Internet Reviews

[kyratshooter]

In relation to our thread about the "Itch" I was compelled to seek out and purchase a new firearm over the past two weeks.

As a bit of background information, I was checking out the cost of an H&R Pardner Pump for a friend and noticed that H&R also has an inexpensive semiauto shotgun in their line up. A clone of the Remington 1100, made in Turkey, for $280.

Having experience with several Turkish firearms I know their quality and durability and decided to check into this offering. I decided to buy on Saturday and waited for Monday morning to make my purchase and found the item sold out on the website when I woke that morning. The company did not know when they would get more in at the low price I had seen.

I should have ordered on line instead of waiting for Monday to do a phone order.

I was now bitten by the bug and overwhelmed by the "Itch". A long and thorough search ensued. I scoured the web looking for a replacement shotgun. I sought out offerings from each of the Turkish firms and discovered that I could have a better shotgun for only a few dollars more.

I believe that this was the first time I had purchased a firearm based completely on internet information, company research and direct web research including You-tube videos of the firearm in operation.

However, during this search I discovered some strange information! On websites and review boards all over the world I found some of the strangest reports and advice I have ever encountered. I discovered that many people that buy firearms know nothing about the devices (I was pretty assured of that anyway), and have some of the strangest views of "acceptability".

Just for the shotguns I researched, which wound up being some of the top sellers in the world, there were some very strange reports which had to completely discarded during the search.

1. This shotgun and every one of them that I looked at had a crack in the barrel half way down the bore! This is unacceptable!

A. Guess what bub? that "crack" is the gas relief port. Looking down the tube they are shadowed and look like a crack. It's a gas operated gun.

2. There are two holes drilled in the bottom of the barrel. How can a company try to force these defective barrels on the consumer? I sent it back and they did nothing! This is unacceptable!

A. Same as above!

3. Every one of these shotguns has a defective muzzle! All of them! Some moron has cut threads in them at the factory. This is unacceptable!

A. Apparently this person had never seen screw in choke tubes.

4, The muzzle is defective, there are grooves and notches cut into the inside. All of them except the riot guns are like this. This is unacceptable!

A. Same as #3, the notches and grooves are to identify the amount of choke and install and remove the tubes.

5. The first time I pulled the bolt back it stuck in the rear position and will not go forward. This defect is unacceptable!

A. Press the bolt release button, it is part of the shell lifter.

6. When my shotgun arrived it was covered with some kind of goo with some lint stuck to it. This is unacceptable. A firearm should arrive clean.

A. These shotguns are shipped all over the world and they are covered in preservative at the factory so they will not arrive covered with rust!

7. My shotgun has no rear sight, only a strange plastic tube at the muzzle. This is unacceptable!

A. Its a shotgun, most only have a front sight and that plastic tube is a fiber optic front sight. If you want a rear sight the frame is grooved for an 11mm sight base of your choice.

8. My shotgun will not eject shells and insert new ones. This is unacceptable!

A. Clean the goo off the gun and apply some oil.

9. My shotgun will not work with Wallmart shells but does fine with high brass duck loads. This is unacceptable. (this one was on You-tube)

A. Turn the gas piston over for low velocity loads. It has a hi and low position marked on the piston.

10. The recoil pad of my shotgun is lose. This is unacceptable!

A. It's a $300 gun, get a screw driver and tighten it!

I could continue for another hour and list all the "defects" these reviewers found but it is a waste of time. The real problem is that when you look at the ratings for each firearm you find that some excellent firearms are given only one or two out of five stars because the people that bought them were idiots!

And rather than mark down the offending firearm one star for a defect they give it a zero rating because in their view it is "unacceptable" due to the presence of lint, a lose screw, or the absence of the rear sight they anticipated.

Is the entire world beset by this "snow flake", whining, butt hurt personality disorder where some preconceived level of perfection is demanded and anything less is a personal insult?

[hunter63]

Sad isn't it....
Same conversations and comments can be heard at the gun counter in the big box outdoor stores....

Head shaker for sure......

[pete lynch]

Reminds me of the product reviews at Amazon where a great product gets 1 star rating because the shipper dented a corner of the box.

[finallyME]

In this modern age, I love the fact that for the most part, I can compare different stuff online and read the reviews. But, I also have to realize that people are idiots. Reading both the bad reviews and the good reviews does help me as a consumer. If all the reviews are paid (you can tell after reading a bunch of them) or all the good reviews are "my son liked it when I got it for him for his birthday", then read the bad ones. If all the bad reviews are by idiots....well anyways. I love reading the reviews. It is helpful at determining if a product is good, and if society is about to collapse.

By the way... if you haven't read the reviews for this product...
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[Rick]

Then you have to calculate that about half the good reviews are by the manufacturer. I once found an auto detailer that had some really great reviews. Then I realized all the reviews were from the same poster and it was the same poster that answered a customer question! Needless to say.......

[pete lynch]

.....By the way... if you haven't read the reviews for this product...
https://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gold-Bears-Gummi-Candy-5-Pound/dp/B000EVOSE4/ref=sxts_k2p_hero1_s_it?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2668834182&pd_rd_wg=xPEiI&pf_rd_r=EZVCSFWYV1SCX2DCQ8YT&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B000EVOSE4&pd_rd_w=lKQle&pf_rd_i=sugar%2Bfree%2Bgummy%2Bbears&pd_rd_r=6FR6TVM4AV533H0893F1&ie=UTF8&qid=1479139751&sr=1&th=1

I have never eaten a gummy bear and now I don't think I ever will. Ever.

[kyratshooter]

I read that the Children of Israel lived on gummy bears for 40 years while they were lost in the desert.

[hunter63]

I read that the Children of Israel lived on gummy bears for 40 years while they were lost in the desert.

That was on the interwebs...Right?

[crashdive123]

It is now, so it must be true.

[Wildthang]

I read that the Children of Israel lived on gummy bears for 40 years while they were lost in the desert.

Correction, Gummy Vitamins

[madmax]

Yeah it's a two way street with gun reviews. I stopped reading gun magazines because I lost trust in them. That was about the time they were touting the Rhino revolver as a great innovation.

I have enough gun friends that whenever I "get an itch" somebody I know has or had one. I trust my friends.

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