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Omid
06-09-2008, 08:23 PM
Anyone tried to make a fire with one of them?

I used my dad's really strong ones last summer during the hottest days of my life. It worked on dry leaves.
Jericho117
06-09-2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah I used one before. I carry one in my kit and sometimes on hot sunny days I bring one instead of my flint (to save its strikes). Pretty useful until the clouds come in. I prefer birch bark shavings, dry grass, or evergreen bark shavings for tinder (all dry, obviously). Leaves burn fast but even the dry ones create a lot of smoke and get me sick, so I avoid them. But im more of a friction fire person.
Rick
06-09-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't touch them. I have nightmares about them. Huge, giant ants retaliating by holding me down and turning a huge giant magnifying glass on me in the mid-day sun. I can't take it I tell you. I know I did wrong but what am I gonna do. How can I live with the agony. Oh, the humanity.

Yeah, they work.
crashdive123
06-09-2008, 08:52 PM
I don't touch them. I have nightmares about them. Huge, giant ants retaliating by holding me down and turning a huge giant magnifying glass on me in the mid-day sun. I can't take it I tell you. I know I did wrong but what am I gonna do. How can I live with the agony. Oh, the humanity.

Yeah, they work.

You used to fry bugs as a kid too huh?
Sunshine
06-09-2008, 08:52 PM
I'll admit it, I used to torment ants with a magnifying glass when I was little. I'M SORRY!!! I feel really bad about it now! Anyway, I used to practice catching dry grass, leaves, and even articles of clothing on fire. Today, I use a Fresnel (pronounced "Fray-nell") lens because it works much faster than a magnifying glass, it's ultralight, and very compact.

(PLEASE don't tell the Ant Police what I did!) :eek:
Rick
06-09-2008, 08:56 PM
I will even admit to frying my index finger. Not long, mind you but it did hurt like the dickens.
Omid
06-09-2008, 08:56 PM
everyone torments ants when they are little, with a magnifieng glass, or a glass of water.

oh i just use leaves to get the fire started, they're not the whole fire!
crashdive123
06-09-2008, 08:57 PM
I'll admit it, I used to torment ants with a magnifying glass when I was little. I'M SORRY!!! I feel really bad about it now! Anyway, I used to practice catching dry grass, leaves, and even articles of clothing on fire. Today, I use a Fresnel (pronounced "Fray-nell") lens because it works much faster than a magnifying glass, it's ultralight, and very compact.

(PLEASE don't tell the Ant Police what I did!) :eek:

Don't worry Sunshine, it's not a bad thing. I torment ants for a living now.:D
trax
06-09-2008, 09:03 PM
two words guys: ninja ants


that's right, feel the fear....:eek:
Sunshine
06-09-2008, 09:03 PM
everyone torments ants when they are little, with a magnifieng glass, or a glass of water.



A glass of water? I never did that. I just drew a spit circle around them and kept adding to the circle while the ants went around and around inside the circle. :p
Omid
06-09-2008, 09:05 PM
ooh and make ditches and fill them with water.
Rick
06-09-2008, 09:07 PM
Hey, I have a ninja aunt.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj203/Ferance/Ninja.jpg

She was dating some guy but every time he went to pick her up he couldn't find her. Sad story.
Sunshine
06-09-2008, 09:09 PM
Rick, I asked you NOT to show my picture in public like that!
Rick
06-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Ooops. My bad. Our little secret. Sorry.
dragonjimm
06-09-2008, 10:07 PM
any other *ahem*secrets youd like too share with the class:rolleyes:

i carry a 2 inch square Fresnel lens in my kit too.
Chicago Dan
06-09-2008, 10:48 PM
I carry two. A 2" glass(wrapped in bag) and credit card Fresnel(in mini-kit).
There are many uses other than basic fire starting where they come in handy.
I have fused a seam rip, extracted a few splinters etc. I in general carry them to use when weather permits(fire starting) to save strikes on other kit.

Note: I also have a Jewelers loupe in my medical kit but have never used it in the field(Have used it in a numastic capacity though).
chiggersngrits
06-09-2008, 10:51 PM
sunshine and d-jimm, those fresnel lens look like the way to go. i did some googling on them and you can pick them up pretty cheap. also found a story about some guys who had one 3' by 2' and were melting pennies with it. if i had one of those when i was a kid i'd probably still be paying restitution.:eek:
dragonjimm
06-09-2008, 11:00 PM
that size lens is handy for solar ovens.... cooks a lot faster even with less sunlight.
never considered a jewelers loupe...do carry a small mechanics or dental mirror for those hard to see spots...got a little paranoid about tics one year :eek:

@chicago dan...we dont work at the same plant do we...lol
Chicago Dan
06-10-2008, 01:30 AM
that size lens is handy for solar ovens.... cooks a lot faster even with less sunlight.
never considered a jewelers loupe...do carry a small mechanics or dental mirror for those hard to see spots...got a little paranoid about tics one year

@chicago dan...we dont work at the same plant do we...lol

Never thought about using the large Fresnel lens on a solar oven...
I guess if the focal length was good(not creating a single small hot spot)...I'll have to get one now...LOL

If your interested in a Jewelers loupe get one with a head strap. Yeah you look like a deranged scientist (but no more than a head lamp) but it allows you to work with both hands. Power is a personal thing. I use a 10x but I know guys who swear by 8x or even 20x. I imagine your personal vision has a lot to do with it. I have a focal length issue and the 10x works for me.

@dragonjimm what would give you that idea?...LOL
dragonjimm
06-10-2008, 01:37 AM
that industrial strength TP you have as an avatar.:eek:
Pict
06-10-2008, 06:36 AM
I made a video about making fire with a pair of binoculars. I used my Bushnell Custom Compac binocs and char cloth with a grass tinderball.

Making Fire with Binoculars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4V1yU7K1Rs)

I want to get one of those small frensel lenses for my kit but they are hard to find here. Mac
Rick
06-10-2008, 06:50 AM
I carry a credit card Fresnel in my smaller kit as well. I use it for small work, too, like splinters.

I have both a hand held loupe (10x) and a head mounted (10x). I often take the hand held with me but not the head mounted. We have quite a varied assortment of gem stones in Indiana including gold and diamonds so I've been known to spend some time looking through creek gravel.:D
Jericho117
06-10-2008, 09:12 AM
Nice Ninja..... I burned holes in basketballs and bees with magnyfing glasses but never ants.
Ole WV Coot
06-10-2008, 09:32 AM
I carry a credit card magnifier, strictly for fire making cause I ain't too old to see a gnat on a fence post at 100yds.
Rick
06-10-2008, 09:36 AM
Coot - I don't have trouble seeing that gnat. It's my own fingers I have trouble finding.
Omid
06-10-2008, 01:31 PM
fancy names like fresnol lens... what else will they make?
Beo
06-10-2008, 01:43 PM
Hey Rick, if i had ants like that I leave food all over the damn place.
Rick
06-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Hang on, I have to set out some more bacon.
Beo
06-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Bacon! Bacon! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon! Bacon bacon bacon! Sooooo yummy!
bulrush
06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
I've tried a magnifying lens and fresnel lens. They both work fine in the summer, but it takes longer to work on cloudy days. What seems more important is the time of year you use it. I can never get them to start a fire in the winter.

During the winter the sunlight has to travel through more atmosphere to get to you, and so loses a lot of its energy. In the summer the sunlight travels a shorter path to get to you, and has more energy for your glass to focus.
Beo
06-10-2008, 02:44 PM
[quote=bulrush;54683]
During the winter the sunlight has to travel through more atmosphere to get to you, and so loses a lot of its energy.quote]

Isn't that the purpose of the magnifying lens? To magnify the heat, it will still work.
Sunshine
06-10-2008, 05:16 PM
that industrial strength TP you have as an avatar.:eek:

That's toilet paper for a REAL man, isn't it, Chicago Dan? :D
Chicago Dan
06-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonjimm
that industrial strength TP you have as an avatar.

That's toilet paper for a REAL man, isn't it, Chicago Dan?


Tougher in Alaska? Ha!
Rick
06-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Bulrush - I get what you're saying but it's also on a lower angle. Perhaps that might have some impact.

Hey, Mac! - Aren't you moving into fall/winter in Bolivia? If you are, can you try this out? I just wonder if you rotate the whole thing a bit so the sun is shining directly at the lens if that would start a fire?
Omid
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
my friend was in the pocanos and he didn't have a magnifieng glass. he took apart his cheap 99 cent store flashlight and used the lens in that. He said it took quite a while and eventually he gave up...
crashdive123
08-15-2008, 07:35 PM
The lense on the flashlight is a flat piece of plastic or glass. It will not focus a beam. He may have had better luck trying to focus a beam with the refector.
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