Survival Situation

[Nickjames]

Hey all,

So me and my friend where having a discution and I wanted to know what the rest of you would do. So, if you where out skidooing in a weather temp. of around -20 degrees celcius with a slight snow fall. If you got lost or your skidoo broke down what would you do? Your tracks are covered your cell phone is dead or gets no reception, and you have no survival gear execpt a flint stick and a multi tool. What do you do now?

Nick

[wareagle69]

i personally would never be that stupid to be outin the winter w/o gear, if you are that stupid then you deserve whats coming

[crashdive123]

I personally wouldn't be out as you describe with no gear.

[Nickjames]

Okay, then what type of survival things would you bring with a limit of 5-10 lbs?

[crashdive123]

Nickjames - why a limit? Why not bring what you need for a given situation?

[wareagle69]

nick why the limit? you are talking the canadian winter time -20c whhile on a snow machine -kind of baffling to me, kind of like the folks who show up here wanting to learn wild edible real quick the point to survivng an event is to be prepared fully not to take lightly what you are going to do when out in the winter, i am assuming that you are going into the bush deep enough to not be able to walk out in a day, only good thing going for ya is if you stick to the trails some other snowmobiler will come along soon enough, but your on a sled man put a stocked pack on it

[flandersander]

If you have a snowmobile, there i virtually no limmit to what you can carry/pull. You could tow a small shanty with a wood stove. then you would be good.

[crashdive123]

Nick - please don't take these questions and comments the wrong way. In your introduction I believe you said you were 14 and had very little wilderness experience. I think it's great that you're asking these questions. Keep in mind, the goal is to be prepared for what you may run into.

[Nickjames]

Okay, so i was just trying to get some easy talk on what you would do but okay. So, if you where in that situation and you had all you basic survival supplies what would you do?

[wareagle69]

well, following due diligence i would have told at least two people where i was going and when i would be returning(more or less) so if i didn't show up SAR would be coming within24 hours,in my pack would be enough gear to more than see me thru the night.

[crashdive123]

I would stay put, make myself as big as possible (so rescuers could see me easier). I would have notified somebody of where I was going and when I would return, so when I'm overdue, I know help will be on the way. I would probably have a sleep and shelter system on the snow machine, so signaling is probably what I want to look at first.

[doug1980]

Basically you need to build some type of shelter to get out of the weather, create some type of signal, and try to build a fire. Then if rescue doesn't come within the first 24 hrs you may want to think about food, water is abundant as long as you have fire and a means to melt snow.

[MCBushbaby]

I'll start by answering your OP without criticizing you or your preparation. But I'll add toyour hypothetical:

Before leaving [I] left an itinerary with my family or friends saying where I was going, the general path I was taking, time I expect to be there by (or back by), and what to do if they didn't hear from me within a given time frame.

THAT ALONE IS GREATER THAN MOST SURVIVAL KITS.

If the person(s) that was left with is trustworthy and diligent of time, I'd sit tight, try to start a fire with the flintsteel, and make myself and my wreck visible. I'd also construct a wind breaking wall while I wait.

[Sourdough]

A you should have snowshoes with you. And the 488# to 744# machine plus 200# rider and 100# of spare fuel, spark plugs, tools, drive belts, medium sleeping bag, food, etc. will weigh in at 800 Pounds to 1044 pounds. that leaves a track you can see for weeks. And it is prepacked for shoeing.

We regularly do 130 miles to 150 miles of cross country bushwhacking per day on Ski-Doo "SUV" or "SWT". And we have break downs, mostly with carburetors, or broken fuel lines. We carry spare hoses and drive belts. We make every effort to all own the same make and model machine. A lot of the men are in there 70's and have 48 years experience riding and fixing machines.

Some times we have to tow a machine in.

We have "NO" trails other than where we rode yesterday or last week.

Often this time of year the rides are in -30* F all day.

Find some old geezers and ride with them, you will learn a lot about fuel management. We also carry small jumper cables, and fuel siphon systems.

Sounds like you ride naked.....:eek:

[Nickjames]

hopeak, right now i dont have a skidoo but i plan on buying one next month or so. Sounds like i had better go super prepared lol

[palm stalker]

sorry boys ur dead..no plan no gear..too stupid to think..

[Sourdough]

hopeak, right now i dont have a skidoo but i plan on buying one next month or so. Sounds like i had better go super prepared lol

What model are you buying.....New or used you "MUST" know how to change the drive belt. You will blow belts, so have at least one extra and two extra is goooder. Keep an eye on your fuel, and your buddies fuel level. Think of the Ski-Doo as a horse for cross country travel. The horse needs food and shoes, etc.

The worse thing is impaling part of your body on a sharp snag. If you are done growing good arctic riding leathers are worth the money, but not if you are still growing fast.

With out a helmet you will face plant onto the windshield.

Be sure to pack the trouble shooting manual in a zip'lock. You'll need it.

Good riding......:):):)

[Sourdough]

sorry boys ur dead..no plan no gear..too stupid to think..

They were smart enough to ask advise, and humble in recieving it, They will be fine.

O'Yea going through the ice is another danger. Even more so on rivers than Lakes. Either way you are now cold and wet, and all your gear is under the machine in the water. Did you know you can run the machine across open water, just don't slow down. Have an exit plan for the far side of the water, so you can get out.

[Nickjames]

Okay, from what i have been reading i think everybody asumes that we will be doing this. For The Record we are not doing this and we never plan on doing this, i was just saying "what if".
Nick

[palm stalker]

oh hopeak..just showing a differnt side of the coin

[flandersander]

oh hopeak..just showing a differnt side of the coin


What there's more than two sides now? When did they change the shape of the coin? How many sides now? Is it a sphere? A penny in a marbal?

[dbldrew]

Hey all,

So me and my friend where having a discution and I wanted to know what the rest of you would do. So, if you where out skidooing in a weather temp. of around -20 degrees celcius with a slight snow fall. If you got lost or your skidoo broke down what would you do? Your tracks are covered your cell phone is dead or gets no reception, and you have no survival gear execpt a flint stick and a multi tool. What do you do now?

Nick

You have to understand that most on this forum believe in being totally prepared, so striking up a hypothetical survival scenario where you are not prepared, goes against everything most here believe in. So trying to strike up a debate will be a bit tough, it’s just hard for the members to debate that scenario that they feel they would never be in.

Now if you re-phrase your original question to say that the “survival pack” that you had strapped to the back of your sled must of come loose somewhere along the trail, therefore leaving you stranded with just the contents of your pocket (flint stick, & multi tool) that might be an easier “pill to swallow” for the members, and you might get some more feedback.

So to answer your question, I would work on shelter and then fire, and wait for rescue. Actually, I’m a bit of a gear head so I would first try to fix the sled and then just drive out. If I failed at getting it started again, then it’s on to shelter/fire.

[nhCyclist]

Note, I've changed this slightly.

I've never been snow-mobiling (I think that is what they call it around here), but my sense is that the clothing those guys wear is pretty warm.

Assuming you are going to stick it out there, have a few hours of light left and are not injured, I'd get on fire detail pretty quick.

15 Minutes Duration: Identify a place to survive, can save time/effort later
100 Minutes: Collect fire wood
60 Minutes: Process wood, but wait to start fire (starting fire should be *easy* using the fuel and/or oil out of your machine, and can be done after you build a structure)
120 Minutes: Construct shelter (should be getting dark now, or earlier)
Rest of Night: Build fire, ontinue to tend fire, collect wood, strategize for tomorrow

[Nickjames]

You have to understand that most on this forum believe in being totally prepared, so striking up a hypothetical survival scenario where you are not prepared, goes against everything most here believe in. So trying to strike up a debate will be a bit tough, it’s just hard for the members to debate that scenario that they feel they would never be in.

Now if you re-phrase your original question to say that the “survival pack” that you had strapped to the back of your sled must of come loose somewhere along the trail, therefore leaving you stranded with just the contents of your pocket (flint stick, & multi tool) that might be an easier “pill to swallow” for the members, and you might get some more feedback.

So to answer your question, I would work on shelter and then fire, and wait for rescue. Actually, I’m a bit of a gear head so I would first try to fix the sled and then just drive out. If I failed at getting it started again, then it’s on to shelter/fire.

Thank you, now i understand why i was having some truobles with this. So..... if you where in the situation listed above what would you do now?
Nick

[linkjare]

Well, first of all i would see which direction the wind is coming from, then find any large based object, for example; Boulder, Trees, Hill. Then I would start to excavate the snow on the opposite side that the wind is blowing against. Then pile the snow up to a relatively strong wall, collect as much greenery as possible and lay it out on the excavated ground. Brakes should be taken every 10 - 15 minutes, to make sure that you do not start to sweat. Then collect branches and light them with the flint rock. After the branches are lit, make sure to cover the fire with small bits of leaves or grass to make smoke. This should help rescue workers to locate your position. Then in the morning try to find your way back home, but never go to far from the vehicle.

[Nickjames]

Thank you linkjare, that was exactly what my friend said to do lol. Great survivors must think alike.

[wareagle69]

i dissagree linkjare
first off be prepared to signal first, if there are more than one of you work in shifts-this is twofold 1-keeps you from overheating while getting the job done 2-keeps and eye out for other traffic/rescue
signalling always comes first then fire(if needed) then shelter, also this exposes why layering your suvival gear is the basic rule of survival(in my book it is) useing the above mentioned scenario you had a pack but it came loose and fell off. well if you have a couple of tools on your belt maybe a space blanket in a pocket and also wearning a veat with many pockets that you would have a whistle in some rasins and m&ms plus firestarting and wood ccutting tools you will never have to put your self in danger of lost tools rendering you ineffective and wondering what you will do not that you lost your pack, some of you need to read your survival books all the way thru instead of just going to the fire and shelter sections

[wareagle69]

Well, first of all i would see which direction the wind is coming from, then find any large based object, for example; Boulder, Trees, Hill. Then I would start to excavate the snow on the opposite side that the wind is blowing against. Then pile the snow up to a relatively strong wall, collect as much greenery as possible and lay it out on the excavated ground. Brakes should be taken every 10 - 15 minutes, to make sure that you do not start to sweat. Then collect branches and light them with the flint rock. After the branches are lit, make sure to cover the fire with small bits of leaves or grass to make smoke. This should help rescue workers to locate your position. Then in the morning try to find your way back home, but never go to far from the vehicle.

what? why find your way home in the morning? if you followe the very first rule of going into the wilds it was to leave an intinerary with two responsible people that way if something goes wrong help is on the way. if 48 hours after your planned return or your life is in danger in your current location and you followed the itinerary that you gave then after 48 hours you may want to think about walking out
i'm confused how do you find your way back home w/o going to far from the vehicle

[wareagle69]

Thank you linkjare, that was exactly what my friend said to do lol. Great survivors must think alike.

begging your pardon how old are you 14? great survivor? and who is this linkjare and his experience and age cuz from what i have seen so far neither of you have either. don't take this the wrong way you are aksing questions but i would not be taking advise from someone on their first post, read thru some of the folks that have been here a while. remember what i said about observation? you will see here who sits behind the key board all day watching bear and les and reading lofty, vs those who get out and get the dirt time
your choice freind-make it wisely your life will depend on it

[Sourdough]

Well, first of all i would see which direction the wind is coming from, then find any large based object, for example; Boulder, Trees, Hill. Then I would start to excavate the snow on the opposite side that the wind is blowing against. Then pile the snow up to a relatively strong wall, collect as much greenery as possible and lay it out on the excavated ground. Brakes should be taken every 10 - 15 minutes, to make sure that you do not start to sweat. Then collect branches and light them with the flint rock. After the branches are lit, make sure to cover the fire with small bits of leaves or grass to make smoke. This should help rescue workers to locate your position. Then in the morning try to find your way back home, but never go to far from the vehicle.


HELLO................it is 14 Frecking Feet of snow down to the top on the alder bushes.

Grass what grass.......18 Frecking feet to the Wet, Ice encusted, GRASS....You may dig down to find a lake, It is all WHITE.

"Collect as much greenery as Possible".......Are you insane....have you ever even seen a Snow Machine......?

[Sourdough]

sorry boys ur dead..no plan no gear..too stupid to think..


I was "WRONG" and you are "CORRECT". :(

[crashdive123]

HELLO................it is 14 Frecking Feet of snow down to the top on the alder bushes, Grass what grass.......18 Frecking feet to the Wet, Ice encusted, GRASS....You may dig down to find a lake, It is all WHITE. "Collect as much greenery as Possible".......Are you insane....have you ever even seen a Snow Machine......?


I was "WRONG" and you are "CORRECT".

Ah - that there is some of that Alaska wilderness experience shining through.

[nell67]

Nick,before giving in to the "easy" answer of a newbie who has not posted before on the forum,listen to the other members here who have proven time and again they know what they are talking about,wareagle,hopeak,klkak,Trax,tsitenha,Jason_Mo ntana,just to name a few,LIVE in the temperatures you are talking about,they know what it takes to live,and to survive those type of temperatures.

[tsitenha]

I was going to say something but it has been said well enough already,

Nick James listen to what is being said

[Sourdough]

I wonder, really wonder if Net, Net, Net.........if we are helping anyone. More and more, I think it is just a game. An endless game, if children using computers to "Yank the chain of the Adults".

[doug1980]

I wonder, really wonder if Net, Net, Net.........if we are helping anyone. More and more, I think it is just a game. An endless game, if children using computers to "Yank the chain of the Adults".

Well I figure if you just help 1 out of 10 that's better than none. I don't understand why some people feel the need to make up these scenarios that they say "we aren't going to do it for real" than why ask? Worry about the things that you need to do to avoid this or the gear you need to have with you. I do know that the people on this forum have taught me a lot and for that I am gratefull. I may or may not be able to survive if it happens but I'm much better off now than when I started.

[crashdive123]

I just chalk it up to an active imagination fueled by television and movies. Ain't really a big deal - ask anything........just don't get upset with the answers.

[outbac1]

Well Nick, I remember being 14 some 36 years ago. I had a sled and my buddy and I couldn't wait to go sledding everyday after school and the weekends. We were always close enough to home that we could walk if we had to and we did more than once. We learned the hard way to fix our sleds in the woods and what spares to carry. Spare fuel, plugs, belts, siphon hose,and tools. But it wasn't all breakdowns.
We also learned to take a few other things with us and we used them on occasion. A compass to help find our way in whiteouts, matches for a fire, an axe and/or a saw for clearing windfalls, building shelter and fires, and a shovel. A nice collaspable aluminum shovel would be nice but there are some cheaper plastic ones that should work OK if cost is an issue. An old proverb said "The best way to make a fire is to rub two sticks together. Make sure one is a match". A flint bar is a nice back up but in this day and age a match is just so easy. There is just no good reason not to have a bunch of "strike anywhere" matches with a striker in your pockets and in your sled. A few years ago I did a two week backwoods canoe trip with a 76 year old Indian. He travelled light. Just a sleeping bag and mattress, heavy coat, raingear, moccassins, and one spare pair of socks. However he smoked a pipe and in his bag he had four large boxes of "strike anywhere" matches. He said "I use a lot for my pipe but if I need a fire I'm not messing around getting it lit".
As to a compass. Any compass from one of the major makers, Brunton/Nexus, Silva, Suunto, will do. The important thing is to learn to use it well. Preferably with a topo map.
Get the best quality gear you can. That dosen't mean it has to cost a lot. A $10.00 Nexus compass is more than adequate to serve your needs.
When you are out having fun take some time to practice with your stuff. Navigate with the map and compass. Build some fires and shelters. Experiment a bit.
We used to take some precooked hamburger patties in aluminum foil, make a small fire and heat them up in the coals. It made for a nice hot lunch on the trail.
For the most part you should be well dressed for your outing as going 50 - 80km/h in -20C is damn cold. Just remember to stay dry, don't sweat.
There is no end to the "KIT" you could take with you. Try to think of some things you could pake that will make your outing more enjoyable and safer.
A few suggestions:
Water bottle
Small cake rack- to support a pot over a fire, grill food
Small pot and lid- melt snow, make cofee/hot chocolate etc.
Cup
Spare socks, touque, facemask, mitts

[outbac1]

I had to leave my earlier post in a hurry and couldn't check it for errors, e.g.: pake instead of take. Ah! The life of a paramedic.

The point is to think about what you would like to have with you. Snowmobiles break down. Depending where you go you could end up a long way from home. Whatever kit you take with you make sure it is of good quality. An emergency situation is no time to have unreliable, easily broken gear that you don't know how to use. Practice with your stuff, make mistakes and learn from it.

As to your original question. A fire, shelter and signal are all important. What to do first really depends on the variables of the situation. If the weather is really nasty and you won't be missed for a few hours. Perhaps a shelter and fire are more important than a signal. There is no right answer. You have to assess the situation, investigate the options and decide on a plan of action that YOU think is right. Virtually any plan is better than no plan. So make one. Set out your priorities and act on it.

Wishing you all the best for your winter fun.

[trax]

Nick, you've received some good advice already, the best being--obviously--don't allow yourself to get stuck in that situation. Always let someone know where you're going. But the guy that said you're dead because of no plan, no gear is wrong. Probably the worst thing in that situation you could have happen is going through the ice. If you're alone and you get out of the water alive, make a shelter. There's lots of threads here on shelter making so there's no point in repeating all of that, use what materials are available to you, period. Inuit have been living in snow houses for millenia. You have to be able to get out of the wind. The wind will kill you, then make fire, then huddle. Initially, that's all you can do. You should hopefully have brought more than one manner of fire ignition with you. If you're still there in the morning, start thinking about drinking water. If you have to melt snow, dig down beneath the surface snow to the second and third layers. If there's more than one person, divide up the work and huddle together once you've got the fire going. If make a good enough shelter, you can peel off some clothes and dry them once you have a good fire going.

If you're traveling with more than one machine, (and this is a mistake I see far too much of) , space yourselves far enough apart so that if one guy does go through the ice, the other guy doesn't follow him in. If you're the lead machine, check over your shoulder for your partner(s) often. I often see snowmobilers following each other like it's rush hour in the city,nose to tail. It's stupid. In that situation, the guy on the "saved" machine is your ticket home.

In the scenario you described though, a light snow wouldn't have obliterated your tracks. If all you did was break down and you're dressed properly for the environment you could follow your own tracks back out, it kind of depends on how much daylight you have and how far you've already traveled.

[Sarge47]

Okay, 1st just let me say that when I was about your age I'd just finished the book: "Tom Sawyer" & I lived in Burlington Iowa right on the Mississippi river. I got so caught up in the book that I wanted to build a raft and float down the river to where-ever it might take me... ambitious, romantic, & unwise!:eek: I know you are trying to strike up a dialogue & have created another of the numerous "silly" threads we get on here to do so. That being said, here's the thing; the only people who'd do what you asked about are the ones who already do it. Instead of generating some kind of "fantasy" survival situation you should, instead, be looking at what you might really be doing; hiking, camping, fishing, hunting, canoeing...etc.. What are you looking forward to actually doing? Then plan accordingly. Cool?:confused::cool:

[minuteman]

If I couldn't fix the skidoo and knew that I was stranded or maybe even lost and being equipped with only the gear stated ( dead cell phone, flint stick and multitool ) then I would do the following; #1 build a shelter even if it had to be a snow cave #2 gather fire building material #3 try to get some fuel from the skidoo via cutting fuel line with my multitool or using something to dip into the gas tank #4 place gasoline soaked item with kindling that I gathered #5 Use flint striker and blade from multitool to ignite fire. #6 Use some material from skidoo to hopefully melt snow and hold water. ( one can survive about 3 weeks with just water and no food ) #7 make a smoky fire by day and 3 fires at night as a distress signal and to make myself more visable day or night. #8 In my spare time I would make a dead fall with spears at the bottom in hopes to catch game for food. I'd dig the pit with a tree branch and sharpen the spears with my multitool and cover the pit with sticks and then a thin layer of snow. #9 If the skidoo is equipped with a mirror ( not sure if they are cause i don't have one ) I would take it off and use for signaling. Also I would take any material off the seat that I could to use as insulation for my feet etc. -20 degrees is nobody's friend.

[DOGMAN]

Ha Ha...I did this very thing this afternoon. I didn't have any clients today for a dog sled tour, and since it was 45 degrees, I figured the dogs needed a day off also. After a lazy morning of reading this forum, I decided to go check a few of my trails and make sure they were good and packed for tours I have coming up this weekend. So, I hopped on my snowmachine and went out for a couple of hours- planning on doing a 20 mile loop. This was about 2pm. It was 45, I figured I'd be home by dark, and I was going to be on trails that I know well. I did not grab my pack (shovel and survival gear) I had on a helmet, puffball jacket, some gloves, carhart insulated bibs, a wool shirt, long johns, and pac boots

About 4:20pm I got my sled very, very stuck. I was about 8 miles from home and my sled was buried. It was starting to get a little dark, the temp had dropped about 20 degrees, and it was starting to snow lightly.

For some, I guess this could have been the start of a survival story. But, i just dug her out with my hands and feet, then dug some more, pulled and pulled the sled sideways up out of the drift, and then packed all the snow around me down with my feet. After about 45 minutes I had it dug out, I put my coat and helmet back on and rode home. I got home with an aching back, and a big chill.

Sometimes stuff like this just happens....you get so comfortable in some situations, that you forget to do even the most basic stuff. Sometimes you get lucky- sometimes you dont.

[TDG]

I'd use the multitool to cut down some trees or saplings. Then use them to build a shelter against the skidoo, just to spare some energy. Then start a fire and try to determine where you roughly are (how far away from civilization etc.)

Boil some fresh snow for drinking and then maybe look for food.

Check out the surroundings for other resources or creeks/rivers.

[trax]

I'd use the multitool to cut down some trees or saplings. Then use them to build a shelter against the skidoo, just to spare some energy. Then start a fire and try to determine where you roughly are (how far away from civilization etc.)

Boil some fresh snow for drinking and then maybe look for food.

Check out the surroundings for other resources or creeks/rivers.

and I guess my response belongs in "things every local knows" thread. Don't use surface snow when you need to melt it for water. Creeks and rivers are pretty much solid when you get into snowmobiling weather in Canada anyway...you're gonna be a long long long time getting through that ice with your multi-tool.

[klkak]

I'd put my snow shoes on and start walking back to where I left my truck.

[trax]

I'd put my snow shoes on and start walking back to where I left my truck.

Yeah yeah yeah...no one likes a show off.:)

[klkak]

Yeah yeah yeah...no one likes a show off.:)

I'm not showing off. Who goes snowmachining without snow shoes.:confused: Thats just asking for troubles.

[trax]

I'm not showing off. Who goes snowmachining without snow shoes.:confused: Thats just asking for troubles.

Around here? Ummm...almost everyone---all the time. I'd love to see some of those people even trying to walk on snowshoes, lol. Not to mention find their way back to their trucks if they did break down ((I wonder where these strange tracks behind my machine might lead?)):rolleyes:

[klkak]

Poor poor pitiful fools:confused:

[tsitenha]

TDG do you know how much time and energy you would spend doing all that cutting with a multi tool? Invest at least in a larger folding saw.

Now for a famous question I was asked: What is warmer snowshoes or moccasins?...........

[Sourdough]

Well, Drove to Homer, Alaska yesterday to pick up the new 09' Super Wide Track Ski-doo. This is about my 16'th new Ski-doo in the last 40 years.

Today I installed Snowshoes, Gun'Boot, Spare drive-belt, supplemental tools. Removed a bunch of factory stuff not needed.

[RBB]

Hey all,

So me and my friend where having a discution and I wanted to know what the rest of you would do. So, if you where out skidooing in a weather temp. of around -20 degrees celcius with a slight snow fall. If you got lost or your skidoo broke down what would you do? Your tracks are covered your cell phone is dead or gets no reception, and you have no survival gear execpt a flint stick and a multi tool. What do you do now?

Nick


Answering this in the spirit in which it was asked I would:

#1. Build a fire to keep warm.

#2. Build a snow trench to sleep in.

#3. Make plans to walk out (even if my tracks are covered - and light snow wouldn't do it - the snowmobile still leaves a packed trail - you can always tell when you step off of it).

Also, today's snowmobiles really don't take you off a packed trail - unlike the snowmobiles built in the 1960s.

TRUE STORY:

Two years ago, we had an adult and a child lost while snowmobiling. Guy was here with his kid from Taiwan - spoke no English. Temps were about minus 25 F. We found the snowmobile about one mile from his starting point. Looked for them all night. He finally showed up 20 miles away. Guy and kid had walked all afternoon and all night. When they heard snowmobiles, they stepped off in the brush so as not to get hit. Language barrier was too much to discover why they hadn't just walked back one mile to the starting point. No frostbite or hypothermia.

[TDG]

and I guess my response belongs in "things every local knows" thread. Don't use surface snow when you need to melt it for water. Creeks and rivers are pretty much solid when you get into snowmobiling weather in Canada anyway...you're gonna be a long long long time getting through that ice with your multi-tool.

Right, and don't eat snow right away :D

I mean look for creeks or rivers to find out which way they flow. So you can follow them until you find some people.

[trax]

Right, and don't eat snow right away :D

I mean look for creeks or rivers to find out which way they flow. So you can follow them until you find some people.

Second layer snow requires less snow to make water when being melted than surface snow does, it's because of the molecular structure of water and how the snow packs down. The creeks and rivers don't flow much when they're frozen solid, or even if they're frozen over you're not going to know much about their flow unless you're already familiar with them, in which case you wouldn't have to check.

[yellowcab]

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