Alone Season 4 or should i say Not So Alone ;) Season 4

[Zachary Fowler]

Hear we go again but the rules have changed its family partner groups this time. Its back in Vancouver island again and looks to be interesting with this new dynamics. I like the idea. It will provide a good comparison to Measure the first three season against. I personally think the hardest part is missing my family while i am gone but the alone factor is not what drives the persons ability to survive the longest. So I'm thinking it will actually be harder for 2 people to survive longer then on under the circumstances. Not to mention it can be hard to work together when you are tired and hungry. I don't know about you but i wouldn't last a week with my brother. What do you guys think?

video Link >https://youtu.be/ZmNYXwA7jKc?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

[crashdive123]

This should be interesting. While it is clear that all of the participants missed loved ones and some so much that they ended their adventure early.....it will be interesting to see how that dynamic changes with a loved one there. Do they end their adventure due to a struggling loved one? It will be interesting.

[finallyME]

This totally changes everything. The show was about being Alone, not really on wilderness survival. I know personally, that I am different mentally when I am alone, as apposed to with other people. I don't like a LOT of people, but I like a small group. And, when I am in predator country, I feel more comfortable with others around.
The first part of the original show was people quitting because of the presence of predators. Being alone heightened the fear. The second half of the show was just seeing how long they could last without people contact. By adding a family member (or friend), you take those two things away. What you are left with is just conflict resolution. I wonder if a dog counts as another person?

[Zachary Fowler]

No dogs unless you can prove its your half brother LOL. But it has been brought up to producers about a man and his companion series witch would be cool. You guys ever see that show a year in the Tigra (probly not spelling it right ) The Russian Trappeur guy had a dog and was very good at working him to get him food.

[finallyME]

Well, if you met my brother....

[kyratshooter]

Didn't they try this in the Andes Mountains and half the cast ate the other half of the cast?

I only made it 10 minutes into the first segment and changed channels. They should add a third member to the teams and possibly change the name of the show to The Three Stooges.

[Wildthang]

I would rather be alone! For me it just works better in a situation like getting by in the woods, finding food, and keeping on track. But then I do well alone and without people, that's why I go to the woods in the first place!

[Rick]

Why don't they do a show of 6 old geezers at the Golden Corral? Two of us get lost just trying to find our way to the ice cream machine.

[crashdive123]

Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They've got an ice cream machine?!?!?!?!?

[kyratshooter]

Why don't they do a show of 6 old geezers at the Golden Corral? Two of us get lost just trying to find our way to the ice cream machine.

You want to see a real foraging behavior pattern, just move the roast beef from its normal location. The guys on canes fan out first, sound the signal when they find it and a heard of people on walkers follow.

A few weeks back the icecream machine broke at our local GC. A long line formed due to the inability of a senior citizen to take anyone's word for anything. No one seemed to believe the sign on the machine. These are people that grew up during the depression and someone might put that sign there to keep all the icecream for themselves. Greatest Generation my sweet @$$ .

In turn, each person approached the machine, pulled the lever, announced the device was broken and walked away. Must have been 25 people in that line, half of them on mobility devices, walkers or canes.

The really amazing ones are those on oxygen. They come in dragging the bottle, drape the tubes over their ears to get them out of the way, eat like they were starving, sit there looking like they are on their last breath (which they could be), then rip off the nose tube as they walk out the door so then can smoke a cigarette!

[hunter63]

The older I get the more people get on my nerves.
It is good to have someone to call 911

See thread..
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?29543-Hi-y-all-Been-on-the-road-Just-checking-in

[theJman]

Alone, but with someone else? Maybe they should have spun off another franchise and kept this one true to its name. Seems like a poorly conceived plan to me.

I did notice a few more youtubers among the group; Josh and Brad Richardson (American Wilderness (https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericanWilderness)) and Chris Wilkes (Chris Wilkes Survival (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Z5cuC1Gs0eH_vH_JEUWtA)). Wonder why the bio's never list that.

I noticed this in the equipment list...

1 Ferro Rod (must not be longer than 6in, and must have plastic handle)

Who makes a 6" ferro rod with a plastic handle? What kind of dumb requirement is that?

[finallyME]

Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They've got an ice cream machine?!?!?!?!?

That is the only thing my kids eat there. Well, except now my 14 year old son pounds the chicken legs. He will put down about 10 or so then head over to the ice cream.

[finallyME]

Alone, but with someone else? Maybe they should have spun off another franchise and kept this one true to its name. Seems like a poorly conceived plan to me.

I did notice a few more youtubers among the group; Josh and Brad Richardson (American Wilderness (https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericanWilderness)) and Chris Wilkes (Chris Wilkes Survival (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Z5cuC1Gs0eH_vH_JEUWtA)). Wonder why the bio's never list that.

I noticed this in the equipment list...

1 Ferro Rod (must not be longer than 6in, and must have plastic handle)

Who makes a 6" ferro rod with a plastic handle? What kind of dumb requirement is that?

You can find 6" ones all day long. http://firesteel.com/firesteel-bunker-6-0/

If they are restricting size, they should also restrict the diameter. The plastic handle is probably so you don't use a handle with flammable material, like fatwood or magnesium. I think the producers are learning.

[hunter63]

Alone, but with someone else? Maybe they should have spun off another franchise and kept this one true to its name. Seems like a poorly conceived plan to me.

I did notice a few more youtubers among the group; Josh and Brad Richardson (American Wilderness (https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericanWilderness)) and Chris Wilkes (Chris Wilkes Survival (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Z5cuC1Gs0eH_vH_JEUWtA)). Wonder why the bio's never list that.

I noticed this in the equipment list...

1 Ferro Rod (must not be longer than 6in, and must have plastic handle)

Who makes a 6" ferro rod with a plastic handle? What kind of dumb requirement is that?

I guess making You tubes doesn't help you in the real world......Josh and Brad Richardson didn't make it a day....
Whoops.

So would you buy stuff from these three?

[WalkingTree]

I feel that having one other person along, if not a few, greatly increases survival chances...except that among all of the things that we'd say are necessary to have or do a certain way, at the very top of my list is that the people have the right attitude and ability to work together and communicate. If that one thing isn't there, you're in trouble no matter what you have or how you do things otherwise.

[crashdive123]

For the young man that tapped - kind of knew he wasn't going to make it. I mean if the premise is to drop them about 10 miles apart where one sets up base camp and the other makes his/her way to the first....... Well when the first hikes a few hours from the drop off point (to where the second has only a compass bearing to find it) failure seemed to be in the cards. Mechanical injury can happen to anybody, especially when you think you are invincible.

[Zachary Fowler]

Waw tough crowd its not that bad in fact i like it. Jami and i watched hears our reaction Video Link>>>https://youtu.be/z2KlrhrtgSQ?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1 I think it has potential to be very interesting and if they can just find each other without getting eaten. What a miserable hike they have to make. Of course I said that to EJ Of naked and afraid when I saw him last week At the blade show And he just laughed at me And said "At least they don't have to do it naked"

[Zachary Fowler]

Just finished my review of episode 2 if anyone is interested

screwed up somting itn the video will repost when it is fixed

[hunter63]

Just finished my review of episode 2 if anyone is interested

https://youtu.be/ENRfTbi3ZEk?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

Have been following.
Cool stuff....well done....Enjoyed it .

Thanks for posting...

[kyratshooter]

Just finished my review of episode 2 if anyone is interested

https://youtu.be/ENRfTbi3ZEk?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

Come on Zach, a 15 minute review of a one hour show????

I can not even stomach 10 minutes of the real show!

As far as I am concerned the producers have gone bat s%!t crazy for this season.

[Shady Slim]

I love the premise of the show and actually, all shows showing survival in extreme conditions. Except naked and afraid. Not a fan as I find it that the producers want to place teams in adverse conditions. Bug infested jungles, desert islands with no water, that kind of thing. Also seems funny that on day 20 or 21 they happen to luck into some kind of protein laden snake, possum, nutria whatevers for their first real meal.

My favorite shows are the Alone series, Life below Zero, Last Alaskans, Yukon Man and perhaps Alaskan Bush People (not a fav, but entertaining). The named shows feature extreme conditions but with sensible survival equipment.

I am rooting for the married couple on this seasons Alone. She has already built an awesome shelter in anticipation of her husband showing up. There are no more "tighter" teams than a married couple. That is why they get my vote.

[Shady Slim]

Waw tough crowd its not that bad in fact i like it. Jami and i watched hears our reaction Video Link>>>https://youtu.be/z2KlrhrtgSQ?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1 I think it has potential to be very interesting and if they can just find each other without getting eaten. What a miserable hike they have to make. Of course I said that to EJ Of naked and afraid when I saw him last week At the blade show And he just laughed at me And said "At least they don't have to do it naked"

What is the "payout" for finishing 21 days on Naked and Afraid? The show never mentions anything. But who in the hell in their right mind would subject themselves to 21 days of extreme skeeter infestation without any incentive? What, tell me that the PSR being increased from 6.8 to 8.2 is a "reward" for that? BFD on the PSR.

[chiggersngrits]

So far this season sucks. If they have gps tracking, they could at least show the progress of the hiking member.

[Shady Slim]

So far this season sucks. If they have gps tracking, they could at least show the progress of the hiking member.

They kind of do. If you look at the beginning of when they are featuring a pair, their avatars get closer and closer. Not scientific at all with it and that would be nice.

I was glad to see the first team that matched up finally after 7 days I think. I can see what you are saying @chiggersngrits , not enough of living in the wild versus extractions of wounded participants. The third episode and the show seemed to concentrate on those that were wounded or chose to tap out.

[Antonyraison]

It will be interesting, cause you get group dynamics, and you get really ratty with eachother.. having a decent partner will help but yeah you kinda will get on each others nerves.
I would take my best friend whom has done a lot of survival outings with me, we know eachother well and can let eachothers breakdowns slide off eachother and cheer eachother up, and best of all I would not need to baby sit him or him I.. we would just split up tasks and get it done.

[crashdive123]

Interesting that the three tap outs have come from those that were stationary and not hiking through the rough terrain. For the two that were injured.....was it from carelessness? For the young man that tapped, it seemed to me that it was more of his Dad's dream than his.

[kyratshooter]

Were they paying more attention to their camera gear or getting a good view on the selfie stick than where they were putting their feet or how they were using their tools?

[crashdive123]

I have said a few times that all of the injuries seem to be captured on film (talking about all of the seasons of the show). I believe being distracted from the activity you are performing (hiking, splitting wood, etc.) by filming can and probably does/did cause enough distraction for the injury to occur.

[Batch]

Given how quickly some people remark how hard it is. I have wondered if any of the injuries have been intentional or staged just to have an out. I wondered the same thing when a lost item caused a tap.

[WalkingTree]

...still remember the guy from s1 whining about losing his firestarter and how he can't make it without his firestarter, and behind him in camera frame his fire is burning away.

[Antonyraison]

...still remember the guy from s1 whining about losing his firestarter and how he can't make it without his firestarter, and behind him in camera frame his fire is burning away.

yeah I recall that guy, shame I kinda get why he left... i think they struggled with fire in the first few days everyone did, everything wet.
He did have a fire then I think he misplaced it and couldn't find it?
Felt bad for him but yeah I guess I get his point , very hard to get a bow drill etc.
here is a video explaining himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy5GcbM8A6M

[WalkingTree]

I just felt that since he had a fire, he coulda tried to keep it going...might not have been able to keep it forever, but tap when the fire is gone instead of as soon as the firestarter went missing. But he is right though - there's a lot we don't see on t.v. while doing armchair judging.

[kyratshooter]

Armchair judging is why they make the show, otherwise broadcasting it would be useless.

[old2531]

by the end of the 5th day 3 teams had tagged out it took till the 9th day for the first team to reconnect

[jpqs]

I would like to participate in Alone, but so do 7,500 other people! It pisses me off that the producers chose YouTubers with not enough outdoor experience. The fact that this people have had accidents so early in the challenge says a lot. Being careful in the wilderness is not something you learn in a day or two. Even the sustenance hunter had a stupid accident. They need to chose people with remote, self supported outdoor expeditions under their belts, like the Baird brothers. My girlfriend keeps reminding me that it's just survival entertainment. Rant off.

[crashdive123]

Here's a thought for anybody that wants to participate in Alone but didn't get chosen by the producers......

Strap on a back pack and head on out. Simple. Problem solved.

[jpqs]

I've done that, but with a canoe, rations, and my girlfriend. There was no half million dollars and opportunity to boost a career in the field though. Maybe next year I'll go with an INCH bag and spend 2-3 months. I would make a video I think.

[WalkingTree]

Here's a thought for anybody that wants to participate in Alone but didn't get chosen by the producers......

Strap on a back pack and head on out. Simple. Problem solved.
And it's better...cause you're not carrying around cameras and talking into them.

[hunter63]

And it's better...cause you're not carrying around cameras and talking into them.

But remember...Pic's or it didn't happen.

[Batch]

I've done that, but with a canoe, rations, and my girlfriend. There was no half million dollars and opportunity to boost a career in the field though. Maybe next year I'll go with an INCH bag and spend 2-3 months. I would make a video I think.

How long did you spend last time? Where did you stay? If you give me a canoe full of gear and rations and a person I don't dislike at the time. It is not me living the concept of that show.

The show isn't a survival show it is a matter of will. You see folks talk themselves into leaving until one person is left. I have witness as many as 90 percent of the participants leave before they declared a winner on past seasons. I would defer to someone with better rythmaticin skills than I. But, that seems real close to a majority of the folks that get on this show lose...

[Antonyraison]

As much as I may think I would like to do alone, And I would really love to...
People may not realise the type of commitments you may have to make, and I think Fowler can shed some light.
But basically I believe you need to give up your normal life for likely easy 4 - 6 months
IE your JOB, your family, etc.
The show from what I understand has a lot of behind the scenes stuff we dont really know about,
They I believe would have to take the Participants (if you selected) beforehand, long before you actually start and basically give them courses on Camera work, and how to operate said cameras, safety inductions,etc.. and likely regardless of their skill ( i say likely) still go over many basics on survival and other things..
these behind the scenes stuff could likely take a month to two, and because they dont know how long you be out, well you kinda probably have to sign off a waiver or contract for at least another 3 months I guess..

So yeah thats a lot of time, that I will be out of work, i can't just take my regular vacation leave from work (thats only maybe 21 days a year) and I will not be earning any money, I have a mortgage a family, bills etc. what about all those concerns, whilst I am out there trying to surivive (or perhaps having a blast, who knows) my family is not doing great at home and not making it.
That is a lot of considerations...
that being said, I do get out , at least 4 or more times a year for days on end even up to a week and just Do my own things ( i get the leave , i get money still, I make my own videos, and I do it in the remote areas of southern africa, sometimes with the school I am with sometimes with friends, and sometimes I camp with the lady of my life)

[Zachary Fowler]

Better late then never, been busy this week but hear it is episode 3 review

Video Link>>https://youtu.be/wlJ8dwDRG0I?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

[jpqs]

We stayed 6 months in the boreal forest. 1250 kcal per person per day. Not enough to keep us going on rations alone, but enough to get us very motivated to forage for food. It wasn't a "camping trip". It was very tough, and awesome. We were there to learn about self sustenance, ourselves, and the world. We were definitely much more qualified before the trip than 70% of the participants for Alone, but it's because we have university degrees in outdoor leadership, have wilderness first responder certifications, and have done a few remote wilderness trips. We planned and executed everything ourselves. One day I fainted twice and landed with my face on a rock. It was a very hot day and we had not had a fish for a week. We did the trip in a very minimalist way. We probably had the roughly the same amount of gear than the participants of Alone when you include all their "safety" equipment. Minus the rations of course. You can read about our experience in my website. I'm not saying that it is exactly as what Alone participants did, but it is super transferable. It would give us a huge advantage if we were to compete in Alone, for we've already gone through isolation and got our taste of semi starvation.

[Antonyraison]

Thank you Fowler for the link.. looks like an amazing series! I have seen the video and left comment.
Looking forward to more!

[Zachary Fowler]

Here it is Just finished the review of episode 4 Jami and I didOn Thursday. This one turned out pretty good of course it was easy because there's a lot ofCool stuff going on the show this time. It really hit me pretty heavy watching Brooke And your husband Meet up. That day Jami showed up , Sneaking up behind me telling me i could come home Heavy stuff heavy stuff.
Video Link
https://youtu.be/WASzxIWS9Bk?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

[Zachary Fowler]

Ya you have to be prepared to go for a year even though i dont think it will ever go longer then 100 days some day

[Zachary Fowler]

Sorry any Alone season 4 Contestants in advance ;) " The Fowler's Harsh Criticism Reaction to ALONE S04 E05"
Video Link>> https://youtu.be/kdgLJa-8lSs?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP1

[kaze]

I'm so disappointed in this season Alone show. I have been a pretty big fan of all 3 seasons because I love the idea of a person surviving alone, trying to outlast the other survivalists. I am not a fan of group dynamics. That's why I don't like naked and afraid. I can't stand drama which usually comes from group dynamics. I watch survival shows to see skills being display and how one copes with being alone and having to rely on nobody but themselves. That's why I was immediately drawn to the show "ALONE" when it first came out. Now I feel it has lost it's way with this couple contest. I hope next season they return the show back to the original concept and the only change I would have like to see would be to drop from 10 items to 5 items. Less items would have made the show more interesting. Anyways, I'm not going to participate in discussion on this season since it not my cup of tea. It's sad because I was so looking forward to season 4. Oh well... I guess a good thing just never last.

[hunter63]

Caught the episode last night.... Brooke & Dave Whipple completed their shelter... vertical log cabin with tarp roof.
Stone fireplace open to the inside...with a Tipi chimney.....
One of better shelters I have seen.

Only pic I could find.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/2107%20july%20flood%20and%20place/Whipples02_zpsputmfwqv.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/2107%20july%20flood%20and%20place/Whipples02_zpsputmfwqv.jpg.html)

[Shady Slim]

Caught the episode last night.... Brooke & Dave Whipple completed their shelter... vertical log cabin with tarp roof.
Stone fireplace open to the inside...with a Tipi chimney.....
One of better shelters I have seen.

Only pic I could find.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/2107%20july%20flood%20and%20place/Whipples02_zpsputmfwqv.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/2107%20july%20flood%20and%20place/Whipples02_zpsputmfwqv.jpg.html)




Thanks for the pic. I watch Life Below Zero at that time and watch Alone on On Demand the following day. I would love to add a comment about the shelters this years players are doing.

First off, I knew that thw married couple would do extremely well compared to others. The two brothers that tapped out last week after the rain storm had the most piss poor shelter I have ever seen. With the torrential rains they had, their sleeping bags and equipment were getting soaked from the run off.

No wonder they tapped. The one brother did not want to quit but his brother wanted to tap out so he gave in being a big brother I guess.

But this shelter the couple have is going to be key in their success this season. I knew she is the strong player of the team by the work she did while her husband was still making his way to the camp. She had an awesome shelter built by the time he arrived. The brothers that tapped had a shyt-hole for shelter.

[hunter63]

Their cabin reminds me of a "Shabang".......Civil war camp shelter.

Their is more a cabin......than this....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/Winter-Camp-Civil-War-Reinactment-700x525_zpscb7c9dd7.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/Winter-Camp-Civil-War-Reinactment-700x525_zpscb7c9dd7.jpg.html)

[Zachary Fowler]

Fowler and the Cormorant's Reaction to ALONE S04 E07 (History's Alone Season 4 Episode 7)

Video messed up will post agian when fixed

[hunter63]

Thanks....will check it out.

[hunter63]

How long did you spend last time? Where did you stay? If you give me a canoe full of gear and rations and a person I don't dislike at the time. It is not me living the concept of that show.

The show isn't a survival show it is a matter of will. You see folks talk themselves into leaving until one person is left. I have witness as many as 90 percent of the participants leave before they declared a winner on past seasons. I would defer to someone with better rythmaticin skills than I. But, that seems real close to a majority of the folks that get on this show lose...

LOL
I would guess it more like 99%...as there is only one winner, on person (or team) per season.....they won because all of the rest quit.

[Zachary Fowler]

Fowler and the Cormorant's Reaction to ALONE S04 E07 (History's Alone Season 4 Episode 7)

Video Link>>https://youtu.be/2qTfAbC5ckI?list=PLjSScLBAtGMimwyp8Ngot6QN1_VBlcMP 1

[jayd]

As much as I may think I would like to do alone, And I would really love to...
People may not realise the type of commitments you may have to make, and I think Fowler can shed some light.
But basically I believe you need to give up your normal life for likely easy 4 - 6 months
IE your JOB, your family, etc.
The show from what I understand has a lot of behind the scenes stuff we dont really know about,
They I believe would have to take the Participants (if you selected) beforehand, long before you actually start and basically give them courses on Camera work, and how to operate said cameras, safety inductions,etc.. and likely regardless of their skill ( i say likely) still go over many basics on survival and other things..
these behind the scenes stuff could likely take a month to two, and because they dont know how long you be out, well you kinda probably have to sign off a waiver or contract for at least another 3 months I guess..

So yeah thats a lot of time, that I will be out of work, i can't just take my regular vacation leave from work (thats only maybe 21 days a year) and I will not be earning any money, I have a mortgage a family, bills etc. what about all those concerns, whilst I am out there trying to surivive (or perhaps having a blast, who knows) my family is not doing great at home and not making it.
That is a lot of considerations...
that being said, I do get out , at least 4 or more times a year for days on end even up to a week and just Do my own things ( i get the leave , i get money still, I make my own videos, and I do it in the remote areas of southern africa, sometimes with the school I am with sometimes with friends, and sometimes I camp with the lady of my life)

where do you get 4=6 months? It will never go 3 months on vancouver, guaranteed. The weather there, at that time of year, is just too nasty, and they will never again choose more than 1 person who's got a clue how to do this.

[jayd]

Carleigh had not quit. They forced her to leave.

Elaborate shelters dont feed you. You have to get food, or you wont last long. The weather on Vancouver really sucks at that time of year. The show is killing itself with all the bs intended to keep this season under 30 days, real time. They tried so hard to give the win to a woman last year, that it's virtually guaranteed to go to the Whipples this year. The married couple doesn't have to split the prize, while all the other teams do. So the Whipples have twice as much incentive to win, and they know how to get along in the bush, which the others do not.

[jayd]

[QUOTE=jpqs;502415]We stayed 6 months in the boreal forest. 1250 kcal per person per day. Not enough to keep us going on rations alone, but enough to get us very motivated to forage for food. It wasn't a "camping trip". It was very tough, and awesome. We were there to learn about self sustenance, ourselves, and the world. We were definitely much more qualified before the trip than 70% of the participants for Alone, but it's because we have university degrees in outdoor leadership, have wilderness first responder certifications, and have done a few remote wilderness trips. We planned and executed everything ourselves. One day I fainted twice and landed with my face on a rock. It was a very hot day and we had not had a fish for a week. We did the trip in a very minimalist way. We probably had the roughly the same amount of gear than the participants of Alone when you include all their "safety" equipment. Minus the rations of course. You can read about our experience in my website. I'm not saying that it is exactly as what Alone participants did, but it is super transferable. It would give us a huge advantage if we were to compete in Alone, for we've already gone through isolation and got our taste of semi starvation.[/QUOTE

Fowler averaged 400 calories per day, not 1250. That difference will take you out in short order. He lost 70 lbs in 87 days. Have you got 70 lbs to spare?

[Shady Slim]

Sorry to see the husband/wife team tap out last night. I thought with that awesome shelter they could go all the way.

Since they are gone I will have to cheer on the father/son team.

Nobody doing well on caloric intake. Fishing is tough for sure.

Since all the Alone shows have taken place right on the water, whether fresh or salt, why isn't a rod and reel considered as one of the items?

Do producers think that is cheating?

Basically, the show is turning into a hunger fest. A hunger game to see who can starve and live the longest.

[kyratshooter]

sorry Shady Slim but the response to your post may be slow or sluggish.

The forum was attacked by an Alone obsessed troll last week and we are sort of stuffed full of "don't give a crap" about Alone at this point.

[Antonyraison]

where do you get 4=6 months? It will never go 3 months on vancouver, guaranteed. The weather there, at that time of year, is just too nasty, and they will never again choose more than 1 person who's got a clue how to do this.

Fowler whom said 1 year of your normal life you have to give up. He competed season 3 and won. So I take it from someone that has done it and knows. I just made an educated guess. Maybe you should do alone rather than find fault with others that post from experience? I don't know.

[crashdive123]

Don't feel bad. Jayd is just........well.............stupid. Found this pic of him.

https://dumbassnews.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/stupid20tattoo.jpg

[Rick]

Jayd strikes me as this kind of guy.

http://www.atchuup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/murderers-and-their-last-words-6.jpg

[kyratshooter]

Naw, here's you a picture of Gunkid, Jayd, Geiko45, Andy or whatever name he is going by today.

Real name John Melvin Davis.

Also a small background and history for those that never had a previous experience with him.

http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/07/goodbye-gunkid.html

Thing is that he really is stupid. He changes his names but he never changes his attitude, his methods or his other patterns.

Primarily, he always does what he did here. He attacks a forum with intense posting, sometimes a dozen an hour, and it is all industrial strength crazy. When he gets replies to his baiting he does the personal attack thing with such intensity that most people just shrink away and try to hide until he is gone.

My big shock is that the courts allowed him computer access. Not being allowed on a computer should have been one of his parole conditions.

[Antonyraison]

Lol hahah. I am quiet familiar with trolls trolling.
But too me just seemed like a 15 yo know it all kinda person.

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