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flandersander
06-08-2008, 01:23 AM
Yes blackening is a scientific term. But in all seriousness is there any way to keep the bottom of pots pans and stainless steel cups from getting black?
dragonjimm
06-08-2008, 05:18 AM
ry not use very green woods or pine (the cones or the wood ) unless you can let them burn to coals.
however a little gojo hand cleaner will remove most of this once youre home
not the gritty kinf but the lotion type smear a little on and let it sit for a moment then wipe clean. old military trick;)
crashdive123
06-08-2008, 06:22 AM
Try rubbing a bar of soap on the outside of the pot before cooking. It'll still blacken, but wipes right off. Remeber though, a blackened pot just looks experienced.
I asked the same question a while back. I use stainless steel (canteen cup, mess kit) and get to spend time scrubbing it with steel wool after each trip. Someone then mentioned soap and it does work but I didn't like the mess with that either. I try to keep my fire hot and use the coals to cook over, which lessens the amount of smoke that will wind up as soot on your pot. As Crash says, it just proves experience.
wareagle69
06-08-2008, 09:45 AM
yup just like twink says i do not cook on a fire i use coals better heat from them of course i also use cast iron so it doesn't matter, if you smell what the rock is cookin
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 10:20 AM
I asked my in-laws and they said that they used to use sort of a metal (steel?) saucer-esque disc under their pots. It had different kinds of ridges and holes in it to disperse the heat in order to keep the pot from smoldering.
I understand why you'd want your pots from turning black, but I agree with Crash - black pots are just seasoned better therefore help your food to taste better. It's like using older cooking oil when frying something. Using the same oil for the 30th time just tastes better... of course, I live in south Louisiana, so I'm used to anything fried. lol
wareagle69
06-08-2008, 10:28 AM
dude did you just quote bear grylls or as like like to call him vylli grnylli
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 10:38 AM
I'm really starting to think that most people are just jealous of what Bear has. Many opportunities to get back to nature and use his training to help find his sense of identity that so many of us would love to do by visiting the world's extremes.
Let's not make this another discussion on that, shall we?
flandersander
06-08-2008, 12:27 PM
Yeah we are good at staying on topic. So is the seasoned pot idea making your food taste better the same as if you grunt when you throw, you will throw harder and faster? KT combra, could you go into a little more detail about that saucerette disk dealy? Sounds like a good idea. I was thinking of using an old BBQ heat distrubuter. One for propane that goes just under the cooking surface. You know what I am talking about?
Alpine_Sapper
06-08-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm really starting to think that most people are just jealous of what Bear has. Many opportunities to get back to nature and use his training to help find his sense of identity that so many of us would love to do by visiting the world's extremes.
Let's not make this another discussion on that, shall we?
Go to youtube.com and search for bear gryllis fake. ;) No body here is jealous, except maybe of the lush life he lives making fake survival videos. I'm not dissing the guy, I'm just saying the general attitude here is what it is because he's a fraud. Well-paid, but still a fraud.
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Let's not make this another discussion on that, shall we?
'nuff said. really don't feel like hearing it, but thanks.
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 01:08 PM
Flandersander, they said that they're not sold anymore. They haven't seen them in years and I don't believe I've ever seen one either. I would imagine anything like a pizza pan with different ridges or whatever would suffice...? I don't know. ;)
Alpine_Sapper
06-08-2008, 01:22 PM
'nuff said. really don't feel like hearing it, but thanks.
lol. Nobody said I play by your rules, homie. You may not like hearing it, but I don't like hearing someone say that I'm jealous of some two-bit wannabe who's only out to make a buck cashing in on what he learned in the SAS. Not that I think the guy doesn't have some skills, but I don't think he's really doing what he says he is on the show, and have seen proof that he's not, and common sense goes even further in that regard.
You seemed to think you could post that derogatory statement and have impunity because you said you didn't want to talk about it. Maybe I do. So if you don't wanna hear it, don't read my post. *shrug* Doesn't make a damn to me.
So go watch your show. Live in your delusions. After all, I'd hate to shatter your sheltered world view with something as awful as truth.
crashdive123
06-08-2008, 02:27 PM
KT and FS - the blackening I was talking about was on the outside of the pot, not the inside - so the food quality shouldn't change. Now seasoning a cast iron pot like WE was talking about - yep - carbon build up on the inside is expected.
dragonjimm
06-08-2008, 03:43 PM
use bacon to season youre cast iron pots.....on the inside...lol
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 03:50 PM
lol. Nobody said I play by your rules, homie. You may not like hearing it, but I don't like hearing someone say that I'm jealous of some two-bit wannabe who's only out to make a buck cashing in on what he learned in the SAS. Not that I think the guy doesn't have some skills, but I don't think he's really doing what he says he is on the show, and have seen proof that he's not, and common sense goes even further in that regard.
You seemed to think you could post that derogatory statement and have impunity because you said you didn't want to talk about it. Maybe I do. So if you don't wanna hear it, don't read my post. *shrug* Doesn't make a damn to me.
So go watch your show. Live in your delusions. After all, I'd hate to shatter your sheltered world view with something as awful as truth.
Let's not make this another discussion on that, shall we?
flandersander
06-08-2008, 03:50 PM
KT and FS - the blackening I was talking about was on the outside of the pot, not the inside - so the food quality shouldn't change. Now seasoning a cast iron pot like WE was talking about - yep - carbon build up on the inside is expected.
Yeah, I know. That is what I am talking about too. Little mix up there, no big deal.
use bacon to season youre cast iron pots.....on the inside...lol
So we're getting into the bacon discussion again are we? So does anybody know if a BBQ heat distributer thing would work? I mean to deflect the smoke but provide adequite head distrubution?
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 03:52 PM
Small question here, Flanders. Are you using any kind of grill to put your pots on or are you putting them right on the coals? Not sure if I missed something or not.
flandersander
06-08-2008, 04:05 PM
You didn't miss anything I forgot to mention that. I am putting them on a grate about 18 inches off the fire. But I would like to know how to protect my pots from both kinds.
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 05:28 PM
Here's a suggestion, that is if you can't find anything like that metal or aluminum saucer thing we were discussing earlier. Try tightly layering the pot's underneath with a couple of layers of aluminum foil. Also, 18" is a good distance. Too close to the fire would ruin the underneath.
Just a suggestion, but try this with foil:
Depending on how fine the grating is (how far apart each bar is from the other), try layering two pieces of foil across the underneath and bottom-most side portions of the pot. Puncture approximately 4 - 5mm holes in each of the two layers of aluminum foil. This will allow the heat to rise up through the foil but keep from burning the pot due to direct heat. Make sure to not line up the holes as this would defeat the purpose of the two-layer system. Here's an amateur picture to help explain it.
http://www.knights-templar.us/board/download/file.php?id=285
I hope this helps. It's worth a try. Let me know. :)
crashdive123
06-08-2008, 05:44 PM
FS I've been using the same coffee pot for about 30 years. I used to set it directly on a bed of coals - now usually a stove. When I first got it I would put shaving cream on the outside (boy scout trick), then used soap, then nothing at all. With the experience that pot has, I fully expect the coffee to be ready when I crawl out of the tent in the morning (unfortunately the coffee pot disagrees).
FS I've been using the same coffee pot for about 30 years. I used to set it directly on a bed of coals - now usually a stove. When I first got it I would put shaving cream on the outside (boy scout trick), then used soap, then nothing at all. With the experience that pot has, I fully expect the coffee to be ready when I crawl out of the tent in the morning (unfortunately the coffee pot disagrees).
Navy style? Same coffee grounds? :rolleyes:
crashdive123
06-08-2008, 05:55 PM
Nah. Since retirement from the Navy I usually try to stay away from grounds that are older than 20 years.;)
Nah. Since retirement from the Navy I usually try to stay away from grounds that are older than 20 years.;)
I was a guest onboard the Sagres once. Great captain and crew. Codfish, mugs of fresh hot espresso, and they served wine with the meal. Buuurp. :p
I will either set my pan directly on the coals or elevate it on a couple of rocks or a couple of green logs. Remember that the further away from the coals you get the more smoke you will have, hence more soot.
KT_Cobra
06-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Yeah, good point. We're saying 18", but I guess we should be specific on the size of the fire too. lol
*holds pot 18" above a lighter's flame*
"What the hell?! Why isn't it boiling?!":D
Sunshine
06-08-2008, 06:41 PM
Does titanium blacken like the stainless steel pots and mugs? I just bought a titanium cooking set but haven't used it yet.
crashdive123
06-08-2008, 06:59 PM
Anything will blacken if soot is being thrown off. Be careful with the titanium and having your heat source to high. The titanium is very thin and things can burn very easily. Takes some getting used to.
If all else fails:
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flandersander
06-08-2008, 07:19 PM
I think I will have to try the foil thing before I buy anything off fleabay. But then again, It might be easier just to wrap my cooking stuff in tinfoil after I cool with it. To protect my stuff.
dragonjimm
06-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Yeah, I know. That is what I am talking about too. Little mix up there, no big deal.
So we're getting into the bacon discussion again are we? So does anybody know if a BBQ heat distributer thing would work? I mean to deflect the smoke but provide adequite head distrubution?
no seriously smoked bacon gives a cast iron pot its best seasoning:D
I dont see why a heat distributer wouldnt work.
flandersander
06-08-2008, 10:25 PM
Thats what I was thinking. And yeah I guess it does. Also tastes good.
Ryleyboy
08-16-2008, 10:22 AM
try putting a old pizza tray or something underneath to protect the bottom of your pot and the pizza one will just get black.
Ole WV Coot
08-16-2008, 09:24 PM
Soap on the bottom of steel, want to separate it from coals and always cook on hot coals. I didn't think anyone cooked over a blazing fire, a piece of aluminum and make yourself a stove. Cast iron was used for the tops of coal stoves and I saw many as a kid. Season cast iron and bacon will work as well, don't scrub the dickens out of it after you season, it will rust. If you want to haul stuff you don't need just rub soap on the outside cook over hot coals only, elevate your pot to your own liking. Ain't no way I would carry cast cookware if I was walking.
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