Thinking outside the box Larger portable shelters.

[Wise Old Owl]

Found this odd gem of a video for 1 person... thought I would share....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXtMpQk9Iyw

[canid]

But if it's a video for 1 person how can I be sure I'm that one? I wouldn't want to deprive somebody else. :P

[Wise Old Owl]

oh - OK I will let one more person to have an odd opinion after that I expect serious thread drift.

[canid]

Hey; I didn't choose your wording. The micro house is pretty cool, though I think in that size range I would prefer an rv or trailer and have the portability.

[Wise Old Owl]

I am not taking it personally I just have very dry ...Vermouth Dry Humor

[hunter63]

Seems the Tiny House Movement is a popular pass time.......
Week end programming on DYI, HGTV, ....has been pushing Tiny Houses for a while now.

Even my SIL, kinda a big deal professional Designer/Decorator has been talking about it.
Still waiting to see if MB will build her one....to play with.....Not his strong suit....LOL

I did use her notes and part of her design....on our cabin.....
She more was into arranging furniture then figuring out where the water heater, stove, cabinets,....so I needed to modify the potted plant plan.....To the Mechanical Plan.

Personally they are interesting on some of the built-ins and use of storage techniques.

They truly remind me of campers, park homes and mobile homes.

Looking forward to the show 2-5 years from now......
"How I got the heck out on that little bity square....and my marriage"

Some time you need a little ........Space

[Faiaoga]

Neat idea for student housing, retirees and to help solve the homeless problem. He did not state the estimated cost, though:pirate

[kyratshooter]

I have been typing and erasing for quite some time trying to reply to this thread and I have discovered that there are not enough words to express how much I hate the "tiny house" concept.

It is the ideal shelter for people that have simply given up on doing anything or having anything and need a roof and walls while they wait to die.

Mostly because for just a wee bit more they could have had a real house and built a home, not just a place to stay.

You are talking about a "house" the size of most small apartment bedrooms.

Cost? I would estimate it at $50k, not counting price of the land and site prep. All that technology is not cheap and codes have to be met, and that building would not pass codes in my area.

[hunter63]

I predict this is a fad.....Good news is 2-3 years from now...you will be able to pick one up for a couple of 1000 bucks.

I suspect not many of those wanting a Tiny house, or a Cube shelter has ever spent much time in one.
You notice that many are designed for The homeless and Low cost housing, by people that are .....not gonna live in one.

We spent many hunting seasons in "The Place, Original Edition.....1963 16ft Shasta"...bunk on each end....front bunk was the table, had to change anf remake bed every night.
Had refrigerator, and Micro wave (in the what used to be a closet) sink, stove with oven, gravity furnace was replace with forced air propane.
Storage was under bunk, or shelf over the back bunk.

Port-a-potty was in the middle of the floor.....moved to shed the following year......Nothing like togetherness when taking a dump 2 ft. away from you when it's 10 degrees out side.

Shed was used as the "out house" and food/water storage with electric heaters.....to keep from freezing.

After a few years we added a shower with water collector and composting toilet in the shed lean-to......

This served as "The Place" from 1990 to 2005....for every turkey season, deer season, duck season, family vacations canoeing fishing, 4 wheeling and generally playing around with alternate systems, farming and mushroom hunting.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/PICT0135.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/PICT0135.jpg.html)

Cabin came in 2005 and is 16' x 40' with two lofts.......and is still small.

Say nothing about codes.....many areas have Minimum square footage rules....actually our original covenant at "The Place" was:
No mobile homes, 800 square feet, enclosed with in one year....from start of construction.

[canid]

Do you suppose it's thinking outside the box because there's not even room to do that inside?

[Wise Old Owl]

Thanks for sharing Hunter. - what did you do for electric?

[kyratshooter]

I had the same set up for a year, living in an 18ft Nomad.

The second year I stepped up to a 27 ft Dutchman w/complete kitchen and a bathroom with a mini-tub and thought I was in hog heaven.

Off grid for the entire two years using solar and generator power.

By the end of the second year I had the cabin finished and put electricity in. Flipping that switch for the first time was one of the happiest moments in my life!

Worrying about all the upkeep of an off grid system while working for a living is a misery and not the "free from the system" joy everyone thinks. Something is always going wrong and it usually goes wrong at 3am in a snowstorm with a 30mph wind.

Even before I finished the house I had built a 10x20 workshop and a 10x16 storage shed.

When I moved to the present place I lived in a 24' Nomad for 3 months while I remodeled the house, but I had electric and sewer on site. I was working so hard on the remodel that I only used the "tiny house" as a sleeping spot.

Where does a guy living in a 10x10x10 cube keep his table saw, belt sander, drill press, riding mower or the set of snow tires?

Part of my remodel was adding a workshop off the back of the house that is bigger than "the cube" shown in the video.

My screened in back porch is bigger than their "cube"!

[Wise Old Owl]

Why not a camper?... darn good question.... They suck when temps drop, insulation is very poor and more $$ to heat effectively. Most campers appear to be sold round here as 3 season... once you decide to go four season - you need insulation or antifreeze for the grey and black tanks. This is partially why you see the composting toilets on Tiny House on Discovery. I just bought a camper and I am learning a lot!

[hunter63]

Long story....but did have a "seasonal service" put in.....
First they said I had to have a house BEFORE they would hook up a service......but having elect on site would make building a lot easier???
Now a lesson in "City people rules" and how things are really done for farmers and local people.

So, anyway while driving down the road, noticed the poles and boxes w/meters next to driveways and parking pads....with campers there on and off.

So I ask about them.....
They said..."Oh those are seasonal sites....and cost you $15 buck a month, even if you don't use any power".
Well....DUH....That's what I want!.....
Bingo, 2 week later, had a power pole, meter/disconnect breaker and outlet on pole....with a twist lock plug hanging there.
Made life sooooo much easier.....now I had power to build the off grid stuff....LOL.

Co-op put in my pole, meter and hook up (had to buy it) ......but gave me 100ft off the road.
Hired a Co-op guy after hours to put in a disconnect and 2- 30 amp breakers.....for 230 (2 -115 circuits)
Twist lock plug in....and 250 ft. of #10 3 wire....run down the hill....was on top of the ground.....now buried about 6 inches down.
Had to move it to excavate for the cabin....then reconnect it to my breaker box in the house.
$250 for the pole/meter install....and $100 bucks for the hook up and outlet.

Funny story...... The next door neighbor , at the time...from Illinois, called me...and asked how much it cost for my power pole.

I guess he had gone down to the Co-op in town on Friday afternoon... and wanted everything put in on that week end......they told him would be $2000 bucks.
Thinking is was one of those, "This dude is a city azzhat, and wants us to work week ends....so let's stick it to him".....Deals.

He calls to tell me this......and was kinda pissed....LOL
So I told him to just run a extension cord to his little camper for my pole (100 ft off the road) was about the same distance as my camper down the hill....as it gonna cost me $15 buck for power anyway.

Now the classic comment....."Don't you lock the switch box?.......Bhohahahah......
Told him "No, don't think anyone is gonna come down the road...run a 100 ft cord to the box, plug in and dry their hair......"
I mean, Come on, Seriously?

Anyway shortly there after he sold that piece.....and my present neighbor to the west bought it out from under me....I guess I pizzed him off.

[Wise Old Owl]

kudos - I got the message... thanks.

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Odin (http://gardeningleave.ru/t/1027535)С-12 (http://gascautery.ru/t/1143795)Mell (http://gashbucket.ru/t/667218)Tesc (http://gasreturn.ru/t/1143931)Воло (http://gatedsweep.ru/t/795702)каба (http://gaugemodel.ru/t/1161270)Stra (http://gaussianfilter.ru/t/1200980)Rond (http://gearpitchdiameter.ru/t/928157)Tesc (http://geartreating.ru/t/922985)Tesc (http://generalizedanalysis.ru/t/890214)Доло (http://generalprovisions.ru/t/835676)XVII (http://geophysicalprobe.ru/t/838029)Кеки (http://geriatricnurse.ru/t/854187)Минд (http://getintoaflap.ru/t/852993)ИКМу (http://getthebounce.ru/t/473633)
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Almo (http://heavydutymetalcutting.ru/t/1182108)Quik (http://jacketedwall.ru/t/605970)Wind (http://japanesecedar.ru/t/608279)Горб (http://jibtypecrane.ru/t/717765)Ritc (http://jobabandonment.ru/t/638255)Soni (http://jobstress.ru/t/635840)и�ку (http://jogformation.ru/t/677065)Push (http://jointcapsule.ru/t/1144677)3036 (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru/t/1147491)Sony (http://journallubricator.ru/t/1032667)Enig (http://juicecatcher.ru/t/1144682)FELI (http://junctionofchannels.ru/t/1179988)Circ (http://justiciablehomicide.ru/t/1181486)визи (http://juxtapositiontwin.ru/t/1182851)Кова (http://kaposidisease.ru/t/1179638)
англ (http://keepagoodoffing.ru/t/852636)Zone (http://keepsmthinhand.ru/t/611769)Elwo (http://kentishglory.ru/t/1182722)Борт (http://kerbweight.ru/t/1048779)Zone (http://kerrrotation.ru/t/608456)Miyo (http://keymanassurance.ru/t/610667)Weni (http://keyserum.ru/t/1180505)Rona (http://kickplate.ru/t/829977)Will (http://killthefattedcalf.ru/t/1199540)от�т (http://kilowattsecond.ru/t/763010)Теле (http://kingweakfish.ru/t/817594)изме (http://kinozones.ru/film/5790)Кузн (http://kleinbottle.ru/t/677616)Mars (http://kneejoint.ru/t/773258)Osir (http://knifesethouse.ru/t/1179645)
�ере (http://knockonatom.ru/t/609451)MORI (http://knowledgestate.ru/t/758188)и�ку (http://kondoferromagnet.ru/t/1067600)Zone (http://labeledgraph.ru/t/1194116)Pink (http://laborracket.ru/t/1014691)Will (http://labourearnings.ru/t/1311463)Штед (http://labourleasing.ru/t/1015964)Zone (http://laburnumtree.ru/t/1190215)зака (http://lacingcourse.ru/t/1188495)Chet (http://lacrimalpoint.ru/t/1187654)Zone (http://lactogenicfactor.ru/t/1186470)02-1 (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru/t/1183997)Pier (http://ladletreatediron.ru/t/1048613)Zone (http://laggingload.ru/t/1189818)Zone (http://laissezaller.ru/t/1191507)
Zone (http://lambdatransition.ru/t/1191560)Zone (http://laminatedmaterial.ru/t/1192986)фиан (http://lammasshoot.ru/t/1183743)diam (http://lamphouse.ru/t/1184691)diam (http://lancecorporal.ru/t/1184640)Will (http://lancingdie.ru/t/1153970)Zone (http://landingdoor.ru/t/1188232)зака (http://landmarksensor.ru/t/1184361)Zone (http://landreform.ru/t/1186546)чи�т (http://landuseratio.ru/t/1184866)Zone (http://languagelaboratory.ru/t/1190670)хоро (http://largeheart.ru)Thel (http://lasercalibration.ru)NTSC (http://laserlens.ru/lase_zakaz/1747)DAXX (http://laserpulse.ru)

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Лен� (http://manualchoke.ru)Hand (http://medinfobooks.ru)kbps (http://mp3lists.ru/item/5526)Vali (http://nameresolution.ru)Educ (http://naphtheneseries.ru)Aero (http://narrowmouthed.ru)Ricc (http://nationalcensus.ru)авто (http://naturalfunctor.ru)пеги (http://navelseed.ru)гран (http://neatplaster.ru)Wind (http://necroticcaries.ru)Fred (http://negativefibration.ru)Worl (http://neighbouringrights.ru)моза (http://objectmodule.ru)Moul (http://observationballoon.ru/shop/97551)
Бала (http://obstructivepatent.ru)Vict (http://oceanmining.ru/shop/473225)ВиÑ�к (http://octupolephonon.ru/shop/573237)ЛитÐ* (http://offlinesystem.ru)упра (http://offsetholder.ru)(Ð�лм (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)ТеÑ�к (http://onesticket.ru)Бенд (http://packedspheres.ru)Голо (http://pagingterminal.ru)ЛитÐ* (http://palatinebones.ru)Дани (http://palmberry.ru)ЛитÐ* (http://papercoating.ru)ЛитÐ* (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)Волк (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)Заре (http://parkingbrake.ru)
разн (http://partfamily.ru)Гурк (http://partialmajorant.ru)Гуцк (http://quadrupleworm.ru)иде� (http://qualitybooster.ru)от�т (http://quasimoney.ru)Hono (http://quenchedspark.ru)Paul (http://quodrecuperet.ru)Robe (http://rabbetledge.ru)Happ (http://radialchaser.ru)Воро (http://radiationestimator.ru)FLEX (http://railwaybridge.ru)движ (http://randomcoloration.ru)Гукк (http://rapidgrowth.ru)теле (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru)Joan (http://reachthroughregion.ru)
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