Making Money in Wilderness Lifestyle

[Sourdough]

One of the challenges to living remote is how to make money. There are hundreds of ways to make money (Regretfully most entail a four letter word, WORK).

Can you think of several.....? Panning for GOLD..? Writer, Artist, Guide, Some construction trades. Commercial fishing, Etc.

[Alpine_Sapper]

One of the challenges to living remote is how to make money. There are hundreds of ways to make money (Regretfully most entail a four letter word, WORK).

Can you think of several.....? Panning for GOLD..? Writer, Artist, Guide, Some construction trades. Commercial fishing, Etc.

You can work in technology and telecommute to work. :)

[Ole WV Coot]

Ginseng in my area. Getting close to $1,000.00 per pound. A few other roots like mayapple, redroot etc don't pay much but if you have a big patch close to your house it might pay to dig them. Canes & walking sticks. Big seller to tourists with Woodspirits carved into them, I make them myself for fun and lightly carved walking sticks since I depend on Bartitsu for self defense any place I can't carry my 45. Make working knives. I retired my 1960s K-Bar and Ek edge & 1/2 and made several others. Could sell a few but it's a hobby. Farm produce , money to be had at roadside stands & farmer's markets. Do whatever you know. I can repair lots of items simply because I can read a schematic. I am a terrible mechanic but I repair winches and fix electrical problems on ATVs just to help a friend in his shop. I could go on all day but you get the idea.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Off topic, but are you a practioner of neo-bartitsu, or did you learn from someone in the original lineage?

[Rick]

"Antiques". If you are near the coast, gather up any floats, nets, etc. and wholesale them out to designers. Inland, gather up hunting, mining and native AK items (not indigenous items!) such as sled gear, leather goods, anything native to AK and sell to designers. Just about every chain restaurant in the lower 48 uses that stuff to decorate.

Craft items via internet.

[Sourdough]

"Antiques". If you are near the coast, gather up any floats, nets, etc. and wholesale them out to designers. Inland, gather up hunting, mining and native AK items (not indigenous items!) such as sled gear, leather goods, anything native to AK and sell to designers. Just about every chain restaurant in the lower 48 uses that stuff to decorate.

Craft items via internet.

Is this true? About the restaurants...? It has been 10 years since I've been to America. Say what.....:eek:

[dbldrew]

Well if you have a large plot of land, you could always build a second cabin and rent it out to hunters, backpackers, fishermen, etc.. Kind of like this… http://www.logcabinhideaways.com/

It would be a bit of an investment, but looking at the prices on that sight you could probably make back the cost reasonably fast. Now you would need enough acres of land to make the second cabin far enough away from your main cabin to give yourself enough buffer zone from idiot renters, but you could probably make enough for taxes, supplies, etc. with minimal work…

[trax]

I like dlbdrew's answer, given what you've told us about your situation. Personally, it's a real conundrum (no it isn't, I've just always wanted to use the word conundrum) One needs to establish some kind of income for a lot of supplies that are more easily purchased than produced weighed against... I came out here to get away from civilization!! Anything making money involves some kind of interaction with (gasp) humans.

[wildWoman]

We wanted to rent out a cabin to paddlers and other wilderness-friendly folks at first, as well as offer survival, plant id, mocassin making courses. Even got the website up! The trouble is, the more costly the transportation to your remote wilderness home is, the more of an upscale market you're dealing with. We don't want to cater to the rich, and also aren't really prepared to share our wild solitude with holiday makers. You got to explain about the wood stove, not making big campfires when it's windy, what to do about bears, how to haul water etc etc We know quite a few people in the tourism business, inluding people who run a remote lodge, and the consensus is that it's one big babysitting job. So we scrapped the idea.
I manage to get by with freelance writing, my partner does some ecotourism guiding and the odd contract job. I tried selling mocassins and wild herb teas over the net, but it's not worth the time and effort. Also when you live remote, getting things to the post office is difficult and for months at a time impossible.
Personally, I think doing stuff over the net is the way to go. If you can work as a consultant, proposal writer, bookkeeper or whatever that requires only the odd meeting in person, you get to stay at home, don't have to bother with tourists wondering why the stove is smoking and still make some money.

[Ole WV Coot]

I make a walking stick out of hickory and use the natural rootball as I don't trust any connections. I see too many holes in Goju-Shorei for me, don't care for McNeill's system. When I was younger(40 yrs ago) I was taught Kali by a guy that worked with me. I prefer the old methods of Cunningham and E.W. Barton-Wright back to the guy in France that also taught. I use Dim-Mak training for striking points and everything someone my age can handle. I consider my style strictly offensive and rather direct. I make a few canes to sell but nothing I use because I consider the crook more for non-lethal and defense at my age I don't play defense. The carved walking sticks with Woodspirits are too long for my use. I guess I could say I have my own system, works for me.:D

[Sourdough]

They just today arrested a man in Anchor Point, Alaska for Farming. He is a small farmer with no government subsidy. He had over five hundred Marijuana Plants, and 25 firearms, Wow, I wonder if he had any neat firearms........?

They always make a big deal about the firearms, like Daa, show me some drug dealers, who lobby for "GUN CONTROL".......:p

[Sourdough]

Ole' Coot, I have "ATTACK" Geese, and I carry concealed Goose Food, I just throw the Goose Food on the bad guy and laugh my butt off.

[Ole WV Coot]

Ole' Coot, I have "ATTACK" Geese, and I carry concealed Goose Food, I just throw the Goose Food on the bad guy and laugh my butt off.

I posted about putting one in a guy's work van so I have a great respect for them. I have always wondered how brave you would have to be to get caught by one of them wearing a goose down jacket(might be a relative).:D I could hide behind my "attack" beagle, all 30lbs of him. We put any animal we could catch in someone's truck. I sat on a blacksnake one morning that was in mine so I caught one later in the day, nice one. Tied it up to a pole until I finished working and just as the boss came out to check on us the snake came down the road with 20 or so feet of telephone wire stopping traffic. He didn't say anything to the other men just looked at me and told me I was fired if it was in somebody's truck the next morning.:DDon't know how he knew it was me.:rolleyes:

[DOGMAN]

Working as year-round Wilderness Outfitter and Guide pays the majority of my expenses...Rafting, Canoeing and Fly-Fishing in the summer, Hunting in the Fall, Dogsledding in the winter.

However, I have to routinely supplement my income with "town" work such as working the occassional bartending shift (30 minute drive each way), teaching a class one night a week at the University (1 hour drive each way) write a few freelance articles for regional magazines a year, and do some web design. Also, been known to sell firewood, morels and huckleberries to restaurants and do some snowplowing.

Basically- I do whatever it takes

[Ken]

Musher, I may need heart surgery some day. Will you be available to operate?

[DOGMAN]

Musher, I may need heart surgery some day. Will you be available to operate?

Oh yeah, I'll operate. But we may have different takes on what constitutes success.

Question: What do you call the person who graduates last in their Medical School class?

Answer: Doctor

[Ken]

Where I come from, the correct answer is Defendant!

[DOGMAN]

Where I come from, the correct answer is Defendant!

LOL...Very nice...

[Chuck]

I make a living guiding bear hunters in the fall. In the winter and spring I run my trapline. I also write homesteading skills articles. There is a lodge about a mile from us that wants my wife and me to teach bush skills to their clients. We are pretty limited like wildwoman we live an 40 minute ($900.00 round trip ) flight from the nearest post office so that shuts off ebay stuff.

[Rick]

Guiding bare hunters?!:eek: Too kinky for me....oh, wait...you said bear. My bad.

[Aurelius95]

I have a "regular" job, but I also do some analysis work on a freelance basis. If I could ever ditch the "regular" one, I'm sure I could continue the other gig wherever I was, as long as i had a computer and connection. I assume those of you who are living out in the "bush" have satellite connections?

[Rick]

Satellite connections? I'll bet the CAT 5 cord for that puppy is expensive.

[RobertRogers]

Firewood, watching peoples camps while they are away, guide service,

[crashdive123]

Based on what Wild Woman has posted on other threads it looks like it is possible to get by on quite a bit less than most of us are used to. I imagine that takes adujusting just like anything else.

[crashdive123]

Driftwood. When I live up in your neck of the woods Woodwoes we did alot of motorcycle touring. One of my favorite rides was in the Ocean Shores area. Lot's of driftwood. Tourists will buy anything.

[RobertRogers]

Yeah, I've thought about loading up a semi full of beautiful driftwood specimens and taking it to NYC. The artsy types might go nuts over it.

[Rick]

Woodwose, there might be a glut of it in the PNW but there isn't in Indiana.:D If you set up an internet site, you can ship it anywhere. Of course you have the issue of getting to the post office.

I second (or third) the drift wood idea. People are a bit goofy for drift wood.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Firewood, watching peoples camps while they are away, guide service,

Or depending on your morality, watching for when people are away from their camps. :eek::D:rolleyes:

[wildWoman]

I have a "regular" job, but I also do some analysis work on a freelance basis. If I could ever ditch the "regular" one, I'm sure I could continue the other gig wherever I was, as long as i had a computer and connection. I assume those of you who are living out in the "bush" have satellite connections?

There's a number of companies that specialize in satellite internet for remote locations. Our connection is over hughes.net and works okay, with the occasional glitches. It's not a cheap way to go, especially since you have to get the installer out to your remote location to set it up, and also if it ever totally craps out. But if you can earn your annual income that way, run your telephone via voip, and utilize it for shopping (forget about taking advantage of sales at the store when you live in the bush) and banking as well, I think it is the best option. In Canada, radio phones are getting phased out anyway, and sat phones haven't really gone down in price, so some form of telecommunication is needed anyway for emergencies at the very least.
So when are you moving out into the woods, Aurelius?!

[Sourdough]

Radio Phones, WOW, I'll bet the kids born with a Blackberry up their butt, and a i-phone growing out each ear, never knew some people have radio phone. Your that we used to use commercial AM radio stations to send bush messages. They most likely think LANDLINES or HARDWIRE is prehistoric.

[Rick]

Even the first dial up "cell" phones was the old "Do you copy, over? Bzzzz, crackle, bzzzzzz."

[Chuck]

Radio Phones, WOW, I'll bet the kids born with a Blackberry up their butt, and a i-phone growing out each ear, never knew some people have radio phone. Your that we used to use commercial AM radio stations to send bush messages. They most likely think LANDLINES or HARDWIRE is prehistoric.


The Bush Pipeline
Caribou Clatters

I remember them well

[Alpine_Sapper]

They most likely think LANDLINES or HARDWIRE is prehistoric.

Yeah, didn't they dig up some of those things in that archeological site where they found the intact tyranosaurus rex skeleton? I'm pretty sure that's what that was.

Assitant: "Boss, look what I found! It's a hardwired LANDLINE! Perfectly preserved."

Researcher: "Go toss it in the rubbish pile with all the rest of the debris and useless junk. Then come help me recover this femur."

[Rick]

Well, would you look at that Coot? Alpine just shelved us with the dinosaurs. Figures! Of course, I do remember stringing open wire while sitting on top a Brontosaurus's head once. Bucket trucks hadn't been invented yet.

[Ole WV Coot]

I am shocked. These kids don't realize that anything that goes thru the air can be listened to. The only secure connections are good ole landlines working off fiber. They talk like this is new stuff and I worked on the first ESS(electronic switching system) back in 1965 when they were a twinkle in their daddy's eye. Open wire and cross arms made a man out of you, and if you couldn't climb a high pole with 60 or so lbs of tools and an 85lb lasher on your chest you weren't man enough for the job. Just a bunch of button pushers now, probably get disability for a hangnail. Dogs, snakes, irate husbands and women that locked you in the basement, they would fold up quick. Those were the days when we were WHALES AMONG MINNOWS, and otta show us more respect.

[Alpine_Sapper]

I am shocked. These kids don't realize that anything that goes thru the air can be listened to. The only secure connections are good ole landlines working off fiber. They talk like this is new stuff and I worked on the first ESS(electronic switching system) back in 1965 when they were a twinkle in their daddy's eye. Open wire and cross arms made a man out of you, and if you couldn't climb a high pole with 60 or so lbs of tools and an 85lb lasher on your chest you weren't man enough for the job. Just a bunch of button pushers now, probably get disability for a hangnail. Dogs, snakes, irate husbands and women that locked you in the basement, they would fold up quick. Those were the days when we were WHALES AMONG MINNOWS, and otta show us more respect.

roflmao. Anthing that goes over a land line is easier to tap than wireless. wireless you have to be either able to de-crypt the signal, or at least figure out how it's encoded. With a landline, all I have to do is walk up to the side of your house at night with a pair of alligator clips and a 100ft modular cord terminated with a RJ-11. Even if it's fiber, the easiest point is at the DTE. *shrug* and you're right. All I do is push buttons. The buttons that make the internet work. That cable/dsl/sat connection you got? What makes you think somebody's not sniffin' that with a layer 3 packet sniffer? And if you're on a Windows machine or a Mac? Chances are you are pwn3d and don't even realize your box was rooted until the IRC channel gets activated and the botnet is kicked on. And I do understand the technologies. You may have been the guy pluggin in cables, but I'm the guy that's managing the protocols flowing over those cables. Yup. I don't gotta climb a pole with 1000 lbs of gear. After spending years busting my butt as a roofer, construction, the army, etc etc, I prefer to use my brain for my job, and my body for my fun. :)

Besides, when you can explain the differences between the DOD TCP/IP stack and the OSI model then we can talk communications. :)

[Alpine_Sapper]

But seriously, I got respect for what you guys did/do. Without it none of the technologies what I work with would exist. I was just ruffling your feathers a bit.

[Ole WV Coot]

But seriously, I got respect for what you guys did/do. Without it none of the technologies what I work with would exist. I was just ruffling your feathers a bit.

I enjoyed it. I have been on the sideline for 12yrs and that's an eternity in communications. I went to school a few times a year just to keep up then. We used a breakdown to find taps, but it melted a few telephones, caught a trailer on fire, caught an access point on fire, killed a dog and started a fire in pulp cable, scrambled a SAC base and other fun things. I dearly loved to play "shrink" when I had to check for taps. I would go inside and over a cup of coffee the nice ladies would tell "why" they thought their line was tapped, and the stories you couldn't make up.;). I will admit we were light years behind you but I bet there's no way you could have the fun we did and still have a job.:D I guess we were rude, crude and socially unacceptable but after floods, hurricanes and other disasters we were very "popular":eek::eek:

[Rick]

Amen to the stories. There was the main control panel in Brazil built by the Nazis that control all the world's power and phones (true story). The monkey that climbs the tree in the alley to listen to her calls (true story). And you all thought you invented paranoia.

I'm not certain when we stopped using breakdown sets but it was for the same reasons you described. Liability issues and all that. Probably about the same time they remove the pike poles from the trucks and the crumb shovels.

[TBBucs]

I make a fairly steady income doing freelance work online. This includes writing, web development, software development, and various entrepreneurial ventures. I've found it to be a nice way to make some money, if you have any interest in that sort of thing.

Perhaps the best part about it is that you can get into it without any formal education; all you need is a bit of gumption and some online tutorials :)

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