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Without it being a gun or knife, axe or machete, spear or bow, and no multi tools either :D what would you take into the wilderness for food gathering, camp work, and other things those are used for.
Now you can make whatever you want but you can't take any of the above.
Let'er rip people!
Me I'd make snares for food and a stone axe for cutting. and a stone knife. maybe a fishing pole (of course then I gotta eat the fish.. yuk). I'd make a spear and fire harden the tip, for use as a hunting or fishing tool.
a) some kind of cordage that I could use for snares and fishing line
Fargus
08-13-2008, 02:05 PM
A cell phone to call for pizza and beer. Then a taxi to get home. :)
Err, was that cheating?
Gray Wolf
08-13-2008, 02:09 PM
A small folding saw, paracord, flint and striker, a claw hammer, and a coffee can.
Oooo I forgot folding saws, dang.
Gray Wolf
08-13-2008, 02:13 PM
(sound of buzzer) sorry to late... :D
A cell phone to call for pizza and beer. Then a taxi to get home. :)
Err, was that cheating?
no way, long long time ago someone started a thread "what if you could only have one thing..." type, about 5 million people chose knives or fire starters, I said a satellite phone.
Of course, if you got your pizza and beer, are you sure you want to go home? :D
Sourdough
08-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Beo, Every day I am in the wilderness, and I never take anything like survival equipment.
Some extra ammo in my right pocket, my ear plugs in my left pocket, and a "old Timer" folding knife on my belt. A firearm in my hand, that is it.
I am wondering about this survival equipment fascination verses good old woodsman ship, 100 years ago a man did not need 15 survival tools.
that sounds suspiciously like survival equipment to me hopeak. It's to each his own in terms of choice, you must feel you need to have those things or you wouldn't be packing them along.
Those good old fashioned woodsmen a hundred years ago packed along whatever they thought they'd need and I bet a whole lot of them would have been pretty happy to be packing some of the modern stuff we have today.
I agree Hopeak, but it said non of what you carried, so then what would you take.
Ya know I do historical trekking and take only what they used 250 years ago in the 1750s and even up till the Boone and Girty era, so I agree.
Trax of course they would, but they didn't need it.
canid
08-13-2008, 04:21 PM
a 6 pack of beer.
i could drink the beer to feel better about my situation and then make many manner of tools from the glass.
i would also lean towards some fishing line, because let's face it, improvised fishing line is a compared to manufactured mono-filament.
wildWoman
08-13-2008, 04:22 PM
I wouldn't go into the woods that underequipped. I always have food for a minimum of 3 days on me because if I break an ankle out there when my partner isn't around, I don't want to start fiddling with wire snares and fish hooks in the hope of staying fed while working my way back home. Doesn't make sense to me to conciously handicap my chances of getting out of a tricky situation.
Sourdough
08-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Beo, My point is I don't think of any equipment as survival gear. I only take what I need, if I thought I would end up in a survival situation, I would stay at the cabin.
And if I broke my leg, just start crawling. I just see it as people are either doing it, or buying or shopping for some gadget, and confuse doing it with shopping, and pretending
To answer your question: a small package fishing pole, with flies and spinners.
Sourdough
08-13-2008, 04:38 PM
I wouldn't go into the woods that underequipped. I always have food for a minimum of 3 days on me because if I break an ankle out there when my partner isn't around, I don't want to start fiddling with wire snares and fish hooks in the hope of staying fed while working my way back home. Doesn't make sense to me to conciously handicap my chances of getting out of a tricky situation.
What do you take if you and the dogs go for a 6 mile afternoon hike...?
I take what I said. If I go for a 5 day hike I take different stuff, But I never take anything that is just only for survival.
A small child. They work cheap.
Very well put Hopeak, I agree.
wildWoman
08-13-2008, 05:54 PM
What do you take if you and the dogs go for a 6 mile afternoon hike...?
I take what I said. If I go for a 5 day hike I take different stuff, But I never take anything that is just only for survival.
What I cart around with me every day when walking the dogs fills up a small daypack:
leashes and collars
pliers
3 full ranger food rations
bear spray
bear bangers and flares
compass
paper and pen
lighters and matches
small metal cup
long johns, thermal shirt, sweater
socks
rain jacket
ankle brace
2 garbage bags
opinel folding pocket knife
flagging tape
painkillers for humans and dogs
assortment of bandages
some rope
candle
duct tape
bug dope
emergency stove thingie
hand warmers
...I think that's it. Then I add other stuff to it if I'm out on the water, like a whole extra set of clothing, hiking boots, tarp and drysuit. And in the winter I bring yet more stuff in case I go through the ice somewhere.
Not your minimalistic type of bush girl. I just really don't fancy the idea of one day having a bigger problem out there (IMO only a matter of time with this life style) and then being equipped with only an oiled loincloth. Something could happen to me and/or the dogs while out walking any day and even if it's not that far from the cabin - if it makes me immobile or one of the dogs has something, I want to be comparatively comfortable to keep as clear a head as possible to deal with the real problem at hand and not have to start snaring rabbits kinda deal.
My kinda woman:D well kinda I'm a little more primitive in an old fashioned kinda way but then again I don't live where you do.
gourdhead1997
08-13-2008, 06:02 PM
Unfortunately, I am sure that you could find about anything you would need from the trash that others have left behind. I bet you would have to be pretty far off the beaten path to not find tin cans, bottles, trash bags, etc. that one, with a little imagination, could put to a survival situation. My biggest problem would be fire. I wouldn't have any problem making every thing else. I would just hate to have to rely on a bow and drill for heat.
wildWoman
08-13-2008, 06:03 PM
Beo, it's well known that men are more primitive :D :D
(scratch) Hey! who you callin' primitive? (burp).
Sourdough
08-13-2008, 06:39 PM
Unfortunately, I am sure that you could find about anything you would need from the trash that others have left behind. I bet you would have to be pretty far off the beaten path to not find tin cans, bottles, trash bags, etc. that one, with a little imagination, could put to a survival situation.
I never find any trash, or any human foot prints but mine. Never any sign within 100 years, some times I find sign from the late 1890's.
warman87
08-13-2008, 08:13 PM
i would take Bear Grylls he is a tool right?
crashdive123
08-13-2008, 08:16 PM
Nice.......
wallew
08-15-2008, 02:49 PM
Two hookers and an ounce of blow.
Oh, wait, that's only a ONE week supply. :cool:
OK, SO FOUR HOOKERS AND THREE OUNCES OF BLOW.
Should get everybody by until it all 'blows' over. Get it? :D
canid
08-15-2008, 02:51 PM
careful there, this is a public forum and wishes to be family friendly. there are children who read here.
Two hookers and an ounce of blow.
Oh, wait, that's only a ONE week supply. :cool:
OK, SO FOUR HOOKERS AND THREE OUNCES OF BLOW.
Should get everybody by until it all 'blows' over. Get it? :D
No, that's way too complex a level of humor for us primitives, don't get it at all
marberry
08-15-2008, 04:16 PM
a hand angle grinder and a couple hundred batteries for it, make your own knives ,axes and spear points.
Sourdough
08-15-2008, 04:30 PM
In Alaska and other watery places, a 20 foot length of gill net would keep you in fish year around, and yes it works under the ice on lakes, I did it on Lake Clark. It weighs nearly nothing for you who can't carry weight. And it will fit into the small pouch on your rubberized loincloth........:eek:...say'what
So, is a hooker some kind of fisherman? And what's blow? Is that short for blowgun? So how would 4 fisherman and a 3 ounce blow gun help me?
zaebra
08-15-2008, 06:21 PM
my wish list of useful items would be:
slingshot
firestarter (lighter, metal match, etc.)
water container (canteen, bladder, etc.)
water boiling solution (watertight cloth hat, pot, coffee can, etc.)
a parachute. you have shelter, clothing, cordage galore, and all sorts of happy uses. barring that, i guess i'll take a space blanket for comfort.
that should cover food, shelter, clothing, fire, and water. i wouldn't worry about a spear or bow, since it's a survival situation, and i'd just need enough to keep me going while i walked out of where ever it was i was stuck. if i were going to be there for an extended stay, i'd be making more long-term gear, of course.
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