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skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 01:35 PM
would any of you ice fish in a survival sitution?I know we all say we carry fishing kits . but can you caugth a fish in the winter and know how to get bait?
Sourdough
12-15-2008, 01:55 PM
I have used a gill net under the ice on Lake Clark.
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 02:02 PM
OK I carry my hawk with me so I would have a way to make a hole in the ice how about you how do you get trought the ice and what about bait?
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 02:06 PM
around here you can get bait from golden rods the round ball on the stem will have a small grub in it if it does not have a hole in it an it doesn't take long to collect alot of bait
skunkkiller, I've mentioned before and a few others have as well, the question of energy expended over energy gained in a survival situation. (1000 calories burned making hole in ice versus 250 calories gained from fish...) It might be well worth your while to ice fish, but where I've lived and had most of my outdoors experience, you're going to be a long time making a hole in the ice if it's dead of winter using a 'hawk. Having said that, once you've got a hole, the hardest part is over and you can use the hole repeatedly. Hopefully, you've got some kind of line, if not, there are tree barks that you can skin down to make cordage out of...it's all situation dependant. I'd wrap my line around a stick that's just a bit too big to pull into the hole and drop my hook in. A dead leaf will work as bait if it doesn't crumble off and drift away like toilet paper when it hits the cold water. Fish will be attracted to the extra light your hole makes. Are you a smoker? A bit of tinfoil off a cigarette package will work as bait. My advice is, if you think you're going to stuck where you are, make the hole asap, while you still have the energy, but take your time at it. Put a small stick straight up on your stick that the lines dangling from, then you can stay back in the bush where it will be about 5 to 7 degrees warmer and if the little stick drops...you've got a fish.
Snaring is your best bet in the conditions you're describing, at least the environment that I'm imagining from your post.
Sourdough
12-15-2008, 02:40 PM
WOW Trax, you'all sure got sissy'fish. Now in the GREAT state of ALASKA, we have minnows that field dress at 12 to14 pounds. Really I think people miss think survival locations as in "live off the land". Poo on the land. The good size lakes and sea is where the easy survival food is. A big Lake Clark Lake Trout will go 45 plus pounds, and the average is 6 to 9 pounds, with 17 to 24 pounders once per week.
I think I talked in another thread how to operate the gill net under the ice.
Sourdough
12-15-2008, 02:47 PM
Hey Trax, Alaskan's have bigger poles.......:) Not little sticks and hide in the bushes......:eek:
Au contraire my friend. In the GREAT province of Manitoba, them there yer talkin about are sissy fish. We'd be using them for bait. No seriously, I just think people need to bear in mind that they're going to have to do some work to get fed in a survival situation and they should put some thought into how hard they're going to work.
And SK...since I had to come back and re-post to educate hope anyway....:D...here's something that sometimes helps, if you want to hang around your fishing hole, stir the water once in awhile. It'll attract fish that are looking for other fish to eat. Just stir it carefully, you don't want to be splashing around in those temperatures.
Hey Trax, Alaskan's have bigger poles.......:)
And will use 40 pound test line.
that's not what Alaskan women have been telling me :D
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 02:54 PM
Takes about five minutes to cut a hole with a hawk alwas carry fishing kit because it can be used for more then fishing like snare or bird trap but when done making shelter, fire and some snares time to go fishing !
you must live way south of me, man if you're cutting a hole in lake ice in five minutes with a hawk...
crashdive123
12-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Ice fishing around where I live? Sure - the cubes help keep my drinks cold.:D
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 06:30 PM
right now the ice here in wisconsin is about 5inches thick .I don't cut a round hole I always make mine square it doesn't take as long .I have been ice for 40 years .crappies and bluegills are biting like crazey right now walleye and norterns at the end of the month.
Ole WV Coot
12-15-2008, 06:47 PM
Sounds like a lot of trouble for minnows, don't have any decent bass up there?
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 06:57 PM
minnows are bait dont use them till end of dec.for walleye and northern
Getting through three or four feet of ice with an axe - let alone a tomahawk - would be a problem where I live.
skunkkiller
12-15-2008, 07:13 PM
ice don't get that thick here .I used a hawk because I didn't when to spend the money on a auger made my own shantey and poles.
rebel
12-15-2008, 07:30 PM
My rig. Ya gotta fool 'em.
Sourdough
12-15-2008, 07:40 PM
We use a Husky Chainsaw with a 42" bar. Now we cut a 30" X 30" hole to get the minnows out. The "BIG" Lunkers we open the hole to 4' By 6' feet and use the cherry picker boom on the Military 6X6 to get them pulled to shore. Few years ago we had a whooper almost pulled the 6X6 into the lake, but we got lucky and the 1/2" steel cable snapped and the truck was saved.........:rolleyes::):p
Do you know how to tell if a fishing guide is telling a tale'.....look and see if his lips are moving......:p:p:p
doug1980
12-15-2008, 07:45 PM
We use a Husky Chainsaw with a 42" bar. Now we cut a 30" X 30" hole to get the minnows out. The "BIG" Lunkers we open the hole to 4' By 6' feet and use the cherry picker boom on the Military 6X6 to get them pulled to shore. Few years ago we had a whooper almost pulled the 6X6 into the lake, but we got lucky and the 1/2" steel cable snapped and the truck was saved.........:rolleyes::):p
Do you know how to tell if a fishing guide is telling a tale'.....look and see if his lips are moving......:p:p:p
:eek:What were you fishing for? Whales. :D
crashdive123
12-15-2008, 07:47 PM
Big Foot.:eek::D
Jericho117
12-15-2008, 08:14 PM
The Brook Trout ran through the stream in Gungy Wamp even during the dead of winter, and they were plentiful, so I would always have fish. But ice fishing, no. Unless game was scarce- Im a hunter and like to stay on the earth. I usually avoid ice, but if I truely had to I would.
Jericho117
12-15-2008, 08:15 PM
I suppose the most obvious way to create a hole in the ice is to carry a small fire and build it on the ice, and let it melt through.
laughing beetle
12-15-2008, 08:24 PM
My rig. Ya gotta fool 'em.
That is awesome!!!
rebel
12-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Thanks LB. It's a two hole contraption. It's made with steel rod wrapped with poultry netting and fabric. I then painted the fabric to resemble a fish. After the paint dried it tightened up like a plane wing would have. People are funny, they either think it's cool or they hate it. Like it offends their idea of what ice fishing should be. What ever, I had a good time making and using it.
Sourdough
12-15-2008, 09:35 PM
I suppose the most obvious way to create a hole in the ice is to carry a small fire and build it on the ice, and let it melt through.
Sorry, that does not work......think it through and you'll see why.
laughing beetle
12-15-2008, 09:50 PM
Thanks LB. It's a two hole contraption. It's made with steel rod wrapped with poultry netting and fabric. I then painted the fabric to resemble a fish. After the paint dried it tightened up like a plane wing would have. People are funny, they either think it's cool or they hate it. Like it offends their idea of what ice fishing should be. What ever, I had a good time making and using it.
I wonder what they would think of a giant Lady Bug? :eek: LOL!!:D
crashdive123
12-15-2008, 09:57 PM
Nice work Rebel. Kind of like a giant lure to draw em in.
rebel
12-15-2008, 10:05 PM
What lure? The 4 wheeler?
rebel
12-15-2008, 10:22 PM
In keeping w/ the thread...
Like RBB said the ice can be 4 feet thick. Without a sharp auger it would be really hard to make a hole. Last year, the ice around here was 38 inches thick and it was a little hard with the gas auger.
As for bait, use what you have. Personally, if I could get a hole in the ice, I would set a line(s)/net/trap and go for other game.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 10:42 AM
rebel that is the smarts answer so far . when you caught a fish you eat the meat and the rest is bait for fish or traps.
tsitenha
12-16-2008, 10:58 AM
One of the things I have fabricated some time ago was a small wedge shape chisel that has a a couple of lashing holes in the shank so I can tie it off to a sapling and "chisel" out a hole in the ice. Only need to carry the chisel head in my pack and fabricate on site the shaft.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 11:07 AM
tsitenha that is a good idea .
Ryleyboy
12-16-2008, 12:34 PM
Ice fishing would be good in a survival situation its just some of the ice around here gets up to 20 inches thick and there would be no way to get into that..
tsitenha
12-16-2008, 12:40 PM
Take your time and have a long sapling to reach the water level.
Don't get into a sweat, baddddd
resharpen, reshape the chisel at home after every time you use it.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 05:44 PM
you could carry a file with you to re sharpen it I carry a small haft round one and a stone for my hawk.
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:16 PM
Hunter-not fisher, don't know the ways. Tell me, Hopeak, why is this?
Seriously, hopeak...don't tell him. Jericho, go out and try it.
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:23 PM
No, I don't live in region where there are lakes, and winters are over 35 degrees. I can't. But if I was to get hurt somehow, I would have you to thank-to much motivation. What is the reason why I shouldn't make fire on ice, just tell me so I have new piece of handy info.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:25 PM
a bcdefggggg
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:26 PM
More sh** talking. Whatever.
Jericho: because the water that your fire makes from the ice will put your fire out before in can burn down enough to make any serious hole.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:30 PM
that is right we have bon fires on the ice when fishing at night.
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:30 PM
Oh I see. Did not know that. Is there any other way to stop that from happening, like placing stones underneath the fire or green wood?
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:31 PM
That's stupid, skunkkiller.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:33 PM
what is stupid?
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:37 PM
Was it being sarcastic or just funny- the fire on the ice as you ice fish, just wondering, no offense.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:39 PM
I have been icefishing for 40 years and had lots of fires on the ice the fire will not melt all the way because the ice that does melt will put the fire out on the bottom and it will not melt any more.
People do it all the time Jericho, you feed the bonfire from on top, it never burns through down below. Well, I suppose eventually.
Hey anyone who's in a situation where they might have to ice fish for survival, creeks, rapids, small rivers are all going to ice that's easier to get through than lake ice. Also, a lot of different fish like the faster water.
It's a judgement call, that ice is also going to be less safe than lake ice, but if you can find a feeder creek on a lake, try the ice where it empties into the lake. Does anyone here need to know safety rules for walking on ice?
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:46 PM
4"s of ice will hold a man
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:47 PM
Oh I walked on Gungy Wamp lake when it was frozen many times. I think the Brook trout like calm waters, but don't know any fish that like fast ones. Do you know any species that does? You are right, there was this "pocket" where it was connected to small stream next to the lake, it had much thicker ice that had less bubbles in it, it seemed safer.
Jericho117
12-16-2008, 06:50 PM
My worst fear is falling threw ice, then trying to surface next to the hole, not able to get air to live. I usually used to carry a 8 foot long thick strong wooden pole horizontally so that if I had fell into the ice I could "stop" myself. I think that was wrong thing to do, don't know. Other than that I travel light on ice.
skunkkiller
12-16-2008, 06:54 PM
small mouth bass love fast water gar lke fast water to.
Sourdough
12-16-2008, 07:02 PM
He is correct people do have fires on the ice. Mostly to keep warm an provide cheer, However it also warns pilots landing on the ice that there are humans there. What happens with fire on ice is the red hot coals drop to the bottom, and you end up with a dish shaped basin full of water. Yes, if you worked hard enough you could haul rocks, or dirt for insulation. But when the fire or rocks or dirt go through you have a mess. It sounds strange but just keeping the slivers of ice out of a clean cut hole cut with an ice auger is work enough.
At night you can cover the hole with 2" Dow Board or spruce limbs to slow the refreeze of the opening.
I have used an ax to make holes, but to get a 5" hole at the bottom you need a 48" hole at the top if the ice is say 30" thick.
Chopping thick ice is very, very hard work. It is the type of thing one does once to prove to himself he can do it. Then he buys a cheap hand auger. Which is what we care in the air plane to tie down on the ice.
superior
12-16-2008, 07:18 PM
On a survivor-man episode he said to keep some brush in the hole to keep it from re-freezing over. He used a pine branch to prevent it from freezing overnight. Then he checked his line the following morning.
crashdive123
12-16-2008, 07:19 PM
Yep, that's what Hope just said. I'll bet ole Bear learned it from Hope.
Gray Wolf
12-16-2008, 11:38 PM
Jericho, Brook Trout like fast running streams.
edr730
12-17-2008, 09:50 AM
Around here in the upper part of lower Michigan the big fish are pike. What is no longer legal is snaring and spearing pike during the winter. Yes, it is very cold on the ice in the winter without cover. You could use a blanket because you'll need one to see the pike and you can only see him if it's a little darker. You just dangle a lure or bait in the water until a pike comes up to look at it. You encircle the pike with your wire snare on a pole and pull hard. The other way is to stick him with the spear.
canid
12-17-2008, 11:15 AM
to all of you fisherpersons blessed to live up north, do some fishing for me this winter, eh? i'm two miles from even the snow line and haven't had a nibble through the ice for years.
i gotta settle for catfish next month [no sense buying a liscence this year :D]
skunkkiller
12-17-2008, 11:19 AM
I will caught abuch for you and eat them to
canid
12-17-2008, 11:37 AM
good man [i assume man, no?]
i'll just have to settle for ice free fishing; lows are 33-30. i have 9 rods and haven't been this year.
btw: you shoud be able to trap for crayfish beneath ice aswell, should you not? i know they can stay active in cold water [people trap them in oregon winter long], but i don't know how cold. nothing says warm up and be cheerful like fresh hot shellfish and old bay.
MCBushbaby
12-17-2008, 12:20 PM
would any of you ice fish in a survival sitution?I know we all say we carry fishing kits . but can you caugth a fish in the winter and know how to get bait?
Fairly low energy consumption following the creation of the hole. Drop a line, hook and bait (assuming you have these, of course)... secure stick... go do something else. I'd certainly try it.
skunkkiller
12-17-2008, 07:23 PM
crawfish are active all year round i have see the bigs one i have ever seen looking down ice nole to see if any fish were around this was before fish finders
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