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Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 09:12 PM
My unfinished, unedited hurricane prep guide. Irma isn't waiting.

One thing that I did learn is that the Cajun Navy uses a free app called Zello. I put it on my phone but have not tried it yet.

Alan


Some things I have noticed during a natural disaster.

• In this age of communication as never before in History, the hardest thing to get is valid information. We had internet as long as the power was on. We had Cell service throughout. I just installed the Zellow app on my phone. It allows access to information going on right now.
• Batteries are still essential but they are not enough any more. You have to have some way of charging cell phones for communication and obtaining information. I have a small “Justin” aux cell phone charger, a small “antigravity” battery charger and jump starter and a large battery pack jump started that will run or charge various devices. These items have to be well maintained and charged for when you need them.
• A (or more) generator is essential. They keep your food cold/frozen, your rechargeable devices charged and provide light and other amenities. They also can be used to run necessary medical equipment. It is important that you use your generator to its fullest. If it is on have everything that it can handle plugged in to recharge while you have it on. I only ran mine two hours every six hours to conserve gasoline and reduce wear and tear on the generator. You must have oil for the generator as well. It is continuous running and will use or at the very least break down the lubricating qualities of the oil. You must have sufficient oil in the machine or it will break and then you have no generator. Additionally, most generators have an oil level cutoff switch that will not allow the generator to run if the oil level drops below a certain point. It will appear to have oil in it but it will not run unless you raise the level. The only way to do that is to add oil.
• A DC/AC Inverter is good to have because you can create 110v AC from your vehicle battery. I have a 2000W Inverter.
• Fuel. You don’t just need gasoline for your car. You need gasoline for machinery (mowers/tractors, chainsaws, GENERATORS, and lanterns (gasoline type Coleman lanterns). If your vehicle or other equipment is diesel powered then you have to include diesel as well. Butane/propane. Butane burners can be used for cooking or heat. Butane BBQ grills for cooking. Butane Coleman stoves for cooking. Gasoline can be stored in regular gas cans or in any equipment that has a gas tank. Fill all equipment gas tanks whether they will be used or not. I filled my tiller tank and I did not intend to till the garden during the hurricane but I had that gas if I needed it. I also have a 27 gal tank on my boat. That is a lot of gasoline that I can use for a lot of purposes.
• Flashlights and lanterns. There are some very inexpensive but very serviceable lanterns and flashlights that have manually windup battery chargers in them. In fact they were the only lanterns that I have that would work, new batteries or not. I have two other battery powered fluorescent bulb lanterns that would not work when I needed them the most. The $12 Harbor Freight windups worked great. You don’t need to light up the world, just enough to see at night. You should have a very good, strong, unbreakable flashlight on hand all the time, which would include hurricanes. Plenty of batteries of all kinds is a must as well.
• Water. Of course buy all the bottled drinking water that you can and use it for that. Secondly, store and mark as such, as much potable tap water as you can. Certainly 5 gallon jugs purchased and kept for that purpose is preferable but any sanitary container capable of holding water should be filled and kept separately from other water. Thirdly, any other container not already in use should be filled with water. This includes tubs, buckets, children’s swimming pools, whatever... for flushing toilets and general washing of muddy items (you will have some mud after a hurricane). You cannot store too much water. One of my friends has an above ground pool. He has 27,000 gallons of water on hand for those non-drinking purposes. But still, you cannot have too much water. And, just because the water comes back on after an emergency situation does not mean it is safe to drink at that point. Having a supply beyond what you will ever need is not a bad idea.
• Food. Food should be of the non-perishable variety. Canned or dried foods. Peanut butter is a good food. Sardines, or canned fish is good energy food and after you eat a tin of sardines, you’re not hungry any more. Food is not really going to be an issue after a hurricane. If you had a freezer then you’re likely going to have some food you have to eat very quickly. Generators are a good thing, but they are not failproof.


List.

• Smart Phone and backup cell phone
• Recharging devices. Justin, Antigravity, 5InOne
• Batteries: D, C, AA, AAA, 9volt
• Generator. 6000W, Tailgators
• DC/AC Inverter
• 5 gal gasoline/day without power + plenty of 2 cycle oil.
• 5 gal diesel for Kubota
• 3 – 5 gal propane tanks. 2 – 7 gal propane tanks. Small bottle charger.
• Fill all vehicles and other equipment
• Two hand crank lanterns. One hand crank flashlight. Mag light. Two small unbreakable flashlights. One large unbreakable flashlight.
• 2 people. One case of water per day without water. Potable water – 5 gal per day without water. Non-potable water – 5 gal per day without water.
• Food. Sardines, crackers, canned goods, dry cereals, dehydrated foods,

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 09:19 PM
While looting and thuggery are problems in urban areas, rural areas do not have that much. During the entire Harvey experience I did not have one single occasion to use, carry or even think about a gun, and I'm pretty much a gun nut. In fact having even a small pistol on my person would have just gotten in the way. It's not a bad idea to have one handy but they are really not that necessary in a rural environment.

Alan

crashdive123
09-05-2017, 09:34 PM
A good list.

Finally broke down and ordered (from Amazon) the generator I've been wanting (Honda eu2000i). It should arrive about when needed (already have two generators) to make things a little quieter if we have a prolonged power outage like last year.

Here's some things I learned (already knew) from my observations today. If you need supplies, get them before a state of emergency is declared for the entire state. I felt kind of bad for all of the people waiting in line for the next pallet of water. I told one distraught shopper --- why not pick up a couple of five gallon containers from the camping section and fill them with tap water? I got that deer in the headlights stare from her.

Water and batteries will go. Stay prepared so you don't have to run out in an emergency.

Gas lines will be long. Be patient and friendly.

I haven't been to Home Depot or Lowe's, but I imagine plywood is in short supply. Once you get it, store it away until it is needed again.

Talk to your neighbors. Work together. Make the best of it.

If you live in an area where traffic options are limited - LEAVE EARLY! If you are still in the Keys tomorrow evening you may be SOL.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 10:11 PM
*Plywood. Well in advance, and at a time when TIME is not of the essence, cut to fit plywood for all your windows, and doors if needed. Store it somewhere. when needed, it is ready. I recently looked at a house that had 5/16 bolts with wing nuts on them around every door and window. #1 wife asked me what they were for. I told her that they were for the plywood sheets that were marked and stored somewhere for hurricane use. THAT is being prepared.

Alan

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 10:18 PM
*Leave early. If you're going to leave this cannot be stressed enough, LEAVE EARLY. Roads clog and resources get sucked up pretty fast. During one of the mass evacuations several years ago, there were people trying to get out of Houston who were running out of gas in their vehicles sitting on the interstate. If you have a place to go get there and stay there. If you're going to be staying in a hotel/motel you'd better go early because for 200 mile from the evacuation center there will be no vacancies. Go with the idea in mind that you may not be able to come back right away. Have a box with important papers, jewelry, keepsakes and CASH in it ready to go. If things get really bad all that stuff won't be there when you come back.

Alan

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 10:20 PM
Right now there is not one sheet of plywood or a gallon of gas for sale in our town. There will be a rush on items before the storm and they won't be there after it.

Alan

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-05-2017, 10:26 PM
Crash, From the computer models I've seen, it appears that Irma is going to wreck the keys and then scrape up the western coastline and tear up something or everything from Pensacola to Tallahassee. Hope you don't have to use any survival skills.

Alan

rebel
09-05-2017, 11:16 PM
Every hotel/ motel within 50 miles of I-75 from FL to ATL is full.

rebel
09-05-2017, 11:18 PM
Bottled water and fuel are running out.

madmax
09-06-2017, 06:36 AM
I can't move my gen around right now physically. We've taken the K.I.S.S. route. Non-perishable food. Plenty of water. Flashlights and candles. Propane camping stoves. We live for months in the summer with no elec. or running water so that part isn't a worry. No plans on bugging out and dealing with that nightmare. Our house has never come close to flooding. It's stood since the early '40s. It'll likely be a cat 2 by the time it hits us in north central FL. Been through plenty of those. My biggest fear are those spin off tornados. No way to prep for those.

crashdive123
09-06-2017, 08:10 AM
Tony, do you want me to head your way and move your genny for you?

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-06-2017, 08:28 AM
Latest revision has it going straight up the middle of FLa. Maybe this cool front will push it on back out into the Atlantic.

Alan

madmax
09-06-2017, 08:50 AM
Tony, do you want me to head your way and move your genny for you?

Thanks Dave. I appreciate the offer. But I think we're ok without it this time around. I need to put it on wheels. It's a big Honda. VERY few hours on it.

We've just never been uncomfortable in primitive mode. It's been cool enough to sleep at night (albeit a little sticky) so...

hunter63
09-06-2017, 01:25 PM
Y'all keep you heads down.....
Don't forget the TP

kyratshooter
09-06-2017, 05:47 PM
I know Alan mentioned it earlier but this is going to be known as the phone app that saved Houston.

Allows use as a walkie-talkie without going through the towers in case cell service is interrupted.

It's free and has features I can not believe are available for a simple smart phone.

I saw the Cajun Navy using these to coordinate during the rescues on the news.


https://zello.com/app

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-07-2017, 05:44 PM
You Florida boys need to check in every now and then if you're not in northern Georgia by now.

Alan

madmax
09-07-2017, 06:01 PM
I don't think anybody's getting anything yet. I found a few big thick books I didn't get to read this summer. Kelly bought a new crossword puzzle book. LOL. It's sometimes the little things.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-07-2017, 06:31 PM
Supposed to get western on Sunday but won't hurt to check in on prep progress. I know it's hard to take time out from battening down hatches.

Alan

Phaedrus
09-07-2017, 08:35 PM
Good luck to you all! Looks fairly likely that it will be CAT5 and hitting FL directly.

el-amigo
09-08-2017, 01:10 PM
Good luck to you all in the region, and stay safe!

hunter63
09-08-2017, 09:56 PM
Any one have gas stored for the trip out?

crashdive123
09-09-2017, 05:22 AM
Don't plan on leaving (but ready to if need be). All vehicles topped of, gas in containers (ethanol free) rotated and fresh. If we have to leave a few cans will go in the truck.

LowKey
09-09-2017, 08:38 AM
Might more need gas and oil mix for Chain Saws just to go anywhere?

Batch
09-09-2017, 09:34 AM
I have been busy getting mine and others houses battoned down. We are good to go.

I got gas on Tuesday and with the 36 gallon tank I was down to 3/4 of a tank yesterday. Lines had been pretty long. And most of the stations had shrink wrapped their pumps in prep for the storm. I found a gas station with very short lines and topped off again.

Since last weekend supplies have been scarce. Everything, canned goods, water, beer, everything has been gone. Plywood and generators especially.

Looks like we dodged a bullet again. Just tightened up my game for the next time! Y'all be safe!

Crash, I have 2) EU2000 as well as a 8550/5550 watt. Those Hondas are awesome.

madmax
09-09-2017, 10:18 AM
Our Honda is a EB6500. Got it dug out from under all the accumulated stuff. Maybe try and crank it today.

kyratshooter
09-09-2017, 10:25 PM
I was at Harbor Freight this afternoon.

Young man about 25 in a 1 ton dualey was loading up two 5k generators.

He said he had been "sent for" by grandparents and an uncle to bring gen-sets down from up here as soon as the storm passed.

He seemed to think it was really neat that people in Florida could wire transfer money directly into is account so he could buy almost $1200 of HF gear on his credit card.

Phaedrus
09-10-2017, 12:18 AM
I'm not religious nor a praying man, but I wish all of you well that are in the path of Irma and can't get out of the way. I wish you all good luck, and maybe the region will catch a break. It looks to be a bad one so hopefully everyone has had a chance to batten down the hatches and get ready.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-10-2017, 07:22 AM
I was at Harbor Freight this afternoon.

Young man about 25 in a 1 ton dualey was loading up two 5k generators.

He said he had been "sent for" by grandparents and an uncle to bring gen-sets down from up here as soon as the storm passed.

He seemed to think it was really neat that people in Florida could wire transfer money directly into is account so he could buy almost $1200 of HF gear on his credit card.

He'd better buy a few fuel cans full of fuel as well if he's planning on taking them in his 1 ton. I had one back in the 80s and it would pass anything on the road except a gas station.

Alan

madmax
09-10-2017, 10:27 AM
Weak outer bands of drizzle hitting Ocala (Marion county) right now. Not much wind. They want everyone off the roads by 3.

I'm grinding coffee, filling 1 gal baggies to put in freezer for ice and water, starting to fill 6 gal water coolers. I found a pie crust. I might make a chocolate pudding pie while the fridge is still fridging. (Well we HAVE to finish it all or it won't be any good).

hunter63
09-10-2017, 11:13 AM
After several power outages in past years....we have cut down on frozen food...
Fine line between a "well stocked freezer" as a Prep....and a neighborhood BBQ to use it up....(Oh and 20 loaves of zucchini bread)

madmax
09-10-2017, 11:33 AM
Yeah. Our freezer has a lot more ice than food right now.

kyratshooter
09-10-2017, 12:41 PM
I had a neighbor that made the decision to use his small generator to provide lights and TV rather than run his deep freezer several years back.

He is still whining over the $2k of food he lost and I am constantly telling him it was a choice he made and not the fault of the power company.

$2k will buy one he!! of a generator!

Batch
09-10-2017, 12:53 PM
I just wish this lady would move along already!So far I lost the fence on almost one entire side of the house.

rebel
09-10-2017, 03:11 PM
The short term mentality of people. It must be wishful thinking to think that everything will be back to normal after a day or two. My FIL says he will get more gas for the generator if he needs it. I'm thinking yea and a few thousand people wanting the same thing at the same time. Ain't going to happen.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-10-2017, 04:57 PM
Conserve everything. You'll have at least a week of not being able to get anything.

Alan

madmax
09-10-2017, 05:13 PM
I'm facing the situation that preppers talk about. 5 people that are close family and friends. 4 elderly and disabled 1 that is not functional on her own. None would go to a shelter. They all have prepped for about 24 hours of no electricity despite my urging to get more. They have no way to cook a meal. Not nearly enough water. I pray they at least stocked up on their meds.

I'm prepped well for 2 not 7. They are split between opposite sides of town. Hopefully we won't lose water pressure or go under a "boil water" alert (Since they have no means of boiling water).

crashdive123
09-10-2017, 06:01 PM
I'm pleased that we still have power. About 20,000 to 30,000 in the area are without it. Impressive winds and lots of rain (about 13 inches so far). We're supposed to get the worst of it in the early morning. Enough food and water for quite some time. I also have a list of neighbors that I need to deliver morning coffee to if the power is out. Hopefully this will be just camping with a comfortable bed.

Rick
09-10-2017, 06:22 PM
Stay safe guys!!!!!

hunter63
09-10-2017, 08:33 PM
Stay safe guys!!!!!

Amen to that...looks nasty on the news.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-10-2017, 09:38 PM
I found that no matter how bad it looks at night…. it'll look worse in the morning. Hoping for the best for all y'all.

Alan

rebel
09-11-2017, 03:57 AM
The power went out here at 1:34am. I was awake. Fired up the genny and plugged in the FIL oxygen thing. I hope the power comes back soon. The noise is a nuisance.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-11-2017, 08:11 AM
We became numb to the sound of generators and chainsaws. I only ran my generator for two hours every six hours. I understand with an O2 generator it has to run constantly. Good luck. At least Irma is moving on to the north rapidly. That's what hurricanes are suppose to do.

Get ready though, Jose is winding up to the East.

Alan

crashdive123
09-11-2017, 10:47 AM
Not much sleep last night. Lots of trees down (won't need to go far for firewood). So far, so good. Rains are letting up, but still getting gusts up to 70. Clean up will start tomorrow.

rebel
09-11-2017, 01:05 PM
I didn't think the rain amount or wind were too bad for our area. Lots of clean up to do. My uncles genny stopped working but we fixed it. Just sitting around keeping the food cool and listening to the radio.

1stimestar
09-11-2017, 05:53 PM
Hang in there Buddies.

crashdive123
09-11-2017, 07:42 PM
Took the plywood down tonight. Will start cutting up downed trees tomorrow (so much firewood - so little storage). Amazingly we still have power (may lose it during the restoration process) with about 290,000 homes in Jax without it.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-11-2017, 07:53 PM
Sounds like y'all came through in good shape. Any time everything can be fixed, it's good.

Alan

Phaedrus
09-12-2017, 01:04 AM
It sounds like much of FL dodged the bullet. As bad as it was it could have been far, far worse.

kyratshooter
09-12-2017, 10:44 AM
It is up here now.

Low temps and heavy rains, 20 mph wind.

Nothing dangerous or exciting.

Another fall storm.

You guys took the brunt, like always.

Watch for the snakes and 'gaters roaming round looking for dry spots.

rebel
09-12-2017, 04:57 PM
Electric came back about 30 minutes ago.

crashdive123
09-12-2017, 08:33 PM
I verified two things (that I already knew) today. After ten hours of storm clean up, I'm not as young as I used to be. And two, the first beer after clean up tastes reaaaaaaaaaaaaaly good.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-12-2017, 10:21 PM
I don't drink any more but I know what you mean on both counts.

Alan

crashdive123
09-13-2017, 06:20 AM
This morning the local news reported that there is a 25 mile back up on I-10 with the "mass migration" of people trying to get back home.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-13-2017, 07:17 AM
I sure hope this all the hurricane problems we have for this year.

Whenever one of these little inconveniences occurs, like a hurricane, when everybody runs for the hills, drinks up all the water and burns up all the gas, I always think to myself, "Lord Help us if anything really bad ever happens." The greater majority of people in this country are totally unprepared for a real catastrophe. Even the ones who think they are kind of prepared are not really prepared, and the ones who think they are totally prepared are probably the most delusional of the bunch, because the think their preparedness is going to count for anything against a mass of unpreparedness.

Alan

Rick
09-13-2017, 08:39 AM
I get tickled at the ones that think everyone is going to be a victim except them. Even with all my preps if it's THAT bad I'm probably going to be bulldozed in the pit with everyone else. I just hope it's not a 'hold my beer' moment.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-13-2017, 09:14 AM
Madmax is in a microcosm of the bigger problem. He's just fine prepped for two in this situation under these circumstances. Boom, oilve-uh-sudden he's got seven to provide for under the same circumstances. He can't just stat eating them (they're probably old and tough) and can't just turn them out.

Fact is there is really no way to prep for a major disaster (EMP, super volcano, etc). But, there are folks who are going golive through it. They are likely going to be those who are the fastest and strongest. The goober hunkered down in a well stocked bunker is going to be thought of as a grocery store.

Alan

hunter63
09-13-2017, 10:31 AM
Madmax is in a microcosm of the bigger problem. He's just fine prepped for two in this situation under these circumstances. Boom, oilve-uh-sudden he's got seven to provide for under the same circumstances. He can't just stat eating them (they're probably old and tough) and can't just turn them out.

Fact is there is really no way to prep for a major disaster (EMP, super volcano, etc). But, there are folks who are going golive through it. They are likely going to be those who are the fastest and strongest. The goober hunkered down in a well stocked bunker is going to be thought of as a grocery store.

Alan

....Provided that "Bunker" isn't flooded......

I just feel bad for all y'all....I/we have not had to deal with anything....yet still find holes in the "preps" when something minor happens...

Storms:....chain saw won't start, or a week ago....gen set wouldn't start....sump pump quit (had spare)......water main break, had water stashed, but looked for alternatives....

Biggie for us was meds. and medical equipment (for others).....

As I watched all those people slogging thru the flood with a tote a few things and a kid or dog....was wondering where all the BOB camping equipment.....along the AR and 2000 round of ammo was being carried.

What the best knife in a flood?

finallyME
09-13-2017, 01:14 PM
My sister in law decided that we needed to have a "prepper" meeting with the family. She just talked about list of stuff and what we need. One of the things we talked about was flooding, although that is very rare for our area, unless we have a very wet winter, and a very warm spring, and you happen to live under the damn of a reservoir. I saw fishing equipment on her list of BOB items, and told her she needed a boat in case it flooded. She thought that was a good idea, so I told her that she NEEDED to get a John boat so that me and her husband can go "practice" primitive food gathering out on the reservoir. Trust me, we NEED a lot of "practice", like every weekend at least.

hunter63
09-13-2017, 01:36 PM
My sister in law decided that we needed to have a "prepper" meeting with the family. She just talked about list of stuff and what we need. One of the things we talked about was flooding, although that is very rare for our area, unless we have a very wet winter, and a very warm spring, and you happen to live under the damn of a reservoir. I saw fishing equipment on her list of BOB items, and told her she needed a boat in case it flooded. She thought that was a good idea, so I told her that she NEEDED to get a John boat so that me and her husband can go "practice" primitive food gathering out on the reservoir. Trust me, we NEED a lot of "practice", like every weekend at least.

Yes....There can be a silver lining.....thinking ahead a good thing.

Rick
09-13-2017, 01:41 PM
Just be careful how far you go with those ideas. Be wary of the 'tipping point'.

http://www.dimitri.co.uk/portraits/portraits-images/mans-face-beaten-up-fight.jpg

kyratshooter
09-13-2017, 01:42 PM
FM, check Craigslist for used boats. You can get some real deals.

The two happiest days of a boat owner's life are the day he buys the boat and the day he sells the boat.

Used boats are cheap, used motors not so much.

Do not close your mind to boats other than the "john boat". In my area you can pick up a good 16' runabout w/trailer for $200-$300. That would move the whole family out during a flood. They are also a more stable fishing platform than a John boat.

A motor will set you back at least $500.

madmax
09-13-2017, 02:09 PM
So we had 48 hours of no power. Piece of cake because we had no damage and very little debris. I made it to my next door neighbors Mon morning against my better judgement to get coffee to them. They were tired and scared (Peak of the storm.) But no one was hungry. That came later. Oh and instead of three there were five. Refugees from church that live in a mobile home. Another trip back and forth with coffee. Couldn't make it to my MIL and SIL's across town. And no cell phone service. Found out later they went across the street to a big house of a friends. They were most grateful for someone else to be with. Kelly went over there Tues morning and this morning with coffee. They said they didn't need any food but I'm pretty sure we'll have them here this afternoon for showers and some hot food. I bet they don't get electricity for a while.

Got TV and internet back about 1:15 pm today. My ex-Marine neighbor behind me prepared well EXCEPT his genny shut off Mon due to low oil. I was able to help him out with a few quarts.

Been saying a lot of thank you's and sending praise to the Man upstairs.

LowKey
09-13-2017, 08:06 PM
Here's the bob camping equipment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4836814/Texas-residents-pitch-tents-ROOF-awaiting-rescue.html

Alan R McDaniel Jr
09-14-2017, 12:01 AM
So we had 48 hours of no power. Piece of cake because we had no damage and very little debris. I made it to my next door neighbors Mon morning against my better judgement to get coffee to them. They were tired and scared (Peak of the storm.) But no one was hungry. That came later. Oh and instead of three there were five. Refugees from church that live in a mobile home. Another trip back and forth with coffee. Couldn't make it to my MIL and SIL's across town. And no cell phone service. Found out later they went across the street to a big house of a friends. They were most grateful for someone else to be with. Kelly went over there Tues morning and this morning with coffee. They said they didn't need any food but I'm pretty sure we'll have them here this afternoon for showers and some hot food. I bet they don't get electricity for a while.

Got TV and internet back about 1:15 pm today. My ex-Marine neighbor behind me prepared well EXCEPT his genny shut off Mon due to low oil. I was able to help him out with a few quarts.

Been saying a lot of thank you's and sending praise to the Man upstairs.

Somebody showing up with hot coffee on a good day is a fantastic thing. On the morning after a hurricane it's an Angel of The Lord bringing manna from heaven!

Alan

Shady Slim
09-14-2017, 07:55 PM
List.

Smart Phone and backup cell phone
Recharging devices. Justin, Antigravity, 5InOne
Batteries: D, C, AA, AAA, 9volt
Generator. 6000W, Tailgators
DC/AC Inverter
5 gal gasoline/day without power + plenty of 2 cycle oil.
5 gal diesel for Kubota
3 5 gal propane tanks. 2 7 gal propane tanks. Small bottle charger.
Fill all vehicles and other equipment
Two hand crank lanterns. One hand crank flashlight. Mag light. Two small unbreakable flashlights. One large unbreakable flashlight.
2 people. One case of water per day without water. Potable water 5 gal per day without water. Non-potable water 5 gal per day without water.
Food. Sardines, crackers, canned goods, dry cereals, dehydrated foods,




Let me add something to your list seeings that we just had Irma go through here last weekend and we were without power for a couple days.

Ice, I froze as much bottle and jugs of water that my freezer could hold and had ample amounts of ice before Irma had come through. We had over a week notice. I had TONS of ice ready.

Candles for light at night. 2 or 3 candles makes a big difference between not seeing and seeing. There is nothing any darker than inside your home when there are no lights in the 'hood for miles around. I could not see my hand in front of my face laying in bed. We Could even play card and board games with the light they emitted.

I had a DC/AV inverter (you mentioned this) that I put to use the first time since purchasing it a couple years ago. It worked well charging up the phones while the car sat in the garage.

Biggest thing ever is to fill the bathtub up with water to flush toilets. Even if you never use it, you can still utilize the water to flush toilets instead of wasting it letting it go down the drain after the fact. Win/win deal there.

Coleman camp stove and extra fuel or a small propane grille to boil water for coffee. Believe me, I would have traded 500 rounds of .22 LR for a cup of coffee on Monday morning.

There are still people who place a running generator inside a home because they do not know any better. A 7 year old girl in Lakeland, FL died because her mother just didn't know any better.

Having fuel tanks in the cars topped off WAY ahead of gas lines. Nothing worse than spending all day in a line at the gas station and then they run of fuel out two cars ahead of yours.

rebel
09-14-2017, 08:34 PM
As I've stated before, we are living in our camper while working on the house. It turned out to be a blessing during irma. We had all the comforts of a self contained small house. A/C, bathroom, lights, kitchen, TV... Living in a hurricane area, I'm going to keep a camper around after the house is finished. We had made evac plans if it looked like it might get bad.

Batch
09-17-2017, 02:03 PM
I usually have 3 people living in my house. This storm saw, at peak 18 people in the house. In addition to 3 cats, 3 dogs, a miniature gerbil, a bearded dragon.

All of the people who stayed are my people and they all brought preps.

I never did lose power. Most of my friends now have power restored. Many, had power restored and then lost it again. But, most have power back on now. My daughter will be out of power for at least a week as they have to work on the underground power lines and they push that till the end. So the current count is 7 people and 3 dogs and a gerbil. LOL

Rick
09-17-2017, 03:45 PM
A miniature gerbil?! Miniature? Isn't that like a tiny little? I mean they aren't that big to start with.

Batch
09-17-2017, 04:00 PM
I stand corrected. It is a Chinese Dwarf Hamster.

Rick
09-17-2017, 05:53 PM
Oh, well, that's different. WT? Shouldn't that be Oriental Little Person Hamster?

hunter63
09-17-2017, 06:08 PM
I stand corrected. It is a Chinese Dwarf Hamster.

Not much to eat .........y'all saving it for a last meal?

crashdive123
09-17-2017, 07:43 PM
hors d'oeuvre...........

Batch
09-17-2017, 11:16 PM
Not much to eat .........y'all saving it for a last meal?

Pitch it out back and catch a lunker snake head! LOL

kyratshooter
09-19-2017, 11:58 AM
Been a couple of days since the last posts here so I was wondering how you guys were holding out. This has turned into a long haul operation beyond the 72 hour kit recommended by the government!

Are the stores/shops back in operation, are the prep supplies holding out, do you need anything.

I will rent a U-Haul and head south if you folks need supplies.

No kidding, I will drive down there. I have shared campfires with you guys and do not intend to have you starve on my watch.

Looks like this next one might brush the east coast in a few days. Is everyone ready for that?

madmax
09-19-2017, 01:09 PM
We seem to be ok and staying in touch with one another pretty well. I had everything come on then the cable and wifi went out again for 2 1/2 days. Yeah boo hoo. Folks still with power in some places.

Good stories coming out of this. The long line of women waiting to take linesmen's clothes home to wash is just one example.

Thanks for the thoughts and offer.

crashdive123
09-19-2017, 08:28 PM
We're good. Still about 10,000 without power in the area. We were without water for a bit. Rain barrel for flushing and about 100 gallons of drinking water available, so no worries.

So much firewood available and so little storage. This winter I'll be burning Matthew and Irma is for next winter.

kyratshooter
09-24-2017, 12:11 AM
As I've stated before, we are living in our camper while working on the house. It turned out to be a blessing during irma. We had all the comforts of a self contained small house. A/C, bathroom, lights, kitchen, TV... Living in a hurricane area, I'm going to keep a camper around after the house is finished. We had made evac plans if it looked like it might get bad.

All this talk and trying to get a newbie set up for emergency living has got me wanting to do some patch up work on the RV out back. A new floor and some fresh carpet and I would be set up for self contained life with a simple turn of the door key and cranking open the propane tank valve.

Actually a new solar panel on the roof would be a nice touch too. Along with replacing all the old light bulbs with LED bulbs and I could power the whole thing on a 1500w inverter.

Rick
09-24-2017, 05:41 AM
In other words, for about 15K you'd have a pull behind trailer? :innocent:

kyratshooter
09-24-2017, 10:44 AM
Come to think of it you are about right.

New floor, new coating on the roof, and new cabinets, a new poo-cart, running a water hose and repair of any cracks and leaks I am sure the water system has developed. We are talking about two weeks work and a couple thousand $$$.

And there is that matter of finding the snake that is living in there.

A good used one would be cheaper.

Rick
09-24-2017, 06:37 PM
Oh, yeah. You did say something about a giant snake skin.

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madmax
09-24-2017, 06:40 PM
I heard sheath and hatband.

crashdive123
09-24-2017, 07:47 PM
Yep. Great sheath opportunities.

Rick
09-25-2017, 06:14 AM
No offense but you guys are weird. You know that right? I see a seven foot snake skin I'm pulling my EDC and backing away slowly. NOT gathering up the skin. That snake might still be around there and harbor some sentimental attachment to its hide. I make it just a few feet and I'm off and running!

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