Dinty Moore stew? not moore less.... where can I find a good canned meal? I adde

[Wise Old Owl]

https://youtu.be/bcC0mrwy4Tc

As I add to the blog.. this was outstanding... I went looking for canned meals with easy open tops for my larder.... woops.... my bad. I grew up on this crap... The changes are beyond what I can wrap my head around. Bland - fake meat. yea nothing hearty here, total BS. I added frozen peas and carrots and a dash of low sodium English Worcestershire and got back remotely to what I remember,,, How Disappointing. Total lack of flavor.... ewwwww.

[Wise Old Owl]

I forgot to mention... there isn't any beef.... its burger... with, a forming thing going on.

[Rick]

Nothing tastes the same as it did when we were kids. Our tastes change over time. As we age our taste buds stop regenerating and our sense of smell, which is crucial to good taste, dulls. The things that tasted so great in our youth are now bland and unappealing unless we start spicing it up as you did. By the way, burger is beef.

[Phaedrus]

That is true, Rick, but there's more going on here. There's a race to the bottom with many (if not most) mass produced commercial items. Manufacturers are finding "innovative" ways to maintain profits by making ever cheaper products. Sometimes the product is made with lower quality ingredients while other times a smaller portion is surreptitiously slipped into traditional packaging to disguise the new smaller size. A few good examples of the latter include the way tuna is now packaged with much less fish but more water in the same familiar sized can and the fact that things like hot dogs that used to be packed in 16 oz packs are usually shorted a now to 14oz or less.

It's not just nostalgia. Look at a 50 year old Case knife and look at what they're selling now. This applies to lots of tools, household goods and furniture. My mom has a vacuum cleaner that's at least 50 years old that will probably run another fifty with just a new belt every few presidents. The vacuum cleaner I have is all plastic and will probably need to be replaced after a year or two. Don't get me wrong- it's not all bad. Part of it is driven by differing consumer demands. I think modern technology has created a mindset where we have learned to replace our stuff every few years now. Maybe people aren't willing to pay for something that will last 25 years anymore. Of course some is bad. Offshoring has led to a crapload of very shoddy consumer goods being imported from Asia now. The prices are very low (in the short run) but the long term impact is cloudier.

[Phaedrus]

BTW, it's very common now to see chopped-and-formed meats where you used to see whole muscle. A big part of this is technology. The discovery/invention of transglutaminase has created a low cost way to bind scrap proteins into a reasonable facsimile of a whole chunk. I use this stuff myself but for more "noble" and creative purposes like "gluing" bacon to stuff and keeping roulades from unrolling.

[pete lynch]

Hanover makes a "soup" called Chicken Pot Pie but is really chicken 'n dumplings in a can. Not too bad if you like slick dumplings.

[WalkingTree]

I always figured that it's not because our taste buds change, but because our tastes change. When we're younger, we aren't very discriminatory in our tastes yet. We don't know what's good yet. We like things for different reasons than we do later on. And we remember things from our younger days differently. A person could point out that kids can be quite picky and finicky; That's true, but that pickiness isn't necessarily the same kind of pickiness. In fact it often is from not having developed 'good taste' in some respects.

I gave up a long time ago (in fact the idea seemed nonsensical from the very beginning for me) on taking some inexpensive or blandish food product and 'fixing it up' with things that I add to it...by the time I'm done, it isn't as inexpensive anymore and I might as well have made my own stuff from scratch. Additionally, my reaction to people doing things like getting a bunch of ramen noodles because it's cheap and they're poor, has been to point out that you can get a big batch of normal pasta for about the same and other stuff and just cooking normally...or rather, if the latter isn't as inexpensive, you're not getting anything to eat anyway with a bunch of ramen noodles. Might as well try to survive on and fill up with water. My attitude is that a lot of the so-called 'quick and easy' inexpensive products is just about marketing - it's not that it's cheap or easier to prepare, but it's that you believe that it is...you believe that you're avoiding actual cooking yet getting something that's any good for your body.

As distasteful as it is, lots of the food products which are the result of disassembling and reassembling into pseudo-forms from scrap and components...is probably from trying to be more efficient in the context of what it takes to feed all the humans that there are and how much waste there already is. The financial motivations could be singled out - trying to make things cheaper and get a bigger profit margin, and getting what we think of as low quality according to certain ideal criteria - but the financial concerns could just be a reflection of this need to be more efficient in our practices; It boils down to the bottom line, but it may not be because of that bottom line. That bottom line just represents other concerns or necessities. In primitive wilderness survival, you're not going to throw away a week's food just because it didn't come from a certain part of the animal let alone any critter or plant that isn't what you'd prefer in a perfect abundant world. You're not trying to make a meal look or taste like it would in an indulgent restaurant...you're just trying to eat and make it safe and nutritional. And your bottom line is the time and effort you spend on getting that food, whatever it is. And thinking about whether or not your environment has enough of what you'd prefer in a perfect situation. Even if that bottom line is not 'money', it's still there.

[Rick]

WT - You're on the right track. Kids actually have a heightened sense of sweetness and bitterness. That's why they are little cookie monsters and why they turn their nose up at some things we enjoy especially in the vegetable realm.

[randyt]

some of the best canned meats came from the commodity hand outs, that and the block of cheese.

[Wise Old Owl]

Thanks for the posts so far... right on point. Yea I thought it would be a good idea to have canned meats in the basement larder. But this is backfiring, when I see the quality of what's available. The Canned Chicken is Ok and I will check out Hanover Chicken pot pie. I will have to look for other choices as well.

11090

[Wise Old Owl]

11091Its funny I remember this stuff with peas - but as I research canned dinners, I was mostly wrong on the peas in Dinty Moore...this pic was very hard to find....I found ham with noodles, beef and dumplings, beef and noodles, but never seen it on the store shelf.

OK moving on - the microwave shelf stable meals appear to have a one year shelf life....so I wont be picking this up.... 11092

[hunter63]

WT....Had to give you some rep for the summery....pretty much is the way things work out.

As far as many foods, I suffer from burn out.... Dinty Moore canned stew being one....and many canned soups.
Many years of "Machine Cuisine"....in the factory, to say nothing of OD'ing on things like Mac& Cheese and beans and whinnies as a young single....

Add many camping trips were certain standard cans of heat and eat were, same-o. same-o....with added shore lunches.....Were,"If it works, go for it"
You are filling a hole, while hunting and fishing.......not cooking a 5 course meal, type eating.

[WalkingTree]

WT....Had to give you some rep for the summery...
Hey. Everybody stop giving me rep points. I'm gonna start thinking that I'm worth a flip. Stop it now. Stop it I tell you. Stop the madness.

[crashdive123]

Hey. Everybody stop giving me rep points. I'm gonna start thinking that I'm worth a flip. Stop it now. Stop it I tell you. Stop the madness.

Do you want me to take them away? :whistling:

[Wildthang]

Spam,

So many things you do with it! Spam and noodles, spamburger helper, Spam loaf, Spam soup, Spam lasagna, it just goes on forever!

[hunter63]

11091Its funny I remember this stuff with peas - but as I research canned dinners, I was mostly wrong on the peas in Dinty Moore...this pic was very hard to find....I found ham with noodles, beef and dumplings, beef and noodles, but never seen it on the store shelf.

OK moving on - the microwave shelf stable meals appear to have a one year shelf life....so I wont be picking this up.... 11092

Your attachments didn't show up....

[Rick]

Yeah, Spam. You can even ban it!

[Phaedrus]

It's not really a case of using more of the animal by modern necessity; packers have always done this. Every scrap of the animal is used for something. Soap, pet food, cosmetics, etc. At a packing plant near me they wryly say they use every part of the pigs except the squeal. I think there are two big modern factors at work. The first is technology. Between new processing methods and new chemicals more effects can be achieved. The second is the public perceptions of food. The modern processed foods industry arose from technology created tech fight WW2. After the war US industry began marketing the stuff to housewives. To shorten this a bit the current generation has grown up eating massive amounts of highly processed foods. Early processed stuff mimicked "real"/whole foods that customers were used to eating. But modern processed stuff strays a bit 'from the source material' in that it doesn't have to mimic old fashioned home cooking since that's not the frame of reference for most folks now.

Fwiw I'm a chef so I look at food trends a little differently than some.

[WalkingTree]

Ban spam. Spam ban. Banned spam. Say one of 'em three times really fast.

How much spam
could a spam-banner ban
if a spam-banner
couldn't ban spam

...really fast without spitting.

[hunter63]

Now....Y'all HAD to know THIS was coming........Right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o

[WalkingTree]

What's in your wallet? Spam?

[Wise Old Owl]

Uh yea... I soak it in Rufus Teague's hot BBQ and jam that into the dryer in thin planks...and I and the dogs love it.... Pork shoulder meat... yea!

It dehydrates to less than 1/3 the weight of a can.

[Wise Old Owl]

Found another pepper can... interesting the first ingredient is meat - not sauce... OK in my book

11104

[kyratshooter]

The Wolf chili is good stuff.

They stock it at Kroger.

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