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Sarge47
12-28-2008, 07:29 PM
How many of you have noticed that all of a sudden we have people showing up on this forum asking questions that, by there very posted experience, they should already know the answers to?:confused: Next thing you know we get questions regarding our choice of firearms, ammo, knives, socks, etc.! If you don't think it's that big of a deal or don't care who knows all about you then post away; but I think I'll "err on the side of caution.":cool:

tsitenha
12-28-2008, 07:33 PM
Maybe they are just trying to stimulate latent memories or forgotten experiences...

Even paranoid people have thing to worry about, go get them

Pal334
12-28-2008, 08:14 PM
In my limited experience here, I have seen some pretty basic questions. I was just chalking it up to their curiosity. Maybe, maybe not. But I did learn long ago, that until you can put someone in the "friends list", you always hold somethings back :)

And may I say: you wear the "resident curmudgeon" title with great dignity :)

tsitenha
12-28-2008, 08:15 PM
I see...... ;)

it also came to mimd

Tony uk
12-28-2008, 09:04 PM
Nah, You've just been taken too many of those pills again Sarge, It'll pass in awhile :)

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 12:18 AM
Paranoid...Paranoid.....You mean because there are enough Law Enforcement employees on this forum to support five donut shops.....kind of shallow but, maybe....:rolleyes:

Paranoid...paranoid.....You mean just because one Police Sargent (Maybe), pretends he does not know socks, Maybe. He does not know shirts, boots, packs, maybe.......:rolleyes:

Does not know why people reload ammo....? Yea...That was pure lame.....:rolleyes:

Does not know....Shoulder holsters.....well he over played his act on that one......:rolleyes:

Paranoid....Paranoid....You mean because he pretends to not know anything about Handguns, or cartridges for handguns......so he blew his cover.......:rolleyes:

It is not easy to pretend to be clue'less, the ego gets in the way, and halfway through the thread it is clear Sargent Clue'less has blown the stupid Detective Colombo act......:rolleyes:

Paranoid....Law Enforcement has computer programs that "PING" "Key" words that people on this forum use a lot. Words like "Snow" or "Drugs" or "Medical uses", "Covert Gardening", etc.

I think Sargent Clue'less is just a poor actor. That said, we have had some verbal exchanges that were way out there if taken out of context, or maybe even in context. ( The thing with Spud.....when you start talking compounds, shooting ports, bunkers, .50 Caliber snipper rifles, shooting lanes, fire bombs from air crafts).
Yea, That talk will get the Law Enforcement communities attention.

Paranoid....well, only if one has something to be paranoid about. :rolleyes:;):o

Look a undercover Moose looking for a bale of "Grass"...... I mean Orchard grass.....yea, Orchard Grass.

Brazito
12-29-2008, 12:19 AM
Having just found this forum today I've already learned quite a bit. I've found links to helpful sites I couldn't find on my own. I'm still taking in all the knowledge and experience and as I said in my intro I will probably ask dumb questions. The questions asked might be from an honest to goodness newbie that has no idea about selecting a gun or knife. Guns and knives are a personal choice but if somebody doesn't know the difference between a clip point and a drop point knife an experienced opinion is helpful. If you feel the answer to a question to be to encriminating then don't answer. When I took up photography 40 years back I burdened my uncle with extremely stupid questions, now I'm the one answering the photography questions.

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 12:30 AM
This guy is a Police Sargent......and you start asking about SLR, or what is depth of field, and you may get looked at funny...... Welcome to the forum.

crashdive123
12-29-2008, 12:32 AM
Would that be like me talking about the windows in submarines?:D

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 12:38 AM
Would that be like me talking about the windows in submarines?:D

Yep, :rolleyes:;):)

You could stroke me till the cows come home about submarines. Now shoulder holsters, you better get up early in the morning......:)

SARKY
12-29-2008, 01:10 AM
Hey Sarge,
I was over at the zombie squad web site and that is pretty much what you get. I get the feeling that the majority of people on that site are couch potatoes who want someone to tell them what to do and what to think. They do have a couple of knowledgable people over there but the vast majority are wannabees

SARKY
12-29-2008, 01:15 AM
Hey crash,
it's not the windows i have questions about it's the darn screens. They must be pretty tough to filter out the fish and stuff when you open the windows.

Ole WV Coot
12-29-2008, 06:39 PM
I personally like to sleep with the window open. Sarge, may be a new way of telemarketing? Probably checking on firearms or knowledge thereof. Those of us with CCW will go first. I almost answered a no no, now I try to think a little.

sgtdraino
12-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Okay, this thread seems to be directed at me, so I reckon I should respond.


How many of you have noticed that all of a sudden we have people showing up on this forum asking questions that, by there very posted experience, they should already know the answers to?:confused:

Allow me to first repost my introduction:


Hello everyone! I'm a 35-year-old supervisor in a small town police department. When it comes to survival, I'm still largely a novice, but the subject has always interested me, and I'm hoping to learn a lot here. I love camping, hiking, shooting, knives, and the TV shows "Lost" and "Survivorman."

See that? Novice. Noob. I enjoy the outdoors, but I know I have a lot to learn. What about my "posted experience" indicates otherwise?


Next thing you know we get questions regarding our choice of firearms, ammo, knives, socks, etc.! If you don't think it's that big of a deal or don't care who knows all about you then post away; but I think I'll "err on the side of caution.":cool:

I don't get this, Sarge. Your demeanor in this post seems completely different than your demeanor in the PM you sent me. Which one am I supposed to take seriously?


Paranoid...Paranoid.....You mean because there are enough Law Enforcement employees on this forum to support five donut shops.....kind of shallow but, maybe....:rolleyes:

Do LEOs bother you? In my experience, most of us are very sympathetic to you guys. I am a very strong supporter of the 2nd amendment, I believe the person best able to protect you, is you. Most of the time law enforcement will only get there in time to clean up the mess.


Paranoid...paranoid.....You mean just because one Police Sargent (Maybe),

"Sargent" makes flea and tick collars. :)


pretends he does not know socks, Maybe. He does not know shirts, boots, packs, maybe.......:rolleyes:

Or maybe... maybe that sergeant is a novice to this kinda stuff, and appreciates the informed opinions of people who have a lot more experience than he does! :)


Does not know why people reload ammo....? Yea...That was pure lame.....:rolleyes:

I laid out three reasons why in my original post, reasons I got from a buddy of mine (the same one who received delivery of my Rossi lever-action for me) who enjoys reloading. I was curious if there were more reasons than those. I like the concept of reloading and was thinking of trying it out myself, but I don't think I can afford the equipment to start out right now.


Does not know....Shoulder holsters.....well he over played his act on that one......:rolleyes:

Heh. I know they aren't very comfortable! :)


Paranoid....Paranoid....You mean because he pretends to not know anything about Handguns, or cartridges for handguns......so he blew his cover.......:rolleyes:

lol. How have I done that? Do you think just because someone asks your opinion on something, they don't know anything themselves?


It is not easy to pretend to be clue'less, the ego gets in the way, and halfway through the thread it is clear Sargent Clue'less has blown the stupid Detective Colombo act......:rolleyes:

Well, thanks. I have done nothing to deserve being insulted like this.


Paranoid....Law Enforcement has computer programs that "PING" "Key" words that people on this forum use a lot. Words like "Snow" or "Drugs" or "Medical uses", "Covert Gardening", etc.

lol. I work at a small town police department, we don't have any of that crap. Nor would my department even have any jurisdiction over anything said here. And if I were some kind of federal spook like you seem to be implying, why on earth would I present myself as a law enforcement officer? Wouldn't I choose a more mundane occupation? Like... I dunno... bus driver?


I think Sargent Clue'less is just a poor actor.

lol. Well, you're probably right about that. Because I'm not acting! :eek:

Look. My presence on the internet is pretty well established. Anyone who wants to know all about me and the various things that interest me can simply google "sgtdraino" or "Sgt. Draino." There is only one on the entire internet, and he is me. Prepare to behold what a great big loveable dork I am! :D

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 08:55 PM
Well, It would have been easier to fade'away. So I give you thumbs up for answering the quandary. It is over and complete for me, I said my piece, you answered. You know me gooder...and I know you gooder. We draw a line which completes the past. And the line shall be the start of our future communications...:)

Pal334
12-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Sgt Draino: Well handled, look forward to continued sharing

dbldrew
12-29-2008, 09:20 PM
I think people are being a bit paranoid. Wouldn’t people be more concerned about the feds finding out info rather then a local Police Sergeant? And if any law enforcement, feds, local, or whatever does want to try to gather info on you why would they make a profile that shows they are in the law enforcement? That would be like a cop wearing his Police uniform when he goes undercover, not very logical, and he probably wouldn’t find out too much info. I think he is on the up and up, nothing to worry about.

doug1980
12-29-2008, 09:34 PM
Just curious as to what kind of information any law enforcement official could get from here, that would be damaging to anyone. Just because they read stuff they would still need some proof of some sort. I don't know, sounds pretty thin to me. I do know however that if you are a Military member you can get in trouble for things that you post on the Internet, expecially on MySpace. Cyber Police LOL

nell67
12-29-2008, 10:08 PM
Actually,I think a cop "posing as a cop" on the forum for the purpose of gleaning information into potential illegal storing of weapons and such wouldn't be so far fetched at all,I mean we have several LEO on the forum and did so when spud showed up crowing about what all he stored in his compound,if what he bragged about was illegal,then any one of those LEO could have informed another bureau and that compound could have been raided in short order I am sure. I am not saying that spud professed to any wrong doing here,it was just an example.

sgtdraino
12-29-2008, 10:41 PM
You know me gooder...and I know you gooder. We draw a line which completes the past.

lol. This reminds me of the old sci-fi miniseries "V." Ham Tyler always called Marc Singer's character "gooder." lol. Are you Michael Ironside???

larmus
12-29-2008, 10:47 PM
Hey lets all whip out the tin foil hats and sit in our bomb shelters untill everything blows over or till fema shows up at least...lol.

if they are going to find you they will find you... who here has a drivers license, uh-oh they found ya... its as simple as that...

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 10:50 PM
Just curious as to what kind of information any law enforcement official could get from here, that would be damaging to anyone. Just because they read stuff they would still need some proof of some sort. I don't know, sounds pretty thin to me. I do know however that if you are a Military member you can get in trouble for things that you post on the Internet, expecially on MySpace. Cyber Police LOL

Talking about your illegal firearms. Threatening people (there have been some heated exchanges). Even bragging about how much ammo you inventory, or how many assault firearms you inventory. Talking about some illegal gardening enterprise.

There have been some troll anarchists. I think the moderators do a great job of keeping things under control. I don't have any concern, I do find it curious that there are so many Law Enforcement members here, but I don't care, it is just interesting.

crashdive123
12-29-2008, 10:53 PM
Yeah, that’s why I bounce my computer signal off of 18 satellites in geosynchronous orbit and through servers in 12 countries.

http://fermentation.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/27/tinfoil.jpg

larmus
12-29-2008, 10:55 PM
hahahahaha^

sgtdraino
12-29-2008, 11:03 PM
Check out my new sig! :D

crashdive123
12-29-2008, 11:06 PM
Whew! For a second there I thought it was going to be Barney Fife.:D

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 11:10 PM
lol. This reminds me of the old sci-fi miniseries "V." Ham Tyler always called Marc Singer's character "gooder." lol. Are you Michael Ironside???

I don't remember when I owned a T.V. but was a long time ago. Where did the Draino handle originate? I hope that is not your real name.....?

catfish10101
12-29-2008, 11:18 PM
Well, I don't really care if they know I just bought another semi-automatic pistol. They knew anyways, I bought it new and had to fill out that yellow paper that supposedly, the FBI destroys after so many days. YEA, THEY DESTROY IT AFTER COPYING THE INFO INTO THEIR DATABASE!! LOL!! I'm glad they know that this soceity is well armed!!! They need to know!!! LOL!!!

Sarge47
12-29-2008, 11:32 PM
I don't get this, Sarge. Your demeanor in this post seems completely different than your demeanor in the PM you sent me. Which one am I supposed to take seriously?....And if I were some kind of federal spook like you seem to be implying, why on earth would I present myself as a law enforcement officer? Wouldn't I choose a more mundane occupation? Like... I dunno... bus driver?

1st, Mr. Drain cleaner, PM's are kept confidential, thank you very much! If I realized that you were that crass I wouldn't have bothered!:mad:

2nd, I PM'd you AFTER I posted this while checking out some of your other stuff!

3rd, yeah, right, I'm an undercover fed! So where's my big paycheck?

4th, I've got your number now, so good luck!:cool:

Sourdough
12-29-2008, 11:32 PM
Check out my new sig! :D


See, there you go misleading me again, I thought WOW he got a Sig 229, what a man.......:):):)

sgtdraino
12-30-2008, 06:53 AM
Where did the Draino handle originate? I hope that is not your real name.....?

No, I'm not that foolish. :) The name does have an origin, but it's honestly not that interesting. It is not a reference to the drain cleaner "Drano," which has no "i." If you can dig up the origin story, which is probably posted somewhere around the internet, I will send you TEN DOLLARS! Ooooooooh! :eek:


1st, Mr. Drain cleaner,

Name calling???


PM's are kept confidential, thank you very much! If I realized that you were that crass I wouldn't have bothered!:mad:

2nd, I PM'd you AFTER I posted this while checking out some of your other stuff!

I will hold off responding to this until you have had a chance to read my latest PM to you.


3rd, yeah, right, I'm an undercover fed! So where's my big paycheck?

That was my attempt to diffuse this situation with a little humor. I have found humor to be great for releasing tension. I guess it didn't work this time, though.


4th, I've got your number now, so good luck!:cool:

What does that mean?

Pal334
12-30-2008, 08:31 AM
At the risk of being told to "butt out" . Can't we all just get along? Lets switch to decaf (coffee or tea :)) , sit back and enjoy which ever part of this forum we like. I don't always allow facts to get in the way of my opinions, so here is my opinion.
We have two folks who for what ever reason are not seeing "eye to eye" (tut, tut, let me finish). Might I suggest that this discussion be taken to a more private forum? I have read enough to have had my curiosity satisfied on the matter at hand. To allow this to escalate could in my humble and unsolicited opinion impede what I thought was the purpose of this forum; Free exchange of ideas and opinions. We don't have to exchange Christmas and Valentine cards, but decorum should be in order.

As a famous philosopher (Forest Gump) once said : "Thats all I have to say about that"

sgtdraino
12-30-2008, 09:19 AM
To allow this to escalate could in my humble and unsolicited opinion impede what I thought was the purpose of this forum; Free exchange of ideas and opinions. We don't have to exchange Christmas and Valentine cards, but decorum should be in order.

Sounds good to me! I bear no ill feelings towards anybody here, and am prepared to chalk the whole thing up to a simple misunderstanding. I think this forum has a lot a great people on it, and would like to continue to be a member of this community.

primeelite
12-30-2008, 09:56 AM
I saw an article somewhere about all guns and survival magazine subscriptions and websites traffic going up at a rapid pace. A lot are saying it is because of the United States failing economy and raising crime plus increase in terrorism worldwide. I think people who don't have the basic skills to survive without their fine things are now getting scared.

Sarge47
12-30-2008, 10:01 AM
I apologize to everyone here, especially Sgt. D. for the misunderstanding. We'll call it "my bad" & now I'll do a "Rodney King" & try & get along...fair enough?:confused:

Pal334
12-30-2008, 10:56 AM
:D All better now :cool: Lets play a game of mortar ball. :eek:

larmus
12-30-2008, 11:57 AM
ooooo... thats gonna hurt if he gets hit with the pitch... ouch... lol

Pal334
12-30-2008, 01:27 PM
Or perhaps a less athletic pass time?

crashdive123
12-30-2008, 04:46 PM
....or one of my favorites.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/kitten.jpg

Pal334
12-30-2008, 04:51 PM
Mmm was he in a Book Repository in Texas. Ooops, never mind, a different forum :)

crashdive123
12-30-2008, 05:02 PM
It wasn't me! I'm innocent I tell ya, innocent!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/59880012_913f5a7524_o.jpg

Pal334
12-30-2008, 05:30 PM
After a tough day, nothing beats the Intellectual stimulation provided by the Three Stooges; http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=three+stooges&search_type=&aq=f

Please forgive my out of forum foray, felt that levity was in order. Now back to seriousity.

red lake
12-30-2008, 05:36 PM
Hey lets all whip out the tin foil hats and sit in our bomb shelters untill everything blows over or till fema shows up at least...lol.

if they are going to find you they will find you... who here has a drivers license, uh-oh they found ya... its as simple as that...

SO if it is a major disaster they should be here within a month.

davef
12-30-2008, 06:04 PM
Hey Crash,
Is that guy the Heavens Gate leader? You know, the one who thought
that aliens were hiding in the tail of that comet and were coming to
earth to take him and his followers to.....somewhere else :eek:
I forget the guys name. Was it Fargate, Applegate or something like that?



Yeah, thats why I bounce my computer signal off of 18 satellites in geosynchronous orbit and through servers in 12 countries.

http://fermentation.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/27/tinfoil.jpg

davef
12-30-2008, 06:10 PM
I saw an article somewhere about all guns and survival magazine subscriptions and websites traffic going up at a rapid pace. A lot are saying it is because of the United States failing economy and raising crime plus increase in terrorism worldwide. I think people who don't have the basic skills to survive without their fine things are now getting scared.


Have to agree with you on that one primelite. I feel the same way.

Cheers:)

crashdive123
12-30-2008, 06:31 PM
Hey Crash,
Is that guy the Heavens Gate leader? You know, the one who thought
that aliens were hiding in the tail of that comet and were coming to
earth to take him and his followers to.....somewhere else :eek:
I forget the guys name. Was it Fargate, Applegate or something like that?

I've got no idea who the guy is in the pic I posted. Just a pic I found that I thought was appropriate for the discussion. The moonbat that you are referring to is Marshal Applewhite. Here's a pic.

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/01/65401-004-04E85CD5.jpg

sgtdraino
12-30-2008, 06:57 PM
I apologize to everyone here, especially Sgt. D. for the misunderstanding. We'll call it "my bad" & now I'll do a "Rodney King" & try & get along...fair enough?:confused:

Thanks Sarge, I really appreciate it. I too apologize for any offense I may have caused, I assure you none was intended. And now, back to your regularly scheduled program:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/sgtdraino/SurvivormanBanner.jpg

Sarge47
12-30-2008, 07:27 PM
I've got no idea who the guy is in the pic I posted. Just a pic I found that I thought was appropriate for the discussion. The moonbat that you are referring to is Marshal Applewhite. Here's a pic.

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/01/65401-004-04E85CD5.jpg

Isn't that Sgt. Draino's Dad?:D:eek::rolleyes::cool:

crashdive123
12-30-2008, 07:31 PM
I thought you two kissed and made up.:D

Sarge47
12-30-2008, 07:35 PM
I thought you two kissed and made up.:D
Compare the photos! I saw that & I couldn't stop laughing!:D:D:D:D Sorry, S.D., it was just too good to pass up!:D

crashdive123
12-30-2008, 07:38 PM
Now, the last thing I want to do is presume to know (well maybe not the last thing), but based on Sgtdraino's previous sig, this pic might be more appropriate.

http://oldcoyote.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lost-locke.jpg

Sarge47
12-31-2008, 01:06 AM
Now, the last thing I want to do is presume to know (well maybe not the last thing), but based on Sgtdraino's previous sig, this pic might be more appropriate.

http://oldcoyote.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lost-locke.jpg
Isn't that Telly Savalas? Wow! Advocare really worked for him!:rolleyes:

A190
12-31-2008, 01:21 AM
I do find it curious that there are so many Law Enforcement members here, but I don't care, it is just interesting.

Why do you find it curious that law dawgs are here?
We like to shoot, fish hunt, do the same things you all like to do.

I having never been to the great north west (Alaska) find it absolutely fascinating reading some of the story's you guys up that way post about.

Do I really care if some guy in another state using a pseudonym, smokes some hooter. Nope. Got other things to concern myself with.

All this talk about "illegal guns" Ok, if its an unregistered MG, sawed off shotgun, or pistol with no serial number, yeah its illegal. Otherwise who cares. And if you have one of the above, why would you post about it on a public forum?:rolleyes:

Did it ever occur to some you that maybe , just maybe, some of us ole law dawgs are also concerned the direction things are going and maybe, just maybe, we would also like to be a little better prepared??????:confused:

Now stand up gun fight,,,,,,,,,,,been there and done that.............Ok......
Snop doggie dog and his bros don't worry me..................50 of what you guys call zombies coming up my road, that concerns me just a bit.........

But its a good thing I dont really believe in zombies huh?

Now the comment about shoulder holster...............I guess I dont get the context but I can tell you from my experience with my jack *** rig, yeah they are uncomfortable and I always preferred my belt holster..................

Comments about reloading....................hey, a guys gotta learn from some where and from some body. I have reloaded for 20 years cause its a lot cheaper than store bought...................and I still pick up tips from other reloader s...........................Did I mention I took more than one PPC and police shooting trophy in my younger shooting days, back when these glasses seemed to focus a bit better...........:D

Did I mention in my intro that I am a police handgun, rifle and shotgun instructor. Also have a state cert for full auto instruction???????Nope didnt think so, sorry.....................

Now my handle here is A190 which was my call sign when I was LT with the SWAT...........kinda figured it would bother some as much as Cruiser 1.

Other law dawgs here will know what Crusier 1 is for.................rest of you can guess.

Now I know from other survival sites that cops just arent welcome at some of them...................Heck even the religious survival site with squirrels, I get the feeling they are just tolerated kinda like the ole odd uncle..........But I never got that sense from this site................thats why I signed on.
:)
Figured there were some pretty salty dudes here with some great experienc and story's.....................

If ya dont want law dawgs here then it should be the first up under terms of service or rules here.............sorry no cops allowed..............

Guys, I realize a lot of society dont like cops and that I can accept. I can understand mistrust in this time also...........so dont be telling people you really have tha M1 carbine with the sear replaced to go full auto.

Dont post a pic of the shorty 12 double like I actually saw at another site.........That way you dont have to be looking over your shoulder.

In my 25 I put some serious bad dudes away. I canceled a couple of tickets and got shot and stabbed for my troubles thank you.

If you wann dislike me, do it because I was a jerk or SOB to you.........not because I choose a profession that I happened to believe in...........

Ok rant over................I feel better since the question was asked.......

Oh and yeah sometimes I also wonder if our big brother types are watching us even here...............:eek:

A190
12-31-2008, 01:28 AM
I do find it curious that there are so many Law Enforcement members here, but I don't care, it is just interesting.

Why do you find it curious that law dawgs are here?
We like to shoot, fish hunt, do the same things you all like to do.

I having never been to the great north west (Alaska) find it absolutely fascinating reading some of the story's you guys up that way post about.

Do I really care if some guy in another state using a pseudonym, smokes some hooter. Nope. Got other things to concern myself with.

All this talk about "illegal guns" Ok, if its an unregistered MG, sawed off shotgun, or pistol with no serial number, yeah its illegal. Otherwise who cares. And if you have one of the above, why would you post about it on a public forum?:rolleyes:

Did it ever occur to some you that maybe , just maybe, some of us ole law dawgs are also concerned the direction things are going and maybe, just maybe, we would also like to be a little better prepared??????:confused:

Now stand up gun fight,,,,,,,,,,,been there and done that.............Ok......
Snop doggie dog and his bros don't worry me..................50 of what you guys call zombies coming up my road, that concerns me just a bit.........

But its a good thing I dont really believe in zombies huh?

Now the comment about shoulder holster...............I guess I dont get the context but I can tell you from my experience with my jack *** rig, yeah they are uncomfortable and I always preferred my belt holster..................

Comments about reloading....................hey, a guys gotta learn from some where and from some body. I have reloaded for 20 years cause its a lot cheaper than store bought...................and I still pick up tips from other reloader s...........................Did I mention I took more than one PPC and police shooting trophy in my younger shooting days, back when these glasses seemed to focus a bit better...........:D

Did I mention in my intro that I am a police handgun, rifle and shotgun instructor. Also have a state cert for full auto instruction???????Nope didnt think so, sorry.....................

Now my handle here is A190 which was my call sign when I was LT with the SWAT...........kinda figured it would bother some as much as Cruiser 1.

Other law dawgs here will know what Crusier 1 is for.................rest of you can guess.

Now I know from other survival sites that cops just arent welcome at some of them...................Heck even the religious survival site with squirrels, I get the feeling they are just tolerated kinda like the ole odd uncle..........But I never got that sense from this site................thats why I signed on.
:)
Figured there were some pretty salty dudes here with some great experienc and story's.....................

If ya dont want law dawgs here then it should be the first up under terms of service or rules here.............sorry no cops allowed..............

Guys, I realize a lot of society dont like cops and that I can accept. I can understand mistrust in this time also...........so dont be telling people you really have tha M1 carbine with the sear replaced to go full auto.

Dont post a pic of the shorty 12 double like I actually saw at another site.........That way you dont have to be looking over your shoulder.

In my 25 I put some serious bad dudes away. I canceled a couple of tickets and got shot and stabbed for my troubles thank you.

If you wann dislike me, do it because I was a jerk or SOB to you.........not because I choose a profession that I happened to believe in...........

Ok rant over................I feel better since the question was asked.......

Oh and yeah sometimes I also wonder if our big brother types are watching us even here...............:eek:

SARKY
12-31-2008, 01:52 AM
A190,

It's not so much you or any of the other law enforcement guys here. Many of us here have had our ticket punched with either the military, law enforcement, SAR, etc. The problem is an intrusive govt. that has been getting more intrusive everyday. Do I want the bad guys to have a free ride??? NO! But when the masses are punished for the crimes of a few and it's you guys they send in..... the masses aren't thinking about the A**Holes that created the laws that caused the problem, they are thinking about the people who are in their faces. If I had I don't know...a Thompson (why did i pick that gun...because i'm a WWII buff) sub gun and never did a bad thing with it except own it, why is that so horrible? Go and check the crime stats and tell me, how many submachine guns were used in crimes in the past 40 years? Most of these "bangers" couldn't hit the broad side of a barn for fear of their pants falling down,

Sourdough
12-31-2008, 07:28 AM
A190, If there were 9 school bus drivers on the forum I would find that interesting, If there were 9 Submarine crewmen on the forum I would find that interesting.

I find it interesting that there are so many High School students on the form, I am surprised at who is "NOT" on the forum.

I find it interesting that people take the trouble to join the forum, and only make "ONE" post, or none.

If you think cops are unappreciated. There are few more loathed vocations than professional animal killers. Either Professional Hunters or Professional Trappers.

My biggest problem with cops is the nearest one is 38 miles away. And If I call him he is so over loaded it is three to five days be for he comes. I tried to get a State Trooper post in our area, I tried to get a trooper to live here and commute the 38 miles to the post. No Joy.

If the United States Government could "not" compile at least a 30 page report on me with in 30 seconds; I would wonder why "NOT".......

I just applied for Social Security, via telephone; it took just shy of one and a half hours of questions. That is a lot of information. Add in passport information, CCW permit information, State and Federal Securities License, Drivers License, Alaska PFD application information, Three corporations that file reports. Credit Reports, Court Records, Commercial Pilot License, and yearly Medical Pilot Examination reports, Alaska Registered Big Game Hunting Guide License reports, and applications, and special use permits applications.

Hiding is pointless, being paranoid is pointless. They can have all the information they want. Impede my freedom to wander the wilderness and we will have a problem......:) And if they step on my right to mainline "Vanilla Flavored Creamer".....:mad:

old soldier
12-31-2008, 08:01 AM
Actually,I think a cop "posing as a cop" on the forum for the purpose of gleaning information into potential illegal storing of weapons and such wouldn't be so far fetched at all,I mean we have several LEO on the forum and did so when spud showed up crowing about what all he stored in his compound,if what he bragged about was illegal,then any one of those LEO could have informed another bureau and that compound could have been raided in short order I am sure. I am not saying that spud professed to any wrong doing here,it was just an example.

there wouldn't be any point in raiding one person when you could hang around and get info on fifty, but if a cop wanted info, i don't think they would come on here and tell you they was a cop when being an unemployed plumber,welder ect. would work better.

sgtdraino
12-31-2008, 08:18 AM
Now, the last thing I want to do is presume to know (well maybe not the last thing), but based on Sgtdraino's previous sig, this pic might be more appropriate.

http://oldcoyote.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lost-locke.jpg

lol. That is hilarious, crashdive. Yes, I am the ultimate fanboy of the character John Locke, from ABC's Lost, as played by the excellent actor Terry O'Quinn. One of the few times I have seen a positively-portrayed character on a major network show who is both a knife collector and a hunter.

nell67
12-31-2008, 08:40 AM
there wouldn't be any point in raiding one person when you could hang around and get info on fifty, but if a cop wanted info, i don't think they would come on here and tell you they was a cop when being an unemployed plumber,welder ect. would work better.
Actually we are pretty comfortable with LEO's on the forum,we have so many and they freely tell us they are,I have never thought that they could be here for something other than being a member of the forum.

I was just saying,it would make it very easy for one to join who was here for reasons other than being a member.

crashdive123
12-31-2008, 08:51 AM
A190 - Maybe I'm reading your rant wrong, but not sure where you got the idea that any law enforcement types would be unwelcomed here.

Sourdough
12-31-2008, 09:10 AM
A190 - Maybe I'm reading your rant wrong, but not sure where you got the idea that any law enforcement types would be unwelcomed here.

Ditto: I sure welcome them. Unless they start eyeballing my Vanilla Flavored Creamer stash..........:):):)

Pal334
12-31-2008, 09:21 AM
Ditto: I sure welcome them. Unless they start eyeballing my Vanilla Flavored Creamer stash..........:):):)

Psssst: Would suggest watching that Sgt Drano guy. Ya know Vanilla Flavored Creamers can make a guy do some out of character stuff ;)

Sourdough
12-31-2008, 09:28 AM
Psssst: Would suggest watching that Sgt Drano guy. Ya know Vanilla Flavored Creamers can make a guy do some out of character stuff ;)

He is welcome for coffee anytime.

Pal334
12-31-2008, 09:53 AM
Is that a "qualified offer" ? No mention of the Vanilla Flavored Creamers :)

Sarge47
12-31-2008, 10:07 AM
Why do you find it curious that law dawgs are here?
We like to shoot, fish hunt, do the same things you all like to do.

I having never been to the great north west (Alaska) find it absolutely fascinating reading some of the story's you guys up that way post about.

Do I really care if some guy in another state using a pseudonym, smokes some hooter. Nope. Got other things to concern myself with.

All this talk about "illegal guns" Ok, if its an unregistered MG, sawed off shotgun, or pistol with no serial number, yeah its illegal. Otherwise who cares. And if you have one of the above, why would you post about it on a public forum?:rolleyes:

Did it ever occur to some you that maybe , just maybe, some of us ole law dawgs are also concerned the direction things are going and maybe, just maybe, we would also like to be a little better prepared??????:confused:

Now stand up gun fight,,,,,,,,,,,been there and done that.............Ok......
Snop doggie dog and his bros don't worry me..................50 of what you guys call zombies coming up my road, that concerns me just a bit.........

But its a good thing I dont really believe in zombies huh?

Now the comment about shoulder holster...............I guess I dont get the context but I can tell you from my experience with my jack *** rig, yeah they are uncomfortable and I always preferred my belt holster..................

Comments about reloading....................hey, a guys gotta learn from some where and from some body. I have reloaded for 20 years cause its a lot cheaper than store bought...................and I still pick up tips from other reloader s...........................Did I mention I took more than one PPC and police shooting trophy in my younger shooting days, back when these glasses seemed to focus a bit better...........:D

Did I mention in my intro that I am a police handgun, rifle and shotgun instructor. Also have a state cert for full auto instruction???????Nope didnt think so, sorry.....................

Now my handle here is A190 which was my call sign when I was LT with the SWAT...........kinda figured it would bother some as much as Cruiser 1.

Other law dawgs here will know what Crusier 1 is for.................rest of you can guess.

Now I know from other survival sites that cops just arent welcome at some of them...................Heck even the religious survival site with squirrels, I get the feeling they are just tolerated kinda like the ole odd uncle..........But I never got that sense from this site................thats why I signed on.
:)
Figured there were some pretty salty dudes here with some great experienc and story's.....................

If ya dont want law dawgs here then it should be the first up under terms of service or rules here.............sorry no cops allowed..............

Guys, I realize a lot of society dont like cops and that I can accept. I can understand mistrust in this time also...........so dont be telling people you really have tha M1 carbine with the sear replaced to go full auto.

Dont post a pic of the shorty 12 double like I actually saw at another site.........That way you dont have to be looking over your shoulder.

In my 25 I put some serious bad dudes away. I canceled a couple of tickets and got shot and stabbed for my troubles thank you.

If you wann dislike me, do it because I was a jerk or SOB to you.........not because I choose a profession that I happened to believe in...........

Ok rant over................I feel better since the question was asked.......

Oh and yeah sometimes I also wonder if our big brother types are watching us even here...............:eek:
1st, just let me say that you guys are my heroes. A bit over 20 years ago my wife's sister was leaving her husband. He killed her in a very horrible manner & the Sherriff's dept had him in custody within 12 hours.

2nd, I always look at it like this, if the doo-doo ever does hit the fan then guys like you, Draino, Beu, & some of the others on here are gonna be desperately needed in rebuilding any kind of a community. Law enforcement is a nessesity! You are most welcomed here!:):cool:

Riverrat
12-31-2008, 11:42 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I have to many friends in law enforcement not to welcome ya....I have no problem with any cops, they are welcome as far as I am concerned.....

Sourdough
12-31-2008, 12:44 PM
Is that a "qualified offer" ? No mention of the Vanilla Flavored Creamers :)

Coffee and maybe a little creamer..... But you bring up a point people might not know.

If you visit people living in the bush, it is polite to call and ask, if they need anything from town. There are expected to reimburse you for the cost.

If they have no radiophone, or CB', or any way to make contact; then it is polite to just bring lettuce, carrots, tomato's. The stuff they would die to taste, as they ran out of fresh produce months ago. They will love you forever, and you will always be welcome.

A190
01-02-2009, 02:26 PM
Ok....all, points good and just made.

I grew up in an inner city wilderness and that is where I am at my best survival mode.

A post a while back about the deep snow in the north west and the below freezing weather, I would have been one of those bodies found in the spring thaw and that I know.

Stick me in the woods of SE Oklahoma with our typical snow fall here I will do just fine as I have.

You guys up in Montana, Idaho Oregon and on the east coast in Penn and Virginia,, hey, you gotta remember that here in Oklahoma we only have hills. That in SE oklahoma we have only one almost mountain and it is several feet short of that distinction (Cavanaugh Hill)

Here in Oklahoma what we call rivers most of you guys would call a stream or creek.

Heck most of our rivers at normal stage you can walk across and not get your knees wet.

In Central Oklahoma the North Canadian river must be mowed three times a year.

Each of us have our own unique situations and not one size fits all as regards survival and wilderness living.

Hey, I guess maybe we all get kinda prickly over noting some times.................

Again I am glad I found this site as it is a lot better than some of the buda kabudda kill em all zombie type sites.................is all Im saying....................

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