Preparedness

[rebel]

I was reading the other day that in 2003, 77% of the population were unprepared for a disaster. In 2011, 66% and today it's 65%. The articles' author said that more people would die after the disaster than would die during it.

[kyratshooter]

What disaster?

"The Disaster" is a pretty general statement.

[hunter63]

That means more assets to the survivors.....Be a survivor.

I really only care about My numbers....can't fix stupid or change bad luck.....Just a few less that 2003

[1stimestar]

Yes exactly. What kind of disaster? A disaster for some is not necessarily a disaster for others.

[Rick]

No one plans to fail. They just fail to plan.

[Antonyraison]

mmmm yeah I was thinking a similar topic some time ago..
disaster is a very board term, and likely impossible to be prepared for all scenarios..
I think the best preparedness one could have is the right mind set and not to panic..
anything could happen, and you could be very far away from your equipment and rations, and bug out location..
I feel for me the best I could do is learn skills, and practice.. also I have a unique experiences as apposed to many others, I actually have survived a High jacking, a Mugging, and a house robbery where I was tied up for 2 hours...
the main thing I could say is not to panic, very hard not to do, thankfully I have never. keep your head down listen to the guy with the gun..
even years of Martial arts experience (which I have) its never wise to try something with 2-3 gun men with other people around you, or even if your alone.
Hence I say its what's inside that keeps you going and mental preparedness, over everything else.

[rebel]

Yea, the article didn't specify the "disaster". I thought it interesting in that prepping was getting better. Unprepared down from 77% to 65%.

[rebel]

Also, how they came up with that percentage???. My guess is that most just buy a little extra at the grocery store and wouldn't be all that open about it. I know I haven't be questioned about readiness and would probably just say no if asked.

[madmax]

My SHTF fantasy has always been the bug out to the woods. Yeah, save it. I know the arguments against. But I'm physically compromised and other options have become relevant.

[Antonyraison]

I also feel, that although being prepared is very good, and should be a necessity and is just plain old good practice,
I don't feel its all what people need to survive a situation.
I feel people over look the mental aspect, and practicing..also planning, and good old sitting down and Talking on what to do, what procedures to follow. Whom to call, where to go, etc.
Maybe TV has dramatized survival making it idealistic and seemingly fun (which i suppose practicing it can be)
More emphasis on physiological, and mental state should be prioritized imo.
maybe I am just talking utter BS haha

[hunter63]

My houses, trucks garages and sheds are full of "the things I needed ...Last time"
May mean nothing "next time".

They, who ever they are, are offering opinions...can't see where numbers could come from...appears to be trying to make use feel better?....Or selling us some thing to "not be in that victim" group.

We are all the hero of our own fantasy .........Just don't want to run up against others that are the hero of theirs.

When I see the "I'm new to prepping"....huh?...been in your parents basement all this time?

[Antonyraison]

My houses, trucks garages and sheds are full of "the things I needed ...Last time"
May mean nothing "next time".

They, who ever they are, are offering opinions...can't see where numbers could come from...appears to be trying to make use feel better?....Or selling us some thing to "not be in that victim" group.

We are all the hero of our own fantasy .........Just don't want to run up against others that are the hero of theirs.

When I see the "I'm new to prepping"....huh?...been in your parents basement all this time?

Mmm yeah my house also full of said things.. as will my car have a kit in. Although I also travel a lot fly all over the country and or use hired cars.. so in some cases I litterally can and will have the clothing on back and the knowledge in my head.. that is what makes me think... All the times I am not even close to any of my kit.

Mmm yeah a point on the hero of said fantasy... it maybe somewhat idealistic and I supposed romantised in our heads.. but I can tell you nothing can be further from the truth.. I been on the bad side of a gun many a time.. and often think about those situations I have been involved with and realised what I did at the various times was the best senario.. be polite to the man with the gun let him take whatever it is he wants and aid him getting away fast as possible don't spook the assailant don't make sudden moves.. be calm. Be rational don't be the hero.. sometimes just being calm answering correctly is being the hero.. I shudder to have thought what would have happened had I answered yes to the hijacker asking me if anyone was home (my parents where and asleep) I often wonder if I said yes would they have gone in and killed them or what?

[Antonyraison]

My houses, trucks garages and sheds are full of "the things I needed ...Last time"
May mean nothing "next time".

They, who ever they are, are offering opinions...can't see where numbers could come from...appears to be trying to make use feel better?....Or selling us some thing to "not be in that victim" group.

We are all the hero of our own fantasy .........Just don't want to run up against others that are the hero of theirs.

When I see the "I'm new to prepping"....huh?...been in your parents basement all this time?

Mmm yeah my house also full of said things.. as will my car have a kit in. Although I also travel a lot fly all over the country and or use hired cars.. so in some cases I litterally can and will have the clothing on back and the knowledge in my head.. that is what makes me think... All the times I am not even close to any of my kit.

[kyratshooter]

Mmm yeah my house also full of said things.. as will my car have a kit in. Although I also travel a lot fly all over the country and or use hired cars.. so in some cases I litterally can and will have the clothing on back and the knowledge in my head.. that is what makes me think... All the times I am not even close to any of my kit.

A few years back when there were more forums and more people on them we used to play a game with threads like "If you had to get up and run out the door right now what would you have for gear?"

I think we have played that one here in the past. It also helps if you keep up with what is allowed as carry on luggage on a plane and what is legal as daily carry in your pockets.

Back about 250 years ago there was a guy that roamed around in my area named Simon Kenton. You South Africans would not know him but he was a very early entry into the Kentucky area. Was not but about 16 when he arrived as a scout/trapper and he gained a great deal of fame for his skills as a woodsman and was one of the Indian fighters that lived long enough to die of old age.

He was in a lean-to shelter in the snow one evening, early in his career, and had his clothes off drying by the fire when he was attacked by Indians. He bounded into the woods buck naked, closely followed by one of his trapper associates, and on that man's tail were a host of irritated Shawnee Indians.

He had to travel naked in the snow for several days, but he survived and the effort taught him something. From that point on he hid supplies in caches all over north Kentucky!

His favorite caches were in hollow trees and the occasional cave and usually consisted of a blanket roll containing extra moccasins, a knife and a fire steel.

I think the modern version of that is Jason Borne and his safe deposit box caches!

I have always thought that if I was traveling an established circuit for business I would find a good hotel, speak to the manager as a repeat customer, and have some materials kept in the hotel safe for my use when I was in each town.

[Rick]

I have fire extinguishers, smoke alarms, emergency lighting and an escape ladder for upstairs. The big one is covered. Once I clear the house I'm running as hard as this old body will allow for as long as it will allow. If all the propane, gasoline and ammo goes at once there is sure to be a rather large hole in the ground.

[hunter63]

Simon Keaton ...Was the book about his life..."The Frontiersman"...?

[kyratshooter]

The Frontiersman was a novel about Kenton but it was not a biography of Kenton.

Ekert wrote with a pretty broad stroke while claiming all his information was "history", when it was not. He made some pretty bad mistakes with not only Kenton but the people influencing, fighting alongside him and against him.

He was especially bad about using footnotes to make his work appear to be historical presentation when the foot notes contain nothing factual.

Most of the stuff in the books is close enough to have some basis in truth as far as general facts go, but the quoted conversations between characters in the book never happened. I was also suspect of orders given to and conversations held between members of groups of fighters that were wiped out to the last man. How does Eckert know what they said? They all died!

The real pity is that there was much recorded about Kenton's life from the remembrances of his daughter and other family members. It is all presented in the Draper Manuscripts, recorded from the words of the family and friends. Ekert generally ignored that and skirted around the facts. Just the things we actually know are enough to give you a bad case of butt clinch when you read about them.

He was a rough and tumble young giant who enjoyed a good running Indian fight, organized a company of rangers and patrolled the Kentucky side of the river while occasionally swimming across the Ohio to steal horses from the Indians just to stir up some excitement.

There were very few major battles on either side of the Ohio River that he did not take part in. Usually he was a scout working deep inside the Indian territory, sometimes right inside their villages, then taking information back to the major planners. It was long range recon work that no one today would believe possible.

At Boonesboro, during the siege of 1777, Kenton and his rangers actually infiltrated through the lines to get into the fort after it was surrounded. They would slip out of the fort through the Indian lines, make a kill and bring the meat back through the Indian lines into the fort.

I give about the same credit to Kenton for developing the concepts of ranging as is given to Robert Rogers . Kenton probably taught the skills to a larger group of frontiersman than Rogers. While Rogers went home after his war Kenton and the Kentucky frontiersmen fought for most of their adult lives as they continued west.

They passed those skills to the next generation we know as the "Mountain Men", who became the scouts and guides for expansion to the Pacific.

An even greater number of the next generation went south and west, into Texas, where they were again organized into ranger companies to protect the widely scattered settlements from the Comanche and Lipan Apache.

That group still exists as the Texas Rangers, direct decedents of Simon Kenton's rangers in Kentucky.

[Antonyraison]

1st I heard of Simon Keaton, I am not familiar with him at all.
Although I hear ya, having caches, and or knowing the hotels etc you frequent and keeping things with manager seems like a good solution. Thanks.

I once spoke to a drifter a few months back out on a trip, the guy Walked from Durban to Mtunzini a good 100km+ hike in a few days along the coast, he simply just carried a lighter, and picked up whatever he needed along the beach from old fishing lines to bottles, to discarded bottles of Half full water, he fished when he could caught crabs, and cause the climate is not bad he would sleep out in the open behind dunes, make a fire etc.. was Quiet the story.. and well made me Humbled 2 guys from different walks of Life we could actually have quiet a decent conversation, I realized as all men we are actually equal when it comes to being out in the bush... having stuff helps but you can make a way with very little.

[hunter63]

1st I heard of Simon Keaton, I am not familiar with him at all.
Although I hear ya, having caches, and or knowing the hotels etc you frequent and keeping things with manager seems like a good solution. Thanks.

I once spoke to a drifter a few months back out on a trip, the guy Walked from Durban to Mtunzini a good 100km+ hike in a few days along the coast, he simply just carried a lighter, and picked up whatever he needed along the beach from old fishing lines to bottles, to discarded bottles of Half full water, he fished when he could caught crabs, and cause the climate is not bad he would sleep out in the open behind dunes, make a fire etc.. was Quiet the story.. and well made me Humbled 2 guys from different walks of Life we could actually have quiet a decent conversation, I realized as all men we are actually equal when it comes to being out in the bush... having stuff helps but you can make a way with very little.

That is a great insight......seems we tend to follow our own counsel and disregard ways we disagree with....

[kyratshooter]

Many people do not realize that Africa had a parallel exploration and settlement pattern with North America at about the same time. North America settled east to west, Africa settled south to north.

The Dutch arrived at the Cape about the same time they arrived in New York. The British took over colonial control of the Cape and NY in the same treaty negotiation. Both settlements were resupply ports for the East India Company.

There were explorers and fighters on both continents and the equipment was very similar, as well as the evolution of the frontiersmen/settlers on each continent.

Sometimes the parallels are eerie. Divided natives, divided colonial beliefs, wagon trains going cross country, pitched battles with native tribes that were also migrating, railroad building, exploitation of resources as technology developed.

Both fought wars of independence against Colonial Britain, separated by 100 years and 50 years too late for the Africans to be successful.

Where the U.S. revived the Ranger concept in WW2 the British Army revived the concept of the South African Commando.

[Antonyraison]

Many people do not realize that Africa had a parallel exploration and settlement pattern with North America at about the same time. North America settled east to west, Africa settled south to north.

The Dutch arrived at the Cape about the same time they arrived in New York. The British took over colonial control of the Cape and NY in the same treaty negotiation. Both settlements were resupply ports for the East India Company.

There were explorers and fighters on both continents and the equipment was very similar, as well as the evolution of the frontiersmen/settlers on each continent.

Sometimes the parallels are eerie. Divided natives, divided colonial beliefs, wagon trains going cross country, pitched battles with native tribes that were also migrating, railroad building, exploitation of resources as technology developed.

Both fought wars of independence against Colonial Britain, separated by 100 years and 50 years too late for the Africans to be successful.

Where the U.S. revived the Ranger concept in WW2 the British Army revived the concept of the South African Commando.

100% correct.
Our Anglo boer wars where at a similar time as your civil war... maybe 20-30 years difference
But yup you quiet correct.

Our settlers/frontiersmen and wagon trains exploring where mostly dominated by voortrekkers (boers- basically farmers that where quiet proficient woodsmen,farmers and fighters and masters of gorilla warfare) what are now afrikaaners, but came originally from Dutch settlers , later French and Italian also added to this group of people.. afrikaans is almost similar to Dutch as a language. The how of how I find myself in SA is my great grand father came over from France to join the boers effort in fighting against Colonial Britain in our second boer war (1899- 1902) so I am French decent, I suppose I could claim I am boer, however my 1st language is not afrikaans, some members of our family are Afrikaans 1st language speakers though.

[kyratshooter]

So what does all this African and American history talk mean to us?

Well, In 1899 there was a British general fighting in the mentioned Boer War, who looked around him at the sad excuse for troops he was being sent. This was a new kind of war, not against uneducated native troops but against European peoples who had learned to fight from the natives and did not line up in rows and shoot or dig trenches and slug it out against machine guns and artillery.

The Boers were mobile, they moved ,long distances on horseback, preformed reconnaissance, raids and ambushes all while living off the land and never returning to a fixed military base which could be attacked and defeated.

Not only were the British troops being out fought, they were not prepared to chase down these African Farmers. In fact they were not very successful even at staying alive in the climate of Africa. Not only were they dying of wounds, they were dying en mass from disease, mostly due to bad hygiene.

This general wrote a book based on his perception of what skills new recruits needed for survival on the modern battlefield and he named the book Scouting for Boys

The man was Braden Powel, and in 1910 he retired from the British army and organized the group we now call the Boy Scouts.

A group originally intended to prepare young men for the military, specifically the duties of military reconnaissance and the wood craft needed to survive away from the normal supply lines. Off grid soldiers we might say.

And 107 years latter we are giving them merit badges for computer gaming, social awareness and sensitivity training.

Well anyway, at least before the concept was morphed into what it is today we had some men that were influenced by the organization long enough to pick up a few skills and recognize the concepts as valid world wide.

Now be mindful that the term SCOUT had a different meaning in 1900. Scouts were SPIES, did recon work and guided the main army to the hidden enemy.

Soon after the founding of the organization in England there were chapters opening in the cities of North America. And it was an urban/suburban movement in the U.S., centered around a mythical "outdoorsman" on the order of Nesmuck, who was a popular writer of that time. The farm boys were too busy, still using the skills to get by, to have interest in the Boy Scouts!

And the movement did its job. In WW1 many of the combatants were former Boy scouts, and in WW2 a very large number of the rank and file were Boy Scout veterans and it showed in the statistics. Thanks to the improved training in field sanitation and the development of some new chemicals WW2 was the first conflict where we did not lose more men to disease than to wounds.

And we are still reaping the rewards of some of those old timers who trained early in the Scouts, took that training into the military and came out to teach us some stuff.

Most here have heard of the concept called the "Scout rifle". Most see it as a light bolt action rifle with a long eye relief scope attached, and that is part of the concept. The base of the concept is actually a light rifle, with any sight system one desires, capable of supporting the scout as he performs his duties. Those duties are generally gathering intelligence and living off the land with fighting only an option of last resort. If you are discovered by the enemy they will make adjustments to nullify the importance of your information. If you get killed you can not transfer your intelligence to the planners.

See how things work out?

[Antonyraison]

Wow dude hahah you sure know your history :) aye I am very familiar with Baden Powel
I did scouts growing up.. also spent some time on farms growing up as did my dad.
Yeah the boers where really a hardy people that where extremely resourceful and excellent survival and wilderness experts.. in SA we have a saying "' 'n boer maak 'n plaan" which means a boer makes a plan!
I repped you.. just solid amazing history you know quiet well :)

[hunter63]

I found that very interesting as well....
Most people in the USA tend to follow their own history, personnel or local....if at all...... rather than the world history as it all relates.

Kyrat, seems the life's work wasn't wasted on at least 2 of us....LOL
Rep sent

[Antonyraison]

Aye I too repped that I was highly impressed quality post man,and interesting :)

[rebel]

x3. Nice read. Thanks.

[Rick]

Excellent post. I have read quite a bit regarding Braden Powell. The book he originally wrote was sold as a literary work and it seems to have struck a chord with young adolescent males at the time. The book became so popular because of the youngsters he then wrote a version directed at them. In turn, he and a couple of friends took a group to one of the local islands and stayed for nine days or some such time teaching the kids outdoor skills. If I recall correctly he took fourteen kids. In any case, the trip was a complete success for both adults and youngsters and, as you said, the Boy Scouts were born.

[crashdive123]

Tried to give you some rep Krat - need to spread the wealth first.

[kyratshooter]

Thanks for the rep.

I would tell you about Daniel Beard but that would be pushing it! Full show-off mode.

One really odd thing I did notice was that both Lord Powel and Daniel Beard entered scouting leadership when they were well into their years. Both were over 60 and in full grandpa mode.

Scouting must have kept them young because they both lived to be over 90.

[randyt]

was Simon Kenton also known as Simon Butler?

[hunter63]

Thanks for the rep.

I would tell you about Daniel Beard but that would be pushing it! Full show-off mode.

One really odd thing I did notice was that both Lord Powel and Daniel Beard entered scouting leadership when they were well into their years. Both were over 60 and in full grandpa mode.

Scouting must have kept them young because they both lived to be over 90.

That's because they had all these boy to "Boy, get wood"....or "Boy, set up tent..."Boy, wake me at supper"....Bhohahaha

Personally, I enjoy "Show off mode"

[kyratshooter]

was Simon Kenton also known as Simon Butler?

Yep, he was known as Butler until well up in years. He had changed his name and run off to the wilderness due to a dispute over a young lady where he thought he had killed the other man.

Much latter the young man he feared he had killed migrated to Kentucky and they met again. Seems the young lady they had fought over had grown up to be quite a shrew and both were fortunate not to have married her

After he found he was not wanted for murder he returned to the east and collected his family and brought them to KY. That was when he started using his original name.

While Boone lost all his Kentucky land and was forced out of the state broke and in poverty, Kenton lost all his Kentucky land but was fortunate to have earned land in Ohio for his service in the Rev War and the latter campaigns right up to the War of 1812. That land was secure and he lived on it until his death. I think he settled near Piqua, OH. Not exactly sure on that.

[hunter63]

Now.....that makes a good story.......LOL
Are you sure it wasn't in Michigan ....tip of the mitt...just down the road from Randyt
Thanks.

[crashdive123]

Thanks for the rep.

I would tell you about Daniel Beard but that would be pushing it! Full show-off mode.

One really odd thing I did notice was that both Lord Powel and Daniel Beard entered scouting leadership when they were well into their years. Both were over 60 and in full grandpa mode.

Scouting must have kept them young because they both lived to be over 90.

I first learned about Daniel Beard when I was a young Scout camping here http://fsrcamp.org/dbc.html

[oldsoldier]

mmmm yeah I was thinking a similar topic some time ago..
disaster is a very board term, and likely impossible to be prepared for all scenarios..
.

Anthony IMO with proper planning you can pretty much prepare for 99% of possible scenerios. Having the basics of food, water and shelter cover almost everything. Add on medical supplies, ways to gather/ produce more food/ water, protection/ defense and again most scenerios. About the only things that you can't physically prep for are a massive meteor hit, ground zero of a NBC incident, a mega quake/ volcano type of things. But depending on where you are even most of these are survivable. I don't really prep for a certain scenerios, with the exception of NBC gear. Everything else would pretty much work for everything else.

[hunter63]

Anthony IMO with proper planning you can pretty much prepare for 99% of possible scenerios. Having the basics of food, water and shelter cover almost everything. Add on medical supplies, ways to gather/ produce more food/ water, protection/ defense and again most scenerios. About the only things that you can't physically prep for are a massive meteor hit, ground zero of a NBC incident, a mega quake/ volcano type of things. But depending on where you are even most of these are survivable. I don't really prep for a certain scenerios, with the exception of NBC gear. Everything else would pretty much work for everything else.

I agree....
Some people seem to concern them selves with that 1%, with all sorts of scenarios that are highly unlikely.

But then again think of all the cools gear one can add on the list....Bio-hazard suits, Geiger counters, Faraday cages, Zombie bats and such......Oh wait...
Never mind...

[Antonyraison]

Hahahah zombie bats... hahahah u guys are right

[kyratshooter]

Anthony any prepper worth his Wahoo Killer knife has a Walking Dead survival rig.

Everyone needs to know a Daryl.

[M118LR]

As you have experienced Anthony, survival is a state of mind. Preparing items that can make things better during the most common of survival situations is a luxury, not a necessity. Re-purposing and adaptability are the keys. You have to be able to take whatever is available and make it serve the purpose that you need most in the situation. You never know where you will be, what you will have in hand, or what the exact disaster is until it's upon you. It just isn't feasible to be prepared for everything, everywhere, at each minute of every day. The best survival tool is your mind, and you always carry it with you. JMHO.

[Antonyraison]

As you have experienced Anthony, survival is a state of mind. Preparing items that can make things better during the most common of survival situations is a luxury, not a necessity. Re-purposing and adaptability are the keys. You have to be able to take whatever is available and make it serve the purpose that you need most in the situation. You never know where you will be, what you will have in hand, or what the exact disaster is until it's upon you. It just isn't feasible to be prepared for everything, everywhere, at each minute of every day. The best survival tool is your mind, and you always carry it with you. JMHO.

Yes this is my thoughts exactly.

[hunter63]

Not to derail again...but thought I would add...Thought I recognized that name.....
Came across him and his books doing research on shelters

Danial Beard......author of "Shelters, Shacks, and Shanties"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Carter_Beard

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Shelters,+Shacks,+and+Shanties&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLUz9U3MIk3NzZS4gIzS4wtLMy1 BBxLSzLyi0LynfLzs_3zcioBbbTuJisAAAA

Great book.......Many others of his are still in print, even after over 100 years.....

[randyt]

Uncle Dan, I got his book shelter shacks and shelters for christmas one year when was a kid. Bout wore it out reading it.

[hunter63]

Saw it in the Library as a young man......now own my own copy.
Coud have been written yesterday....except for the fact the the "wood's at the edge of town" is now owned, fenced and posted.

Pretty hard to cut down enough logs for a cabin and stockade.....or signal tower.

Too bad....we had "the woods" 1/2 block away, mill pond lake, several trout streams and several "mounds" to climb.

[randyt]

I suspect at least in my area there are enough old landowners that would allow kids to cut trees and build shelters and play. I know I would.

[rebel]

Y'all aren't derailing. We're here to converse. Share ideas, experiences, opinions, etc. It's all good.

[hunter63]

I some times wonder when that same land we played on was developed, what people thought of our several "forts" and towers.
Thre wasn't many that followed us when we go older and had moved on to girls, cars jobs, sports....etc.

Probably thought they were early settlers cabins......LOL.

My childhood was great..... and feel sorry for those that didn't have those opportunities.

I can see why there are many people that would have trouble taking care of them selves.

How many 10 years old's today are allowed a pocket knife, BB gun....ask for and get bow saws and axes as gifts.....and think nothing of it?

[Rick]

I knew I was leading my grandson down the wrong path when at about 7 I told him, "I got you something today" and he replied. "Bullets?!"

[hunter63]

I knew I was leading my grandson down the wrong path when at about 7 I told him, "I got you something today" and he replied. "Bullets?!"

Bhohaha....I'm thinking that was the correct mind set?

One of my favorites was my 4-5 year son watching me clean a pheasant......
When I was done....I asked him "What did you think of that".

He says with out hesitation..."Ok lets see ya put it back together"....LOL
So I gave him a foot, showed him how to pull the tendons making the claws work......then told him, "Now go scare your mother.'

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