coyote trapping

[Ryleyboy]

i have tried to trap coyotes before but never can catch one.. we have used bait and circled it with traps and coyotes arnt coming in. is there any tips on how you can get there attenion and make them come in to your trap line./? and whats the best trap.. me and flandersander trap together and have set up a big bait and have got nothing when we should have a coyote becasue of the country were in/

[flandersander]

I think we should stick to 10/22's

[nell67]

Isn't it a little early to be trapping coyote in Canada???

[Beo]

Ryleyboy,
I did a whole thread on trapping and coyotes are covered in it with the right sized traps. But you have to have knowledge of trapping and how to do it for it to work. An old saying goes: "You gotta be smarter than what your working with." Coyotes are not dumb animals so your being out smarted, as Flandersnader said stick to the 10/22, for bait us the innards of a squirrel or rabbit, or the whole rabbit, or go to a butcher and get the scraps of raw meat they throw out with a little blood, pour it around the area and sit back a good ways and pick them off when they come in for the bait. That is how I did it when I started hunting coyotes, but your gonna have to read up on trapping them.
Just setting a trap out there with bait by it will not trap it.
Nell, I don't know about Canada but here in Ohio there is no closed season on Coyote, but during hunting season you can only take them with the means of that season i.e. if its bow season you gotta use a bow. Outside of hunting season you can hunt them how you like, gun, trap, or bow. It is the only game in Ohio that can be hunted with a rifle (except a rifled muzzleloader during deer season). But that is Ohio and not Canada.

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

First off all traps etc. must be scentless to draw a coyote the best bait by far for us anyway has been blood we got from butchers and deer processers , actually it is used to lure coyotes into the baited traps like a hole set and runway snares . We snared and trapped them in northern MN quite productively as there are plenty around. We boiled our traps and then used fire to remove all possible scent after this process they must not be touched except with trapping gloves on .

[nell67]

There is an open season for them Beo,this is what I could find so far,this is on Prince Edward island,I will keep looking or maybe one of our other canadian members will enlighten us further?

http://www.gov.pe.ca/infopei/index.php3?number=44545




Edit: In some places in Saskatchewan it does look like they can hunt them year round and without a license,but that does depend on their location.Scroll down on the right to trapping information.
http://www.environment.gov.sk.ca/adx/aspx/adxGetMedia.aspx?DocID=1738,318,246,94,88,Document s&MediaID=938&Filename=2008+Hunting+Guide.pdf

[Beo]

Then he (Ryleyboy) should follow the laws or he'll not only get in trouble but give us other hunters and trappers a bad name and reputation. Figures he didn't look up the laws and regulations. Every question he has asked he could have found an answer to by doing a search.

[Riverrat]

In New Brunswick, we have open season on them, but only for hunting, not traping.

[Ryleyboy]

they can be hunted all year round .. around here at least and i know that for sure

[Ryleyboy]

and i didnt say we are trapping now did I. i mean when the winter comes.

[Beo]

Ryleboy,
Don't get so mad little brother, we were not sure and just trying to help. I posted what works here for us and just asked about the season as its open here too. Try a few different things in in the winter use them the same and just use traps.
Here are some coyote traps.
Coyote (Although I prefer to hunt using my flintlock or .22)
#1 3/4 coilspring Approximate Jaw spread 5 3/8 inches
#2 coilspring Approximate Jaw spread 5 1/2 inches
#2 coilspring Padded Jaws Approximate Jaw spread 5 1/2 inches
#3 coilspring Approximate Jaw spread 6 1/4 inches
#3coilspring Padded Jaws Approximate Jaw spread 6 inches
#3 Double longspring Approximate Jaw spread 5 1/2 inches
#4 Double longspring Approximate Jaw spread 6 inches
Try these.

[Beo]

And here is the regulations for Prince Edward Island.
The Snowshoe Hare and Coyote seasons both run from the first Monday in October until the end of February. Prince Edward Island was once world renowned for its Silver Fox ranches, but what many hunters may not be aware of is the abundance of wild fox that roam our fields and woodlands. The season for fox is between the first of November and the end of January.

Hunting Seasons and Limits
Game Open Season
Daily
Bag Possession
Pheasant No open season - -
Ruffed Grouse Sept. 24 to Dec. 31 3 6
Hungarian (Grey)
Partridge
Oct. 15 to Nov. 10* 3 6
Snowshoe Hare***
(Rabbit)
Oct. 1 to Feb. 29 5 -
Fox Nov. 1 to Jan. 31 - -
Raccoon Oct. 15 to Jan. 31 - -
Coyote Oct. 1 to Mar. 31** - -
* There will be no open season for Hungarian (Grey) Partridge in
Lots 1 to 10, inclusive, and Lots 43 to 47 inclusive, in 2007/2008.
(See map on page 18.)
** Hunting with hounds is permitted from October 1 to February 29. The
running of hounds for training or any other purpose will not be
permitted during March 1 through March 31, except by permit. (Please
note that it is also illegal to chase or pursue wildlife with dogs during
the closed season for that wildlife, except by special permit.)
*** A Snowshoe Hare Snaring Licence is required to snare snowshoe
hare.
http://www.gov.pe.ca/photos/original/hunt-sum-2007.pdf

[nell67]

and i didnt say we are trapping now did I. i mean when the winter comes.
Hey don't get so defensive,unless you have a reason to be,if you look at my last post,I edtied it with information that says that in certain areas they can be trapped all year round,read through the whole thread before you get so p'oed

[trax]

I couldn't be bothered checking Saskatchewan's laws for these two, but next door, in Manitoba you can't take coyote by any means, trapping or shooting, without a trapping license and there is definitely an enclosed season with start and end dates. If you want to go out shooting them, talk to any farmers in your neighborhood, they'll be happy to have you out there shooting them as long as you know which direction to shoot and don't kid yourselves, a coyote pack will figure out to get between you and the farmers' buildings when they make a run.

Almost all large animals follow a circuitous path, traveling in circles so they can keep a sense of what might be coming up behind them. Moose do it, wolves do it. Coyotes follow a big figure 8 so they're sort of doubling up on doubling back on themselves,so learn where their "runs" are. Flandersanders, the 10/22 is a good idea, a .22-.250 is a better idea if you can put your hands on one because if you're scoped you can drop a coyote from a lot farther back, .22-.250's got a pretty flat trajectory too. The upside to using traps is no damage to the fur when you go to sell it.

If you're trapping them, winter time is better for a couple of reasons, they're more likely to come to bait because food is getting harder to come by and their fur is going to be thicker, better price for you.

Also, you said in one post that you're not talking about trapping them now, but you'd already said earlier that you've set out traps and bait, so when was that?

If you're going to shoot them, spend 12 bucks or so on a coyote call. There's a real art to calling those guys in, might be something that you'll learn to excel at with practice and you'll be the envy of hunters all over Saskabush.

Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm on the pffft list, scratch all that.

[Ryleyboy]

i meant we have set up baits and nothing is coming in,, sorry i wanst more specific. we dont have any set up right now/.

[trax]

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[Beo]

I don't know what more we can do, we have posted blogs, sticky's, even the regs on Prince Edward Island, and given advise on what to do. What else he wants I don't know. It ain't just gonna jump into his mind on knowledge.
Ryleyboy read post number 12, those are the 2007 regs and 2008 have not changed much and not at all on coyote. Just a thought but there is a season up there.

[Beo]

Ahh here are the 2008 regs for your area, and everyone he is right.

Coyote (in Fur Conservation Areas) Oct. 15/08 - Mar. 15/09
(outside Fur Conservation Areas) Open Season.
Way to go Ryleyboy that speaks alot about you, that you do know what your talking about, thats great (everyone he was correct).
Here's the reg link.
http://www.environment.gov.sk.ca/adx/aspx/adxGetMedia.aspx?DocID=1738,318,246,94,88,Document s&MediaID=938&Filename=2008+Hunting+Guide.pdf

here we have a young man trying hard to learn a set of skills on his own with little to off of so he came here, I trust him, somewhat, to do the right thing and respect him for looking for the infomation. Now let us guide him.
Next question please:D

[nell67]

pssst Beo,I noted in my edit that he was correct,depending on where he lives in Saskatchewan.

[Beo]

Yeah I see, for some reason I like this young man. He may ask alot of questions and be from the school of hard knocks but I'm a senior student there with it looking like I'll never graduate.
He's asking questions, searching the forums and asking more. That's better than him just going out and trying to catch something half azzed, although the stick with nails thing had me worried :D I also posted the same link as you :D great minds think alike.

[nell67]

Absolutely,I understand.

[Ryleyboy]

thanks beo.

[Beo]

Anytime little brother.

[trax]

Ryleyboy, check out that address I posted and I'm sure those fellas will line you up with what you need. If you think they're trying to scam you, come back here and ask before purchasing anything. Beo likes you, he'll help you out.

[Ryleyboy]

How should you skin a coyote? open cased or what?

[klkak]

If your going to sell the hide then you need to case skin them. Even if you want to rug the hide it is better to case it. This will make it easier to flesh on a fleshing beam then dry it on a coyote stretcher. Read up an the drying process because it is a step by step process depending on weather you want it flesh out or fur out. I'd type the precess out for you here but I think you will learn more if you do your home work. I hardly ever mess with coyotes or fox any more. They are to much trouble for the money they bring.

A point I'd like to make about trapping K-9's. I have found that setting up a bait station and keeping it stocked is my preferred way. After the animals start coming into the station I set up their trails with snare's. I will work the station for a couple of weeks while getting another station set up. Then I'll close up all the snare's on the first and open them on the second and so on until I've removed the number of animals I've determined to take out of each area. K-9's have very acute since of smell so you have to be very sterile. Do not walk on the trails that they use and don't wear the same boots you wear daily. Have a special pair of rubber boot you only wear on the trap line.

One other thing. A High quality coyote is only worth about $40. An otter is worth $80. A martin or fisher is worth over $100. and a wolf is worth more then 10 times what a coyote is worth. Beaver are another animal that have a better return for the effort put in to catching and processing them.

Just some thoughts.

[BIG TONE]

I am not a trapper but i do my fair share of snaring.My favorite method is to drive through a grass field or pasture and set the snares in the tracks.They usually trot with their heads down so I set it about 7 or 8 inches off the ground.Good luck!

[trax]

Good posting klkak, also consider, if you're going after furs for money, the wiley lynx and the wolverine. Both are going to bring in big bucks compared to the poor old lowly coyote.