Requirements to be a police officer [Archive]

bulrush

12-03-2008, 01:42 PM

I was curious of the requirements to be a police officer. Do you need a 4 year degree in Law Enforcement, or does it vary by city? Or do you need the 4 year degree only if you want to make detective?

A NYC officer posted that their training program is 5 weeks long. Is that after your college degree? Or do they just pull people off the street, and give them 5 weeks training, and then give them a gun?

Beowolf? What's it like in Cinci?

trax

12-03-2008, 02:32 PM

I think in NYC they actually give you the 5 weeks training if you already have a gun....:D...couldn't resist, anybody have a serious response for bulrush now?

crashdive123

12-03-2008, 02:44 PM

Here it is for where I live. http://www.officer.com/jobs/detail.jsp?id=5505&stateId=null&salary=null&positionId=null&departmentId=null&pageNum=1

crashdive123

12-03-2008, 03:05 PM

Here's something a little closer to where you live. http://www.michigan.gov/mcoles/0,1607,7-229--152397--,00.html

wareagle69

12-03-2008, 08:50 PM

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Chris

12-03-2008, 09:28 PM

Different types will have different requirements, a state police officer will generally have higher requirements than say a local city cop in a small town, and then to be a sheriff deputy in a rural county the requirements tend to be very low.

If I were to go this route, and I had considered it as a career choice, I would go major in criminal justice, maybe psychology as well, and also learn a foreign language, then try to work for the FBI, or one of the other federal agencies. Perhaps pad the resume by joining the reserves in the meantime.

sgtdraino

12-03-2008, 11:14 PM

For North Carolina, all you technically need is Basic Law Enforcement Training (BLET), and a high school degree. BLET is generally offered as a course through area community colleges. It's what we have for police academies. Sometimes candidates can be pre-hired and put through by their departments, but often times applicants have to put themselves through BLET, then try to get a job afterwards. Once you pass BLET and pass the state exam, you get a provisional state law enforcement certification which lasts one year. You have that amount of time to become hired by an agency and sworn in as a law enforcement officer. If you don't get a job by that time, you'll have to go through BLET again.

Of course, BLET just makes you eligible. You will still have to meet whatever other minimum requirements used by the departments you apply to, pass a background investigation and a psychological, and of course appear to be a better candidate than other people applying for the same job.

Often state agencies will have their own special BLET program, or have some sort of training program to supplement regular BLET.

Each state is different, as far as standards go.

bulrush

12-04-2008, 10:45 AM

Interesting, the Michigan MCOLES Physical Fitness test requires men to wear an athletic supporter. I have to wonder why this is a requirement, as I don't have a tendency to have my junk flying in all directions, nor do I expect the Physical Fitness test to involve a trainer kicking me in the nads.

Ole WV Coot

12-04-2008, 10:50 AM

All different even in the same state. Around here, sheriff is elected, no experience only based on who you know. County officers on how you voted and who you are related too. Last name counts a lot. City writes a few tickets, primary job is to drive the Mayor around. My cuz(black sheep of the family) is a KY state trooper/detective. Military record counted more than anything. Lady probation officer friend of wife's had 8 weeks intensive training at State Police academy just to carry a handgun, I fired a couple of dozen rounds and didn't hit the instructor 40 some years ago for my CCW. State is more of a boot camp.

yukon55

12-04-2008, 03:20 PM

there goes my job........or maybe......... i know that you can be 17 to join the us coast guard i only know this because i have a friend that is already in it and one trying to get in

crashdive123

12-04-2008, 04:28 PM

Interesting, the Michigan MCOLES Physical Fitness test requires men to wear an athletic supporter. I have to wonder why this is a requirement, as I don't have a tendency to have my junk flying in all directions, nor do I expect the Physical Fitness test to involve a trainer kicking me in the nads.

Just trying to make sure you can "fill" the job. BTW there is a difference between athletic supporter and cup.

crashdive123

01-03-2009, 12:38 AM

Sarge - Move to General Chat

RBB

01-03-2009, 06:53 AM

Minnesota requires a AA or BA degree in Criminal Justice, skills training, and testing by the Police Officer Standards and Training dept. This is required for all peace officers in the state. Officers from other states can transfer to Minnesota after two years on the job if they can pass the POST test.

mcfd45

01-03-2009, 11:24 AM

I am an EMT in detroilet considering public safety. I know for a fact in MI you need your MCOLES to say you are certifiable. This means you have taken both the physical and written test. The way it works from there is up to you. You can take a police academy on your own dime. But beware you must be on a PD within 1 year of passing or it will expire. Or you can apply at a PD and have them put you thru it. Or you can go like I am considering. I get my paramedic and I apply with genesse county sheriffs as a paramedic officer. The only place in the state that doesn't do the mcoles is the beautiful city of detroit.

A190

01-04-2009, 01:28 PM

Most of what i have read is spot on. It varies by region.

One favorite question I just loved asking during interview boards

"Have you ever been in a fist fight, win loose or draw, with some one?"

I always wanted to hire the person who knew a sock in the jaw was life threatening and they could still function without loosing their temper.

Hell, we are getting kids now who have never in their whole lives even touched a weapon, let alone shot one.............

SS Freak

01-06-2009, 09:01 AM

Most states require that you are a Highschool graduate with no criminal record in your adult life. You must be 21 by the date you graduate the police academy, and must not have done any drugs in your life, or marijuana in the past 3-4 years.

Most placed will prefer and will only hire those with a BA, BS or above even though the standard is lower. And yes a degree will help to make other divisions or rank. Not necessarily because it means you know more, but that you have the initiative to pursue and complete a 4 year degree.

After you go through the ringer and they decide they will hire you, you will attend a police academy. Either put on by your department, region or state. Once you have completed this academy you are officially a LEO in that state. Each department will have additional training that they will put on/ put you through before they cut you loose to the streets. This 5-16 week period may be what you have heard about.

Some departments make you put yourself through academy first and then they will hire you and give you 5-16 more weeks of training before you are on your own. This is not the norm though.

Most of the training really is common sense and just having your wits about you at all times.

SS

Dragonfyre

01-06-2009, 10:07 AM

Damn, I never realized how many cops or wanna-be's were on this forum! In Michigan, I know you have to take the MOCOLES standards stuff but aside from that I still insist you have to be a low IQ retard that has ill regard for other people and be an arrogant a-hole to qualify. Especially Here in WEST MICHIGAN bulrush. You know, Ottawa county! Yeah, as you can plainly see I have a dislike for most police.....especially the ones that I've described above. It' s funny though, I have friends that are cops. Half are peckerheads and know it, the other half knows the other half are peckerheads and can't stand the way they do their job. Also, I hear Genessee county is one of those "I'm the LAW, you better abide" counties that likes to think everyone is a criminal that just hasn't been caught yet. Detroit.........(laughable) what can I say. I can't say much for Detroit PD but I know they'll take retards because a friend (or shall I say "former friend") is going through their "academy" right now and this person is of very low moral character as well as having a nice criminal history. Besides that, he likes to talk about blowing up stuff and that Obama is the anti-Christ.....so you tell me, would you like a cop who is sworn to protect and serve your community patrolling your streets? Maybe once upon becoming an officer he'll start believing in all that reptoid conspiracy crap!

sgtdraino

01-06-2009, 08:00 PM

but I know they'll take retards because a friend (or shall I say "former friend") is going through their "academy" right now and this person is of very low moral character as well as having a nice criminal history.

Can't speak for Detroit, but as for here it really doesn't take all that much to be able to attend the academy. That doesn't mean they'll ever be a cop, though. They will let people attend who would never ever have a reasonable shot at getting certified by the state or hired by an agency. That's a shame really, because it wastes time and resources, including the time and resources of the guy attending the academy. I wish they would try harder to weed unsuitable applicants out at the front of the process.

crashdive123

01-06-2009, 08:56 PM

Damn, I never realized how many cops or wanna-be's were on this forum! In Michigan, I know you have to take the MOCOLES standards stuff but aside from that I still insist you have to be a low IQ retard that has ill regard for other people and be an arrogant a-hole to qualify. Especially Here in WEST MICHIGAN bulrush. You know, Ottawa county! Yeah, as you can plainly see I have a dislike for most police.....especially the ones that I've described above. It' s funny though, I have friends that are cops. Half are peckerheads and know it, the other half knows the other half are peckerheads and can't stand the way they do their job. Also, I hear Genessee county is one of those "I'm the LAW, you better abide" counties that likes to think everyone is a criminal that just hasn't been caught yet. Detroit.........(laughable) what can I say. I can't say much for Detroit PD but I know they'll take retards because a friend (or shall I say "former friend") is going through their "academy" right now and this person is of very low moral character as well as having a nice criminal history. Besides that, he likes to talk about blowing up stuff and that Obama is the anti-Christ.....so you tell me, would you like a cop who is sworn to protect and serve your community patrolling your streets? Maybe once upon becoming an officer he'll start believing in all that reptoid conspiracy crap!

:eek:Sounds like somebody may have had a bad experience with the law?:eek::D

doug1980

01-06-2009, 09:08 PM

To become an Indiana State Trooper you need an Associates Degree, and they have a 13 week Academy. For Sherriffs Departments, at least in Dubois County IN. High School Graduate and a 5 week Academy. For the city of Jasper IN. High School and OJT is all that is required. For Federal Acencies, CIA, FBI, U.S Marshalls a B.A is required and the Academies vary plus there is an age limit of 28-35. But as many have said State and Local agencies vary.

Dragonfyre

01-07-2009, 08:00 AM

:eek:Sounds like somebody may have had a bad experience with the law?:eek::D

Just calling it as I see it. I'm not saying all cops are bad, it's just that the bad ones stain the good ones reputations by doing the stuff they do.

old soldier

01-07-2009, 11:12 AM

to be a local here, you had to have been beaten up in the school yd at least 6 times so you already have a dislike for people,be able to shave your head and walk around like the monkeys on Planet of the apes. be fat enough so you can pull the steering wheel off the car at least once a yr while pulling yourself in.
troopers need an AS degree in CJ and spend a yr at the academy, they're usually more professional and don't need to make a lot of noise to get respect.

ryaninmichigan

01-07-2009, 01:18 PM

Damn, I never realized how many cops or wanna-be's were on this forum! In Michigan, I know you have to take the MOCOLES standards stuff but aside from that I still insist you have to be a low IQ retard that has ill regard for other people and be an arrogant a-hole to qualify. Especially Here in WEST MICHIGAN bulrush. You know, Ottawa county! Yeah, as you can plainly see I have a dislike for most police.....especially the ones that I've described above. It' s funny though, I have friends that are cops. Half are peckerheads and know it, the other half knows the other half are peckerheads and can't stand the way they do their job. Also, I hear Genessee county is one of those "I'm the LAW, you better abide" counties that likes to think everyone is a criminal that just hasn't been caught yet. Detroit.........(laughable) what can I say. I can't say much for Detroit PD but I know they'll take retards because a friend (or shall I say "former friend") is going through their "academy" right now and this person is of very low moral character as well as having a nice criminal history. Besides that, he likes to talk about blowing up stuff and that Obama is the anti-Christ.....so you tell me, would you like a cop who is sworn to protect and serve your community patrolling your streets? Maybe once upon becoming an officer he'll start believing in all that reptoid conspiracy crap!

I live in Genesee County and I know a lot of law enforcement. Including Deputies. I have no issues with them. Maybe you are just one of those people?

Dragonfyre

01-07-2009, 05:53 PM

WTF? is that supposed to mean........."One of those people?" I live in Ottawa but have friends in Genessee CTY and none are criminals. By "one of those people" are you refering to a criminal? Are you insinuating that I'm a bad person? Hardly! I'm a person that believes in human rights. I believe that a person only gets respect if he/she is worthy of respect and has earned it. Are you are "one of those sheeple" that like to kiss cop butt? Okay, now don't make assumptions by calling me "one of those people" and I won't make assumptions that you are a sheep. I had cops do some very bad things to me and my family very recently and the sherriffs dept is lucky I'm not sitting atop of a list called the "Wealthiest People in Michigan".

doug1980

01-07-2009, 06:16 PM

WTF? is that supposed to mean........."One of those people?" I live in Ottawa but have friends in Genessee CTY and none are criminals. By "one of those people" are you refering to a criminal? Are you insinuating that I'm a bad person? Hardly! I'm a person that believes in human rights. I believe that a person only gets respect if he/she is worthy of respect and has earned it. Are you are "one of those sheeple" that like to kiss cop butt? Okay, now don't make assumptions by calling me "one of those people" and I won't make assumptions that you are a sheep. I had cops do some very bad things to me and my family very recently and the sherriffs dept is lucky I'm not sitting atop of a list called the "Wealthiest People in Michigan".

I agree respect should be earned, however, some jobs, positions, etc. automatically should be respected. At least until they do something wrong but even then it should be on an individual basis. If one or two cops did something wrong, that doesn't mean all cops are bad. Regulation is needed everywhere and without those who serve in these capacities this world would be a scary place.

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