wife has modified by adding extra felt closure to the split on the front and an inner sole also.
primeelite
01-17-2009, 12:49 AM
Yep the knit wool socks are the way to go. I have actually found them to work just as well if not better than a lot of the fancy winter socks out there that have the extra thermal synthetics etc. I know some people who do the multiple layers of socks but for some reason with me it always gets very uncomfortable.
I believe you'd need a pretty thick foam mat to make yourself anywhere near comfortable. Sleeping out on the ground in those kind of temps generally makes for a 15 minute at a time sleep (sleep 15 minutes - wake up - and turn over and sleep another 15 minutes).
Camping on the ground, I usually try to get about a foot or more of boughs down before laying down the mat. A snow trench will help too. In my tent, I use a cot with six inch legs and a thick (2 1/2 inch) thermarest mat in winter. Anything you can do to get yourself off the cold ground.
For sleeping, I use wool socks and oversize moggasins. Anything that does not restrict your bloodflow is good.
I've never had a pair, but I've seen guys use down booties for sleeping. If I can find a pair - I'm going to get them.
wareagle69
01-17-2009, 08:44 AM
good ideas folks
my point of no fire no shelter is to be competnet and comfortable with nothing, just whats on my body and in my pack, for me it is important to be sure i can survive with absolutly nothing in any enviroment, then add luxuries onto that (shelter, fire) that way i am mentally prepared for anything, i talk to folks all the time that tell me they winter camp, so that is where my questions start> What temps? what do you bring? then i start stripping them of their gear and see how well they would do then or if the desire to camp is still there, most of these folks are the ones snowmachining at midnight often alone so i just present the possibilites, to which they seem to think they are immune. "Can you start a fire" i ask, "sure they say" "in the dark in the winter?" then they sputter "well ah sure" "have you ever done it " i ask again, the ignorance amazes me
so when folks ask why i camp with nothing at all, it is because i am builing my skill set and confidence level so i know i will survive.
btw i called my wife cousin immediatly for a pair of handmade wool socks, stay tuned
Sourdough
01-18-2009, 12:08 AM
We use quality Down Booties & thick dry socks. If I go to someones house in the winter I take a pair of booties to wear in their house or cabin.
MCBushbaby
01-18-2009, 12:29 AM
Ironically I found primitive winter camping the most comfortable. Then again I never slept in a bag next to a fire because of the sparking (now I carry a screen door's mesh if I do, works wonders). It was around 0-10F during the day (who knows what it was at night) and we slept in! Awoke at dawn as usual but were so comfortable we snoozed for another hour! Hah! I could never do that in a bag.
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But I don't like stripping an area of dead standing brush so I try to be as much LNT as I can, winter or summer.
outbac1
01-18-2009, 11:56 PM
The cold is not to be trifled with. If you're going to stay out in it you have to do it right. Your test near the house was wise, as it left you a way out. The pain in your toes was a good thing. When the pain goes away is when you need to worry. Because you don't know if they are warm or freezing. The pain tells you they are in between.
Today I transported a person who spent the night out in similar temps. They had crashed their snowmobile alone and were too injured to continue. So they stayed out dressed in their snowsuit and boots. They only had thin socks on and when the pain left they thought their feet were warm. They weren't, they were frozen solid. In addition to their physical injuries they had a body core temp of 28.5C. That is well into the death zone. They survived the rewarming process and will likely recover from their injuries as well. It will be a few days before we find out if they get to keep their feet.
It is far easier to avoid "survival" situations than it is to get thru them. Don't take unnecessary chances. The wise person will exercise a fair amount of prudence and discretion.
sthomas
01-19-2009, 01:16 AM
Those temps are pretty extreme. Mad props to y'all who not only survive them but almost thrive in them.
scafool
01-19-2009, 05:37 AM
Normal air mattresses are cold because the air spaces in them are to big and allow the air to circulate in convection currents.
Foam pads trap air in small enough cells to avoid convection currents but conduct heat through the foam plastic material itself
When it is that cold foamies like Ensolite and the self inflaters like Therma-rest are just too thin by themselves.
You would likely have been much warmer sleeping on and under the hay or straw.
I don't know what kind of boots you had on, but most boots will chill your feet.
Felt boot liners or insulated foot bags help . If felt bootliners are worn make sure you can close the front of them, even if you just poke holes in them for laces.
If you decide to build a snow shelter remember that if you can get to bare ground in the bush, under the snow and leaves, it is often still unfrozen and likely between 35 and 41 degrees Fahrenheit.
Small branches (Hemlock) and dried grass are good insulators from the ground.
They also make a decent material to bank an insulating layer of snow over if you make a brush shelter.
If the weather has been very cold for a while the air in the upper layers of snow will be that cold and will suck heat until it warns up, but it is still better than radiating heat into a clear -40 degree sky or convecting it into -40 degree air.
Being under trees and using brush above you as a roof cuts down a lot on the radiant heat loss to the sky even if you are using no shelter. (outer space is a very cold place..that is why clear skies are colder at night than overcast skies are)
It takes a lot of insulation to sleep out a night when it is 40 below.
About 6 inches under you and about 2 and 1/2 to 3 inches on top to deal with conductive and convective heat loss. . (That is for me from years ago, your mileage may vary.)
This makes for an extremely bulky pack if you can not use local materials.
(Serious cold weather backpacking almost demands a toboggan.)
Personally I don't like seeing people use snow caves or debris shelters unless they really have no other choice, it makes them too hard to find.
If you do use them be sure to put up a flag or something in case a rescuer comes along.
Orange garbage bags make good flags.
crashdive123
01-19-2009, 07:41 AM
Good info Scafool - how about sliding over to the introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks.
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