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FVR
12-01-2008, 10:34 PM
With all this hoopla about survival kits. Those planning on their personal survival event, let's just say you, right now, this very minute, this one speck of time, were pulled from your computer and dropped 150 miles in the middle of the mountains.

On the way out the door you grab one thing, what would it be?

Question 1..What is in your pocket, right now?

Question 2..What would you grab, only one thing and don't go saying "duh, my survival kit" survival kits not allowed.


What'cha got, what'cha gonna grab?

laughing beetle
12-01-2008, 10:37 PM
my zippo lighter is in my pocket, along with my cell phone and my wallet. if I had time I would grab a blade from my car.

FVR
12-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Right now, this very minute I am sitting here, I have a pair of uncomfortable boots, jeans, no shirt, in my pockets I have my wallet with one bandaid (glad I checked, kiddy's need more), I have a set of keys with a home made woodsman torch sparker, keys on a one of them thar imitation repelling clips. The other pocket I have a Gerber folder that I've had since 95.

It's snowing and raining outside, temp is about 25 degrees, as I am slowly lifted out of my chair, I grab one thing............................................. ...............

My wool blanky.

crashdive123
12-01-2008, 10:40 PM
Right now I've got nothing in my pockets (wearing sweat pants). Since I'm assuming that Sarge's motorhome is not allowed, I'm grabbing a sattelite phone.

RangerXanatos
12-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Umm, let me wait till tomorrow morning when I'm normally dressed before I answer. Lol.

FVR
12-01-2008, 10:45 PM
LOL...............

Okay, somebody's has be sitting there.................NEKKED................

crashdive123
12-01-2008, 10:48 PM
If there is, I really don't want to know (TMI) who is posting while wearing only their birthday suit.

nell67
12-01-2008, 10:48 PM
I have a bic and a smallish folder in my pocket always,keys are hanging from a belt loop on one of those pretend carabiners FVR mentioned,I'd grab my coat,its long,water repellent,down filled,and in the pocket is my cell phone.

Glad you didn't say pulled outta the bed at night,cuz then,I'd be SOL.

RangerXanatos
12-01-2008, 10:50 PM
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Just think of Rick going up the stairs, but skinnier :eek:
How many of yall scrolled down? :p

nell67
12-01-2008, 10:52 PM
NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED
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Just think of Rick going up the stairs, but skinnier :eek:
How many of yall scrolled down? :p

That was just wrong......

klkak
12-01-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm sitting here in a pair of flannel lined Carhart pants, t-shirt, wool socks and 100 gram thinsulate water proof hiking boots.

Right front pocket - Keys to truck, Benchmade folding knife with 2 3/4in. blade

Left front pocket - Rediedge knife sharpener, small swiss army knife, chapstik, vile w/1 dose of meds

Right thigh pocket - Cell phone

Left thigh pocket - Fire steel

Left rear pocket - wallet

Riggers belt - Leatherman supertool 2000, 3w led light

Hanging from belt loop - Dakota watch

On my way out the door I would probably grab my parka.

rebel
12-01-2008, 11:37 PM
1. Keys, firesteel, wallet, leatherman on me.
2. I'd grab a cold weather sleeping bag.

Sourdough
12-02-2008, 01:01 AM
It is -6*F below just now and going to cool off tonight. The one thing would be a Woods Brand 4 star sleeping robe. But I would die if I left the bag. Wearing full long johns plus heavy hooded sweat shirt, and sweat pants, and Down booties. this is what I sleep in, the cabin will cool off to 40'something tonight, and the bathroom is outdoors. The bottom line is drop me 150 miles out and I'll live only as long as I can stay in the sleeping robe (Bag)...:(

Sarge47
12-02-2008, 01:04 AM
Just my knife & the clothes on my back...we don' need no stinking survival kits!:eek::rolleyes::D:cool:

Oh Brad...Oh Adrian.....

Badawg
12-02-2008, 01:32 AM
Well if you were to grab me at the office today and checked my pockets:

1 large lock back Victorinox folder. This is the one with a saw and goes everywhere.
1 bic, 1 tube burts lip balm, Keys with leatherman Micro scissors, and a photon light. some Mentholyptus. Wallet with a bunch of cards and a stainless Steel Business card from my friend bender, which could make a great Scraper and signaling device.

Wearing a pair of Doc Maartens, Wrangler jeans, a tee and a red flannel shirt. On the way out I would grab my coat du jour, which is a black full length duster with a rain cape and home made polar fleece liner vest. In the pocket was an orange, a granola bar and my covered coffee cup from 7/11. Not the disposible, but the 20 OZ refill cup.

BTW, You would have to fly me a LOOOOONG way to find 150 uninterrupted miles of forest... Desert no problem though...

canid
12-02-2008, 01:40 AM
sitting here, it's about 70 in here, so i'm wearing a tee-shirt, thin cotton p.j. pants and no socks. there is nothing in my pockets.

i probably grab my full sized sleeping bag. it's not the warmer bag [0 deg. mummy bag], but it stays warm enough even if wet, and since it's not the mummy bag, i could more easily wrap up in it while walking.

i'd like to choose my knife, but at this point, the bag seems more practical and there is lots of stone in the mountains around me.

an aside:

i'm back in butte county, so i'm really only 50 miles from the ishi wilderness. could i be dropped there? and while i'm on the subject, aren't there people on this board who don't have mountains within 150 miles of them? couldn't i just foreward the surpluss 100 miles of chopper fuel to them?

klkak
12-02-2008, 02:05 AM
The only thing I miss about California is the Sierra's. Plumas National Forest and the surrounding wilderness is where I grew up. Feather Falls, Little Grass Valley, Bucks Lake, Brush Creek, Little North Fork of the Feather river, Bald Eagle, Seven Falls are some of the places I loved.

Badawg
12-02-2008, 02:14 AM
The only thing I miss about California is the Sierra's. Plumas National Forest and the surrounding wilderness is where I grew up. Feather Falls, Little Grass Valley, Bucks Lake, Brush Creek, Little North Fork of the Feather river, Bald Eagle, Seven Falls are some of the places I loved.

That is some beautiful country. My brother used to live in Challenge, but moved to "civilsation in Calaveras county. He is in Avery now.

klkak
12-02-2008, 03:19 AM
My Grandfather was the fire control officer for the Plumas National Forest. He used to drag me all over those mountains with him.

In the late 60's to early 70's the Forest Service was updating their maps. Grandpa purposely left a good many things off of the new maps because he knew when folks found out about them they would be ruined.

The summer he retired he took me on a month and a half tour of the forest he spent close to 30 years protecting. It was without a doubt the most amazing time in my life.

He took me to a cave with a log wall built across it with a door and a window near an unnamed creek. Inside there were the things you would expect to find in a prospectors cabin. Including the skeleton of the prospector laying on the bed.

I asked him how the man died. We walked over to the bed and he pointed to the piece of arrow shaft with stone tip in the mans ribcage.

The whole scene appeared to be very very old.

Sometimes I think it would be nice to try and find the places he took me that summer. Who knows, maybe one day...,

crashdive123
12-02-2008, 08:10 AM
Sounds like it would be a great adventure for you and your grandkids some day.

rockymtnchief
12-02-2008, 08:43 AM
I have 400 gram Thinsulate boots, Carhart pants, cell phone, can wrench, snips, hooked razor knife, Leatherman, and a lighter. Since I only have a t-shirt on I'd have to grap my jacket. Luckily, a pair of gloves and a compass are in the pocket. I keep a compass in every coat, 2 in each backpack, and 1 in each vehicle.

ericka
12-02-2008, 05:33 PM
cell phone,folding knife, money holder,bic lighter are in my pockets.
i would grab my coat in it is hat,gloves,compass,mini fristaid kit,a multitool,and firesteel

Sam
12-02-2008, 05:46 PM
Hello all, it's 28 degrees F and snowing. I am wearing Jeans and a t-shirt, with cotton socks and boots, in my pockets are a SOG folder, bic lighter, button compass, whistle, keys, change, key ring size magnesium barw/striker, cell phone, led flash light, 20 ft of 2mm braided nylon cord, and a bandana with survival instructions on it.
I would grab my coat, I have a small poncho, match safe with life boat matches, an other led light, a stocking hat (touk) gloves, small roll of duct tape, a bottle of super glue, and a leatherman wave in the pockets.
This is the stuff I keep on me everyday, people ask why I carry all this 'crap' and I ask them why they have car insurance. Both are things you don't use every day. lol
-Sam

snakeman
12-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Right now I have on hiking boots, cotton socks. blue jeans with a shrade pocket knife. a sweatshirt/jacket, and a hat.I can build shelter, hopefully get fodd and water, I can't start a friction fire... I should keep a lighter on me! It would be tough survival, especially when its cold and raining.

Pict
12-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Stuff in my coat or on my body: Spyderco Endura, Bic, LED flashlight, Keys to the truck, Kahr K-9, 2 spare magazines (22 rounds 115 grain +p 9mm), Wallet. Now if someone would please pick me up and drop me off in the wilderness 150 miles away I would be grateful. Mac

trax
12-02-2008, 06:44 PM
Well if you want to get back out....crash took my answer, sat. phone.

Stuff I have in my pocket right now, Bic lighter, keys, wallet, knife. Since I'm in the office there's nothing here particularly worth grabbing. If I was being rushed out of the house I'd grab better boots than what I'm wearing right now and my down filled coat.

dolfan87
12-02-2008, 08:56 PM
Wearing jeans with a belt, converse shoes, wool socks, and a cotton t-shirt. In my pockets are my iPhone, wallet, and a Benchmade 2.5" folding knife.

I would grab my down sleeping bag. I know others have said that as well, but I can survive three days with no water, 3 weeks with no food, but I would die in three hours of hypothermia.

FVR
12-02-2008, 09:15 PM
Some of ya'll have the hang of this. Now others, one article along with what is in your pockets. Not a jacket, coat, survival kit. One thing.

Now, after a few posts, I walked back to check my Dickies blanket lined canvas jacket and came to the conclusion, I'd still would grab my wool blanky.

laughing beetle
12-02-2008, 09:39 PM
I have been thinking about that wool blanket... might be better than the blade...

BruceZed
12-02-2008, 09:55 PM
A Striker, the means to light a fire is almost alway paramount: http://boreal.net/Research/fire-lighting-zirconium-striker.shtml, remeber that fire is the "Great Equalizer"

FVR
12-02-2008, 10:06 PM
Not necessarily. In my opening, my situation was, no shirt, it's 25 degrees or less, and snowy and rainy.

Big deal, I have a way to start a fire, everything is wet. You can always make a fire one way or the other. My keys have a homemade torch sparker on it, but it won't do me no good until everything is dry.

A fire may be paramount in some situations, but it can also be a breaker in others.

An example of wool. I use to trout fish in December down the road. I did not have hip boots or waders, I did however have a pair of Air Force cold weather boots, the ones that go up to your knees with a 1/4 inch wool insert.

I would wade into the water, in Dec., up to my knees and fish for hours. Yes my feet were wet, the water was very cold, but the wool kept the heat in even though it was wet. Now, after I got out of water, I was very surprised at how my feet stayed very warm, while soaked.

Runs With Beer
12-02-2008, 10:14 PM
You guys are a lot better off than me, T shirt, Boxers, sox, Smokes and a Bic, I would grab a k****, Darn foiled again.

Runs With Beer
12-02-2008, 10:16 PM
O yea Its going to freeze here tonight, Dang and again!

FVR
12-02-2008, 10:18 PM
Ya gonna be ccccoooollllldddddddddd.

tsitenha
12-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Actually all I have around me is a blanket (just got out of the shower), might stop for shoes though, -15c now.

canid
12-02-2008, 11:30 PM
yeah, and i notice how many people just happened to be wearing wool socks, knives, boots, firearms and mini survival kits at that very moment, and at home... what kind of emergency are these people expecting?

RangerXanatos
12-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Something to where I have to run up the stairs! :eek: :D

dolfan87
12-03-2008, 12:44 AM
yeah, and i notice how many people just happened to be wearing wool socks, knives, boots, firearms and mini survival kits at that very moment, and at home... what kind of emergency are these people expecting?

Well I ALWAYS have my folding knife in my pocket. The wool socks are because I got a pair from an outdoor outfitter and loved them. Bought a bunch more and now that's all I wear.

chiye tanka
12-03-2008, 01:11 AM
At this very minute, (note time of post) I've got:
Right front pocket/Spyderco Tenacious and CS Stockman
Right rear/wallet
Left front/Boker Subcom and cell phone clipped to pocket

Of course I'm barefoot, in cargo shorts and a t-shirt, and just came in from walking the dog (yes I'm in FL, but it is 34* outside).

I'm going with boots.:D

klkak
12-03-2008, 01:47 AM
yeah, and i notice how many people just happened to be wearing wool socks, knives, boots, firearms and mini survival kits at that very moment, and at home... what kind of emergency are these people expecting?

Today I went to the range to check zero on my .338 (Oh yea I got a new Leupold put on it today). After that I went over to the shop to do some work on the boat. (We are heading out at O-dark-30 for 5 days of hunting in PWS) The temp at the shop was 5*. I just got back from the shop about 30 minutes ago.

Right at this moment I am wearing 2 pairs of wool socks, flannel lined carhart pant, cotton t-shirt, zip up hooded sweat jacket.

In my pockets and on my belt I have:

Benchmade folder with 2 3/4in blade
Keys
Cell phone
Rediedge knife sharpener
Small Swiss army knife
Chapstik
Firesteel
Wallet
Leatherman Supertool 2000
3wat led flash light
Small vile with one dose of my meds
Dakota watch

I did take my sidearm off when I came in the house. But it is in the right pocket of my carhart parka that I was wearing today. My boots are in the entry with my parka.

Sarge47
12-03-2008, 02:15 AM
...for me it was when I read the book: "The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon" by Stephen King. When ever I'm home on the computer I wear military Poly-thermal long johns; (we keep the furnace turned down to conserve so we dress warmer.) I wear military BDU's with a small survival kit in one of the cargo pockets & forget leaving it behind, that'll only happen if I'm dead.(it's like American Express, I never leave home without it.) You might also remember the survival kit between my ears! I also have more items in the ever present fanny pack I constantly wear along with the multi-tool & Buck folder on my belt. I'd grab my Military Gore-Tex field jacket with poly-fleece jacket liner on my way out the door. On my feet I wear heavy military wicking socks & hiking boots. Anybody tries to keep me from grabbing more gear before I leave gets the buisness end of my knife. I don't believe in these "1 item only" scenarios, as I've mentioned before.:cool:

Badawg
12-03-2008, 02:56 AM
I'm with Sarge. You limited me to one item, and that was my coat. Not my fault there was breakfast in the pocket. I also would have grabbed my commute bag, and would be much better off because of it...

canid
12-03-2008, 03:16 AM
Not all of us work 9-5, nor are we all at home. Tonight and last night I have exactly what I posted with me. The pistol ,ammo and uniform is a job requirement. The only foot gear that I wear unless jogging is boots, and I never go any where without my buck folding knife. This post does help me realise that need to carry a few more thing on me at all times.

browsing the internet from work... for shame... also, is your company hiring?

rockymtnchief
12-03-2008, 10:31 AM
yeah, and i notice how many people just happened to be wearing wool socks, knives, boots, firearms and mini survival kits at that very moment, and at home... what kind of emergency are these people expecting?

In my case, I was at the end of 31 hour shift. I came home, slept two hours, and went back to work. My boots never had a chance to come off.

trax
12-03-2008, 12:26 PM
LMFAO:):), There are benefits to being in management. To answer your question not at the moment

exactly, if I wasn't here I'd have to be actually working...yikes. I'm not hiring either....:rolleyes:

Sourdough
12-03-2008, 12:43 PM
Interesting that:

A.) Everyone say, "I am not afraid to die"

and

B.) Everyone has survival gear all over there body, in every pocket, bag and body orifice, on a string around their neck........Yea right, not afraid to die.

Sarge47
12-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Interesting that:

A.) Everyone say, "I am not afraid to die"

and

B.) Everyone has survival gear all over there body, in every pocket, bag and body orifice, on a string around their neck........Yea right, not afraid to die.

I'm not afraid to die, it's the "getting there" that bothers me.:rolleyes:

crashdive123
12-03-2008, 02:55 PM
There is a big difference between "not afraid to die" and "wanting to die".

Sourdough
12-03-2008, 04:17 PM
You have to admit survivalist are not normal. Normal might be one first aid kit, or maybe and it is a stretch one survival kit. People with more than one survival kit on their body are not normal. And Bug out bags for buggin'in....???? It would be like having multiple seat belts on at one time.

And for the record, I am afraid to die, not afraid of being dead. And every time I have been in a bad spot, I never say, well it does not matter if I live or die, what ever happens will be fine with me........NO, I fight like hell to not die. I fight to stay alive, that is not the behavior of someone "not afraid to die".

crashdive123
12-03-2008, 05:16 PM
I agree that there is a fine line between "survivalist" and "preparedness". Sometimes the line is blurred, crossed or even ignored. As far as BOB's - hope I never need to use mine. I have the comfort of knowing that I or my wife can grab a bag with a few essentials in it to help get through what will probably be a trying time. Agree with you on not being afraid to die.

wareagle69
12-03-2008, 09:28 PM
on my belt is my swedish fire steel, my wave leather man and my buck fixed blade knife in my left front pocket is my coughlins folding saw and a mini led light with compass in my right front pocket is a small vial of advil and a bic lighter
i am currently wearing my carhart pants with long johns on under with heavy socks and my hiking boot i have a thermal under shirt t- shirt over that then a button down work shirt with two front pockets with my id and credit cards and money and pad of paper then over thart i have on a carhart work sweater. this is the way i am dressed about 18 hours a day even on days off the afore mentioned gear on my belt is always with me
if i had to grab only one thing it would be my wool cap to keep my noggin warm and conserve heat
i am not afraid to die i just don't want to yet and will fight tooth and nail to prolong that inevitable day as long as possible there is still so much i want to do

Runs With Beer
12-03-2008, 09:48 PM
Today I went to the range to check zero on my .338 (Oh yea I got a new Leupold put on it today). After that I went over to the shop to do some work on the boat. (We are heading out at O-dark-30 for 5 days of hunting in PWS) The temp at the shop was 5*. I just got back from the shop about 30 minutes ago.

Right at this moment I am wearing 2 pairs of wool socks, flannel lined carhart pant, cotton t-shirt, zip up hooded sweat jacket.

In my pockets and on my belt I have:

Benchmade folder with 2 3/4in blade
Keys
Cell phone
Rediedge knife sharpener
Small Swiss army knife
Chapstik
Firesteel
Wallet
Leatherman Supertool 2000
3wat led flash light
Small vile with one dose of my meds
Dakota watch

I did take my sidearm off when I came in the house. But it is in the right pocket of my carhart parka that I was wearing today. My boots are in the entry with my parka.

Dang, how big are you?

Runs With Beer
12-03-2008, 09:49 PM
Ah...Hopeak is on to something...
But i do not think that being a survivalist, or being prepared has anything to do with being afraid or not to die.

Where i come from, the term "survivalist" does not even exist...preparedness is a concept we abandoned after WWII...the wilderness or what is left of it is not a force by which one can measure its courage or its adaptability, but more of an extension of home in the form of campgrounds.
Yet, most are afraid to die.

Of course, we should mention here that many levels of intensity can be observed within fear. Most are afraid to die but this fear is not a paralyzing one...this fear does not govern our day to day business, and a giant gap can be found between thinking about preparedness and agoraphobia.

So i have a BOB, a "survival kit", a few firearms...extra food and water at home, and i always sport a knife. This is not a sign of fear regarding death.
Now i don't know about having 20 survival kits, enough ammo to last 300 years and more guns than the entire Belgium military. Paranoia maybe...fear of death...who knows.

What i often see though...is a certain pattern within our community. Not centered around death and the fear of it, but more around the feeling of "having to do it by myself, cause no one was ever here for me, and no one will ever be". Does that make sense ?
Most of us had to rely on ourselves from an early age...no safety net but the one we make for ourselves.
Maybe even some feelings of abandonment.
Safety nets are as varied as guns...they all serve the same purpose, but are all "personal". The most common safety nets are provided by our parents, by family, emotional safety nets, physical ones where food, shelter, safety and love is provided...allowing us to grow at a normal pace...
If you do not get those as a child...you will start to believe that no one on earth but you yourself can provide for yourself.

Our community is made up of hard working individuals, that do not believe in other's "help", the government for example.
We grow up knowing that we have to take care of ourselves cause no one else will.
Often, we start work young, rejecting school and any other form of "providers"...most join the military...we all know why.

I could go on...but all that to say that fear of death is rarely why.
In fact, most of us would rather die, than be "refugees" for example...well...what is a refugee, if not someone believing, trusting, that a safety net will be provided for them ?

My safety net is me.
My safety net is what i do for myself and my love ones.
My safety net does not rest on the government...on a system.
My safety net is a bag, a blanket, a knife and a gun...and not my governor.
My safety net is made by me, and for me...it isn't much, but my needs are less than most.
My safety net is me, because this world is fubar...and because few if not none were there to provide one that made sense to me.
I go in the mountains, i go far away, because when i am here, with others, i remember that others were never there for me...
I go alone...and i know, that only in death, will i really be "self-sufficient".
Man you type good and fast!

Aurelius95
12-04-2008, 08:59 PM
FVR - good post, I liked reading the responses. I'm currently wearing a cotton sweatshirt, cotton sweatpants, ankle length cotton socks, moccasin slippers. I have nothing in my pockets.

If I could take one thing with me out the door, it'd be a wool blanket.

FVR
12-04-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm just a sitting here, old boots, jeans, belt, no shirt and I have my leatherman on my side.

Temp is about 35 degrees and raining.

As I get yanked out the door by forces unknown to me, I again grab my wool blanky.


Oh wait, hey, I have an old tissue in my pocket.


Gonna be a cold wet night.

laughing beetle
12-04-2008, 09:58 PM
come up north and visit...i promise its colder, wetter, and a lot snowier up in my neck of the woods. I'm gonna spend the weekend shoveling again, and again, and again...... gonna need lots of coffee...

Runs With Beer
12-04-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm just a sitting here, old boots, jeans, belt, no shirt and I have my leatherman on my side.

Temp is about 35 degrees and raining.

As I get yanked out the door by forces unknown to me, I again grab my wool blanky.


Oh wait, hey, I have an old tissue in my pocket.


Gonna be a cold wet night.

What do you mean by old?

Dave Johns
12-05-2008, 05:54 AM
interesting thread. I figured i would put my 2 cents in. At the moment I am wearing jeans, a hooded cotten sweatshirt, and moisture wick socks. In my pockets are my wallet with cardlight, some cash, and my debit card. Also my keychain with a firesteel. Lastly but most importantly my crst folder is in my front pocket as (almost) always.

One item? Can a pair of boots count as 1 thing? 'cause I HATE walking around barefoot, and REALLY hate having cold feet. Its 26 degrees outside (cold for these parts) and I would be really ticked off in only a few seconds without proper footwear.

Also, I feel the need to comment on the whole matter of preparedness. Whether one is preparing for a really bad winter, societal collapse, or Zombie invasion, the mere act of thinking about and preparing for the unexpected can only be commended. If someone takes the time to read thru these forums, whether they agree or not, they will improve their greatest survival tool: their mind. I had a number of preconcieved notions and plans about "survivalism" earlier this year - some of which have fallen by the wayside, and some of which I am more confident in than ever. But at least I have given the issues my due consideration, thought, and practice. Most of the people here in this forum can say the same. Now whether they live it every day, or simply do the thought exercises while sitting in a cubicle matters not. If the need ever arises, we will be better prepared.

Aurelius95
12-05-2008, 07:27 AM
Good post, Dave Johns. I agree with your observations about survival, and how preparedness affects others differently.

wareagle69
12-05-2008, 08:37 AM
yes indeed dave johns a good observation, i too have changed my point of view here in the last 18 months-les strouds says it well in his new book survive he points out and rightly so that a couple of folks who regularly watched his show used techniques he had pointed out to survive and they credited him with that, now the most important tool they had was their brain. that is what will get you thru any thing in life

crashdive123
12-05-2008, 02:49 PM
Can i disagree ?



No :D :D :D :D

Dave Johns
12-05-2008, 02:55 PM
Can i disagree ?

The average IQ among humans today is of 100.




If the average ever drops to below 100, I am leaving.


(there is a joke there. :) )

backtobasics
12-05-2008, 03:17 PM
The only thing I miss about California is the Sierra's. Plumas National Forest and the surrounding wilderness is where I grew up. Feather Falls, Little Grass Valley, Bucks Lake, Brush Creek, Little North Fork of the Feather river, Bald Eagle, Seven Falls are some of the places I loved.

I live right near there in Susanville. Its a little chilly this morning, but not like Alaska. I spent a year in Alaska back in the mid 80s.


The one thing i would grab is my boots, or is that two things:rolleyes:
I'm still in my PJs so there is nothing in my pockets.

wareagle69
12-05-2008, 05:37 PM
no you can't disagree
the brain covers the function of the body we are not using a microscope here what i am saying is many folks have died with packs full of gear that they can and can't use we are talking about average joe out in the bush mr hawking would not be in the bush am i going to fast here for ya. if you take the time to psyco analyaze everything you will be stuck in the same rut for years while the person that can engage his brain and survive with what ever he has to work with. any thing else professor

wareagle69
12-05-2008, 06:01 PM
is that the best insult you have? in the wild my brain does not need to process run on sentneces or improper punctuation or grammer or spelling i leave that to all the useless boobs who have nothing better to do with their time what i process in the wild is the most effiecnt way to accomplish my mission or goals
but i digress i do not wish to insult frank by hijacking his thread so get back onto topic of what one thing would you take to the bush right now dr fraud

wareagle69
12-05-2008, 07:59 PM
as with every challenge that comes my way my reply is always the same come to my world, of course no one ever does but the door is always open

nell67
12-05-2008, 10:50 PM
I'd like to be a fly on the wall for THAT visit......:rolleyes:

tsitenha
12-05-2008, 11:22 PM
No you don't, they shoot at flies on the wall up there :eek:

HOP
12-08-2008, 07:46 AM
IMHO whiile knowledge is a good thing most of the most of the critters in the woods have fairly small brains but get by remarkably well also I didn't know there was going to be a written test in ordere to survive.
In reference to the OP I walk around with an asortment of guns , knifes and sharpener ,fire starting devices and compasses ,things I find useful in my daily hikes on the trail. If I knew that the pucker factor was going to tighten up some I would grab going out the door the crank starter for my fully equiped Goverment Mule LOL. Although the wool blanky sounds thoughtful

trax
12-08-2008, 01:01 PM
No you don't, they shoot at flies on the wall up there :eek:

the good shooters just wound them.

I agree with Remy, you guys. This is important when people make a huge deal out of that rule of threes...you can survive three days without water for instance...you can actually survive longer than that without water, but do you think you're capable of functioning normally? So, apply same to three weeks without food, yeah you're alive but you're staggering around out in the wild someplace bumping off trees and rocks. The body needs the brain, the brain needs the body.

And Remy...if my punctuation and grammar weren't ok thppptttt:p :D

larmus
12-08-2008, 03:12 PM
in pockets:
wallet
cell phone
keys on two carabiner
lighter
winchester multi-tool w/ attachment bits and small gerber box cutter in the win. case

wearing:
hiking boot type shoes with 550 paracord laces
jeans
shirt
single stack 1911 on right side and two extra clips on other side (az free carry state)

...and as im leaving to be sucked into this vortex... my jacket... cause its raining outside right now...

Badawg
12-08-2008, 06:55 PM
I don't find having several BOBs around and a kit on my person odd at all. I do earthquake research in an earthquake prone area. I'm not to concerned about the end-of-the-world... But the chance of a bad earthquake screwing stuff up around here for months is a true scenario. And if we expect the same treatment from FEMA that New Orleans got... We are screwed. With that in mind each car has a 3 day pack to get home with, and I carry a small kit with me as I use public transit and may very well need to walk home 25 miles, across a city in anarchy.

What I find odd is people that don't prepare... and then expect to be bailed out...

Manio
12-08-2008, 07:26 PM
In my pockets: Cell Phone, House Key, Ipod, Wallet, Lighter
1 Item To Grab: My Coat since it's like -7.

I'm wearing some socks, jeans and a band shirt. And my studded belt, other than that...nothing.

FVR
12-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Tonight, tenny's, jeans, nothing in my pockets, no shirt, and if I was all of a sudden pulled from this place, again, I grab my wool blanky.

As far as VW's post, he has a good point. One said that many have died with a full pack, but others have survived with nothing. Why?

You can try to digest the fight or flight theory, you can disect the brain and conclude that knowledge is power.

You can also break it down to heart.

If ya ain't got the heart, ya dead. Many a person has survived without the knowledge because they are just too da mn stuborn to roll over and die. Well, give certain situations. I mean, if your head gets lopped off, you're SOL, unless you're Rambo and have your sewing kit.

Oh, speaking of sewing. Have ya ever really tried sewing yourself, or someone else without sutures? It's a beotch.

nell67
12-09-2008, 10:30 PM
tonight,jeans,with knife,coins,bic,chapstick,in front pocket,cell in case and keys attached to belt,hoodie,moccasin boots,with rabbit fur trim,still would have to grab the long coat,water repllent,(not proof) but can wrap up in it if I need to.

crashdive123
12-09-2008, 10:54 PM
OK - I知 not saying I知 paranoid:eek:, but since there is now the possibility of getting teleported from my chair and into the wilderness:cool: I now wear my winter clothing 24/7 with all of the survival stuff I can fit in my pockets and on my belt. Since the temps are kind of moderate tonight I値l grab some coffee so I can have some in the morning. (wearing canteen and cup on belt):D

laughing beetle
12-09-2008, 10:57 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

Seppo Karhu
12-10-2008, 01:13 PM
Right now:

CF combat clothing (thermakl undershirt), with gortex jacket on chair (grab that as I leave).
Pockets: Wallet, day planner, various sheets of folded paper, Ball point gel pen, corkscrew/bottle opener, whet stone, Bic lighter, tylenol, 2 lip balms, one moisturizer tube, magnesium fire block, and flint, cigar nipper, keys, nail clippers, Leatherman supertool, combat gloves, sodoku book, cigarettes, signaling mirror, beret, fivestar notebook, 6 more pens, black sharpie, small coil notepad, harmonica, two id badges (one with clip), mine awareness foldout pam, ziplock bag, 3.25" computer disk, pocket comb, driver log booko, pocket Art of War, dakota caribiner watch/compass, 26 cents and a red lens for my minimag-light (absent).

reluctantpawn
12-10-2008, 01:47 PM
I would grab my Chris Reeves Mountaineer. The hollow handle holds a firesteel, cotton balls dental floss and a few fishing hooks. With this I am capable of building shelter, fire, and food. What is carried in my head will help me to gather water and supply something in which to carry said water. By the way how long will I be gone? This may be a survival forum but many here seem to be lacking in practical application of what they may have learned.

reluctantpawn

nell67
12-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Be careful of any knife that is not full tang.

reluctantpawn
12-10-2008, 01:59 PM
Chris Reeves knives are made from one piece of machined D2tool steel. They are indestructable as far as I am concerned. I have carried one form or another of his knives for over 15 years with never a mishap. I have and will continue to stake my life on his products. Check out his website: chrisreeves.com. There is absolutely nothing else I would rather carry. Miltary tested and proven.

reluctantpawn

trax
12-10-2008, 02:14 PM
Hey rp, I checked out that website and all I got was a bunch of really good outdoor photography.

reluctantpawn
12-10-2008, 02:20 PM
oops my bad:eek:try chrisreevesknives.com

reluctantpawn

Sam
12-10-2008, 02:21 PM
Be careful of any knife that is not full tang.

Hi Nell, the knife line he is talking about is solid. The handle is the 'tang' it is machined from bar stock. Very solid. I say this because you gave good advice based on 90% of the knives on the market today, but this knife is not common and I just wanted to explain it for the members that don't know about it.

P.S. How is the new home shaping up?
-Sam

Cleankill47
12-10-2008, 03:40 PM
Right now I'm wearing bootcut jeans with a solid leather 1 1/4" belt, a t-shirt under a long-sleeve camo shirt, a grey hoodie, boot socks, my Rocky boots, and my felt Charlie Horse Ghost Town hat.

Left hip pocket: Cell phone, $16, Case yellow trapper

Right hip pocket: Spyderco Delica plain edge, mini Buck trapper, change, my Battalion's challenge coin, full pack of Marlboro Red 100's and a new full-sized Bic lighter.

Right hip: Glock 21 in a paddle holster, full 13rd mag +1 in the tube.
Behind the Glock on my belt is my Cold Steel Bushman knife in a sheath)

Left hip: 2 extra 13 rd mags in a paddle holder (all mags are loaded with Winchester SXZ HP's) Behind spare mags on the belt is a Leatherman Wave in a sheath.

Clipped to my belt loop I have my keys on a carabiner, and two mini multitools I just got at wally world last month: a Utilikey, and a swisstech mini plier/screwdriver, both clamp on a keyring.

Left rear pocket: medium/fine Arkansas stone in a pouch.

Right rear pocket: Wallet, multitool in the shape of a credit card, Gerber mini Ridge knife


Considering that 150 miles away from me is the Great Smoky mountain range, I would grab my Heritage Rough Rider .22 convertible in it's case, which also carries 200 rounds of ammo, a Cold Steel Finn Wolf knife, and my cleaning kit. I would be able to take any small game (of which there is an abundance up there), and build whatever shelter and procure any water, game, tools, etc. I would need.

Also, the main reason I carry so many things with me normally is because I'm around a lot of woods, and I sometimes have to find pets or people so I have to be ready for anything, because I never know when I could be gone for a few hours up to a day or two...

I do have a question, though. Is the purpose of this exercise to get home or stay where you are until you have to leave? Because you bet your pirate booty I would get home as fast as possible to be with my beautiful bride-to-be and our baby whom she is still carrying....

crashdive123
12-10-2008, 03:52 PM
I took it as an exercise in priorites. When you read the post, wearing what you were at the instant you read it, what one thing would you take to get you through the night if you were magically whisked away.

klkak
12-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Cleankill, I hope you don't fall in the water. you'll sink like a boat anchor.

crashdive123
12-10-2008, 07:54 PM
He forgot to mention the auto inflatable PFD.:D

trax
12-11-2008, 10:50 AM
Cleankill, I hope you don't fall in the water. you'll sink like a boat anchor.

Y'know, there was another fella here a long time back that I gave very similar advice to for the same reason, can't recall his name but I'm really wondering what happened to him now.

crashdive123
12-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Too much gear?.....never!

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1458/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1458-1455.jpg

nell67
12-13-2008, 07:59 AM
Hi Nell, the knife line he is talking about is solid. The handle is the 'tang' it is machined from bar stock. Very solid. I say this because you gave good advice based on 90% of the knives on the market today, but this knife is not common and I just wanted to explain it for the members that don't know about it.

P.S. How is the new home shaping up?

-Sam

Sam,the house is a royal PIMA,I have had the company out several times now because whomever wired the pos didn't know what they were doing,and obviously there was no QC done before it left manufacturing,the closet in the master bedroom was wired to 2 different breakers,causing it to kick the breakers,the furnace was wired backwards,3 wires,2 were supposed to be wired to a 60 amp breaker,and the other to a 30 amp,they reversed that 2 to the 30,and 1 to the 60amp,the vent over the stove:wired wrong,the outdoor plug,wired wrong,it's been "fun" to say the least :rolleyes:.

Sam
12-13-2008, 09:25 AM
Sam,the house is a royal PIMA,I have had the company out several times now because whomever wired the pos didn't know what they were doing,and obviously there was no QC done before it left manufacturing,the closet in the master bedroom was wired to 2 different breakers,causing it to kick the breakers,the furnace was wired backwards,3 wires,2 were supposed to be wired to a 60 amp breaker,and the other to a 30 amp,they reversed that 2 to the 30,and 1 to the 60amp,the vent over the stove:wired wrong,the outdoor plug,wired wrong,it's been "fun" to say the least :rolleyes:.

You should pack a bag and go live at their house until it's fixed, that might speed up the process.
-Sam

chiangmaimav
12-13-2008, 09:44 AM
I would take my parang if I could have only one thing. I am wearing shorts and sleeveless Under Armour tee-shirt. I have wallet, notebook and paperback book in my pockets. It gets cold now at night so I would take US navy parka. But I guess that is 2 things. So better just take the parka.

palerider
12-13-2008, 09:55 AM
Right now:

CF combat clothing (thermakl undershirt), with gortex jacket on chair (grab that as I leave).
Pockets: Wallet, day planner, various sheets of folded paper, Ball point gel pen, corkscrew/bottle opener, whet stone, Bic lighter, tylenol, 2 lip balms, one moisturizer tube, magnesium fire block, and flint, cigar nipper, keys, nail clippers, Leatherman supertool, combat gloves, sodoku book, cigarettes, signaling mirror, beret, fivestar notebook, 6 more pens, black sharpie, small coil notepad, harmonica, two id badges (one with clip), mine awareness foldout pam, ziplock bag, 3.25" computer disk, pocket comb, driver log booko, pocket Art of War, dakota caribiner watch/compass, 26 cents and a red lens for my minimag-light (absent).

why so many pens?
do you have allot of mimes in kingston?

palerider
12-13-2008, 10:05 AM
guess i would be in trouble. i'm sitting here in my birthday suit drinking a cup of hot coffee, sure hope i don't get transported into the same place you guys do:eek:
in all seriousness i wear clothes with many pockets maybe i have bought into all the indusrty hype that i should always be prepared or prepare all ways, so i have spent my time and money doing just that now it is the focus of my daily life just as when i was in combat zones you geared your thinking towards threat asessment you viewed evrything as a potetial threat same as when i trained as a paramedic every car parked on the side of the hiway i saw as a potential medical emergency, now i look at my routine with a combination of all my training i think about it most of the day. who says i wrapped tighter that a christmas present::p

Leighman
12-19-2008, 03:26 PM
On my person; Glock 23 w/spare mag, Spyderco Delica, wallet, mini Bic lighter, cell phone, and Leatherman Wave.

Only one item to grab on the way out?

Gerber water bladder day pack.

MCBushbaby
12-19-2008, 04:42 PM
With all this hoopla about survival kits. Those planning on their personal survival event, let's just say you, right now, this very minute, this one speck of time, were pulled from your computer and dropped 150 miles in the middle of the mountains.

On the way out the door you grab one thing, what would it be?

Question 1..What is in your pocket, right now?

Question 2..What would you grab, only one thing and don't go saying "duh, my survival kit" survival kits not allowed.


What'cha got, what'cha gonna grab?

1) Nothing
2) My cell phone, duh


On my person; Glock 23 w/spare mag...

I don't want to watch the football game with you anytime soon, lol

Leighman
12-20-2008, 03:25 PM
I don't want to watch the football game with you anytime soon, lol

That's funny!

At the time I replied, I was at work which has no limitations on CCW so I was armed.

today at home watching the tube or reading my gun(s) are close by but secure....I would still take the 100 ounce hydration pack!

A190
12-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Matches in my pocket, folding knife in my other pocket. J frame on the hip and am wearing my insulated boots and fleece lined blue jeans................Of course if is kinda lcold here today..................one thing to grab on the way out the door.............my EBR....

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