Water Line

[kyratshooter]

Water line is leaking. Riddled with pinhole leaks at this point.

Ain't nothing made to last any more! That line was only put in in 1973! Now I have it to do over.

I'm not digging any ditches this time. Calling a guy with a machine. Money well spent.

[crashdive123]

If you would have done it right the first time.......... Still, almost 50 years ain't too bad.

[kyratshooter]

You are absolutely right Crash!

When I bought this place I ran new plumbing throughout. It works fine.

What was the only thing I did not replace? The main underground feed line.

That is where the leaks are.

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

What size is the main line and what is it made out of?

Alan

[madmax]

I found out we needed a bigger poopy pipe
I found the city sewer 6 ft down. What a *****.

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

The reason I asked is,

I had to replace my main line as well. It was 2” pvc. I just ran 1 1/4” pipe inside the existing line. Only had to dig two holes.

Alan

[crashdive123]

I'm guessing that the supply line is cast iron. Mine was when I replaced it several years ago. With the hard wather we have down here, that 2" line probably had about 1/16" of open area for flow. No leaks that we knew of, but the flow sucked. Our cast iron was put in in the late 50's.

[kyratshooter]

Mine is the old black plastic. It is the kind we used to use to run water lines on the farm for hundreds o9f feet. It is a 3/4" line.

Apparently all the Greenies are wrong! Plastic does not last for 25,000 years before it breaks down!

Lowes, Home Depot and Maenads no longer stock any of the fittings needed for repair of that type plastic line in my area. We used to call it neoprene pipe. Everyone has gone to PEX.

They are even getting away from PVC since the mfgs have backed the warranty on PVC back from 25 years to 10 years.

I have only had to call a plumber once in my life, and that was for a hookup that required a licensed plumber to sign off on the installment.

After crawling under the house about 10 times and finding more leaks each time, and more "old guy pain", I have decided to pay the man and let him take the pain killers. Besides, I don't own a ditch digger.

[Michael aka Mac]

In the past I did all of my own plumbing, even when I built an extension to a house for a bathroom. Now with my back, I cannot bend, or work kneeling (muscles go into a spasm within seconds of kneeling due to nerve damage), so now I call a plumber any time bending/kneeling is required. I should point out, here at my condo we have a plumber on call 24/7 and I only have to pay for parts not labor so screw it-let him do the bending and kneeling...

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

I had a plumber out today clearing a root clog in the main sewer line. Getting rid of the water is much more important than getting it…. I will pay for that every time.

Alan

[kyratshooter]

Wow!!

I have been on the phone all day trying to schedule a plumber.

As soon as I tell them "broken water line in a crawl space" they instantly say "we don't do those!"

They won't even come out and look at it. All say they are covered up with new construction installs and appliance repairs.

One guy told me his guys would quit if he tried to send them under a 50 year old house.

Last guy I called did tell me where I can get the parts I need. That is my last hope. The place is closed tonight so I have to go in the morning.

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

Does the line Have to go back under the house? If not, crawl under there one more time and cap it, then tie in someplace else...




Alan

[crashdive123]

Wow is right. While I never liked going into crawl spaces, it was part of my job and what I needed to do. Sounds like the plumbers in your area are flush with jobs and don't want to take those that might "challenge their skills".

[WolfVanZandt]

Well, I guess that since wet wipes (you know the ones I'm talking about) are "tested with plumbers" they're all out there looking at wet wipes.

[kyratshooter]

I suppose this is a follow up of sorts.

The last plumber that I talked to was at least helpful in telling me where I could find the parts I needed. All I had to have was a section of 3/4" line and two compression fittings. I went to the supply house and bought them yesterday morning.

No place in my area would tell me where to go and get these simple items. They knew where to source them but would not refer any business to them. They generally service the trade but will sell to individuals.

The two compression fittings cost me $90. I would have paid twice that at that moment.

We had such a high heat index here yesterday that I waited until dark to do the work. It is under the house and needs light for entry anyway.

Last night I went under there and installed the patch. It took me an hour.

That was exactly what I had estimated when I first looked at the leak. I knew exactly what I needed and took a week to find it and actually contemplated the possibility that I never would find the two simple parts and would have to dig a new line.


The real lesson I learned from all of this is that I went to university for half my life and acquired several degrees and now realize that I should have been a plumber. They make more money and get more respect. No one ever called me and begged me to come tutor their kids for their SAT test at any price I named!

Tell your grandkids not to waste their lives trying to pay back student loans. Sign up for an apprenticeship program with a good licensed plumber.

[crashdive123]

Amen brother.

[WolfVanZandt]

It used to really tick me off how all my academically challenged clients were being told by the school that they had to go to college or live on the streets. (They keep count of how many high school graduates go to college.) So I'd pull out my home brew "test" that was actually a list of alternatives to college and why they should be considered. It was often an epiphany.

[crashdive123]

The saying "learn a trade and you will never go hungry" was true then and is still true.

[VnVet]

Once I made the mistake of saying to a friend, I'm cheap. He laughed and said I'm calling bull stinky on that. You're not cheap, you're frugal and there's a big difference.

I wanted have a filter installed on our well. A plumber quoted $350. I did some reading and installed it myself. The filter was less than $70 and I added another ball valve under the sink to make it easier than the one already under the cabin. Cost was around $100 or under $70 without the extra lever ball valve.
A nearby lightning strike knocked out the HVAC's thermostat and two ceiling fan controllers. I forget what I was quoted; however, an 80 kA Home Electronics Protective (surge) Device (HEPD) was $92. It came with a how to picture and the only tool needed was a flat blade screwdriver. Plus, the common sense to turn the mains off.

There is a lot I can't do because of the investment in "tools" required. OTOH, there is a lot any of one can do with a screwdriver. :)

[crashdive123]

There is a lot of truth in that. A screwdriver and a Crescent Hammer can accomplish a lot.

For those that were wondering........this is a Crescent Hammer.

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/wrench-isolated-on-white-background-600w-208947070.jpg

[Deimos]

There is a lot of truth in that. A screwdriver and a Crescent Hammer can accomplish a lot.

Indeed. I started my own life with my wife 8 years ago and until now I didn't need to buy any power tool, I can do almost anything that I need with regular tools. Sometimes I wish i had a chainsaw and not only an axe, but I prefer to have a good axe and no chainsaw to have a good chainsaw and no axe.
And I do a lot of things around the house by myself, from mowing the lawn and fixing the ceiling to eletrical repairs and some plumbing.

[VnVet]

There is a lot of truth in that. A screwdriver and a Crescent Hammer can accomplish a lot.

For those that were wondering........this is a Crescent Hammer.



For DIY, YouTube can be a great source. By "can be," I implied read the comments. Often one needs to purchase tools, I had to buy a 10' step ladder to replace the wireless receivers. $20 each with the remote. Testing is easy if the ceiling has a light. The receiver's power in and outputs are marked. To test add a jumper from the power in to the light; if the light comes on, replace the receiver.
The wife input was now you have a 10' step ladder and you can dust the fan blades.

[Deimos]

For DIY, YouTube can be a great source. By "can be," I implied read the comments. Often one needs to purchase tools, I had to buy a 10' step ladder to replace the wireless receivers. $20 each with the remote. Testing is easy if the ceiling has a light. The receiver's power in and outputs are marked. To test add a jumper from the power in to the light; if the light comes on, replace the receiver.
The wife input was now you have a 10' step ladder and you can dust the fan blades.





A good ladder is always useful!

[VnVet]

A good ladder is always useful!

So my wife told me.. LOL

What is it like where you live in Brazil?

[Deimos]

So my wife told me.. LOL

What is it like where you live in Brazil?

Well, it's like a warmer version of Canada. We still have some snow but out winter is like their fall. But it's a lovely place to start a family.

[VnVet]

I've invested time in checking out Paraná; it is very beautiful there. I didn't realize you had some snow there.

We are in NE Georgia, we also get some snow here. This one was the worst we have seen, snow, freezing rain and more snow. The generator ran all night while we watched TV and slept snug as a bug.

12094

My truck, a Colorado ZR2 and her Equinox 2.0 twin turbo.

[Deimos]

I've invested time in checking out Paraná; it is very beautiful there. I didn't realize you had some snow there.

We are in NE Georgia, we also get some snow here. This one was the worst we have seen, snow, freezing rain and more snow. The generator ran all night while we watched TV and slept snug as a bug.

12094

My truck, a Colorado ZR2 and her Equinox 2.0 twin turbo.

I can't see your photo, something went wrong...

[VnVet]

12102

If at first one does not succeed, try, try, again.

That is the second snow we've seen in 6 years..

[Deimos]

12102

If at first one does not succeed, try, try, again.

That is the second snow we've seen in 6 years..

Nice cars. I drive an old FIAT 127 during day-to-day work. We also own a toyota corolla for long road trips, going to church and so on.

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