what are you reading currently

[wareagle69]

i know there have been threads on your favorite book or best survival book but what are you reading right now, yesterday i went to a book store in town(used) for a town of 1200 he has a great selection, he also owns two store in thailand(guy looks like frazers dad) any how i was looking for a small engine repair book and saw king on the table the stand the unedited version with and extra 400 or so pages and thought its been 16 years since i read it so i bought it and started again last night, what are you reading..

[FVR]

Guess.


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[dragonjimm]

a kim harrison vampire novel. and a few magazines

[Sunshine]

I'm reading "Twilight" by Stephenie Meyer again. I'm also reading "Deep Survival" by Laurence Gonzalez. What an amazing book!

[Alpine_Sapper]

Umn...Wilderness Survival Forums....Some thread on books. Duh.

[tacmedic]

Collapse by Jared Diamond, and textbooks.

[DOGMAN]

I am currently reading:

"Being Caribou" Five Months of Foot with an Arctic Herd by Karsten Heuer
"Essential Grizzly" The mIngled Fates of Men & Bears by Doug Peacock

Also got the newest issue of Mother Earth News in the mail yesterday and read that last night

[Sam Reeves]

The CoIntelPro Papers

by Ward Churchill
and Jim Vander Wall

[h8mtv]

Happy Endings, tales of a meaty breasted zilch. By Jim Norton.

[LindyLu]

World Made By Hand by James Howard Kunstler...rec. by Glenn Beck & a great book. Another really good one is The Road by ???Macarthy??? Scare ya silly.

[Riverrat]

Just got the new countryside, reading that right now.

[wareagle69]

I am currently reading:

"Being Caribou" Five Months of Foot with an Arctic Herd by Karsten Heuer
"Essential Grizzly" The mIngled Fates of Men & Bears by Doug Peacock

Also got the newest issue of Mother Earth News in the mail yesterday and read that last night

great choices

[crashdive123]

Finished 98.6 Degrees (again) - currently reading America The Last Bes Hope by William Bennett, next on the list is Lone Survivor: The Eyewitness Account of Operation Redwing and the Lost Heroes of SEAL Team 10.

[Beo]

Knights of the Black and White about the Templars, by Jack Whyte. I love the Templars and what they stood for.

[grundle]

Guess.


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Are you reading the biography of Chesty Puller? I hope so, I loved that book! One of the greatest men to ever live.

I am currently reading KGB: The Secret Work of Soviet Secret Agents by John Barron which is sort of old (1974) but still interesting. Also reading The Great Hunt by Robert Jordan.

[Rick]

Knights of the Black and White about the Templars, by Jack Whyte. I love the Templars and what they stood for.

If you figure out what they did with the Holy Grail, give me a call.;)

[Beo]

I just put it in the dishwasher last night, don't hold much beer.

[Rick]

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Zam! That lightening bolt was way to close. Maybe you should just keep it.

[Chicago Dan]

Currently I've been reading a lot of books about dinosaurs, Dora the explorer and Blues clues...then again I have children:D

The last "adult books" were '98.6' which I was disappointed with and 'We the Living' by Ayn Rand.

Next up is:
CIA secrets of "The Company" by Mick Farren

And a trio of WWII genre:
Fly Boys by James Bradley
The Great Escape from Stalag Luft III by Tim Carroll
Ivan's war Catherine Merridale

[Rick]

Why were disappointed with 98.6? I thought it was a great book.

A group of archaeologists went to the former site of Stalag Luft III and were able to find the actual tunnel used by the escapees. If I recall, a couple of British former POWs were with them when they made the discovery. They even found some artifacts used in the construction of the tunnel.

[Chicago Dan]

98.6 was oversold to me. I guess my disappointment was partially a function of that hype. Also I didn’t take to the repetitive nature(I understand it's usage as a teaching tool) and humor(which I did not like). I did not say it was a bad text, it just did not appeal to me. But he did have some information that I just did not agree with...but that is probably true with any text.

In regards to Stalag Luft III. Your right about excavations/GPR etc. There was a show about this on cable a couple years back.

[Rick]

Some of the humor was a bit over the top. Not refined and sophisticated like you find around here. Hey, pull my finger....

[Mountaintrekker]

Wilderness Evasion (A guide to hiding out and eluding pursuit in remote areas) by Michael Chesbro
Building the Alaskan Log Home Tom Walker
And Northern Bushcraft by Mors L. Kochanski

I wanted to start some fiction again, but these seem to be capturing all my attention lately.

[Sourdough]

"LIMITS to GROWTH" The 30 year update.

[klkak]

I'm reading the latest issue of "The Backwoodsman Magazine". I am also reading these "Wilderness Survival Forums".

[laughing beetle]

The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I am reading this book about survival skills... Heres a page that i want to share with everybody.


http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=204

[FVR]

Just finished "A Walk in the Woods" by Bill Bryson. He tells a humorous story of his trek up the Appalachian trail. Good book even though he is a bit of a tree hugger, funny.

Reading bits and pieces of "Hunting with the Traditional Bowhunters of Georgia" by a variety of authors and your truly has three published.

Started reading "1776" but have put that on hold as it's a novel, back burner for now.

Just started "Crow Killer" The true story of Liver Eating Johnson, ya'll have watched the movie Jeramiah Johnson. The movie is nothing like the true story. I read this book every Fall, been doing it for the last 4 years. I think I'm the only one who checks this book out of the library.

Also pick up the SAS handbook and do spot checks on my knowledge.

And last, have to read Black Belt mag., something about that Muay Thai Elbow that is just so fascinating.

[huntermj]

I read A Walk in the Wilderness as well. Very funny. I am now reading In a Sunburned Country also by Bill Bryson. Excellent writer.

[Riverrat]

I am reading a Fur, Fish & Game magazine, as well as modules of a course I am taking, Accident Causation & Investigation.

[chiye tanka]

I've been reading When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin, it's not bad as far as people preping for disaster. Read Lone Survivor and loved it, also Grizzly Years by Doug Peacock, another great book.

[trax]

Cabela's catalogue, it's my wish book

[Gray Wolf]

I am reading this book about survival skills... Heres a page that i want to share with everybody.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=204

erunkiswldrnssurvival, what is the name of that book? Looks interesting.

[Aurelius95]

Finished 98.6 Degrees (again) - currently reading America The Last Bes Hope by William Bennett, next on the list is Lone Survivor: The Eyewitness Account of Operation Redwing and the Lost Heroes of SEAL Team 10.

I read that book last Fall, here's a link to my post.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1153&highlight=lone+survivor

Great book. Just gave me so much more respect for those who serve our country.

I just finished a Stephen Ambrose book on Eisenhower and WWII.

[crashdive123]

Yep read it. It was a good read that painted an accurate picture.

My next read (maybe listen) is one that I haven't read in years. I just won a "door prize" at a function I was attending and won "The Call of The Wild" by Jack London. The case came with a hard cover copy of the book and 6 hours of cassette tapes. This week I have to travel to south Florida for a couple of days, so I'm thinking the 6 hours of audio will just about be right for the one way drive.

[wareagle69]

reading the 54 issues of wilderness way and latest issue of backwoodsman, i am totaly satisfied with wilderness way ya'll just packed full of the best info

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

erunkiswldrnssurvival, what is the name of that book? Looks interesting.
Thanks.SURVIVALUS ARCANUM is the name of the book; A man that I know whom lived in the Carolinas wrote and illustrated, his name is Larry Tzaar. Larry and I worked on a primitive "Forest Farming" project from'95 thru
'02. The book that i have is an original handwork covering topics idealizeing the "forest is my farm" approach to cultivating and obtaining nessary things. its a very interesting book and I will feature it in some more of my posts. To my knowledge there are not any other copys of this book yet in print.

[tacmedic]

Currently reading several textbooks, and Collapse, how societies choose to fail by Jared Diamond.

[Gray Wolf]

Thanks.SURVIVALUS ARCANUM is the name of the book; A man that I know whom lived in the Carolinas wrote and illustrated, his name is Larry Tzaar. The book that i have is an original handwork covering topics idealizeing the "forest is my farm" approach to cultivating and obtaining nessary things. its a very interesting book and I will feature it in some more of my posts. To my knowledge there are not any other copys of this book yet in print.

Where can I get a copy of that book? Even if it's a copy machine copy? There must be more than the 2 you and Larry have. Would you at least show a picture of the front and back cover.

[91g-dub]

Jeep 1980 Technical Service Manual.

Bought a 1980 J10 pickup truck about a month ago and been slowly re-working the systems in it.

[FVR]

Good luck with that Jeep, always wanted one of those. I have rebuilt: a 66 CJ5, 66 CJ6 and a 67 Wagoneer.

I really miss that Wagoneer.

[chiye tanka]

Hey I forgot one. Building the Perfect Survival Kit. It's pretty good and has a lot of great ideas.

[Arkansas_Ranger]

My reading for the day has been limited to this site and my current Popular Mechanics magazine. I've kept up with those, but I've got about four months of Popular Science to catch up. Additionally, I've been reading a book my father gave me eight years ago when I graduated high school - Making the Most of Life by Leroy Brownlow. There are 26 chapters all based on a letter of the alphabet such as Aims, Beliefs, Courage, Diligence, Endurance, Forgiveness, Growth, etc.

[91g-dub]

Good luck with that Jeep, always wanted one of those. I have rebuilt: a 66 CJ5, 66 CJ6 and a 67 Wagoneer.

I really miss that Wagoneer.

Thanks FVR, I got it for $300 because PO thought the transmission was shot. Fixed that easily and for no $. Now just making sure everything else is up to snuff. It's going to be a trail beater so not going for looks.

My Daily Driver is a 1991 Grand Wagoneer, bone stock in very good condition with 135000 miles on it. Too nice to take out on the trails and bash it around.

[Bibow]

one man's wilderness for the millionth time. i read it about 3-4 times a year.

[Ole WV Coot]

Shooting to Live by Fairbairn & Sykes for a quick read again. Also Kill or Get Killed by Applegate also again and again. I like their attitude and to find holes in their theories.

[chiye tanka]

I just got the new issue of Backpacker, The Survival Issue. Now I've liked this mag for a long time but I've got to say, this issue lacks a lot.
I sure do miss American Survival Guide.

[nell67]

Currently reading Native American Healing Secrets.

[Fletcher]

What? No one told me I had to read. Does looking at the pictures count???

[Sourdough]

What? No one told me I had to read. Does looking at the pictures count???

When I was a young man, I never looked at the pictures, I would only read Playboy and Penthouse. They had some good writers, with big..........O'yea, right, with large......Aaa, Aaaa...thingie's....now I remember, yea, ideas.:):):)

[tsitenha]

Mac Bolan novel, but usually Louis L'Amour

[wareagle69]

I just got the new issue of Backpacker, The Survival Issue. Now I've liked this mag for a long time but I've got to say, this issue lacks a lot.
I sure do miss American Survival Guide.

i don't remember, what did american survival guide morph into?

[chiye tanka]

The Self-Reliance Journal or something like that. It didn't last long after that and now it's an on-line magazine.

[Gray Wolf]

Found this:

"Note: Self Reliance Journal went out of business since I wrote this review; extant subscriptions were taken over by Backwoods Home Magazine, which has very similar coverage of say, solar energy and guns. I'll do a proper review of BHM when I get to know it better."

http://www.backwoodshome.com/

[wareagle69]

thats it backwoods home magazine, not to bad of a rag but i only subscribe to wilderness way and backwoodsman

[Gray Wolf]

There are some good articles online there that are FREE. Worth checking out.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/article_index.html

[BraggSurvivor]

Empire of Debt: The Rise of an Epic Financial Crisis by William Bonner and Addison Wiggi

Great read.

[chiye tanka]

Found this:

"Note: Self Reliance Journal went out of business since I wrote this review; extant subscriptions were taken over by Backwoods Home Magazine, which has very similar coverage of say, solar energy and guns. I'll do a proper review of BHM when I get to know it better."

http://www.backwoodshome.com/
That's it, I'm not sure, but I think subscribers felt like they sold out by changing the name. It only lasted about 6 months after the name change which occured when Y2K was a no-show.

[Gray Wolf]

At least Backwoods Home Magazine has been around for 19 years and counting. Only certain articles are online, you have to subscribe for home delivery or get it in a store. But the CD anthologies you have to order online.

[Blood Groove]

Right now I'm reading a good old classic. Woodcraft and Camping by George Washington Sears aka Nessmuk. It's an awsome book/

[chiye tanka]

New issue of Tactical Knives.:D

[rebel]

The Mountain Men. A history and lore of the first frontiersmen by George Laycock.

It has drawings of their equipment and how to use them along with documented quotes from men like Lewis and Clark.

I'm just 43 pages into the book and so far it has covered the fur trade. There is a nice section on beaver trapping. It talks about the primitive traps and how to make and use them along with the steel traps. It has a recipe for the "recipe", a sent attractant.

Anyway, If you can find the book or would like to read mine I'd recommend it.

Preface:
" The mountain man, weathered and wind-bitten, searched out the beaver, sent his packs of furs back to market, and in the process proved himself to be the ultimate outdoorsman. He was a survival specialist in the face of bitterly cold winters, antagonistic Indians and unbelievably powerful bears. He was unsurpassed as a marksman and skilled as a horseman and naturalist.

Typically the free trapper was young when he went to the mountains. He was single, poor, farm reared, and he had long hair, but kept his face shaved, except perhaps for a mustache. He was sinewy, powerful, and possessed of lightning reactions. He was perhaps the finest woodsman the country has ever see, surpassing even the Indian in the mastery of the outdoors.

These beaver trappers pushed back the wilderness frontier. They were explorers who led America into new regions deep in the Rocky Mountains and beyond. Our curiosity about the nature of the mountain men, and how they lived, is as sharp today as ever".

[rebel]

A couple of our regulars comes to mind with the quote from the preface.

[tonester]

im gonna start reading the dark tower series by stephen king.

[rebel]

The Mountain Men. A history and lore of the first frontiersmen by George Laycock.

It has drawings of their equipment and how to use them along with documented quotes from men like Lewis and Clark.

I'm just 43 pages into the book and so far it has covered the fur trade. There is a nice section on beaver trapping. It talks about the primitive traps and how to make and use them along with the steel traps. It has a recipe for the "recipe", a sent attractant.

Anyway, If you can find the book or would like to read mine I'd recommend it.

Preface:
" The mountain man, weathered and wind-bitten, searched out the beaver, sent his packs of furs back to market, and in the process proved himself to be the ultimate outdoorsman. He was a survival specialist in the face of bitterly cold winters, antagonistic Indians and unbelievably powerful bears. He was unsurpassed as a marksman and skilled as a horseman and naturalist.

Typically the free trapper was young when he went to the mountains. He was single, poor, farm reared, and he had long hair, but kept his face shaved, except perhaps for a mustache. He was sinewy, powerful, and possessed of lightning reactions. He was perhaps the finest woodsman the country has ever see, surpassing even the Indian in the mastery of the outdoors.

These beaver trappers pushed back the wilderness frontier. They were explorers who led America into new regions deep in the Rocky Mountains and beyond. Our curiosity about the nature of the mountain men, and how they lived, is as sharp today as ever".

It's such a good book I thought I'd bump it. Has anyone read this book?

[rebel]

I think it describes Hopeak, Coot , WE or Trax with Klkak and JM as the NG's.

[DOGMAN]

I think it describes Hopeak, Coot , WE or Trax with Klkak and JM as the NG's.


NG's??? National Guard's...Native Guides....Naked Gigelo's...Numbskull Grunts

[crashdive123]

I'd go with Naked Gigelo's:D:D:D

[DOGMAN]

Dang, I was hoping it meant Ninja Gunbattlers

[DOGMAN]

thanks, I hope to be heading in the same direction as the aforementioned fellas

[Gray Wolf]

I'm still reading Dick Proenneke's journals (1974-1980), it's 500 pages and I find myself going back and rereading different days in his journals. An amazing man!

I posted this in the General Survival area, but here's the link for those who didn't see it.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/o.../proenneke.pdf

[FVR]

Since I drive alot, I do books on tape. Just finished today, Robert Ludlum, The Tristian Betrayal.

Two weeks back, it was Everast.

I do one or two books a week, depending on how many tapes.

It's alot better than listening to the ever sickening liberal and conservative talk radio. By now, I also tire of the playlists on the rock, country, r&b, and heavy metal radio stations.

[laughing beetle]

Since I drive alot, I do books on tape. Just finished today, Robert Ludlum, The Tristian Betrayal.

Two weeks back, it was Everast.

I do one or two books a week, depending on how many tapes.

It's alot better than listening to the ever sickening liberal and conservative talk radio. By now, I also tire of the playlists on the rock, country, r&b, and heavy metal radio stations.

I hear that!! I have been turning the radio off altogether when I am driving. I get more thinking done that way...:rolleyes:

[bulrush]

Collapse by Jared Diamond, and textbooks.

Didn't he write "Guns, Germs, and Steel"? Fascinating video.

I recently finished "Blood Music" by Greg Bear. A sci-fi novel set in present times. It's about a guy who makes intelligent bacteria and they take over the US.

[wildWoman]

Just finished "Sense and sensibility" by Jane Austen, what a riot...very funny satirical writing. I love the whole obsession with who has how many pounds to live on a year...pounds the currency, not pounds of moose meat.

[trax]

I just happened to be passing through the hallway of a hotel recently and there was a Bible laying right there on the floor! So I picked it up and decided to read that, so far it's pretty good, I hope someone makes a movie out of it!

[chiye tanka]

Ohhh.............:eek:

[FVR]

Just started "South" The Endurance Expedition, by Ernest Shackleton. So far it is pretty good. The intro, they compare the adventure to Into Thin Air and The Perfect Storm. Both books that I have already read and thoroughly enjoyed. Into Thin Air, I not only read, but also listened to on books on tape, twice.

Another good book that I think South falls into it's category is the original account of Moby Dick. Not the fictional tale of Moby Dick, but the true accounts of a ship that the tale was based on. I forget the name this very moment.

Now I remember, The Essex. The true story of what Moby Dick was based on. Talk about sea survival.

[red lake]

Snow Walker's Companion: Winter Camping Skills for the North, apparently the Bible on winter camping

& Tundra by Farley Mowat. It is not actually by Farley Mowat but a collections of journals and logs from those who explored the Tundra region of Canada, Back, MacKenzie, Tyrell and more. Great stories of first contact, in depth survival stories and a few very interesting bits on native fare.

[ryaninmichigan]

Ted White and Blue......

[Arsey]

The Pale Horseman by Bernard Cornwell. A tale about 9th century Britain in King Alfred's reign.
The latest Renew magazine about alternative technology.
and.....Carbine and Shotgun Speed shooting by Steve Moses. There are NO courses available here to learn that kind of thing so I have to find books about it.

[crashdive123]

Do they still allow books about guns in Australia?:eek:;)

[klkak]

I just finished reading Louis L'amour's "Galloway"

The first couple chapters are an incredible story of survival in the wilderness.

Here are a couple lines:

How much can a man endure? How long could a man continue? These things I asked myself, for I am a questioning man, yet even as I asked the answers were there before me. If he be a man indeed, he must always go on, he must always endure. Death is an end to torture, to struggle, to suffering, but is also an end to warmth, light, the beauty of a running horse, the smell of damp leaves, of gunpowder, the walk of a woman when she knows someone watches . . . these things, too, are gone.

[Arsey]

Do they still allow books about guns in Australia?:eek:;)

Apparently so. But that's about all !!

I also just picked one up from the Brisbane Gun show (yawn) about Tactical Pistol Shooting by Erik Lawrence. Looks good too.

[Sourdough]

"Finite and Infinite Games" (A vision of life as play and possibility) by: James P. Carse

[wildWoman]

Just finished "Origins reconsidered" by Richard Leakey and Roger Lewin about the evolution of our species. Interesting and disappointing at the same time; yet more crapola on how animals don't have real emotions and are unable to form ideas and images in their minds. Obviously has no clue about animals and never seen a dog dream in their sleep.

[huntermj]

The secret knowledge of water by Craig Childs. The header on the book reads, There are two easy ways to die in the desert thirst and drowning. So far i am enjoying it. He do not so mush tell you where to find water as much as he makes me feel that i am walking with him on his trips into the desert and hes showing me where the water is.

[wareagle69]

klkak Galloway was great i like to read Louis allot but i need to put time between his books
right now i am reading Canadian horse magazine latest issue just came in the mail, also my first responder handbook, the encyclopedia of organic gardening, and my gas fitter modules(currently module on venting)

[Blaahvid]

Just finished Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography "Infidel". I strongly recommend that everyone reads this book.

[BH206L3]

"The Haj" by Leon Uris. Just finished it for the second time. Read all of his books. Sort of late in the game, picked him up in 2006. Mila 18 is a good one. Of course most of his books are about Israel. Writes very well Start with "Exodus" or you could just rent the Movie.

[Arsey]

For those who are relatively new to handguns and their proper technique I would recommend Tactical Pistol Shooting by Erik Lawrence it is great.

[AVENGED]

I Like To Read But I'm ADD With Reading. I'm Reading Black Hawk Down, Rethinking Evil, I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell.

[Rick]

So, with ADD are you like....Duluth Trading Posts has some pretty good deals on right now and .... Yeah, it was cold.

[FVR]

Finishing up listening to Ludlum, Apocalypse Watch. It's about the 4th Reicht. I think that's how you spell it.

[Runs With Beer]

Backwoodsman.

[Stony]

a Robert Parker novel
a Intrnational Hunting Magazine
Army News
Backwoodsman
FFG
(one in each room)

[FVR]

I prefer FFFG to FFG.

FFG is just too dirty.

[laughing beetle]

just finished One Man's Wilderness. Excellent read.

[A190]

Oklahoma Lawman, the story of Heck Thomas
Interesting Bio of an early Okie lawman and recounts of the arrest and shootouts he was involved in............................Course history is my favorite subject

[crashdive123]

My latest reading has been the city municipal and zoning codes. Really exciting stuff......not!

[wareagle69]

i am now reading blue prints

[Sourdough]

i am now reading blue prints

Odd, I used to make blue prints, the trick was make them so no one could read them. Also make them so they don't work. For example Ram 28.3750 Dia. goes in Ram housing Bore 28.2500 :)

[wareagle69]

now i know where the hospital prints came from, i know every one says this but this is the bigeest cluster fu** i have ever worked on and to think this hospital is supposed to cover northern ontario (look it up kids thats an area bigger than texas)

[huntermj]

I just finished reading The Unthinkable by Amanda Ripley, if you liked Deep Survival you will like this book. She looks at the behavior of people in a disaster situation and interviews the people who lived it. This is the best book i have read on the subject yet.

[trax]

I'm gonna check those out huntermj, thanks.

[BK-72]

Well I like reading fantasy novels, and I just picked up the The Rise of Solamnia series by Douglas Niles. I'm hoping to read all three on my days off over Thanksgiving.

[laughing beetle]

am reading Conagher by Louis L'amore

[fishpole]

one man's wilderness by david p., good stuff right there guys!

[klkak]

The far blue mountains. By Louis L'amore.

[wareagle69]

the latest issue of the backwoodsman

[Rick]

When Wilderness was King. A Tale of the Illinois Country by Randall Parrish. It was first published in 1904.

[Gray Wolf]

the latest issue of the backwoodsman

You're reading over my shoulder again? :D

[laughing beetle]

Hanging woman creek - Louis L'amore

[klkak]

Just finished "Ride the river" by Louis L'amore

[laughing beetle]

"Ride the Dark Trail" was good too, again by Louis L'amore.

[klkak]

"Ride the Dark Trail" was good too, again by Louis L'amore.

I have it. Just haven't read it yet.

[wildWoman]

This one I highly, fervently recommend: "North to the night" by Alvah Simon. He and his wife sail up into the Arctic and plan to spend the winter there, frozen into the ice, on the boat. His wife ends up having to leave and he then spends the whole winter (no daylight) by himself. Really interesting what he writes about the effects of endless months alone and the darkness. It is a truly beautifully written book that you can't put down, and he also makes the land, the animals and the people come alive.
Maybe put it on your Christmas wish list?!

[Badawg]

I'm reading "Hot,Flat, and Crowded" by Thomas L. Friedman, It's about how the convergence of too many people, and not enough resources, and global warming are going to screw us all.

Also "Cadillac" Desert by Marc Reisner. It's about water policy in the western U.S and about how it already screwed us all into debt and caused uncountable environmental damage to the river sheds of the western U.S.

[laughing beetle]

the lonesome gods, by louis l'amore

[AKS]

Castner's Cutthroats is an interesting book (IMHO) about the 1st Alaskan Combat Intelligence Platoon (Provisional), also known as Alaskan Scouts. The book talks about some of their missions and some of the specific survival skills they employed to live through those missions.

[skunkkiller]

nov./dec. issuse of backwoodsman mag. can't wait for jan./feb. issuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FVR]

Pulled out the SAS manual the other night, reviewing the mushroom section. Not that I'm going to eat any.

Listening to books on tape, E is for Evidence. Pretty good.

[chiangmaimav]

I work 1 day a week at English language library run by Chiang Mai Community Church. It is only English language library in Chiang Mai, although there are numerous English bookstores. I worked today and picked up the book A Walk in the Woods as mentioned in this forum. It is very good so far. I am also reading The Sand Pebbles about a gunboat in China in ht e 1920's, and The Cambodia File. People in this forum mihgt like Murder on the Iditarod Trail by Sue henry and the Nevada Barr books. As it is a Christian bookstore there are numerous biographies of missionaries in Thailand, Burma etc. which are very good survival stories. I used to subscribe to Black Belt and tactical Knives in the US but shipping to here is expensive and unreliable. Once in a while I find some local muay thai books translated into English.

[chiangmaimav]

I worked at library today and found some interesting books. One called Nibbled to Death by Ducks, by Tim Cahill, has numerous survival related stories, icluding a very good one about building an ice cave. It is funny like the Bill Bryson book. I also picked up Young Men and Fire about a famous forest fire in Montana which killed 9 firefighters, and Isaac's Storm, about the hurricane which destroyed Galveston in 1900. Also Into Thin Air about climbing Mt. Everest and an Ernest Hemingway novel about hunting lions in Africa.

[reluctantpawn]

I read Charlie Ritchie's Backwoodsman

I am also reading the newist edition of Steal This Book it has some very interesting ideas particularly on urban survival and life on the road.

I thought Wilderness Way was extinct shortly after Christopher Nygeres took it over. He is superb with many of his skills.

reluctantpawn

[pgvoutdoors]

I started reading the book Primitive Skills and Crafts, An Outdoorsman's Guide to Shelters, Tools, Tracking, Survival and More by Richard and Linda Jamison, published 2007.

A very good book on primitive skills, but also a great first chapter on human development. The price is nice as well, only $12.95 retail. Highly recommended for your libraries.

Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Primitive-Skills-Crafts-Outdoorsmans-Shelters/dp/1602391483/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

[crashdive123]

I started reading the book Primitive Skills and Crafts, An Outdoorsman's Guide to Shelters, Tools, Tracking, Survival and More by Richard and Linda Jamison, published 2007.

A very good book on primitive skills, but also a great first chapter on human development. The price is nice as well, only $12.95 retail. Highly recommended for your libraries.

Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Primitive-Skills-Crafts-Outdoorsmans-Shelters/dp/1602391483/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Ha Ha. I just ordered that book from Amazon (last Thursday). I haven't received it yet.

[pgvoutdoors]

It,s a very good book, you wont be disappointed!

[crashdive123]

Great! Looking forward to reading it.

[crashdive123]

The book actually came in today. With sections titled:

Land: Buying It - Building On It
Energy From Wood, Water, Wind, and Sun
Raising Your Own Vegetables, Fruit, And Livestock
Enjoying Your Harvest The Year Round
Skills And Crafts For House and Homestead
Recreation At Home And In The Wild

Looking forward to it.

[pgvoutdoors]

crash, That sounds different from the book I have?

[crashdive123]

OOPS - My bad - this is called Back To Basics - A Complete Guide To Traditional Skills. When I looked at my Amazon list, Primative Skills and Crafts was on the recommendation list. I guess I'll have to take a look at that one too.....after all, Amazon can't be wrong.....can it?

[pgvoutdoors]

I just checked, and that is definitely not the same book. The first couple of chapters are:
Our Human Family
The Ultimate Weapon
Old Finnish Hunting and Fishing Techniques
Primitive Process Potery

[pgvoutdoors]

OK, I think you'll like this one too

[skunkkiller]

The Willderness War. By Allan W. Eckert

[rebel]

I just finished reading The Mountain Men.

There were illustrations of their gear and how they were made if made in the field.
Moccasins, boats, cups and powder horns, etc.

One interesting fact I didn't know was the Apache arrows. The arrows were made from hollow reads with hardwood inserts. The reason for this was, if you tried to pull out the arrow it would break off.

I recommend this book.

[ClayPick]

That’s really interesting about the arrow! Just finished,” In the Company of Crows and Ravens” also, “Water- The Fate Of Our Most Precious Resource”. Right now I’m reading “Handbook of the Canadian Rockies” and “Alone In The Wilderness is in the mail”.

[chiangmaimav]

I just finsihed the book Young Men and Fire by Norman MacLean. It was about the mann Gulch fire in Montana. It is very exciting and tragic story but also very informative about forest fires and how to survive them.

[Stairman]

Natural cures by Kevin Trudeau.

[klkak]

I just finished Louis L'amours "Lando" and now I'm reading Louis L'amours "Lonely on the mountain". His books are full of brass tacks survival.

[doug1980]

Just bought Les Stroud's book "Survive" So far very informative.

[wareagle69]

wildflowers and trees of the algonquin park

[A190]

a second printing of the 1909 book "the southern Cheyenne, a history"
also The west point atlas of WW I

I know boring stuff...............

[RBB]

The Emmigrants and Unto a New Land by Vilhelm Moberg.

Alarming to note the skills and resolve - so sadly lacking in most people today - required to settle a new land.

[MCBushbaby]

A Light in August - Faulker

and then

The Time Machine

[chiangmaimav]

True at First Light by Ernest Hemingway and The Sand Pebbles.

[chiangmaimav]

I just finished Ernest Hemingway's last book, True at First Light, based on his experience lion hunting in Africa. Very good story for people who like hunting and wildlife.

[Sourdough]

I just reread "For whom the Bell Tolls"

[chiangmaimav]

Funny thing is I just put some books together about 10 minutes ago to lend to old British guy to read and one was For Whom the Bell Tolls.

[red lake]

The Cabin by Hap Wilson
Deep Water by James Raffan
Lure of Far Away Places by Herb Pohl
Paddle to the Arctic by Don Starkell
Into the Wild Jon Krakauer

All amazing books with different aspects of survival. Some were successful and some were not but all the above stories are true accounts.

[ride_gnu]

Walden By Thoreau

"It makes little difference wether you are tied to a farm, or the county jail"

[trax]

"Anarchism" George Woodcock

[crashdive123]

The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren.

[tacticalguy]

The Keys of Hell, by Jack Higgns

[tsitenha]

Websters new compact format dictionary, whattt its a book.

[dougz]

Just bought Les Stroud's book "Survive" So far very informative.

Just got it from the library..

It's good, but if you've seen all the Episodes of Survivorman, you've read the book.. :)

[chiangmaimav]

Voice of the Night by Dean Koontz

[A190]

Shop Manuel for 1954 Chevrolet/transmission section..........

[CreekWalker]

Unmentionable Cuisine by Calvin W. Schwabe

Fried tomato hornworms and grasshoppers with a few earthworms thrown in.
Yummy:eek:

[welderguy]

Where there is no doctor by david Werner
revised edition

[FVR]

Tales of the Mountain Men.

Next in line is Jim Beckwourth.

[laughing beetle]

One man's wilderness, again...

[Sourdough]

Ski-doo Skandic, SWT Operator's Guide.....

[Riverrat]

Just got the new copies of Countryside and Backwoodsmen....good reading in both.

[A190]

Bill Tilghman a Frontier Law man

[MCBushbaby]

I've been trying to get through A Light in August by Faulkner but with work and weekends exploring Boston, I haven't gone through 10 pages since November.

[Ole WV Coot]

Re-reading a book called "CREEKER" by Linda Scott DeRosier mainly because I knew everyone mentioned in the book plus dated the author's sister. Brings back a lot of memories in her autobiography and gives an accurate account of growing up in Eastern KY, better times but she tells it like it was and names names.

[RBB]

Some old book printed in 1932 about Colonial furniture, clothing, belongings. Interesting in that it shows how common folks clothing changed over the years as they delt with their local situation in America - though Europe always had a strong influence on fashion.

[Aurelius95]

I like how Cliff Notes advertises on this thread. :)

[endurance]

I can never read just one book at a time. Strange habit of mine, but I'm usually listening to one audiobook a week on my commute and 3-4 other paper books when the mood strikes me for either brain food or escape.

Just bought Cormic McCarthy's The Road on CD, so I'll be listening to that on the way to and from work for the next week or two.

Body Mind Mastery by Dan Millman (about 50 pages in, good, but not equal to some of his other stuff)
The Science of Happiness by Stefan Klein (first chapter, fair to good)
Sport Psychology for Cyclists by Saul Miller & Peggy Maass Hill (about 1/3 in, work related and fair to good)
Patriots by James Wesley Rawles (stuck at about 60 pages in and may not pick it up again. Difficult to read, too much ultraconservative Christianity, and way too much misogyny).
Survive! by Les Stroud (just purchased and next on my list to start)
The Resiliency Advantage by Al Siebert (just started)
98.6 Degrees by Cody Lundin (about 1/3-1/2 in, good, however, it's written for someone without basic knowledge that I gained years ago reading Bradford Angier and Tom Brown. It's also oriented toward a younger generation and I find some of his graphics and style distracting)

[checksix]

I'm with Endurance, I always have several books and magazines going. Currently:

The Shack - just past the part about his daughter's abduction, which really twisted me up. Now onto the healing...
The latest American Rifleman magazine.
Ice Limit (Lincoln Childs)
Quantico (Bear)
The Spring 2009 Park Seed Catalog!
Silent America (Whittle) a book of his essays.
Beyond Fear (Bruce Schneier)

Recently re-read Atlas Shrugged (Rand) which now reads like current events.
Just finished Blood Meridian (Cormac McCarthy) now ready for The Road!

[Ted Foureagles]

Collapse by Jared Diamond, and textbooks.

Just finished "Collapse" after reading Diamond's "Guns, Germs & Steel" (which I swiped from my Dear Li'l Brother, dean o' peace studies). Good reads both, though I think he tends to become just a wee bit over-enamoured of his own notions and misses things.

Currently reading "The Fall" by Steve Taylor -- about the change in psychology of human beans as they evolved from hunter-gatherer societies to syphilisation. Goofy writing, interesting subject. Also reading "Bad Money" by Kevin Philips -- talking about dynamics & history of the current (book is a year old) economic situation. Money is about the last thing I care about, but I'll read anything Phillips writes. And re-reading Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With A Thousand Faces". Read it once some many decades back, and decided to slog through it again.

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[Runs With Beer]

South Moon Under, MARJORIE KINNAN RAWLINGS.

[tonester]

just bought the Zombie Survival Guide. haha funny stuff

[chiangmaimav]

Journey to the Center of the Earth by Jules Verne, Paradise Hotel by Martha Grimes and Far Eastern Tales by Somerset Maugham

[smoke]

I notices you read 98.6 have you read Cody Lundins 2nd book its a pretty good read. And informitive. His school is in the area where I live

[smoke]

I am currently reading Eyes of Eagle by William Johnstone its a great series

[Arkansas_Ranger]

Interpreting our Heritage

[chiangmaimav]

Am currently reading Tony Hillerman novel The Fallen Man. It is a very good story about navajo cops in New mexico, although in one section he writes that the Indian lieutenant takes the safety off his .38 revolver, which of course is inaccurate. if you discount these errors, it is a good mystery.

[Beans]

although in one section he writes that the Indian lieutenant takes the safety off his .38 revolver,

Unless he has one of the "NEW" S&W :fuk2: and uses the key.

[klkak]

I am currently reading "Moose Dropping & Other Crimes Against Nature"
Funny Stories from Alaska
By Tom Brennan.


A snowmachine threw its driver near Selawik, then took off by itself, nobody at the controls, and sped across ten miles of rough country. The local folks rejected the theory of a stuck throttle. They decided the machine was inhabited by an evil spirit and burned it.


A CHEECHAKO (an Alaskan newcomer) charged into the hardware store and cornered the salesman who had sold him his chainsaw.
"I've been trying to cut wood for three days with this thing and it doesn't work worth a damn. I can cut wood faster with a plain old handsaw".
"Let me see it," the salesman said, reaching for the chainsaw. The cheechako followed the salesman into the back room and watched as the man removed the spark plugs and rubbed the contacts with a cloth.
"The plugs look clean as new," the sales man said, then yanked the saw's started cord. The chainsaw roared to life.
The cheechako covered his ears with his hands and shouted, "What's that noise?"

[Mountaintrekker]

World made by hand by James Howard Kuntsler

[Barefoot]

"young men and fire" by norman maclean who is better known for "a river runs through it".

from publishers weekly.....

On Aug. 5, 1949, 16 Forest Service smoke jumpers landed at a fire in remote Mann Gulch, Mont. Within an hour, 13 were dead or irrevocably burned, caught in a "blowup"--a rare explosion of wind and flame. The late Maclean, author of the acclaimed A River Runs Through It , grew up in western Montana and worked for the Forest Service in his youth. He visited the site of the blowup; for the next quarter century, the tragedy haunted him. In 1976 he began a serious study of the fire, one that occupied the last 14 years of his life. He enlisted the aid of fire experts, survivors, friends in the Forest Service and reams of official documents. The result is an engrossing account of human fallibility and natural violence. The tragedy was a watershed in Forest Service training--knowledge and techniques have since been improving--and this work will interest Maclean's many admirers. Photos not seen by PW. 30,000 first printing.

sort of like "into the wild" or "into thin air".

enjoy!

[chiangmaimav]

I also read Young men and Fire and it was a great book. I am currently reading Into Thin Air. For people iterested in alaskan history, I also have a book called The Thousand Mile War, by Brian Garfield. which is about battles fought in Alaska during World War ll.
As for the revolver with the safety, I know what you mean, but this book was written in 1993, which I believe was before Smith and Wesson came out with safety locked revolvers.

[woodsman86]

I just finished "Extreme Measures" by Vince Flynn. It's about a CIA super agent that goes around killing terrorist and corrupt policticians. Crazy thing is he started the series and talked about the threat to the US before 9/11 ever happened.

Now I moving on to Intro to Forestry and some other college class.

[Dennis]

Reading “Camp Life in the Woods and the Tricks of Trapping” Originally published in 1881.

Never seen a book with so many traps in it.

[wildography]

what am I reading "wilderness survival" related?

I just finished reading "Advanced Fugitive" by Kenn Abaygo. It was pretty good... most of it is common sense and experience, mixed with a bit of wisdom... but, it was worth reading... not worth buying, but worth reading.

I've also looked at a few different "survival" web sites... most of them have some OK advice... some better than others... like anything else, you try to learn the good, reject the bad...

[laughing beetle]

Alas Babylon, by Pat Frank. The t.v. show Jericho was based on this book, which is set in 1950's cold war era.

[chiangmaimav]

I just started reading a very good survival book called The Man Who Walked Through Time, about the first man who hiked through the entire Grand Canyon. Also I am reading In the Presence of My Enemies, by Gracia Burnham, who was kidnapped and held hostage in Phillipine jungle by terrorists.

[chiangmaimav]

I just finished reading a book people on forum might enjoy. It is called The Purification Ceremony by mark T. Sullivan. it is an exciting story about deer hunters being stalked by a psycho killer in British Columbia. The main character is a native American woman and there is much information about deer hunting as well as exciting action.

[Scoobywan]

I've gotten into the books by Tom Brown Jr. lately... what I've read so far:

The Tracker
Case Files of the Tracker
Field Guide to Nature Observation and Tracking

I'm almost done with Grandfather
and have The Way of the Scout waiting to be read

I like the way his books aren't just about survival or tracking, but also incorporate the spiritual aspect of the wilderness. Even if you're one of those people who say he's full of sh*t, and this stuff didn't really happen to him, he's still a very good writer and is worth reading.

[Styric]

I am currently reading:

"The Road" by Cormac McCarthy

[Ken]

I'm hungry because I'm currently reading: http://www.thecapitalgrille.com/menu/dinnerMainCourses.asp?

[doug1980]

Just bought into the wild hope it's good.

[Amazon]

I just started "Fear Less" by Gavin De Becker. He also the #1 best seller
"The Gift of Fear".

[Norse&Native]

"The Complete Tracker" by Len McDougall

[grundle]

"The complete guide to country living: A discursive dictionary"

One of the best informational books I have read. Not only does it describe methodology, but it also gives a list of books AND websites where you can find more information on any particular subject discussion. It has been elevated to one of the "must have's" in my collection.

It focuses mainly on agriculture methods (gardening), raising animals, and preserving food. I think that many of these subjects are, by proxy, important for a good survivalist (should things be more long term than we expect.)

[Scratch]

I just bought these books The Vegetable Gardener’s Bible and Saving Seeds and Preserving the Harvest. I am reading them in order of necessity, starting with the Vegetable Gardner’s Bible.

[grundle]

I just bought these books The Vegetable Gardener’s Bible and Saving Seeds and Preserving the Harvest. I am reading them in order of necessity, starting with the Vegetable Gardner’s Bible.

Can you post some sort of review of that when you get a chance?

[Ken]

Can you post some sort of review of that when you get a chance?

Send copies. Q.C. will do it! :yawn:

[bulrush]

I just ordered these on Amazon:
"Wildwood Wisdom"
by Ellsworth Jaeger

"The Field and Forest Handy Book: New Ideas for Out of Doors (Nonpareil Book, 94.)"
by Daniel Carter Beard; David R. Godine

"Woodcraft and Camping"
by George W. Sears Nessmuk;

[grundle]

I just ordered these on Amazon:
"Wildwood Wisdom"
by Ellsworth Jaeger

"The Field and Forest Handy Book: New Ideas for Out of Doors (Nonpareil Book, 94.)"
by Daniel Carter Beard; David R. Godine

"Woodcraft and Camping"
by George W. Sears Nessmuk;

That Nessmuk book is really good. I think it is what got me interested in wilderness survival so long ago. Great read, he really brings the reality of it to the reader.

[FVR]

I am almost finished Tales of the Mountain Men, then I am switching gears to Mario Puzo's The Godfather.

Yeh........need to get in touch with my Italian roots......Fugetaboutit!

[rebel]

The Traditional Bowyer's Bible vol.1

[chiangmaimav]

I am currently reading The River's Tale, which isa bout a guy who spent a year travelling the Mekong River. It is a pretty good travel book. Also reading Behind the Lines by W E B Griffin.

[Styric]

The Traditional Bowyer's Bible vol.1

Great books! I have all of them.

[Styric]

Anyone have literature on Polynesian survival techniques. New Zealand, Hawaii, Samoa, etc.?

[tennecedar]

I just finished ETUK, The Eskimo Hunter. copyright 1950 by Miriam MacMillan.
Wonderful read. Anyone wishes to read it, send me ( pm ) your shipping info and I'll mail it to you. When it gets there it's yours to keep or pass on. I have a few other titles i'd do the same with.

[endurance]

Just finished Life as we Knew it on audio book by Susan Pfeffer. Absolute crap. I can't recommend against wasting your time more than steering clear of this book. The story line is unbelievable, their response to the crisis is unrealistic, the author did no research on her topic, and I gained nothing out of reading it.

Just before that I read Slavomir Rawicz's The Long Walk on audio CD. An amazing story of human endurance of a group of men escaping a Siberian prison camp during WWII. An awe inspiring, apparently true story that had me sitting in my car after my commute every evening just to get to the end of the chapter. I strongly recommend it for both the excellent story telling and for the insight of understanding just how far human endurance can be pushed.

Currently reading The Long Emergency by James Kunstler. It's not as readable as his novel, A World Made by Hand (which I highly recommend), but it is very well researched and almost like reading prophecy. The reason I say that is it was published in 2005 and since that time several of his predictions have come true to a T. Things like the housing and mortgage crisis, the spike in oil prices followed by a rapid crash in oil prices, and the depening recession that follows both events. It's a tad dry, but very informative. I'm about 75-100 pages in currently, but going slow.

Also reading The Survivors Club by Ben Sherwood. No clue, haven't even opened the jacket yet, but I plan on getting started this weekend. Looks a bit like Deep Survival from the book jacket; a survival psychology book.

Currently on audio book I'm listening to Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. Everyone I knew in college read it and loved it, some folks in other forums recommended it, but I'm half way through and not sure what's to love about it. If it weren't an audio book, I would have set it down about five chapters ago. Fortunately, audio books are my cure for a long commute and I seem to care less about what I'm reading, just so long as it's something.

[Rick]

An interesting book by Roland Mueser titled Long Distance Hiking: Lessons from the Appalachian Trail. The guy through hiked the trail in 1989 and handed out questionnaires to other hikers about what kind of gear they used and a whole lot of other stuff. 72 questions in all. He had a section on water purification that I thought everyone might find interesting because we all shout the benefits of treating our water with chlorine. Remember, too, this was 1989.

Water treatment/purification: 59% of hikers never treated or purified water, or did it rarely. Also, the majority of hikers (57%) simply used iodine. The highest rate of people that became ill used chlorine, while the lowest was the iodine users; in the middle is the filtering, boiling, and no treatment crowd. But, other than the chlorine crowd with a 75% illness rate, the rest all come within a few points away from each other's average at about 29.25%.

75% of the chlorine users got sick! I was shocked. Thought you might want to know.

Also, the most reliable stoves used? Alcohol with a 0% fail rate. Pretty hard to beat that.

[FVR]

Just inserted before The Godfather a quick read......The Raggedy *** Marines by Capt. William C. Moore.

Good read, filing it next to Chesty's bio.

[crashdive123]

"One Second After" by William Forstchen. About halfway through it - life after an EMP. It's a novel, but does not seem to be out of the realm of possibilities. Makes me want to stock up a bit more.

[Beans]

The last two books I finished were:
One Ranger and One Ranger Again

These book are memiors of Texas Ranger H. Joaquin Jackson.

I am amost finished with Trigger Men by Hans Halberstadt a story about Our Military Snipers

[tennecedar]

This week I read Tracking & The Art Of Seeing, How To Read Animal Tracks & Sign by Paul Rezendes.

[chiye tanka]

Newest issue of Tactical Knives.

[ClayPick]

The Golden Spruce: A True Story of Myth, Madness and Greed

[mountain mama]

Making the Best of Basics by James Talmage Stevens

tennecedar, is that book any good?

[Rick]

Uh, nothing.

[FLtoAK05]

"The Mystery of the Cache Creek Murders-A True Story", by Roberta Sheldon.

In late 1939, the bodies of four miners were found in the northern part of what was called the Cache Creek district, at the end of what is today the Petersville Road.

I've traveled this area and it's interesting going to some of the old sites/creeks where this took place.

[tennecedar]

Making the Best of Basics by James Talmage Stevens

tennecedar, is that book any good?

Yes Ma'am, I enjoyed it. Since posting, a forum member wanted it and I shipped it off. He said he received it.

This week I'm reading Rodale's Book of Hints, Tips, & Everyday Wisdom.

[FVR]

Finished the The Raggedy *** Marines by Capt. William C. Moore.

One chapt. left on Tales of the Mountain Men.

Pulled out The Dangerous Book for Boys and just picked up In Harms Way aka the sinking of the USS Indianapolis. Then on to The Godfather.

[mountain mama]

FVR if you have any sons, nephews, or whatnot, you will LOVE the Dangerous Book for Boys!

[tacticalguy]

Now I am reading "Temple of the Winds" by Terry Goodkind. It's the fourth book of the Sword of truth series. There's also a show on the books, called "Legend of the Seeker. You might of heard of it.

[Lorna]

I'm getting ready to read Going to Seed. It's receipes for wild plants and a identifying book with color photos.

[endurance]

The Survivor's Club is turning out to be a pretty kick butt book on the psychology of survival. I'm thoroughly impressed. It starts very similarly to Deep Survival, but turns in a different direction about 1/3 in. I personally really liked Deep Survival, so I enjoyed the first part immensely. Then, rather than getting into all the neuropsychology stuff that Gonzales does, he goes into why luck isn't necessarily luck. Very interesting stuff with actually solid, double blind, peer reviewed research on luck. I'm not done with it yet, but I did want to update the group as I think it's a very valuable book on the subject.

I also finished We Die Alone. Another WWII escape survival story along the same lines as The Long Walk, but rather than being about his group's independence and periless journey to get to safety, he has a long list of people to be thankful for. He really did depend entirely on others to survive for much of his journey. Good, but if you have a choice between We Die Alone and The Long Walk, The Long Walk wins.

I've ordered several more books that were recommended by a friend who I recently discovered reads a lot of the same kind of books. I'll keep you updated as I get the chance.

I do a lot of audiobooks on my commute, does anyone else here? If so, any interest in an exchange of audiobooks at any point? I'm more than willing to loan and possibly sell some of mine. Not all are on topic here, but many are or are in some way. Here's a partial list of what I have on CD or tape (with format and my grade):

We Die Alone (currently loaned out so I don't have the author's name) CD B
The Long Walk, Slavomir Rawicz- CD A
Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell- CD F (sorry, too far right & too much exaggeration/gloating for me)
Red Sky in Mourning, Tami Ashcroft- CD B+ (great story, kind of a bad reading)
Mind Body Mastery, Dan Millman- Tape B
Way of the Peaceful Warrior, Dan Millman- CD B+
Lucifer's Hammer, Larry Niven- Tape A
Great World Religions: Islam, John Swanson- Tape C+ (research for work)
The Kite Runner, Khaled Hosseini-CD B (not on topic)
A Thousand Splendid Suns, Khaled Hosseini- CD A- (not necessarily on topic, but good)
Blink, Malcolm Gladwell-CD B
Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell-CD C
I Am America (and so can you), Stephen Colbert-CD B-
Sway: the irresistable pull of irrational behavior, Ori Brafman- CD B
The Post American World, Fareed Zakaria-CD D
The World Without Us, Alan Weisman-CD B

I have a lot more but that's what's within reach at the moment. PM me if you're interested. Right now I'm trying to track down a copy of Touching The Void on CD or Tape.

[mountain mama]

I just picked up "MUSHROOMS of Idaho and the Pacific Northwest" by Edmund E. Tylutki
and "Tom Brown's Guide to Wild Edible and Medicinal Plants" at the library

[Schleprok]

Rereading some old favorites
The Foxfire book series and
Old Mother Earth News Magazines

[chiangmaimav]

Lord of the Bow, which is about Genghis Khan, and a Vietnam war novel called Up Country.

[Rick]

Wait!? Two books at once? Doesn't that sort of read like, "Genghis Khan stood before his people and said, 'Attack the Viet Cong!". Or something like that?

[talon]

The Nazis: A warning from history..

Next on the list is

Angels and Demons and Mein Kampf

[Lorna]

I'm in the process of reading Complete Guide to Herbal Medicines and also the Camping and Woodcraft book by Horace Kephart. Both books very good so far.

[talon]

mein kampf + picture of you = scary.

Are you adhering to neo-nazi sentiments or something ?

Is it Talon as in the talons of an eagle ?


Haha, yeah' as in the Talons of an eagle.. No i'm not a neo-nazi, although I am a blonde hair blue eyed German.

I'm guessing you saw the picture of me holding the baby on the motorcycle? Well the baby's name is Talon.. Mines Tommy (Thomas Frederick).. I assumed Tommy would be taken, so I chose his name as my username. I just like reading about history and find my German history to be very interesting.. Hitler was a brilliant man it's interesting learning about how he thought and some of the meaning in his antics.

[Rick]

Hmmm. Define brilliant. As in let's cause a world war and slaughter millions of innocent folks brilliant or let's see if we can dominate the world for 1000 years brilliant?

[crashdive123]

I just like reading about history and find my German history to be very interesting.. Hitler was a brilliant man it's interesting learning about how he thought and some of the meaning in his antics.

I find German history very interesting as well. Because of the man that you call brilliant, I never met most of my family. They were executed by this brilliant man.

[Rick]

See, you sorta have to define it from the outset. I think I'll go with I'm going to start an army and have them march funny brilliant. But I also like I'm going to wear a stupid mustache brilliant. This is so hard. Oh, I know, I'll have everyone talk in German brilliant. That's a good one.

[Ken]

Hitler was a brilliant man it's interesting learning about how he thought and some of the meaning in his antics.

You gotta' be sh*ttin' me!!!! :sneaky2: He was a psychopath. Evil and depraved to the core of his existence. How he thought? Anyone who thinks the way he did is one sick b@stard and deserves nothing more than painful execution. I only wish we had the BOMB six years earlier........

Wars start when cultures, nations, and religions believe that they are superior to everyone else who they view as mere animals.

Want my idea of who should be eliminated? The answer is simple: anyone who believes that he/she is better than the rest of us and feels it's their right to take our lives, liberty, or property. End of rant.

[talon]

Even though it was evil look what he accomplished. Just the way he took power as chancelor was brilliant. The way he manipulated the German people was brilliant. Hitlers rise in power is part of our history. A bad part, but so was the Genghis Kahn which I also find interesting.

I define him brilliant because of his success. I agree what he did was terrible, but trying to understand his madness is something I find interesting.

Mein Kampf may not be for you, but I would still recomend the first book i mention "Nazis: A lesson from History" It's a very good read.

please dont mistake my curiosity for something it's not I am in no way trying to justify anything he did or say he was a better man than he was.

[Ken]

Even though it was evil look what he accomplished. Just the way he took power as chancelor was brilliant. The way he manipulated the German people was brilliant. Hitlers rise in power is part of our history. A bad part, but so was the Genghis Kahn which I also find interesting.

I define him brilliant because of his success. I agree what he did was terrible, but trying to understand his madness is something I find interesting.

Mein Kampf may not be for you, but I would still recomend the first book i mention "Nazis: A lesson from History" It's a very good read.

please dont mistake my curiosity for something it's not I am in no way trying to justify anything he did or say he was a better man than he was.

I've read Mein Kampf. I've read the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels. I've read Mao's Red Book. I've read My Life by Castro. Why? Not because I buy into that crap, but because I WANT TO KNOW HOW MY ENEMY THINKS.

I suppose that you believe Charles Manson was brilliant too, huh?

Learn your history. Understand WHY Germany "accepted" that madman as it's leader. Understand the Treaty of Versailles. Understand that Hitler persuaded the hungry minority and intimidated the rest. Understand that he ruled using murdering thugs and not reason.

Success? You think Hitler was successful??? Then after you find an acceptable definition of "Brilliant" look up the word "Successful."

When you're done, look up the Balfour Declaration.

Look at what that madman destroyed!!!

"I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations … They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern." John Adams, Second President of the United States (From a letter to F. A. Van der Kemp [Feb. 16, 1808] Pennsylvania Historical Society)

[Ken]

Talon, here's just one thing Hitler destroyed - LIVES!

Did you know that the global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000. Only FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer

World Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - P eter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Robert s
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

TOTAL: 129 ONE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE! And still counting.........

[Ken]

Talon,

regardless of your feelings about Hitler in the last century or the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors today, and even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.

If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

[Schleprok]

We may be reading too much into Talon's post. I believe he's trying to tell us he agrees with everyone here about Hitler being the southern exposure of a north bound mule. But, the rest of it I still haven't quite digested.
Talon, take a moment.
Think it out, and put it into the correct words.
and please, write slowly so I can keep up...

[mountain mama]

I dunno, Schleprok, I don't think I wanna read anymore

[acestor]

Unfortunately history will repeat itself; it always does as we fail to learn its lesson. Looking around today, we see "brilliant" dictators very much alive and who have or who are getting nuclear weapons.

I picked up "The Great Deluge" by Douglas Brinkley in a used book sale and am half way through it. Douglas Brinkley is a historian and lived in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. His description of this tragedy; how the authorities totally collapsed; the mistakes made; and how some heroes emerged among a sea of incompetents is stunning. It is a large book but worth reading.

[Rick]

I understood what Talon was saying from the get go. Or thought I did. I also understand the curiosity to learn what drives men like that. In fact, it's important to understand men like that, to whatever degree we can, so we can spot them more easily in the future. I think brilliant is the wrong word, though. A lot of men (and some women) have ruled by fear and intimidation. That isn't brilliance but tyranny.

Once you finish Mein Kampf, you might try a read like "Hitler's Empire - How the Nazis Ruled Europe". You'll see not only how they built their power base but how they lost it as well. You will also get a glimpse of what Europe might have been like if they had been allowed to continue their domination.

Hitler made a lot of military, political and social mistakes. That they occurred over a relatively short span of time and beneath the dark veil of WWII, helps mask them.

[Alpine_Sapper]

I can see what Talon is saying. It's not the first time I've heard the declaration that "Hitler was brilliant". I've heard all the supporting facts, read the history, blah blah blah. I agree with Talon, but I also agree with the rest of you.

See, while Hitler may have been a murdering madman who's bent for world domination destroyed many people, many family's, and many things such as the art they are still "finding", he also accomplished a lot. I'm not really interested in running down what he did good or, more often than not, bad, but it is undeniable that Europe, and indeed the rest of the world, was forever changed by his actions. In that regard, he was "brilliant". He managed to make a name for himself that will live on in infamy for eternity. Most of the time simply invoking his name in a forum is enough to get a thread closed (oooh, no, he said Voldemort!), mainly because of the reactions to it, just like here. In trying to impose his vision of reality on the world he has earned him the spot, at least for now, of the worlds #1 villain of all time.

Does that mean he wasn't "brilliant"? Possibly. I agree with Rick that it's the wrong choice of words. He was, and I don't think anyone can dispute this, extremely intelligent, and charismatic. Psychotic, sure, but, look at some of the other examples that have been provided. Manson, Ghengis Khan, Ceasar...I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mr. Bonaparte. All of them were dictators bent on world conquest (ok, except Manson. He was just charismatic). All of them were extremely intelligent. All of them, in addition to their destruction, gave the world "things", ideas, concepts, that we never would have had without their "brilliance". Ghengis Khan... If I'm not mistaken, isn't he attributed with the invention of the jerking process, by salting the meat and placing it under the saddle to cure? The short bow? An invention that enabled his people to shoot from horseback while moving, thus allowing him to devastate his opponents? Developments that spawned further invention and ideas...the progression of society.

Talon, I sincerely hope you are honest in your statements that it is simply a fascination with history and the troubled times we've gone through to avoid it happening again. I love that type of history myself. The Nazi's and the Alliance, the murdering bastards and the IRA, the Mongol hoards, the Romans, there is so much we can learn from all of it. But to take the ideology of the sadists in power in Germany during that time period will ultimately prove to be a fatal mistake in your own life and personal development.

Just mho.

And to all those that lost someone during the holocaust, or even during WWII, please don't mistake my words for a sympathetic bent for the Nazi's. My family lost several members fighting those bastards. It's just that I can see both sides of it. Just like 9/11. I watched the whole thing go down from South Korea, and while the reality of the horror of what had happened set in, at the same time, I felt compelled to comment on the organization and professionalism it took for a small group to pull off such an act.

[Alpine_Sapper]

If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

lol. Ain't that the truth? ----^

[Schleprok]

Not to change the subject, but does anyone else read "the Backwoodsman" magazine?
This is a great pub. Believe it is still basically put together on the kitchen table.
Currently I am rereading Volume 29, No. 3.
Just a brief on the table of contents (not complete)
- sling arrow (might be a good thing to know how to make/use)
- making willow furniture
- Woodslore
- fire piston
- making a "frontier" knife sheath
- modern possibles bag
- carve your own wooden utensils
- 10 minute survival kit (altoids tin in the butt of a .22 rifle)
- wild radish
- homemade root beet

and my personal favorite (barter, trade, swap...)
- trading up (story by Stephen Johnson)
story of a young man who finds an arrowhead and makes some outstanding tradeups to wind up with....... nah, don't wanna spoil it for ya!

anyhow, if you haven't checked this magazine out, give it a try.
I originally found it at wallyworld, but most of them don't carry it for whatever reason. Online at backwoodsmanmag dot com

[WillDeerborn]

For Entertainment- Code Name Quickstrike by William W Johnstone (Thought Rockinghorse and Sandman was better)
Previous- Novilization of Pale Rider
Survivalwise- Foxfire 2 3 & 4
These are books from the 60s or 70s that show all sorts of simple livin' techniques.

[talon]

I see some of you understand what I'm saying.. It's not admiration of Hitler at all.. I think he was one of the worst people to have ever lived on this earth. THIS is also what makes him one of the more interesting people to learn about. Maybe brilliant was the wrong word.. but I promise you that your average joe dumbass couldn't have pulled off what he did.

What I mean to say is that Hitler was one of the most skilled orators and leaders of his time. He had a special ability to influence others and motivate them to accept his flawed and immoral beliefs. He WAS a brilliant speaker. He almost effortlessly convinced people against there own morals to follow his blind hatred against the Jewish people.

Hitlers IQ was estimated to be somewhere around 150 which is nearing genius.

I spoke to my Grandmother a few years back about her experience in the 40's living in Germany. Hitler brought Germany out of debt, their economy was flourishing. Germany was once again a powerful nation thanks to Adolf Hitler. She told me life for the German people was great, and as far as the Jews were concerned they really didn't consider them.. This is horrible I know, but it's how the German people were at the time.


So once more as this will be my last post on this topic. I do not intend to make it sound as if I have some type of admiration for this man. I have nothing but disgust for Hitler and what he did. As someone else stated it's merely interesting to try to understand the madness that would drive a man such as Hitler, however, feeble an attempt it may be.

Sometimes when I am writing I have a tendency to ramble a bit. This may cause my words to be able to be easily misconstrued. So I hope this might clear it up a little.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Hitlers IQ was estimated to be somewhere around 150 which is nearing genius.

Mensa qualifies you as a member at 140.

Oh, and from the earlier post, it may have been Atilla the Hun that invented the short bow. Couldn't find the reference either way.