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On the list. Even California is starting to look good. Well, no. Not really. But starting to.
https://gizmodo.com/avoid-monkeys-in-florida-because-they-could-give-you-ki-1821963329
hunter63
01-10-2018, 06:23 PM
....and they did have snow..LOL
madmax
01-10-2018, 06:52 PM
I hate those little buggers. So does Max.
crashdive123
01-10-2018, 09:07 PM
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edr730
01-10-2018, 11:31 PM
I completely agree with Crash's picture of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. It seems that science is like that at times.
Maurice Hilleman long ago expressed his observations of how monkeys affected the health of humans. His was the undisputed foremost expert in vaccines in the 20th century and any video with his name is interesting.
"Maurice Hilleman was responsible for developing more than 40 vaccines, including measles, mumps, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, meningitis, pneumonia, Haemophilus influenzae bacteria, and rubella.
Microbe hunter, pioneering virologist, and the 20th century's leading vaccinologist"
Faiaoga
01-11-2018, 10:10 PM
On the list. Even California is starting to look good. Well, no. Not really. But starting to.
https://gizmodo.com/avoid-monkeys-in-florida-because-they-could-give-you-ki-1821963329
Wow, man, don't go knocking California. At least CA does not have Burmese pythons and feral monkeys. The only really strange creatures in the state are drivers on the freeways and people on Telegraph Avenue.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-11-2018, 11:20 PM
In the mid 80s I lived on our Ranch near Benavides, TX. There was a research facility somewhere south of Alice, TX that used the Rhesus Monkeys. About 80 of them "escaped" carrying with them the various diseases they were being tested with. Although we were loaded, waiting and wanting to get a shot an some of them, I never recall even one being killed or captured. I guess they all went north looking for work.
Alan
Desert Rat!
01-12-2018, 02:09 AM
The Mountain Lions out here would like to see some of those monkeys :airhorn::nod:
Antonyraison
01-12-2018, 03:03 AM
Thats a bit extreme... imagine we did that here, remove animals that are indigenous to country cause it carries some form of danger.. the entire eco-system collapses..
but yeah, with all the trophy hunting and poaching that does happen..
stop nabbing our elephants, rhinos and lions etc.... anyway... I dont know what impact removal of a species would do there... just a concern.
pete lynch
01-12-2018, 05:54 AM
monkeys are not indigenous to florida
Antonyraison
01-12-2018, 08:45 AM
oh ok, invasive species then... suppose then better remove.
madmax
01-12-2018, 10:57 AM
Yup. Those FL disease ridden pests need to be shot and their bodies cremated. And I like animals.
BUT. "They" have tried this eradication before. The animal lovers howled with no effect. And the eradication effort failed dismally.
WolfVanZandt
01-13-2018, 02:50 PM
Florida and south Georgia are so full of invasive species, if you eliminated them, there'd be no animals and plants there at all.....
Batch
01-14-2018, 01:12 AM
On the list. Even California is starting to look good. Well, no. Not really. But starting to.
https://gizmodo.com/avoid-monkeys-in-florida-because-they-could-give-you-ki-1821963329
We have a colony of about 40 African Vervet monkeys that live in the swamp just east of Fort Lauderdale International Airport.
Does anyone know how they got loose? I find it interesting that a mammal that size is able to acclimate to an area and thrive so readily. They seem to do a much better job than we would do if we were forced into a similar situation. We have all these silly survival shows and these monkeys do it with nothing at all but instinct.
madmax
01-14-2018, 08:20 AM
The Silver Springs Rhesus monkeys were brought to Silver Springs by a glass bottom boat captain to enhance the "jungle" cruise. He heard monkeys couldn't swim and released them onto an island thinking they were contained. Apes can't swim. Monkeys can. They were in the river and on the banks before he even unloaded them all. Ooops. Get 'em Tarzan.
WolfVanZandt
01-14-2018, 10:48 AM
I guess that's another one for....Florida Man!
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-14-2018, 04:30 PM
The word was that animal do gooders allowed the escape in South Texas. Most invasive specie propagations are started by someone "doing good" or they think it would be cool to have piranhas in the lake, or tiger fish in the river, or pretty water hyacinths in the bird bath, or nutria to eat the water hyacinths, or let Monty the pet python go because they couldn't keep him in the apartment any more because he ate Fluffy, or ten thousand other goofy reasons. Hey, lets plant this tree and it'll be the only one in North America!
People don't think. They bring in a plant and a disease it has causes the near extinction of the American Chestnut. Christopher Columbus and all who came after him brought invasive germs that killed 25,000,000 indigenonese in the first 100 years.
Oh well, Monkey, it's what's for dinner!
Alan
Faiaoga
01-14-2018, 05:25 PM
Does anyone know how they got loose? I find it interesting that a mammal that size is able to acclimate to an area and thrive so readily. They seem to do a much better job than we would do if we were forced into a similar situation. We have all these silly survival shows and these monkeys do it with nothing at all but instinct.
You are correct. All you have to do is look at mongoose in Hawaii or rabbits in Australia
For monkeys, look at the small island of Angaur in Palau (Micronesia). The monkeys were brought to Angaur by Germans during colonial times and now are all over the small island. Now, some of the monkeys (macaques) are taken to other parts of Palau as pets and are established in those places.
Many species are very adaptable and can live very well near our human environments. Good lesson for a biology class.:smartass:
Well I get all that. I was just wondering how 40 African Vervet monkeys got loose in Fort Lauderdale (or 20 or 10 or whatever the starting number was). Any of those examples do better than Alone on (name your place) and last a whole lot longer.
I have a tough time making it down the detergent aisle at Kroger. I would never survival the perfume dept. at Kohls. I'd have to kill someone to get out of there.
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-14-2018, 08:53 PM
It helps your chances for survival if you don't mind eating garbage and sleeping in trees.
Alan
hunter63
01-14-2018, 09:34 PM
It helps your chances for survival if you don't mind eating garbage and sleeping in trees.
Alan
You talking about Bear Grylls ?
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-14-2018, 10:04 PM
He should do a show where he takes a monkey with him. They could drink their own or each other's pee and throw feces out of the trees too.
Alan
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-14-2018, 10:19 PM
BG would jump off a cliff into a river and the monkey would be like "Whaaaaaa?"
Alan
hunter63
01-14-2018, 10:51 PM
BG would jump off a cliff into a river and the monkey would be like "Whaaaaaa?"
Alan
Bhohahahaha..Kinda where my thoughts are as well....
Few years back...2002 ....guy brought 32 feral hogs from Texas for his "game farm....."was gonna charge people to hunt them.
Was about 5 mile down river from "The Place"
Had a small Elk farm, but was using state refuge land as well.
DNR says .."No, you have to catch them and take them back"
Guy said "Sure, OK...But they escaped...Whoops
Was arrested, fined like 100K... plus damages for the local farmers
You don't mess with the DNR.....
Not sure if he ever went to jail....but hightailed it back to Texas...
Was cleared in 2008....so 6 years of court
That was about 15 years ago....haven't heard much about them lately.....
Alan R McDaniel Jr
01-14-2018, 10:54 PM
He probably would have gotten the same reaction here. There's a lot that can be overlooked in a man's character before he goes turning loose hogs, wild, feral, or otherwise.
Alan
There are two things you can't get away with doing dirty. The DNR and women. Somtimes women.
Antonyraison
01-15-2018, 01:26 AM
Yup. Those FL disease ridden pests need to be shot and their bodies cremated. And I like animals.
BUT. "They" have tried this eradication before. The animal lovers howled with no effect. And the eradication effort failed dismally.
If it is not indegenous, and causing huge issues... then The animal lovers should see the bigger picture of the effect on the environment it has just being there.
hunter63
01-15-2018, 02:05 AM
If it is not indegenous, and causing huge issues... then The animal lovers should see the bigger picture of the effect on the environment it has just being there.
But...They are soooo cute.....
Manwithnoname
01-15-2018, 09:52 AM
No doubt all of us here are animal lovers but big huge difference between us and the Peta types that would raise hell over a loose tiger in downtown eating everyone being killed. The monkeys and pythons down there need to be irradicated.
WolfVanZandt
01-15-2018, 01:32 PM
No, the big difference is that PETA does more harm than good. A bunch of the idiots once turned a restaurant's stock of lobsters free....into the nearest freshwater river.
I'll bet that went over well. Little lobster voices screaming "Help me!" from their fresh watery graves. Sort of sounded like Clickety click click but you know what I mean.
madmax
01-15-2018, 06:46 PM
I remember that. I picture a buncha skinny men with beards and manbuns and hairy pit women with no bras yelling "FREE THE LOBSTERS!"
Good thing I wasn't there. I'd have heard FREE LOBSTERS and I'd have been line for the meal. Probably got arrested just trying to eat.
Batch
01-16-2018, 12:24 AM
Does anyone know how they got loose? I find it interesting that a mammal that size is able to acclimate to an area and thrive so readily. They seem to do a much better job than we would do if we were forced into a similar situation. We have all these silly survival shows and these monkeys do it with nothing at all but instinct.
They escaped one or two at a time into the swamp from a Chimpanzee Research Facility in the 1950's. Basically a breeding facility that would raise them for research. Then when they were loading them for transport a craft one or two would get out.
You can google and see videos and articles about them. They really haven't posed a problem so far.
Antonyraison
01-16-2018, 01:53 AM
even these types of monkies, in their natural environment are pests, as people want to feed them.. saw this a lot in Richards bay when I stayed there, people visiting on holiday from inland would find them cute stop cars feed them... the monkies would be come used to humans, get into peoples houses and cause a rukus..
Wise Old Owl
01-21-2018, 01:50 PM
Hmm can't catch them and send them back to India & China? Would someone have a problem with that? You bet.
Wise Old Owl
01-21-2018, 02:10 PM
No, the big difference is that PETA does more harm than good. A bunch of the idiots once turned a restaurant's stock of lobsters free....into the nearest freshwater river.
Peta has done far more than that. The main office in Manhattan was infested with rats. It was a hell of a clean up. Peta is a world wide organization that has committed murder and mayhem throughout the world when it comes to our food, clothing and saftey
Here is the book "Terrorism, Radicalism, and Populism in Agriculture"
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/09/peta-takes-heat-over-claims-it-killed-90-of-animals-dropped-off-at-virginia-shelter/
Old Professor
01-21-2018, 06:21 PM
We had a similar situation up here on lake Superior/ Point Abby Peninsula north of L'Anse, with hogs getting out of a "hunting preserve". The owner had a nine mile long, 10 ft high stock fence erected around the property and turned loose wild boar inside the fence. Along came a high windy day (not uncommon on the south shore of Superior) and a number of trees fell across the fence and the hogs escaped! Local residents were not happy, to say the least (nor was the DNR).
The County Law Boys issued a Three S" (shoot, shovel &shut up) To make a long story short, A land conservation organization that I am a board member with, now owns the property. Now we are being pressed by the DNR to remove that 9 mile fence. The estimated removal cost is in excess of one hundred grand.
The fence blocks the traditional winter deer migration route, which is why the DNR wants the fence removed.
WolfVanZandt
01-22-2018, 02:07 PM
They (the government) should offer to remove it - after all they have plenty of money to build walls. No wait - they wanted Mexico to pay for that one. My bad.
rebel
01-26-2018, 09:26 PM
You and everyone know when monkeys fly out.
Faiaoga
01-27-2018, 01:00 AM
The Wizard of Oz had flying monkeys. I wonder when we will see a feral colony of these.:devil2:
When monkeys fly. Oh, wait.....
hunter63
01-27-2018, 12:02 PM
Wayne's World,... Waynes World....Party on, Party on.....
tundrabadger
02-02-2018, 02:29 PM
The word was that animal do gooders allowed the escape in South Texas. Most invasive specie propagations are started by someone "doing good" or they think it would be cool to have piranhas in the lake, or tiger fish in the river, or pretty water hyacinths in the bird bath, or nutria to eat the water hyacinths, or let Monty the pet python go because they couldn't keep him in the apartment any more because he ate Fluffy, or ten thousand other goofy reasons. Hey, lets plant this tree and it'll be the only one in North America!
People don't think. They bring in a plant and a disease it has causes the near extinction of the American Chestnut. Christopher Columbus and all who came after him brought invasive germs that killed 25,000,000 indigenonese in the first 100 years.
Oh well, Monkey, it's what's for dinner!
Alan
That's a genuine problem with turtles of all things. People get the little red eared sliders or whatnot when they're the size of a dollar coin at the store and adorable (all fairness, they ARE pretty cute), and they're not necessarily prepared for how big they are going to get, so then they go "we should return this to the wild". Happened in Britain after the ninja turtles craze, apparently. Among other places....you have to know what you're getting in to with that sort of thing. I would love to say "people wouldn't try and release a dog in to the wild if it got too big", but on reflection that isn't true.
Yeah but Raphael was just too aggressive. That guy had to go.
tundrabadger
02-02-2018, 03:18 PM
Yeah but Raphael was just too aggressive. That guy had to go.
Hey, It's not like nobody was warned. They said right in the theme song "Raphael is cool but crude". You had to expect some rough edges.
I was expecting farts or something when they said crude. He took it to a whole new level. Some place out there in there wilderness is a grumpy, malcontent Ninja Turtle returned to the wild.
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