true mountain man winter season

[sregor]

Anyone interested in spending a winter season out in the backcountry?? location very flexible, im doin it one way or another, lone wolf or in good company. If a true test is what you've been waiting for here it is. any advice or info to help would be greatly apprectiated.

happy huntings

[crashdive123]

You may want to check with Ralbert and his girlfriend - they may be interested. In the meantime hike on over to the introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself.

[laughing beetle]

I have lived the winter wilderness experience... It's not something one does without careful planning and a fair amount of luck. Or grain alcohol. Whichever you prefer;) To know that I can survive is enough for me, thanks anyhow:)

[klkak]

Oh great! Another Numpty!!!

[crashdive123]

Time will tell.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

A hard winter is better than strawberries! I love the winter. one suggestion is to learn what summer plants look like under snow.Also most plants become inedible in winter,so
by roasting and grinding,or roasting and boiling the plants you can get the food.seed stocks are an important winter food source. oil lamp technology,and the use of hot rocks. learn what seeds and nuts provide oil to burn.,Huge heat with little fuel! oh,
good luck.

[laughing beetle]

yeah, thats what i was thinking... By the way, I know full well that I come down with numptyitis now and again, but I do my best to make sure it happens before I am off on a weekends tramping. ( note to self- dont forget the DEET again!!!) Generally, continued experience cures the attacks of numptyisms, and improvisation is an awesome thing. It can take away the sting of "man that was stoopid!" ;)

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I hope you ment stew pit

[sregor]

well this wouldn't exactly be my first exposure to the winter wonderland of survival..
did a 40 day 40 nighter from feb to march. fun times.

[crashdive123]

Noah? Is that you?:D Just kidding, just kidding. I do have a serious question for you though. With your first post on a forum where you don't know anybody, you invite others to join you in an overwinter adventure. You may be serious and sincere, but really----think how that sounds. Who do you think would join you without knowing anything about you? Since you know nothing about the people you are asking, you could easily be placing yourself in danger.

If you're serious....hang out for awhile and get to know the members.

[klkak]

well this wouldn't exactly be my first exposure to the winter wonderland of survival..
did a 40 day 40 nighter from Feb to march. fun times.

Please tell us all about it.

1. Location of this adventure?
2. Type of shelter used?
3. Type of sleeping system?
4. What did you eat?
5. How did you cook your food?
6. Where did you get your water?
7. What equipment & Tools did you take?
8. Did you just survive or did you thrive?
9. What lesson did you learn?

[sregor]

applogies.
well i submitted a little intro on another thread for a brief overview.
the quickness to an invite would be on the grounds of trying to find resources/people.
the overall plan is to backpack around from october till maybe mid november, december, survive winter, backpack around, get back to vegas, rest, Pacific Crest Trail. Buy new truck. lol

[laughing beetle]

I hope you ment stew pit

ha! reminds me of the first time I tried to use a dutch oven in the fire pit. Used way too much rice ( cooked up with venison, onions and tomatos is very tasty:) The kettle overflowed and my dinner wound up in the fire:D oops! I was 12 at the time... my dad just laughed and pulled out his backup stash of peanutbutter and jelly. we still had a great time...

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

serra winters are the harshest. that would be a task. 6 feet of snow on a ponderosa pine
forest? even the the roots run and hide! good thing for tree buds.

[laughing beetle]

I have only experienced Adirondack winters myself. It either blizzards for 4 days or we get lake effect snow for 4 weeks. Lots of fun but not to be taken lightly.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Yea your right, winter is no joke. exposure knows not mercy. food does not protect you
insulates only last until wet.

[sregor]

as far as the 40 days 40 nights goes......
at 17years old i decided to stop living my life in a little box, left school mid january. february 12 or so I headed up to Hatch, UT area (directly in the middle of Zion national park, BRyce canyon and brian head.) now i will admit this definately wasnt a full 40 of survival. for about 2 weeks total i stayed in this little shack of a cabin ( wood burning stove, twin sized bed, 4 walls. ) the snowshoe in was about 3 miles. from that "base of opperations" we will call it, about 10 square miles of open area with no other buildings around. just me a buddy and our dog. we had tofu, rice, beans, and coffee we packed in along with about 20 or so books to enlighten and fill up the ol knowledge bucket.

now as far as the survival..

full pack
-sleeping bag w/ cover
-self inflating air pad
-hatchet
-compass
-knife
-flint
-clothes extra socks
-books
-snowshoes

I built a few basic snowcaves, and one very nice multi person/dog trench with tree branches for flooring , wove branches together to make a door/opening hatch, the roof was covered.

between me and my wolfdog 2 turkeys were obtained for food and broth. cooked broth down in coffe can over camp fire.

fortunately for us a creek ran through most of the land, boiled snow down a few times on the trail.

spent 18days out solid living solely off broth and a few very tasty bunnys trapped.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I've been accused of taking chances, but... im still here to tell you about it! winter is my favorite time to test

[Fletcher]

Dude you are the man!!!!!!! Beans and rice for 40 days and 40 nights coffee and two turkeys. Now that there is down right Survivorman STUFF. I bet you could start a fire in a hurricane. Walk naked thru a jungle.

[Rick]

I got a pretty good laugh at the beans and rice as well. I'd also like to know how you got a turkey in a coffee can to cook it down to broth.
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[ArmySurvivalist]

You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
goat meat and snow melted water.

You gonna call me a liar?

[Rick]

For 40 days? "Sometimes" I have no problem with. A month and a half on beans and rice is a bit of stretch. But, hey, it could happen. Now, explain the turkey in the coffee can to me.

[Fletcher]

You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
goat meat and snow melted water.

You gonna call me a liar?

Are you a 17 year old kid?

[ArmySurvivalist]

Eh, I tried kid. I like to believe there are some honest people. Fletch, you made a decent point.

[trax]

Um Rick? You cut the turkey up into little chunks of meat. What he's suggested is certainly do-able. I agree with Crash about the way he approached us. Perhaps we are becoming too cynical, but better to err on the side of caution, it's a lot easier to talk about winter survival here than it is to do it out there. It just pains me to try to figure out why people want to do these things unless they're experienced hunters and trappers without enough food!

I've done winter camping in northern Manitoba, certainly not 40 days and 40 nights at a time. I can get quite comfortable at it in fact, but the most I've done is a week at a time. The weather that I go hunting in up north is enough to make most people change their minds about going, but I make sure I've got enough food and a decent shelter! I've lived in fully equipped bush camps for longer than that, but survival wasn't even an issue, we were there to do a job and we did it and all of our basic needs were provided for so it doesn't count. It was just a job that required living in a bigazz tent in the winter.

If I'm out for that length of time with someone and that person packed along tofu as a food source, that person should realize that I may start looking at them as a food source. LOL

[Sourdough]

You know whats funny to me, people who always believe others are lieing about everything. I survived in Afghanistan with nothing more sometimes then a slab of
goat meat and snow melted water.

You gonna call me a liar?

NO...SIR, With a few exceptions, very few exceptions, this forum is comprised of "Google" taught, and book learned members, who think they have the, "Right Stuff", however enjoy the safety and comfort of their soft life.

There is to much of a "Nanny" mind set. 45,000 people per year die on the American Highways, and no one Say's, stay off the Highway. So what if a few people die in the wilderness, your going to die anyway.

We should help enlighten about the dangers, and teach skills, but not discourage adventures, just because it is outside of your comfort range.

sregor, came with an invitation to an adventure, sregor did not come asking our permission, or even what we thought, just an invitation.

sregor if I was 45 years younger, I would love to go on your adventure. As it is getting through the winter in my cabin will be all the hardship I want to endure.

Damn the the nanny's, "Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing".

I say go for it.......:)

[Fletcher]

hopak, that hurt! and you are spot on with it. If anyone had told me don't do that.......I did it anyway. SO it does not matter what anyone says. Man will do what ever he wants..........and some will die before thier time........infact most will. The others are prepared for death.

[ArmySurvivalist]

Hopeak, you certainly are one of the people on here I will enjoy reading your posts. I myself and not a person to flame someone and the point is made pretty clear.

Thanks to the TC for the invite, but ill pass this trip man.

[klkak]

Hope, you are so eloquent.

Trax, I'm with you. If I'm going to be in the bush for an extended period of time I am going very well prepared.

When my friends and I take a couple week hunting trip, we pack like we are going to be gone for a month or more. I remember my first December hunting trip in Alaska. We had wall tents with wood stoves, slept on cots in -40 bags. I was cold for 16 days. My body craved any thing with fat in it. If one of the guys had said "Lets do another couple weeks". I would have punched him in the mouth. I had a lot of fun on that trip but I wouldn't do it again. I don't think we would have survived on tofu, rice, beans and 2 turkeys.

sregor, I don't believe you made to excursion as you relayed it to us. But who cares what I think. Do what you wanna do. Just take pictures and share them if you get back.

[Gray Wolf]

hopeak, I was going to post to your irresponsible remarks, but if you don't get it by now, nothing I can say will make a difference, not that you would care. Sarge, trax, crash, Rick, nell, Beo, kalak and others have explained this many times before, and you still don't understand.

And BTW, I would trek with anyone of them (and some that I forgot to mention), because they do have the "Right Stuff" as you put it. You're comments make me think that you described yourself, "a Google and Book type survivor". If you had the "Right Stuff", you would know how dangerous it can be out there. Telling people, that you can see by their post, that they're unprepared and don't have much wilderness experience, to go for it, is just irresponsible. JMHO

[ArmySurvivalist]

Does a camera have room in a survival pack ;) ;)

Matches, check
Iodine Tabs, check

Lets see,

Camera with super lens and proof verification, check.

[crashdive123]

Proof verification? I must say sir that my liquor is 80 proof and above.:D

[Sourdough]

Grey Wolf, Your opinion went down the Outhouse Hole, a few months ago when you called me a lier. So here is my opinion......nanny, nanny.....nanny, grow a pair.

[Rick]

Everyone fix a heaping bowl of this for supper tonight.

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As for opinions on my experience, abilities, and or lack thereof. I could care less. I have nothing to prove to anyone. If my posts are of value take them to heart if they aren't ignore them. It's about that simple. It's a forum for God's sake.

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

hurry before they know I've escaped again , sure is a b...h gettin outa that straight jacket yea sign me up Imma goin I'll show dem how to put a turkey in a can alright and we can pass da time fartin from all da beans an rice wooo sounds cool dont worry son its not loaded

[BIG TONE]

Maybe it happened it probable didnt but who really cares.I HONESTLY walked 10 miles with a 50lb pack had plenty of food and water for the four days and was still glad to get home.Or maybe it was two days?:)

[ArmySurvivalist]

Awesome.. truely awesome... haha.

Love the can.

I thought a camera was cool hell, how am I gonna fit that can in my pack...

Dang..

Is this the winter excursion proof he wanted?
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[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

my honest opinion is if a man wants to go do sumthin like that and believes he can then by god why not? If earlier man sat at his puter and said ohno it's dangerous where would we be ? Aint alot in dis world that gets the heart going or causes excitement and the rush that is not dangerous cmon wheres the adventure? It was purely survival and lrational to take a covered wagon across the great divide yet it was done countless times It was considered borderline insanity to be a mountain man in the Rockies hell I'd go and truth be told I've done alot worse things in the name of adventure .

[ArmySurvivalist]

I like my computer adventures dont get me wrong, nothing like a desktop background of a 3d fire. Takes seconds to make and it burns forever.

No kidding. :)

[Rick]

Uh, okay. Have at.

If you asked me how sane it was to take a covered wagon across the great divide I would have told you how nuts it was without proper precautions and doing it the right time of year. I would have explained what you needed to take with you to keep you alive.

Of course, if you just told me you were going to take a wagon into the Indian lands for a couple of weeks that would have changed things quite a bit. I'd have had to read a book before I could have advised you properly. Anyone know a good book about traveling in the Indian lands for a couple of weeks? A friend of mine has a wild hair.

[crashdive123]

If somebody wants to go and overwinter or out into the wilds - fine. If they ask for recommendations and don't like what they hear - fine. If ten people respond and give varying degrees of useful information - fine. If they're nose is going to get all bent out of shape because they didn't like what they heard - fine. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.

[ArmySurvivalist]

Actually, take a tomahawk. I hear that they appreciate using yours to scalp you instead of having to get blood on theirs.

Good advice

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

If somebody wants to go and overwinter or out into the wilds - fine. If they ask for recommendations and don't like what they hear - fine. If ten people respond and give varying degrees of useful information - fine. If they're nose is going to get all bent out of shape because they didn't like what they heard - fine. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
Some of us know full well the rigors of winter,forget what you know and look at
the exposure, winter in a cabin is not winter out in the weather.if you winter in the cabin stay at home ,if you winter in the weather, dont leave your toes
at "home"

[ArmySurvivalist]

When it snowed about 8 times in the mountains of Afghanistan. I was the Numpty and said
It snows here in the mountains?? Well 3 ft later and waste deep snow I felt the power of weather, also seeing our mud hut getting swallowed with slush and being destroyed. By winters break we had a 10ft high by 3 feet wide washed out door that was not there in the beginning.

I felt the winter chill all night for a long time. Months actually, sometimes I would wonder if I would ever feel the tip of my nose again.

Thank god for gortex. I hear Rick actually takes the credit... haha

I built a brick stove and used dead wood and bushes to keep the other wood dry. Talk about a pain.

[Rick]

Not me. Two of my buddies Gore and Tex get the credit for that. But since I'm Minister of Science I get a percentage.

[ArmySurvivalist]

erunk, being in florida you must feel the pain of most of these hurricanes. My question is how do you do it man!

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I travel around. florida is where i forget my frozen toes until the next time. and the hurricanes? a wind blown rain excites me

[trax]

I travel around. florida is where i forget my frozen toes until the next time. and the hurricanes? a wind blown rain excites me

Really? If you've got $100 to throw away on a good time there's this woman I heard about in Topeka...hmmmm...never mind.

[ArmySurvivalist]

trax, you have a woman?? Rick when the hell were we issued that??

[crashdive123]

trax, you have a woman?? Rick when the hell were we issued that??

If you weren't issued it in boot camp......guess you missed the specialized issue day.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I would spend $100.00 on something to protect me from the woman!

[crashdive123]

I would spend $100.00 on something to protect me from the woman!

Ummmm......you can get them cheaper at the corner drug store.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

YEP . worth it at any price

[ArmySurvivalist]

Well not that a woman does not come up in the full definition of " Survival " But shouldn't
Les Stroud do a special show about how to survive 7 days with a wife. I need the advice.

HAHA

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I agree, none of our fathers prepaired us for that one

[trax]

trax, you have a woman?? Rick when the hell were we issued that??

Ummm...yes to the question (please look under Nell's avatar ) No to thinking it's the one in Topeka.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

W.C.Fields said... Any man that dont like Kids and dogs cant be all bad!

[Rick]

Let's it hereby be known to all that I neither disparage nor make fun of women. Further, let it be known, that I shun all who would even think about disparaging or making fun of women.

How'd I do, girls?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

thats right . women are better at doing just about everything. ask my wife!

[nell67]

Let's it hereby be known to all that I neither disparage nor make fun of women. Further, let it be known, that I shun all who would even think about disparaging or making fun of women.

How'd I do, girls?

You did well Rick.

Yes AS Trax has a woman,and she is meaner than He** from what I gather :D

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

You did well Rick.

Yes AS Trax has a woman,and she is meaner than He** from what I gather :D

women are first in my house, with my wife and three daughters, im out numbered anyway! theres strength in numbers!

[ArmySurvivalist]

LOL, I have a wife and a daughter. Fun thing with women is they are always sharp as a knife, you never need to sharpen them. HAHA Kidding.

Love the wife and kids.

[Rick]

(he said looking around to make certain she wasn't looking over his shoulder).

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

(he said looking around to make certain she wasn't looking over his shoulder).

I give mine a good sized stick before i open my mouth, Yea she just might use it!

[klkak]

You know, I've been on this forum for a few days now and I am still amazed at the directions a thread can take-off in. Just amazed...,

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Yes sir. home is where the heart is , no matter how far you go theres no place like home.
its the first place i want to leave , when i get there its the first place i want to get back to

[Sarge47]

Anyone interested in spending a winter season out in the backcountry?? location very flexible, im doin it one way or another, lone wolf or in good company. If a true test is what you've been waiting for here it is. any advice or info to help would be greatly apprectiated.

happy huntings
Will the trails handle my Winnebago?(DISCLAIMER: I don't really have a Winnebago. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't use one if I got it.) How about Lumbago? There's a couple of guys in Manitoba who might hook up with you!:rolleyes: Here's an idea for a newspaper ad: CALLING ALL NUMPTYS! Are you totally in love with Bear Grylls, Les Stroud, or the "Twinkie Man"? Do you like taking on the great outdoors with only half of your wits? How about hooking up with someone who's actually done it? True, I could be a serial killer or a pediphile for all you know,:eek: but hey, life's a crap-shoot, right?:D Don't hesitate, call 1-800-UBA-FOOL!:rolleyes:

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Will the trails handle my Winnebago?(DISCLAIMER: I don't really have a Winnebago. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't use one if I got it.) How about Lumbago? There's a couple of guys in Manitoba who might hook up with you!:rolleyes: Here's an idea for a newspaper ad: CALLING ALL NUMPTYS! Are you totally in love with Bear Grylls, Les Stroud, or the "Twinkie Man"? Do you like taking on the great outdoors with only half of your wits? How about hooking up with someone who's actually done it? True, I could be a serial killer or a pediphile for all you know,:eek: but hey, life's a crap-shoot, right?:D Don't hesitate, call 1-800-UBA-FOOL!:rolleyes:

well i might be a numpty, no numb is more like it!ill take an outing in anything you got. Please no volkswagon beetles!

[klkak]

Sarge is one of my hero's.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

mine too, even his name tells you that he's someone to be respected. my elders are my
guidence,without them there would be only me

[crashdive123]

Come on Sarge. Don't sugar coat it - tell us exactly how you feel.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

sarge bites louer than he barks. its what he doesnt say that gets you

[sregor]

I got a pretty good laugh at the beans and rice as well. I'd also like to know how you got a turkey in a coffee can to cook it down to broth.
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ha have you ever caught a wild turkey in winter months in utah?? ha i broke it up into single bones, making it very easy to travel with and cook up self portions at a time.. very timely but then again it aint exactly instant potatoes and granola bars

[klkak]

ha have you ever caught a wild turkey in winter months in utah??

So by what means were you able to catch this turkey in winter in Utah?

[klkak]

sregor, check out the following link before you answer my previous question.

http://wildlife.utah.gov/guidebooks/2008_turkey/2008_turkey.pdf

[crashdive123]

Klkak - I sooooo wanted to read that link. Not opening for me.

[klkak]

Sorry it wouldn't open for you. It's the Utah regs on hunting wild turkey.

[klkak]

Crash, Try the link now it should work.

[Sarge47]

Oh yeah, there was a turkey in Utah alright, & now he's joined this forum!:eek:

[Sarge47]

...don't think I'd wanna go on that kind of trip...there seems to be more adventure & better pay being a security guard in a shopping mall....:D

[Fletcher]

I bet he low crawled right up on that old gobbler [ whist he was a lokin the other way] whuped out his swiss army..................and clipped his wings with his trusty sizzooorrrrzzz

[sregor]

sregor, check out the following link before you answer my previous question.

http://wildlife.utah.gov/guidebooks/2008_turkey/2008_turkey.pdf

looks like someone knows how to use the internet machine!!!!!!!!!

well i dont know what the "handbook" tells you what your supposed to think and do, but i can tell you what my experiences are..

at first a turkey looked very delicious to have for dinner, after trying to track down some i soon came to the conclusion... F this.

the first turkey was caught by my dog malibu (akida wolf colley mix), i was hiking back to my "base of operations" one day, comming around the bend of the creek into some brush malibu took off way ahead of me, by the time i got there she had it pinned half under a fell tree plucking the feathers off occasionally grazing skin. i stepped in and tried to snap the neck being my first experience with a turkey like this. unsuccesfully i pulled out my trusty hatchet and lopped the head off, carried the blood dripping carcas closer to camp, deskinned it (on account of all the bugs) and pulled out all the guts. I then pulled out my trusty pocket knife, took off as much meat as i could ( very little meat on wild turkeys... makes you wonder why the ones you get in the store are so plump????????. i cooked the meat in water along with some fresh water crests ( mid february is the prime time) and salt i keep in my pack. i kept all the bones big and small, tendons, feet.

turkey number 2 was caught on a more tactical approach.. after a while being on this land i gradualy learned how to track a little better (yes i know what you google busters are thinking... Oh how could it be so hard to track in the snow????? the tracks can last a lot longer and more visible in snow than in dirt.. TRUE!!!! congratulations on another succesful search. however......
when dealing with multiple tracks it becomes difficult to stay on the right ones, depth, pressure points in specific points, stride length.
that being said, i observed for a few days and decided on a spot where turkeys would come through regularly. equipped with moccosins, i took off the leather lacing and made some rope along with some trusty hemp twine (never leave home without it). made a little snare, woke up before sunrise.. using the age old native american hunters routine of drinking alot of water before you go to bed so your bladder wakes you up!) crawled in the allready prepped snow cave, set my trap, waited and at the precise moment of turkey arival, probably by luck, and got my self a leg caught... so thats how i trapped it. for about 20 seconds i held on as my freshly aqquired turkey kite tried to escape. then rang that suckers neck like nobodys buisiness.

ha and are you really going to throw the ol permit card on me??? wow.
because thats the first thing that pops into my head when im in a survival type situation.. well im really hungry, but guess im sol because i didnt aquire the specified permits from my local government building.

[Fletcher]

I can live with that!

[nell67]

looks like someone knows how to use the internet machine!!!!!!!!!

well i dont know what the "handbook" tells you what your supposed to think and do, but i can tell you what my experiences are..

at first a turkey looked very delicious to have for dinner, after trying to track down some i soon came to the conclusion... F this.

the first turkey was caught by my dog malibu (akida wolf colley mix), i was hiking back to my "base of operations" one day, comming around the bend of the creek into some brush malibu took off way ahead of me, by the time i got there she had it pinned half under a fell tree plucking the feathers off occasionally grazing skin. i stepped in and tried to snap the neck being my first experience with a turkey like this. unsuccesfully i pulled out my trusty hatchet and lopped the head off, carried the blood dripping carcas closer to camp, deskinned it (on account of all the bugs) and pulled out all the guts. I then pulled out my trusty pocket knife, took off as much meat as i could ( very little meat on wild turkeys... makes you wonder why the ones you get in the store are so plump????????. i cooked the meat in water along with some fresh water crests ( mid february is the prime time) and salt i keep in my pack. i kept all the bones big and small, tendons, feet.

turkey number 2 was caught on a more tactical approach.. after a while being on this land i gradualy learned how to track a little better (yes i know what you google busters are thinking... Oh how could it be so hard to track in the snow????? the tracks can last a lot longer and more visible in snow than in dirt.. TRUE!!!! congratulations on another succesful search. however......
when dealing with multiple tracks it becomes difficult to stay on the right ones, depth, pressure points in specific points, stride length.
that being said, i observed for a few days and decided on a spot where turkeys would come through regularly. equipped with moccosins, i took off the leather lacing and made some rope along with some trusty hemp twine (never leave home without it). made a little snare, woke up before sunrise.. using the age old native american hunters routine of drinking alot of water before you go to bed so your bladder wakes you up!) crawled in the allready prepped snow cave, set my trap, waited and at the precise moment of turkey arival, probably by luck, and got my self a leg caught... so thats how i trapped it. for about 20 seconds i held on as my freshly aqquired turkey kite tried to escape. then rang that suckers neck like nobodys buisiness.

ha and are you really going to throw the ol permit card on me??? wow.
because thats the first thing that pops into my head when im in a survival type situation.. well im really hungry, but guess im sol because i didnt aquire the specified permits from my local government building.
two things #1 watching you wring that big ol
birds neck had to be a site for sore eyes (not to mention a few sore muscles...)

2nd you weren't in a survival situation if you were only 3 miles in snowshoeing.

[Rick]

Oh, stop. You're killing me. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Just laid in that snow cave waiting, huh? Turkey on one end of the snare and you on the other. Why didn't you just use salt? That would have been a lot easier. Sprinkle some on its tail and you could have picked it right up.

Age old Native American trick? No wonder the cowboys always won. The Native Americans were out in the woods taking a pee when the cowboys rode in. Oh, this is rich! I love it.

(two Indians taking a pee at 4:00 a.m. in the woods)
"So, Mighty Eagle you going trapping this morning, too?"
"Yeah, Gotta be a better way to get up early than drinking all that water."
"You still do that? Why don't you just set the alarm?"

You tell a good tale I'll give you that. ROTFLMAO........

[Sarge47]

Instead of Turkey why didn't you eat beef? There seems to be plenty of "Bull" involved here!:rolleyes:

[Sarge47]

Rick: Salt on the tail! What a great Survival tip! (Pulls note pad & pen out of pocket, writes info down; muttering:) "Gotta remember that one!) Seriously though Rick, I believe he had Wild Turkey in a can...just the "LIQUID" variety!:eek::D:rolleyes::cool:

[crashdive123]

looks like someone knows how to use the internet machine!!!!!!!!!

well i dont know what the "handbook" tells you what your supposed to think and do, but i can tell you what my experiences are..

at first a turkey looked very delicious to have for dinner, after trying to track down some i soon came to the conclusion... F this.

the first turkey was caught by my dog malibu (akida wolf colley mix), i was hiking back to my "base of operations" one day, comming around the bend of the creek into some brush malibu took off way ahead of me, by the time i got there she had it pinned half under a fell tree plucking the feathers off occasionally grazing skin. i stepped in and tried to snap the neck being my first experience with a turkey like this. unsuccesfully i pulled out my trusty hatchet and lopped the head off, carried the blood dripping carcas closer to camp, deskinned it (on account of all the bugs) and pulled out all the guts. I then pulled out my trusty pocket knife, took off as much meat as i could ( very little meat on wild turkeys... makes you wonder why the ones you get in the store are so plump????????. i cooked the meat in water along with some fresh water crests ( mid february is the prime time) and salt i keep in my pack. i kept all the bones big and small, tendons, feet.

turkey number 2 was caught on a more tactical approach.. after a while being on this land i gradualy learned how to track a little better (yes i know what you google busters are thinking... Oh how could it be so hard to track in the snow????? the tracks can last a lot longer and more visible in snow than in dirt.. TRUE!!!! congratulations on another succesful search. however......
when dealing with multiple tracks it becomes difficult to stay on the right ones, depth, pressure points in specific points, stride length.
that being said, i observed for a few days and decided on a spot where turkeys would come through regularly. equipped with moccosins, i took off the leather lacing and made some rope along with some trusty hemp twine (never leave home without it). made a little snare, woke up before sunrise.. using the age old native american hunters routine of drinking alot of water before you go to bed so your bladder wakes you up!) crawled in the allready prepped snow cave, set my trap, waited and at the precise moment of turkey arival, probably by luck, and got my self a leg caught... so thats how i trapped it. for about 20 seconds i held on as my freshly aqquired turkey kite tried to escape. then rang that suckers neck like nobodys buisiness.

ha and are you really going to throw the ol permit card on me??? wow.
because thats the first thing that pops into my head when im in a survival type situation.. well im really hungry, but guess im sol because i didnt aquire the specified permits from my local government building.

Wow. You did all of this at 17? Cool, way to go dude. How did you pass the time and fight boredom?

[nell67]

Wow. You did all of this at 17? Cool, way to go dude. How did you pass the time and fight boredom?

Thats what the wild turkey was for.....and the err.....reading material...

[ArmySurvivalist]

Dude have you ever thought about joining the army? I mean those skills....








BAHHHHHH HAHAHAH HAHAHAHHAHHH

[BIG TONE]

This is to good!!
I shoulda used my alarm cuz I wet the bed last night!lmfao

[ArmySurvivalist]

You know TONE, I love the music of the wild ( Cough ( thread Hijack ) Cough )

[BIG TONE]

you Know Tone, I Love The Music Of The Wild ( Cough ( Thread Hijack ) Cough )

Keep Em Comin Hahaha Im Ready (cough As@#@$% Cough):d

[BIG TONE]

sregor I am willing to let you come and practice your turkey skills on our farm which is coicidentally called the turkey creek ranch located on turkey creek rd.Then we could videotape for proof? Cuz i really really believe you.



hehe

[ArmySurvivalist]

Dang man TONE, all I have to do is lie to get a free ticket to your ranch... Man I hate being remotely honest, I mean honestly I never tell jokes ;)

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I would have joined the Army but i only have two feet

[ArmySurvivalist]

Yeah you only need 2, sorry to hear that man ;) ;)

How do you get by with only two feet?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

well thats not quite all , what i meant was two feet of rope, two stone feet. my path of education.an educate of wood lore , i spent my time doing something else.

[BIG TONE]

[QUOTE=ArmySurvivalist;70865]Dang man TONE, all I have to do is lie to get a free ticket to your ranch... Man I hate being remotely honest, I mean honestly I never tell jokes ;)

More of a farm but that would sound as good now would it.
i'd let you come out with out even lying.

[ArmySurvivalist]

I will have to remember that. Sounds like you have a huge place. Also sounds perfect for great camping and practice of many skills.

[BIG TONE]

Just head north,right on the Missouri river.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

Ahhh, The Great White North. Gods Country. I lived in New England for while and there is nothing like snow on a stand of Yew trees!

[crashdive123]

You guys...you're just so cynical. Sregor - sounds like a great adventure and I can understand why you'd want to do it again. Wish I had the time to join you. How long ago did you do your 40 dayer?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I'd lov to go on a 40 day trek, sounds good to me

[klkak]

One day I'll have to tell the story of when I knocked a Canada goose out of the air with a wrist rocket and a glass marble.

[Rick]

I'll see your goose with a wrist rocket and raise you a quail with a blow gun!

[klkak]

Yea but was the quail flying?

[Rick]

If it wasn't flyin' I'm dyin'! Ain't no lyin' or I be buyin'!

[klkak]

OK Rick, now take a deep breath and let it out slowly. now think very carefully. Did you take your medications this morning?

[Rick]

I thought I was taking yours!

[klkak]

OMG! If you've been taking mine then you need to call poison control or 911 or tacmedic or ....,

[ArmySurvivalist]

CDC!!! Call the CDC lol. Anyhow I see you guys having fun in here so I wanted to stop by.

Blow gun and wrist rocket... what about a flip flop and a wolf spider? does that qualify as dangerous and difficult. My wife seems to think so...

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

with a wolf spider, a flip flop doesnt have a chance!

[ArmySurvivalist]

HAHA. You know to my amazement Wolf spiders in Texas get to a decent size. I would
say close to comparison of a medium camel spider.

[Rick]

(checking map of thread) I'm lost. I thought I was right here on Mountain Man Winter Season then we took a left to ankle another left to meds and now we're somewhere around spider and that's not even on the map!

[ArmySurvivalist]

Rick, look up, look left and right.


This is Earth, welcome.

[BIG TONE]

Maybe we need to start a thread blah blah blah then everything will be on the map and it'll be 50 pages long.

[Rick]

I thought that's what this thread was!:rolleyes:

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I thought that's what this thread was!:rolleyes:
But this thread doesnt mention any thing about the bahamas,or Snakes wearing snow shoes!

[DOGMAN]

Have I got a plan for you! You can come live on my property in Montana. I'll supply a canvas wall tent, stove, some elk and deer meat until you can secure your own. You can use my all of my stuff to cut and split firewood, and hunt. You'll get the chance to snowshoe, or ski into your place everyday! And, all you have to do is feed and take care of a few dogs in exchange for this awesome opportunity!

[ArmySurvivalist]

Jason for god sakes PICK ME!!! ( HAND RAISED )

[DOGMAN]

Come on up. All I ask is for 4 hours a day of kennel chores in trade. Picking up poo, digging dog houses out of the snow, feeding, watering, repairing chains, posts, fences etc... It is a great deal for anyone looking to get primitive...or at least cold

[ArmySurvivalist]

That's a sweet deal considering what I have done before lol.

Ill have to take you up on it some time man.

[DOGMAN]

It's not tough work at all. I think its a great deal for someone wanting to try out living in a remote setting for a while. But, the romance of a "true mountain man winter" can sometimes fade away- when it becomes your only reality.

[ArmySurvivalist]

I would imagine. Being in a state where the climate changes depending on which way you
travel it gets kinda hectic wondering if you packed for the right side hehe.


I assume the sled dogs adventure is yours? That looks like a ton of fun man.

I envy you.

[BIG TONE]

Ahhh, The Great White North. Gods Country. I lived in New England for while and there is nothing like snow on a stand of Yew trees!

lots of trees mainly cottonwood,oak,maple,elm and cedar.Rolling hills it it gods country.I dream of moving to montana or alaska someday.For now I can't complain.

[BIG TONE]

I thought that's what this thread was!:rolleyes:

oh my mistake lol

[BIG TONE]

It's not tough work at all. I think its a great deal for someone wanting to try out living in a remote setting for a while. But, the romance of a "true mountain man winter" can sometimes fade away- when it becomes your only reality.

Sounds fun but would probably cause a divorce.Hmmm but if she did ever leave me I could be my temp. doghouse???

[DOGMAN]

By the way, I am not saying I live the life of a mountain man. I live in a house with electricity, running water, satellite television, and the internet. BUT, if someone wanted to live on my property, they definetly could live out there mountain man fantasy, for just a little kennel labor in a wall tent in my back forty.

[ArmySurvivalist]

Could you treat me like a illegal??

LOL

[crashdive123]

What? Send you back to Texas?

[ArmySurvivalist]

AHAHAH I LOVE YOU CRASH!! you are halarious, just like me !!

No there are illegal canadians, they call them the french right?

[crashdive123]

I believe they call illegals in Canada ----- Yankees.

[nell67]

I'm NOT a Yankee crash!

[crashdive123]

Yeah, but you won't be illegal either......that whole Queen of Traxistan thing don't ya know.:D

[nell67]

Oh how right you are!!!!:D

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