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finallyME

01-06-2017, 12:18 PM

On New Years, we watched the new version of the Magnificent Seven. I obviously was in the wrong group, because I was the only one who saw the original. If you haven't seen it, and still plan to, don't read the rest of this...I will spoil it.

I thought Chris Pratt did a really good job.... but he is no where near the caliber of Steve McQueen. I can't really put my finger on it, but McQueen had a swagger or a sense of not wanting to live a "safe" life. This is really driven home with the scene when the farmer tells him to stay and get a normal job that is "safe". Christ Pratt showed more of a joker character, who did it to get his horse back (obviously he does it for more reasons than that, but that is what he tries to convey).

I also thought Denzel did a great job. I liked Brynner's character better, but Denzel's was still great. Did I ever mention I am related to Brynner :) . Very distant, but still.... that makes me cool right?

I think I liked the rest of the Seven in the newer movie, than the older one. I think they were better developed and more memorable. I doubt the main girl in the newer one would have worn that dress. Also, I doubt a Gatling gun would have that kind of range.

alaskabushman

01-06-2017, 02:26 PM

I just watched it the other night! I enjoyed it and was thoroughly entertained. It is definitely not as good as the original (which itself is a remake of sorts), and I thought the acting was well done. I agree with you completely that Chris Pratt does not quite measure up to Steve McQueen, but who else does? I honestly can't think of a modern actor who comes any closer than Pratt does. The guns were even more diverse than the original, I saw many SAA's, handful of break open revolvers and even a glimpse of what looked like a S&W Model 1, and a good amount of blackpowder conversions. Pratts character even whips out a Webely bulldog, which I've never noticed in a western before. Rifles included Winchester 1866's and 1873's, some trapdoors. Nary a Winchester '92 in sight which makes me happy.

Greatest western ever? No, but overall I thought it was a good watch, and I enjoyed it.

hunter63

01-06-2017, 02:46 PM

Haven't seen the new one....liked the 1960 version.
Our High School Band had the theme song as our closing number in many performances...

Back them...not much effort was put into period correctness, details, story lines, and special effects.....
Rather those films depended on the audience imitation, star power and identified with,... in this case, the underdogs.

I when I saw the original, I couldn't tell you a 1866 Winchester to a trapdoor......and didn't care.....I had Steve McQueen in it...
That was enough for me....Just enjoy it for what it is....this time.

finallyME

01-06-2017, 03:02 PM

Back them...not much effort was put into period correctness, details, story lines, and special effects......

Back then?.... not much has changed, except the special effects. :) Of course, one of the reasons the original movie, and this one, are great is because of the storyline. It is a great story...even if it is stolen/taken from a Japanese film.

I when I saw the original, I couldn't tell you a 1866 Winchester to a trapdoor......and didn't care.....I had Steve McQueen in it...
That was enough for me....Just enjoy it for what it is....this time.

When I was talking to my family about the movie, they all said.."who is Steve McQueen?". When I was talking with my co-workers about the movie...exactly the same response. About a year ago, a coworker was throwing a ball against a wall, over and over. I said, "hey Steve McQueen, put the ball away." He said..."who is Steve McQueen?" Kids these days..... :)

finallyME

01-06-2017, 03:05 PM

Greatest western ever? No, but overall I thought it was a good watch, and I enjoyed it.

Now you have opened a can.... what do you think is the best western ever? I will have to think about that one.

Seniorman

01-06-2017, 04:34 PM

From the plot Summary on IMDB, re the new, modern The Magnificent Seven.
"... With the town of Rose Creek under the deadly control of industrialist Bartholomew Bogue, the desperate townspeople employ protection from seven outlaws, bounty hunters, gamblers and hired guns."

Hmmmm, now where have we heard that plot before?? A Non-politically correct, dirty rotten stinking running dog capitalist pig and his hired, troglodyte henchmen subjugate and brutalize innocent, non-threatening, helpless proletariat worker peasants. They must hire a bunch of fading gunslingers to save them.

Standard Hollywood fare these days, whereas the original The Magnificent Seven was about a bunch of very poor (but honest) Mexican peons in a tiny Mexican village being pillaged and plundered by an outlaw Mexican bandit and his cut throat Mexican freebooters. (Kinda foretells today's modern Mexican drug cartels.) Nothing politically correct about it. Down-and-out, white, American, has been gunfighters save poor Mexican peasants from Mexican outlaws. :gun_bandana: If that ain't politically INCORRECT, I don't know what is, huh?

I'm very tired of being preached to by the Hollywood left wing hypocrites so I guess I'll miss their up-to-date, politically correct remake flick and stick with the original. :nod:

S.M.

alaskabushman

01-06-2017, 05:56 PM

Now you have opened a can.... what do you think is the best western ever? I will have to think about that one.

For me its easy, The Outlaw Josey Wales. Followed by True Grit.

kyratshooter

01-06-2017, 06:08 PM

Greatest western ever??

Toss up I suppose;

Hondo

Outlaw Josey Wales

Once Upon A Time In the West

Big Jake

The Wild Bunch

I always laughed myself silly watching any of the Trinity series.

I did not care much for the M7 original, not anticipating much from the remake. Probably will not see it until it hits the small screen.

alaskabushman

01-06-2017, 06:36 PM

I did not care much for the M7 original, not anticipating much from the remake. Probably will not see it until it hits the small screen.

I wasn't expecting much either, probably why I liked it, low expectations does wonders.

Ohh, I forgot about Hondo, need to re-watch that. I recently re-watched Blazing Saddles in honor of the passing of Gene Wilder. Ones things for sure, no WAY that movie gets made today. Holds up remarkably well.

hunter63

01-06-2017, 07:31 PM

I go with "Outlaw Josey Wales"...as well.

Followed with "Unforgiven"

crashdive123

01-06-2017, 08:57 PM

All good choices. I really enjoyed Rio Bravo and Cowboys as well.

randyt

01-06-2017, 09:11 PM

that's a challenging question, There are many but The last of the Dogmen come to mind.

Phaedrus

01-07-2017, 01:18 AM

I liked it. Not as good as the Yule Brenner version but a fun flick. And Haley Bennett- yowza!:eek2:

hunter63

01-07-2017, 02:00 AM

The good, The Bad, and the Ugly is on right now.....
OTDCH on Dish

Batch

01-08-2017, 03:45 AM

Watched it tonight and I'll say Tombstone as my favorite. Followed by Outlaw Josey Wales.

pete lynch

01-08-2017, 06:28 AM

The Seven Samurai is what the original M7 was based on. There are others, like A Fistful of Dollars, which was based on Yojimbo.
Even the first Star Wars was based partly on a film called The Hidden Fortress. The originals were all directed by Akira Kurosawa.
My favorite western is The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. Followed in no certain order by:
High Noon
The Searchers
Once Upon a Time in the West
Unforgiven
Little Big Man
A Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
My Darling Clementine
Blazing Saddles
The Long Riders
Nevada Smith

I was not crazy about the original M7 (I liked The Wild Bunch more).
I liked the remake and the original of True Grit and dont favor one over the other.
There was a western with Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood called Paint Your Wagon that, despite having a lot of singing in it, was pretty good.
Those are a few I can think of that I liked.

Wildthang

01-12-2017, 02:19 PM

I like High Plains Drifter, just a cool movie!

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