Huge stump

[Wildthang]

I have a huge stump that I want to remove, and I heard that you can drill strategic holes in it and create a rocket stove out of it whereas it will burn itself from the inside out? Has anybody tried it?

[crashdive123]

Just know where the root system goes, or more specifically goes under.

[JohnLeePettimore]

Just watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQpMqM4fOeI&t=4s

[hunter63]

Ouh Ouh Ouh ...Black powder......Yeah big BOOM....love blowing stuff up.....?

OR tire around stump....?

Or....not near as much fun.....RTU Stump Remover

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[kyratshooter]

You do not have to get as radical as the video shown.

You can drill a 1"-2" hole or three down from the top and then drill holes low to the ground that connect and get air into the vertical holes. Pour some kerosene all over the mess and light it.

It will take a couple of days to burn out a big stump and after it catches the fire will follow the root system as Crash warned.

I have three big stumps about 2' each with long root systems that go under my house. I have hesitated to burn them out due to that.

I was just looking at renting a stump grinder from the local tool guru. They have a tracked industrial sized unit I can rent for $150 per day, and since I have three stumps to remove it would be cost effective for me to do so, since a grinder will remove the stumps very quickly.

I have already been quoted a $1500 price for their removal so I am saving $1350 by renting the grinder. That is unless it gets away from me and grinds its way through the house.

[hunter63]

That is one of two machines that have the warning...."Warning This machine will Freaking kill you"....
The other is a trencher w/4 foot boom.

They charge you for a full day......
1 hour to rent, pick it up, bring it home and unload it......
3 hours of OMG, OMG OMG.....after you start it up.
1 hour to do the job.
1 hour to return it.
2 hours at the saloon....
.....you stop shaking after about 6 quick shots.....(1/2 hour) ...then 1-1/2 celebrating that you are still alive.

Hello, Stump Guy?

[Rick]

I had a neighbor decided to rent one of those. He looked at me and asked...you have a hitch on your truck?

Uh, yeah...no. No, I am not going to go load that thing up for you. No. 'Cause then I would be the neighborhood expert on stump removers. Momma didn't raise no stupid kids. Well, there is my brother but that's a whole 'nuther story.

I think it was Wild Eagle or someone that told the story of building a stump fire that burned back through the roots and set his tent on fire. Woke up in the wee hours of the morning with a fire way too close and way too big.

[hunter63]

I only build them in the winter....

Start a tree on fire at the base...., and it will self feed all night....just kinda sliding down into the fire.....

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[Rick]

Oh, man. No good can come of that!


3:00 a.m.: "Oops. Timber!!"
Neighbor in bed: "Oh, crap. Not again."

[kyratshooter]

I'll rent the machine and park it in front of the house beside one of the stumps just before 4 in the afternoon. When the young guys that still work for a living come home they will see the machine and stop to ask about it.

Before you know it I will have a Tom Sawyer, "hold my beer and watch this" thing going on and the stumps will all be a pile of chips and dirt before dark falls.

My trees don't fall straight into the ground they sort of go sideways and crush stuff as they fall. I have one in the back yard right now that is going to be a 40 foot long campfire before sometime this fall.

[rebel]

I've heard that you can drill holes in the stump, fill the holes with corn and let the hogs root it out.

[Wildthang]

Well a landscaper guy quoted me $350 to remove it, I'm thinking I can do it cheaper than that! But I sure don't want to burn the house down either!!! It is only about 10 feet from the house with a major root heading toward the house!

[kyratshooter]

Well a landscaper guy quoted me $350 to remove it, I'm thinking I can do it cheaper than that! But I sure don't want to burn the house down either!!! It is only about 10 feet from the house with a major root heading toward the house!

What's the deductible on your fire insurance?

I bet it's more than $350!

[edr730]

It is possible to dig your stump out. It should take all day if you can dig pretty fair. Usually there is at least one space between the roots you can dig a deep hole and drag the dirt from around all the roots to the hole then take out the dirt. If I did another, which I don't think I will, I would use a garden hose to wash the dirt out from under all those roots, then use the chain saw on the clean roots. It would all be tough to do in heavy clay. It's not easy in sand, but I've done much harder work.
The people I know who used to farm new ground with mules and lots of stumps just left them there and hoed off the suckers from the stumps till they rotted.
I never tried burning them out only because the older folks told me it wouldn't work very good. I never saw (except on the internet) drilling the holes in it to make a draft and fan the fire. I would suspect the stump fire would usually go out when the holes burned out. Sort of like throwing one big log on the coals in the wood stove and thinking it would burn all night...it won't.
I did see something on the internet that seems like it should burn them out. They used a fan or a leaf blower to feed enough oxygen to the stump fire. You can just use a garden hose and soda to put it out when you're done. Then cover it with dirt to mske sure there are no tunnels to feed oxygen to the fire.

[hunter63]

Had a big cotton wood tree cut down in the backyard.....20 years ago.

Must have been 80 ft tall...(bucket truck had 60ft boom)...and the guy crawled out with climbers and ropes.

Had the stump ground out ....the roots are still rotting underground and caving in...which I have been filling in.

I can't see how a green stump can burn very well even with holes and an accelerant....or the roots?

Anyway let us know how you make out.......

[Rick]

Dig a tree stump out in a day?

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Wiping tears out of eyes. Okay. No seriously. With a stump grinder. Sure. I'm a guy that has to think about paying a kid to take the mail to the mailbox at the end of the drive. Or back the truck the 25 feet there.

[hunter63]

That is funny.....did a couple back in the day....to put in a brick patio..
Never again.
Two others have... "water feature"...on one stump....and a "wishing well" in the other...those stumps are still there.

[randyt]

the best way is to drill some holes in the dirt at a angle around the perimeter of the stump. Drill them deep, 5 foot or so. Fill these holes with grain, then put a electric fence around the stump and turn in a few hogs. They will root the stump out for you. This is the "green" method.

[kyratshooter]

Dig a tree stump out in a day?

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Wiping tears out of eyes. Okay. No seriously. With a stump grinder. Sure. I'm a guy that has to think about paying a kid to take the mail to the mailbox at the end of the drive. Or back the truck the 25 feet there.

Yea, what he said!

If I can't get a grinder those stumps will be there for the next guy to worry about. Only reason I am worrying with them now is they are a pain to mow around. If I am not willing to weed eat around them I am sure not digging them out by hand, and I am fresh out of hogs right now, have been for some time.

[hunter63]

How is a Harley gonna pull a stump?

[crashdive123]

Dig out a stump? Well.................if it's on the internet it must be true.............just not at my homestead.

[randyt]

I'm always awed when traveling through farm country around my area. Most of those stumps were removed back in the day before tractors and such. Team of horses and brute labor.

[edr730]

Yep, I've dug out stumps. And probably lots of other things that people from the city would think is too hard of work...or impossible. At 66 I'd dig them out every day for $350.

[randyt]

I find them easier to dig out if the tree is cut off about 4 foot from the ground, it gives a good lever to tug on with the tractor or truck

[hunter63]

Yep, I've dug out stumps. And probably lots of other things that people from the city would think is too hard of work...or impossible. At 66 I'd dig them out every day for $350.

You may have yourself a job......what do you think....?

Another stump story....
Had a "stub ag access road" put in in 1990 to get on my property.....was real steep...but as an Ag access road...didn't have to conform to any codes.....driveways you do.

Anyway, came in from the road and had a tight right hand turn...to my hill road.

Had a big box elder tree to the right, in the ditch on the inside side of the turn.

2004 ...Had my digger guy change the stub road to come in straight form the west....so as to get the cabin hauled in a straighter shot.

Had to cut the tree down....left a stump about 20" in dia.....and seem to defy any attempt to rot it out.
Holes drilled ...stump rot, salt.... more holes...
THe stump wasn't the only problem... it sent up sucker every year....and I would shoot them down....every year.

Year before last...the fiber optic people were putting in their lines........but the first location was right at the end of my driveway.

Walked up there and ask them if they really want to put a connection tower there?.....as the fire number post has been hit by the snow plow every winter...right next to it.

The called their boss...and agreed that maybe down along side may be a better spot?

So as they had a hoe there...ask them to dig out that stump...as it was right next to it.

Guy left it there....but dumped some stuff on it....was completely gone in a month....

GOOD STUFF.....LOL

[edr730]

For sure. Or the bulldozer....lol. When they are cut off short, it's tough and the dozer driver is perturbed or you make it hard on yourself.

[randyt]

when I go through the Posen area I always think about the work it took to clear those fields. No dozers back then.

[rebel]

Yup, backhoe/excavator would take care of it but, renting one would be pricey.

[edr730]

Rebel, the bulldozer is for many stumps when you clear an area.
RandyT Hard workin polacks in posen. Nice neat farms. Some of the older ones work pretty hard on negotiating a price for work too haha. You can bet the whole family was out there hoeing the suckers off those stumps along with the weeds for many years to make it what it is today. That and then they had to put all them rocks on the stone boats. Some of those farms that were passed on to their children have become a sight to see.
But, it was the same everywhere....not enough to really make a living then by todays standards. Today we are lucky. We can make almost 1/2 of what the big cities make. I wouldn't trade it.
Hunter I'd like to know what he dumped on the stump.

[rebel]

Rebel, the bulldozer is for many stumps when you clear an area

I grew up on a farm. Gramps and the folks had a Deere 450 and cat d-5. I've cleared land. Thanks for the education(sarc).
BTW, I didn't write anything about using a dozer.

[hunter63]

....................
Hunter I'd like to know what he dumped on the stump.

Yeah..I would like to know as well......
I'm sure they can get products to use the regular people can't.

Went to town.....came back expecting to see the stump gone.....

Was still there...with some yellowing stuff on it ..looked like it had been thick liquid.

Didn't take long.

[edr730]

haha Rebel....no offense taken

[kyratshooter]

Yep, I've dug out stumps. And probably lots of other things that people from the city would think is too hard of work...or impossible. At 66 I'd dig them out every day for $350.

$350 would not even cover the co-pay on my medical insurance for the damage I would do trying to dig out a stump.

Last year I slipped and fell walking across the lawn to put gas in my mower and it wound up putting me out of commission for 8 months and cost me $1500 + whatever the hospital and doctors got out of the insurance company!

I'm not even going to kick the bark off that stump. I would probably break my toe, gangrene would set in and they would have to amputate my whole leg!

[Wildthang]

I was only looking for an easy way that was cheaper than $350, I'm thinking it's too big to grind!

[kyratshooter]

Nail a couple of boards to the top of it and call it a picnic table.

There is no such thing as a stump too big to grind. There are only guys that do not have a machine big enough to grind the stump they are looking at.

Around our area they charge by the inch diameter so the bigger the better and if they do not have a big enough machine they borrow or rent one.

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