mayan calendar

[chiggersngrits]

so the mayan calendar ends on december 21, 2012. alot of the doom and gloomers say its going to be the end of the world. if thats true, then what is the first day on the calender? wouldn't it be the first day of the world. i'd like to know what it is. also did they get a 3 day weekend if a holiday fell on monday or friday?:rolleyes:

[crashdive123]

Everything you always wanted to know......or not.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1985&highlight=2012

[nell67]

chigger,I think you'd have to talk to an autistic savant to get the answer to that one......

[chiggersngrits]

i started reading beo's post and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.jk. according to wikipedia the first day was august 11, 3114 bce. i wonder if they had a pick on rick month?

[klkak]

From the looks of it the Mayan world ended a long time ago. Their calender must have been off by a few days give or take a thousand year or so.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

so the mayan calendar ends on december 21, 2012. alot of the doom and gloomers say its going to be the end of the world. if thats true, then what is the first day on the calender? wouldn't it be the first day of the world. i'd like to know what it is. also did they get a 3 day weekend if a holiday fell on monday or friday?:rolleyes:

If we consider the first day as when the sun ignited and the last day when the sun blows up, 2012 is the end of an age for mankind and not the end of
time for mankind.

[trax]

Maybe the Mayans only had one guy who made calendars and he retired or died or something....never got finished.

[tsitenha]

erunkiswldrnssurvival, you got it spot on
end of an age

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Critical events were positvely recorded on the maya calender, i would like to understand more about it. Something to do with the fabric of life, what said how said and our Creators desire to give us the tools we need to live and survive.

[Gray Wolf]

Maybe the Mayans only had one guy who made calendars and he retired or died or something....never got finished.

trax, he got fired. Had to take a sundial apprenticeship position...

[tsitenha]

"a sundial apprenticeship position..."

Now that's funny:D

I don't who you are:D

[crashdive123]

The calendar thing was a union gig. They went on strike. With a family of eleven.....what's a fella to do? He took another non-union job and invented hieroglyphic writing.

[Dennis K.]

When those guys come out of their Y2K bunkers, I'll ask them about it

***note to self: re-read The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

A lot of end times prophecies these days... Barack Obama as the silver-tongued speaker with ties to the East, Mayan Calendar, Nostradamus, Revelation, etc.

My book says its not for us to know the day or time, and when it does happen, we won't need CNN's pundits to debate it.

Dennis (livin' today) K.

[crashdive123]

I've heard that September 22nd is when everything is going to end.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

The numbers, 22 what does it mean? its more than just a date.

[Dennis K.]

22 is worthless. Bust at blackjack.

now, the numbers based on the Mayan calendar might have meaning, but only within the context of a cultural understanding of the Mayans.

then again, maybe the mathematical formula from which the Mayans derived their calendar was simply an imperfect formula. Even our own calendar isn't perfect - its off by a 1/4 day per year.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

They were able to predict future events some how, if not the calender some other way.
mathmatics played a role

[Dennis K.]

Perhaps. Their numbers. not ours.

[klkak]

September 22 is the day I usually realize that I spent to much money on my ungrateful spoiled rotten daughters birthday gift.

[Rick]

(tapping foot impatiently) What have I told ya'll about MY calendar? Huh? Didn't I tell you there is no world ending events on my calendar? Did everyone forget about Free Traxistan? Well? Did you? There's at least 1000 years of free love, wilderness adventures, and just a whole bunch of stuff. And that's just for starters. Then there's the 2000 years of positivity, the 1500 years of free food, the 15K...no, strike that. I'm not running anywhere. Oh, and what about the 3 years of free gold? Bragg is going to be handing out that worthless shiny so we can use it to put in tequila. We're going to give Gold Tequila a facelift. Just be careful when you tilt the bottle up. We've had some accidents during testing.

http://www.oldprof.com/Images/Paul0teeth.jpg

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

A leprechans pot of gold have ye? just a wee thread for a scotsh becochlars darnit

[crashdive123]

According to one of the great predictors of all things gloomy, September 22, 2008 will be mark the collapse of civilization and the fall of mankind. Little Boy Blue, what say you.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I would expect an enormous solar flair, no damage to us though, well see. not that I would try to predict. if the maya were correct, angry sun "god" belches fire.

[Gray Wolf]

angry sun "god" belches fire.

Must be from taco with chili sauce
along with a big Italian meatball and some stale chips
(washed down with wine & topped off with a Kit Kat
AFTER a few cheese curls & chili cheese fries) right nell. :D

[nell67]

You got it GW!

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

when I eat like that something else catches on fire

[bulrush]

Some sources say the Biblical creation date was 5792BC. Some say Adam was born 4177BC. The Ubaid period in Iraq went from 5900-4000BC. The Ubaid period predates Sumeria, supposedly the first civilization.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Some sources say the Biblical creation date was 5792BC. Some say Adam was born 4177BC. The Ubaid period in Iraq went from 5900-4000BC. The Ubaid period predates Sumeria, supposedly the first civilization.

Not to override accecpted history, Ive seen conclusive evidence that Pre- Native American peoples were using Veloso-Raptor Tail quills for Javelins. About 3.5 feet long the porquepine like quills were highly prized.I saw some in a museum in southern arizona. the exibitors covered up the truth of it. put a
date on the veloso-rapter, and youll more closely understand the beginning of Man

[Gray Wolf]

Ah, now you're joking, I get it.. :confused:

[tacmedic]

Are you talking about the velociraptor that existed during the cretaceous period approx 75 million years ago? I would have to say that I would be a little skeptical about humans being around that long ago. The earliest hominid bones that have been found in Africa date to only 6 or 7 million years ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/species.html and this species was even less advanced than an australopithicene that emerged about 4 million years ago. I still haven't figured out exactly when the cavemen that work for Geico started to evolve, but I have to think that it was much more recently.

What conclusive evidence have you seen?

[bulrush]

Not to override accecpted history, Ive seen conclusive evidence that Pre- Native American peoples were using Veloso-Raptor Tail quills for Javelins. About 3.5 feet long the porquepine like quills were highly prized.I saw some in a museum in southern arizona. the exibitors covered up the truth of it. put a
date on the veloso-rapter, and youll more closely understand the beginning of Man

If a dino tail was found in a tomb with a pre-native American, I'd say that's conclusive evidence that they were contemporaneous. Not that leading scientists would admit it, though.

I'm open-minded enough to know what I may not know. Leading scientists are not. Does that make me smarter than them? You decide.



Are you talking about the velociraptor that existed during the cretaceous period approx 75 million years ago? I would have to say that I would be a little skeptical about humans being around that long ago. The earliest hominid bones that have been found in Africa date to only 6 or 7 million years ago.

What conclusive evidence have you seen?

Read "Forbidden Archaeology" by Michael Cremo. He is a trained archaeologist tired of the status quo ignoring plain evidence. 800+ pages of systematically hidden conclusive evidence: "misread" carbon dating results, people threatened for telling the truth, intricate gold chains found in 80 million year old coal chunks, stolen evidence.

I'm not talking aliens cloning/creating humans every so often and repeating the process each time they (humans) blow themselves up. My take is that humanity has existed since dinosaur time. Their technology has ranged from stone age, to iron age, and waxed and waned during all this time. This hidden evidence passes the logic test, even if it isn't in the papers.

It makes sense that over 80 million years, almost all evidence of these civilizations has been utterly destroyed, with the rare evidence popping up now and then. What about the cave paintings that showed men hunting dinosaurs? Carbon dating put them at much older than 100,000 years.

Case in point: the oldest ruins (Ubaid period from Iraq) have been dated to 5900BC. However, after carbon dating parts of the sphinx and pyramids, scientists refuse to believe they are older than 5900 years. Carbon dating puts them at 10,000 years to 12,000 years old. So who built them? Not aliens, just someone for which we have limited evidence of their existence.

Didn't Eric the Red and other vikings come to the US and Canada before Columbus?

One should be skeptical but also open-minded enough not to ignore the facts.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Are you talking about the velociraptor that existed during the cretaceous period approx 75 million years ago? I would have to say that I would be a little skeptical about humans being around that long ago. The earliest hominid bones that have been found in Africa date to only 6 or 7 million years ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/species.html and this species was even less advanced than an australopithicene that emerged about 4 million years ago. I still haven't figured out exactly when the cavemen that work for Geico started to evolve, but I have to think that it was much more recently.

What conclusive evidence have you seen?
yes thats the one . most of mans "record" was wiped out at Yellow stone,
when the caldera formed its 60 mile rim at the eruption 620,000 years ago.A mecca where pre history Man flourished, materials were thrown as far as Boston during the eruption.yellow stone a Global catastrophy, nearly ended life on our continent.at Yellow stone (the Rim Regions) evidence of "Cretaceus" Man lingers Ive picked it up with my own fingers.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

the rapter bodies were burned to remove the shorter quills. the fossil record still contained the charcoal. also the "dew" claws were missing , in addition to that the tail quills were all present except the four at the extremity. other stone found at the fossil site stongly resemble stone in my collection.

[Gray Wolf]

Michael Cremo! This is from his book Human Devolution:
A Vedic Alternative to Darwin's Theory

"We did not evolve up from matter; instead we devolved, or came down, from the realm of pure consciousness, spirit," writes Michael Cremo.

"Where did we come from? Drawing upon a wealth of research into archeology, genetics, reincarnation memories, out-of-body experiences, parapsychology, cross cultural cosmology, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, Cremo provides a refreshing perspective."

Call me silly but I'll stick with the Phd's from the leading University's and Research Centers...

(Also, he only co-authored Forbidden Archeology, and is self trained)

[Gray Wolf]

Now everyone sing along;

Woke up this morning with light in my eyes
And then realized it was still dark outside
It was a light comin'down from the sky
I don't know who or why

Must be those strangers that come every night
Whose saucers shaped light put people up tight
Leave blue green footprints that glow in the dark
I hope they get home all right

Hey Mr.Spaceman, won't you please take me along
I won't do anything wrong
Hey Mr.Spaceman, won't you please take me along
For a ride

Woke up this mornin', I was feeling quite weird
Had flies in my beer, my tooth paste was smeared
I opened my window, they'd written my name
Said: "So long, we'll see you again".

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

As fr
Michael Cremo! This is from his book Human Devolution:
A Vedic Alternative to Darwin's Theory

"We did not evolve up from matter; instead we devolved, or came down, from the realm of pure consciousness, spirit," writes Michael Cremo.

"Where did we come from? Drawing upon a wealth of research into archeology, genetics, reincarnation memories, out-of-body experiences, parapsychology, cross cultural cosmology, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, Cremo provides a refreshing perspective."

Call me silly but I'll stick with the Phd's from the leading University's and Research Centers...

(Also, he only co-authored Forbidden Archeology, and is self trained)
As for self training, when you see a thorn bush you know it to be a thorn bush
And Micnael Cremo had the proper notion, Our So called experts are trained NOT to present information that contridicts world education. we call it Hieracy
Man has always been Man. neanderthal is a simular species we cant say they
were first or last, our species may have hunted them into extinction, as we hunted the longhorn carribu into extinction,and the mommoth,

[crashdive123]

(((in his Foghorn Leghorn voice))) Sounds like, I say - sounds like there's a whole lot a conspiring goin on.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Its a strongly divided debate over the "upspringing of man" issue. In boston the Pudding stone at the coast has debris found only in yellow stone area, this material has again turned to stone "concresive volcanic ash and pumice" the last eruption was 620,000 years ago, thats almost yesterday in geologic terms somewhere in boston is a 600,000,000 year old man sample that originated in yellow stone.

[klkak]

What does all this dino crap have to do with the Mayan Calendar?

[ryaninmichigan]

That the Mayan calander maybe does not mean the end of the world just the end to an era. and that there have been many eras before this one. (maybe) And if there was they are being hidden by the church and some goverments.

[crashdive123]

Probably in the Book Of Secrets.

[Rick]

You're right, Crash. It's all right here in my Big Book of Secrets. Am I going to tell all of you? No. Because it wouldn't be a conspiracy any more if I did that. Traxistan has to have some secrets. We can't have a bunch of happy go lucky carefrees running around the country now can we?

Rick
Minister of Science

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

That the Mayan calander maybe does not mean the end of the world just the end to an era. and that there have been many eras before this one. (maybe) And if there was they are being hidden by the church and some goverments.
I agree with the coverups, im certain that some of them have insight where the QUESTION is concerned. so why arent they telling us about it?

[crashdive123]

Because as Rick said, then it wouldn't be a conspiracy anymore. Nor would it be a secret.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

We can see that with the increase in technology soon after the Roswell (area 51) Incedent

[crashdive123]

All Righty Then.....

[Rick]

Okay, 1 little secret but you have to promise not to tell. Here it is. Roswell isn't a secret installation. In fact, no one works there except for the guards. All the real outer space stuff and go fast gear is all test at LAX. I mean, come on, where else could little green men fit in and no one even notice them. Cali folks are too laid back for their own good.:D

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I dont dought it . NY is overrun with..... but mabe they realy discovered something. to avoid "HYSTERIA" in the public, they try keep to some of us "Blissfuly Ignorant" forget UFO's, theres something else going on.

[crashdive123]

Please refer back to post #46.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I see now i get it!

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