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InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 01:21 AM
https://youtu.be/tDhM54nV3js

But, i do carry a smith and wesson 38(special)hollow tip. with a custom grip and pocket lip. my intention is to grind the hammer,,,clean off lol
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InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 01:25 AM
https://youtu.be/C4nCy5CITc8
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k, i think thats coherent now, maybe lol

this is one bad boy lol

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 01:51 AM
k, think i got that puzzle figured out lol

you know i dont actually, include a gun as part of my survival gear. i own other guns, a shot gun, a mosburg rifle etc. i am pretty familiar with techniques of hunting by improvisation though.

but the 38, has a whole lot of stopping power if you know what i mean.
it will take a +200 man to the ground. like something out of a comic book.

ive never had problems with bears. most of the time they are cowards.

Rick
03-28-2016, 05:34 AM
Most of the time?

1stimestar
03-28-2016, 05:45 AM
ive never had problems with bears. most of the time they are cowards.

You don't mention where you are from so I can't comment on the condition of your bears.

1stimestar
03-28-2016, 06:12 AM
My bush dwelling friend told me I should file the site off my .357 so it would hurt less when the bear shoved it up my (you know).

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 06:39 AM
My bush dwelling friend told me I should file the site off my .357 so it would hurt less when the bear shoved it up my (you know).
the hammer snags on my pocket when i go to pull it out. carrying loose. so, yeah, im going to grind it off. that way if i go to the cascade or peabody's and someone trys to rob us of the PA or our amps,guitars, etc. i can pull it out ,,,quick like see

https://youtu.be/9Z6cVUOhLDw

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 08:24 AM
Whenever i need to take care of a bear i just pull out my knuckles ... *what sucker, you didnt just eat my fish*
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i get my junk out and urinate in its face. then sucker punch it...in the nose lol

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 08:30 AM
my dinner? yeah right.. man i dont let no bears push me round ...lol
https://youtu.be/_b6tJMD34qw

crashdive123
03-28-2016, 08:51 AM
I think we have jumped the shark into the realm of fantasy.

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 09:19 AM
make a coat out of its a$$.

the reality is. if youre not afraid. the bear will be.. if you charge a bear. its about a 99% chance its going to run like the sky is falling. even leave its cubs behind. its only got balls if you dont

https://youtu.be/DU_ggFovJNo

Rick
03-28-2016, 09:21 AM
I sure hope that works out well for you. The reality part.

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 09:45 AM
call it Mace's survival training 101 lol

The Law Of Nature https://youtu.be/k7_hwgD1ugg

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 10:18 AM
Just messing with you guys really. Though thats absolutely true. Really depends on the mood the bear is in. If for instance it has just finished wrestling with one of its buddies. Charging it isnt likely to scare it off lol. Or if its starving. And you have food. ..Your senses will actually tell you though.

Still, i think for some reason. That a real survival situation has a way. Of revealing just how intelligent the animal kingdom 'really' is.(They are masters of the intuition.) And i think it has a way of making apparent something else as well lol. Did you know, that 25% or more of your bodies total energy;continuously. Is distributed toward the brain and the mind alone?

Emotions in fact,like fear,exponentially increase this demand for energy.

https://youtu.be/SFdN3syFxeY

Lamewolf
03-28-2016, 11:25 AM
k, think i got that puzzle figured out lol

you know i dont actually, include a gun as part of my survival gear. i own other guns, a shot gun, a mosburg rifle etc. i am pretty familiar with techniques of hunting by improvisation though.

but the 38, has a whole lot of stopping power if you know what i mean.
it will take a +200 man to the ground. like something out of a comic book.

ive never had problems with bears. most of the time they are cowards.

They are a man stopper with the right load, I saw where 2 FBI agents shot a felon 12 times in the chest with 38's several years ago and the felon was still able to kill one of the agents and put the other in the hospital with a knife !

Lamewolf
03-28-2016, 11:28 AM
ive never had problems with bears. most of the time they are cowards.

I bear hunt with a club ! But there are 100 members in the club ! :w00t:

kyratshooter
03-28-2016, 12:25 PM
Every year bears kill people who thought they could tell what kind of "mood" the bear was in.

The truth is that bears are animals and they don't spend a lot of time "thinking". They are motivated by their eternal quest for food. The only thing they are "thinking" is "FOOD"/"NOT FOOD" "protect the cubs" "time to breed", all at different levels of intensity depending on the presence of resources and the season.

Those in the urban/suburban setting tend to give animals far more credit than they deserve and even transfer human emotion to them when they are generally guided by instinct.

Those in the urban/suburban setting also tend to give firearms magical powers too. Judging by your description of the power level of a .38spl I strongly suspect that you have never fired that snubbie at any living creature. It simply does not do what you say it will do.

hunter63
03-28-2016, 12:38 PM
I glad I tuned in today.....
I would have missed all this valuable information about bears....and Bada$$ .38's.....and hammers in the butte...

Carry on......got to refill the coffee cup.

kyratshooter
03-28-2016, 12:59 PM
Yea, I got concerned about that hammer spur a few years back after I had the first colonoscopy. I decided to take the safe way out, knowing the inevitable, and bought one of these.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766342_-1_795154_775658_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Yea, I need more coffee too. You guys proceed.

Wildthang
03-28-2016, 01:09 PM
This thread is tainted:smartass:

Seniorman
03-28-2016, 01:14 PM
the hammer snags on my pocket when i go to pull it out. carrying loose. so, yeah, im going to grind it off.

I.W., you're asking for trouble by "grinding off the hammer" of your S&W J frame .38 Spec. The various springs in the mechanism have a particular tension and function long established by S&W factory gun designers and engineers, to function the hammer in regard to the design of the hammer and the WEIGHT of the hammer.

You'll have a high chance of misfires if you grind off the hammer and do not also change the various springs that cause the hammer to "do its job," meaning striking the primer hard enough to fire the cartridge. You also take a good chance of throwing off the cylinder timing.

A very good, experienced gunsmith knows how to do it and change the various springs but the kitchen table bubba with his handy-dandy Dremel tool hasn't a clue.

Which are you?? :noway:

S.M.

crashdive123
03-28-2016, 02:42 PM
So, InsolentWretch......Just how many bear encounters have you had (you still haven't told us where you live)? How many bears have sucker punched or peed on? Been robbed a lot on the trail?

kyratshooter
03-28-2016, 02:59 PM
This thread is tainted:smartass:

Yea, we saw that right off,

but its Monday and there's nothing else to do while taking breaks between projects.

It's sort of fun since we had such a dull slow stretch last week after all the excitement of the weeks before.

Come on Crash, you are the ruler of the IP addresses, just tell us what part of Kalifornia he is in! I think that headband is only allowed on the west coast. At least west and south of Las Vegas.


Seniorman, S&W uses what are basically universal springs in each series of revolver. K and L frame springs interchange and can be used in the N frame in a pinch. The trigger return spring is the same in all but the J frame. Even in the J frame there are a half dozen models, some with hammers and some without, and all the springs are the same part number.

I have ground as much as half the metal from the sides of the flat S&W mainsprings and still had enough slap to fire without failure. You always take the metal from the sides and never the flat surface.

S&W uses an adjustment screw at the bottom of the grip to allow tweaking for positive function of the mainspring and even after you screw it all the way in you can shim it for more power.

The only model that does not have the adjustment is the J frame, which uses a coil spring and is a bit more picky in its mainspring tension requirements. I learned long ago that you do not remove more than two turns of coil from the J frame mainspring or you sill get misfires. For that reason you have to polish the crap out of the internals on the J frame to get a good pull.

And there are several aftermarket companies that offer different weights of spring tension. So the S&W revolver is a very durable item and not prone to malfunction just because a 100 year old mainspring has lost some of its punch.

Bobbing the hammer on a J frame was a common modification back when they were about the only hideout gun around. That spur can really dig into you at times, and it is the only thing on the S&W that will hook or snag on clothing.

I even have an N-frame with bobbed hammer.

Rick
03-28-2016, 03:04 PM
The only thing in this thread that's important is whether Bear would drink bear pee. Beyond that, my head hurts.

hunter63
03-28-2016, 03:11 PM
The only thing in this thread that's important is whether Bear would drink bear pee. Beyond that, my head hurts.

Too bad this will show up when you Google "Bear protection"
It will reference this thread as new...."Go to Wilderness Survival Forums".

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 03:22 PM
They are a man stopper with the right load, I saw where 2 FBI agents shot a felon 12 times in the chest with 38's several years ago and the felon was still able to kill one of the agents and put the other in the hospital with a knife !

gots pretty smashed last night huh lol https://youtu.be/-u-HCHCuHMg

yeah really depends on where you hit and how close you are. just exaggerating really. you can shoot a guy 2-3 times with the navy colt 45. at close rage;knife in hand he can still easily kill you. may not even feel that hes been hit. he'll hear it though LOL the sound of the 38 will leave you in shock at close range,leave your ears ringing for a good 5 minutes. and it'll be a good 10 minutes before you can hear anything other than muffled noise(though, chances are really good that he'll feel it with a hollow point LOL its only a matter of moments before he hits the ground) most of the time though youll hit bone or dense muscle tissue. and at moderately(not to close but not to far either) close range. hollow point easily is going to feel like you were hit by a car. and will put a 200 pound fellow right to the ground. hollow point 38 cartage unfold like the petals of a flower to a good inch diameter lol. near slug size.

if you arnt prone to panic,youve got good aim,and squeeze;not pull. aiming right for the chest rip 2-3 shots. lol ,,,fight over
once you get to know your revolver. you will be able to feel two clicks as the cinder shifts. as long as you are sighted steady by the turn of that last click. (which means the guns about to fire) then you probably are going to hit the bullseye.

If i pull the trigger, my intention is to kill lol. not harm. you get in a shooting situation around here. these dudes will shoot in every tangent direction as they run for cover. you can be standing next to them and they'll probably miss.

but i dont take cover. i sight, squeeze two-three shots out. ..then i take cover :) ...if all the crack junkies havent dispersed. and they always do.
i also carry a speed loader.

the trick is to squeeze smoothly lol. not pull. (what is the smith 38? 7-10 pound trigger?. takes practice) and keeping your sight till the very end of that squeeze.(being mindful of those subtle clicks)(when you pull the gun tends to tilt just a little bit right before the pin hits the primer) aiming for the greatest surface area. 3rd times the charm one you get the timing right. between your sighting and squeeze. and with a little practice. it will become an intuitive. thats why these trained cops end up prematurely firing. cuz fear will turn that intuitive reflex into a knee jerk reaction

((Note: obviously this applies only to do or die situations))

https://youtu.be/NUAdgt5Glk0

Seniorman
03-28-2016, 04:11 PM
KYRATSHOOTER - "... Even in the J frame there are a half dozen models, some with hammers and some without, and all the springs are the same part number. ..."

Nevertheless, when wannabee kitchen table "gunsmiths" start grinding down hammers on J frame S&W revolvers, they very often screw up the ignition system. I've seen it several times. When I lived in Los Angeles, I was well acquainted with one of the armorers at the Los Angeles Sheriff's Dept. armory. At that time, LASD issued the S&W Combat Masterpiece (Model 15), .38 Spec., to all LASD deputy sheriffs. The S&W J frame .38 Spec. was authorized as a BUG (backup gun) so long as a deputy qualified with it.

The armorer I knew had attended the S&W Armory School, and the instructors had taught him how to bob hammers on J frame Smith & Wesson revolvers. It was not unusual for certain undercover deputies to carry them. He told me some deputies tried to bob or grind down the hammers themselves and they screwed them up. He and his armorer partner then had to fix them properly.

He said specifically one of the problems was changing the weight of the hammer and the other was the springs, specifically the Cylinder Stop Spring, the Rebound Slide Spring, and the Hand Spring. I know the J frame revolvers he and his armorer partner bobbed, worked perfectly. I've seen J frames that had been hammer bobbed by bubba and his Dremel tool fail to fire. I've never bobbed the hammers on my N, K, and J frame S&W revolvers so guess I'll stick with what I have. They seem to work just fine.

Just my experience. :yes:

L.W.

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 04:26 PM
Nevertheless, when wannabee kitchen table "gunsmiths" start grinding down hammers on J frame S&W revolvers, they very often screw up the ignition system. I've seen it several times. When I lived in Los Angeles, I was well acquainted with one of the armorers at the Los Angeles Sheriff's Dept. armory. At that time, LASD issued the S&W Combat Masterpiece (Model 15), .38 Spec., to all LASD deputy sheriffs. The S&W J frame .38 Spec. was authorized as a BUG (backup gun) so long as a deputy qualified with it. The armorer I knew had attended the S&W Armory School, and the instructors had taught him how to bob hammers on J frame Smith & Wesson revolvers. It was not unusual for certain undercover deputies to carry them. He told me some deputies tried to bob or grind down the hammers themselves and they screwed them up. He and his armorer partner then had to fix them properly.

He said specifically one of the problems was changing the weight of the hammer and the other was the springs, specifically the Cylinder Stop Spring, the Rebound Slide Spring, and the Hand Spring. I know the J frame revolvers he and his armorer partner bobbed, worked perfectly. I've seen J frames that had been hammer bobbed by bubba and his Dremel tool fail to fire. I've never bobbed the hammers on my N, K, and J frame S&W revolvers so guess I'll stick with what I have. They seem to work just fine.

Just my experience. :yes:

L.W.

I say this with all do respect sir. but im not exactly a stranger

nah, friend. there is no significant weight change in removing steel from the hammer...(besides, the entire hammer doesnt need to be ground down flush with the frame. rounding of the tapered end is perfectly sufficient. to prevent the hammer from snagging) i think its a matter of whether you know what you are doing. its as simple as taking the gun apart. removing the hammer. then grinding it down. the same method that any hammerless gun manufacturer is going to use. and ive done it before.

im not so sure im exactly a "wannabee kitchen table "gunsmiths" lol

despite my knowledge. ive been shooting long enough that i have no need to sight. its 100% intuitive. 10-15 years ago my trigger seemed heavy. but that isnt the case any longer. its like ridding a bike. once youve got it. there isnt to much thought involved beyond that point.

i shoot from the hip. and im going to hit anything within reasonable range,,period. i sincerely believe i shoot with more accuracy than the vast majority of police officers lol

i may look young, but im not as young as i look LOL ...in 5,certainly 10 years i am an old man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4r49tzn88

Rick
03-28-2016, 05:26 PM
Did I mention my head hurts?

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 05:41 PM
Did I mention my head hurts?

Listen to this beat lol
https://youtu.be/BVXTmav24Wk

1stimestar
03-28-2016, 06:23 PM
I only hear the faint beat of a clock ticking in the distant background.

kyratshooter
03-28-2016, 06:36 PM
You hear that all the way to Alaska?

You are really getting good at this retinue.

Rick your head hurts from all the facepalm stuff. The motion has become automatic and you are moving the palm to the face too rapidly. It's jarring your brain cell.

Slow down and take two Tylenol, it will be over soon.

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 06:50 PM
So, InsolentWretch......Just how many bear encounters have you had (you still haven't told us where you live)? How many bears have sucker punched or peed on? Been robbed a lot on the trail?


when i lived in colorado you would see bears crossing the street pretty often. i spent half my life living in lakewood. went camping every weekend with my father(a professor/teacher). camping,free climbing,caving etc. constantly. im not sure how many bears ive seen. as soon as they realize your in the area. they take off usually. but not if there is more than one together. ive probably seen 5-6 bears. while camping. had them snoop around the camp site at night. on one occasion i did get pretty close to a large bear. that was completely aware of our presence. just minded its own business. ive also seen, while hiking after taking a mother and her cubs by surprise. the mother run leaving the cubs behind. all the other bears ive ever seen (all black bears) other than on one occasion that i can think of. simply went the opposite direction.

a bear doesnt know how fragile a human being is. when a bear attacks. in my opinion. its just 'playing' with you,testing you, or demonstrating dominance. killing you, probably doesnt even cross its mind. bears are vicious, when they are showing off.
bears are docile like dogs. but, mental disease, getting playful with other bears, ..some bears have big "egos" when they have recently been with a female or fought another bear. some bears which havent had much luck with fish or thatch. may be in a bad state of mind.

you'll be able to tell. if youre not blinded by irrational fear.

a bear doesnt care about you. it wants to avoid situations that seem unusual in its habitat. but bears need to store a lot of fat. their life depends on it. they do what they think they need to do to survive.
a bears mind is filled always with its own survival objectives. digging up roots of sweet thatch. searching for water and fish to survive. because thats what their instinctive compass tells them to do.

if a bear attacks you. it either thinks its necessary. or its horny, and it wants to show some sucker whats up. otherwise, you are just a strange and foreign presence. and it has better things to do. like look for chicks. and food. and fun

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 06:52 PM
I only hear the faint beat of a clock ticking in the distant background.
cant say im to concerned honestly :)

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 07:40 PM
Im pretty buzzed btw ..lol

Bears/animals are emotional creature just like we are. but we have become desensitized to the senses and intuitions that would otherwise allow us to recognize this about animals and the natural world. this is because we are drowning in our own lust for entertainment. and are removed from the real world buy the machine to which we blindly serve as slaves. working our entire lives away(serving the agendas of the filthy rich. without even the time to raise or children. so the tv ends up doing it etc.(and we dont even realize it) marketers using our ego's,hearts and confused minds. and the same of our childrens hearts and minds and spirit. like some science by which they can manipulate our tendencies,temptations,desires, delusions etc. "Majik". and all under the pretense of trying to make life easier. when in reality they are employing systems based on statistics among other things. to achieve a desired result; their "job"/ making money

i used google earth and took an xray of the planet...its got cancer. we're it. what does it matter though? in the advent of our deaths. everything that we have ever known. suddenly never happened anyway right. who cares about our children. who cares about protecting the hearts of humanity.

I die soon, isnt that so sad LOL,, i remember death. i was born from it. and sadly...in an infinite span of time (which really means instantaneous. absent of the mind) the chances of any unique event occurring, by probability. is an impossibility

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 07:56 PM
https://youtu.be/wcaQeHZyHPM

a ten year old child pics up a bible. filled with inspiration. because his heart knows the difference between the ideal,,and actual.(no knowledge required)(blurry) until his father gets smashed one day after a life of never ending hardship. attempts to strangle em to death.

slowly/gradually beginning to realize. nobody gives a damn. and that gods are for the fearful and desperate. and mean nothing. that their is only one law in the world. survival/no fear/no shame. The law? Is that there is no law (Got balls?). be true to ones own compass

Rick
03-28-2016, 08:01 PM
Rick your head hurts from all the facepalm stuff.

That's it. Over and over and over.

crashdive123
03-28-2016, 08:12 PM
Oh good lord......I guess we'll let the fruitcake toss continue for a bit longer, but not too much longer.

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 08:16 PM
sorry, just rambling. im about drunk now so im outy
https://youtu.be/EFbdYvolxRM

TapTap
03-28-2016, 08:20 PM
My bush dwelling friend told me I should file the site off my .357 so it would hurt less when the bear shoved it up my (you know).

That cracks me up!
:thumbup:

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 08:22 PM
Oh good lord......I guess we'll let the fruitcake toss continue for a bit longer, but not too much longer.

yeah, that sounds about right.... perhaps im a puzzle a little more complex than it at first seems LOL
https://youtu.be/4T3DGS6k-BQ

InsolentWretch
03-28-2016, 08:29 PM
when simple logic invented well over a thousand years ago. becomes an offense? something isnt right..
im guessing that if a=b,and b=c. a probably equals c. what do you think?

crashdive123
03-28-2016, 08:59 PM
I think I've had enough. Go have another drink.

Rick
03-28-2016, 09:04 PM
Children and their nonsense. Actually, he was not a good troll, a good fruitcake or a good PIA. He was just a nuisance. A bit like that bothersome gnat that won't leave you alone.

crashdive123
03-28-2016, 09:06 PM
And an odd man crush on Metallica.

1stimestar
03-28-2016, 09:25 PM
That cracks me up!
:thumbup:

Yea I laughed too. Told him I guess I'd better bring some Va... wait, we probably shouldn't go into that conversation...

hunter63
03-28-2016, 09:51 PM
Like the sloppy guy at the bar....that hangs all over you, "I love ya man...y'know, really, ..Dat's true, y'know......Love ya man.

Say Bye......

WalkingTree
03-29-2016, 12:37 AM
Oh my god. That was like watching a train wreck. Or something. Saw a few opportunities to chime in, but decided to refrain. Ya'll let it have 3 pages? Can't decide if 4 pages would've been more fun or more embarrassing.

I personally feel the metallica. However...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYv_dbLKMmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwn5y3XNDIg

Oh, and, it only takes one bear. One.

hunter63
03-29-2016, 01:12 AM
It's winter, crappy out, so boredom kinda takes over...... like watching a cat play with his food for a while........some mice show some class and originality,...some not so much...

Then again some are as, Rick says just a PITA....

kyratshooter
03-29-2016, 03:06 AM
I seriously, or as serious as I can get at 3am, think we should start a fund raising event to get 1timestar a .44 magnesium bear gun!

Spring is coming and the brownies are going to be out of their dens in a few weeks and she has to make that run to the outhouse with an underpowered revolver.

It would save her the embarrassment of going to urgent care for the removal of the .357.

She would probably miss work and it would be a bad example for her children.

Plus with the kind of work she does she could leave the box of shells on the dashboard of her SUV in the parking lot and get some serious rep!

1stimestar
03-29-2016, 04:01 AM
Ohhh now I kind of like that idea, especially the ammo in the windshield. Just got the first Facebook report, someone in the neighborhood saw the first skinny bear. They're waking up a bit early but not surprising with how early it got warm.

And actually, you know my cabin is FANCY! I don't have to go off the deck to get to the outhouse lol.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/424193_10152014346140697_766153469_n.jpg?oh=e5548e de3a4603353af6fbfa1dd59136&oe=57982E6D

pete lynch
03-29-2016, 04:48 AM
That was quick! I was winding the old clock and when I come back, BAM!! it's gone. Another fruitcake in the dust.
What was up with all the YT videos? I didnt bother to click on them.

crashdive123
03-29-2016, 05:50 AM
What was up with all the YT videos? I didnt bother to click on them.

Metallica fan or wannabe.

hunter63
03-29-2016, 11:14 AM
I always kinda liked Metallica....
But it's been awhile since I ran into some one that needs to have a "Metallica sound track" while posting?

Box of .44 mags on the dash....Good,..... Missing 8 rounds....even better....make everyone think..."Wonder what she used those 2 rounds on......?"

kyratshooter
03-29-2016, 11:25 AM
The head scarf also got to me along with the Metalica thing. The combination of the two sort of labels one as a west coast wannabe.

Heading off to the wilderness in his low rider to escape life in the 'hood. Sitting around the campfire smoking dope,throwing gang signs, and calling everyone "bro".

Then there was that thing about the .38spl, the nearly most powerful handgun in the world that will blow your head clean off.

Oh! Sorry! We're still on the 38spl thread.

Seems like a distant memory.

Rick
03-29-2016, 11:41 AM
I know for a fact that his 38spl isn't that good. It didn't have silenced luminous sites. Had he mentioned that I would have been, like, well, yeah. Sure. I wonder if he is going to grind the hammer down with sandpaper.

Wildthang
03-29-2016, 12:06 PM
That was like watching a mouse nosing around a baited and loaded mouse trap. Just waiting for the SNAP!!!!!

kyratshooter
03-29-2016, 12:54 PM
Yea, if you are not paying attention you won't see it when it happens.

This one was pretty easy what with the sloppy drunk posting and all that. You could see him going downhill as the evening progressed.

crashdive123
03-29-2016, 01:25 PM
I didn't want to burst his bubble on the virtues of the 38, what with my wife shooting one and all........good chick gun.

Krat - some of his IP's were randomly generated, but he was posting from Ohio. Maybe you and Nate have met him.

hunter63
03-29-2016, 01:30 PM
OOOOOOH .38....Good Chick gun.....You gonna pay, you gona pay....OOOOOOOH
That one was probably his Mom's....

Wildthang
03-29-2016, 02:52 PM
I didn't want to burst his bubble on the virtues of the 38, what with my wife shooting one and all........good chick gun.

Krat - some of his IP's were randomly generated, but he was posting from Ohio. Maybe you and Nate have met him.

I remember when almost every Police Officer in this country used a .38! It's a decent close range weapon in my opinion but better choices now! Back then they had to know how to hit them within 6 shots versus 16!

kyratshooter
03-29-2016, 05:12 PM
The .38 was king of the handguns for nearly a century. It did its job very well. Still does, although outsold by the .380 and 9mm in our era. Fact is, anything the 9mm can do the .38spl can do, just 6 times instead of 15-17.

It is the essence of a weapon where "shot placement" is critical. Unlike the .22, it has plenty of power, if you place the shots in the head or kill zone of the target. But it is not a cartridge that is going to drop a 300 pound drunk with one shot to the big toe, although that might make him hop around a bit.

I love my 38spls as general purpose utility and training guns. Got a bunch of them floating around here. One in each vehicle, several cached all over KY and TN.

Just messing around down at the lake or walking the fields I usually have a .38 as backup for whatever long gun I am carrying.

But sometimes there's a .45, or a 9mm, or whatever was beside the keys as I walked out.

The DILs love them for their simplicity and light recoil.

Loneviking
04-04-2016, 04:24 AM
Now why would anyone want to shoot a fuzzy little bear with a .38? Trust me,paint balls are more fun!

.38 spcl hotloads out of a .357 can do a lot of damage. I sure wouldn't want a load like that loose in my pocket. :noway:

Wildthang
04-05-2016, 01:02 PM
Now why would anyone want to shoot a fuzzy little bear with a .38? Trust me,paint balls are more fun!

.38 spcl hotloads out of a .357 can do a lot of damage. I sure wouldn't want a load like that loose in my pocket. :noway:

All in shot placement:smartass:

kyratshooter
04-05-2016, 01:06 PM
I'm trying to figure out how they are going to damage your pocket?

Rick
04-05-2016, 01:10 PM
Well, 38 is a lot. Probably the weight.

hunter63
04-05-2016, 01:35 PM
Didn't yo mama tell you "Don't play with you self"?
No reason for your hands in your pockets.......unless there is a reason?

Wildthang
04-05-2016, 01:42 PM
Could he be referring to pocket pool:smartass:

Loneviking
04-06-2016, 01:58 AM
Well, 38 is a lot. Probably the weight.

Yep, ripped pocket and down your leg. Lets hope you don't try to catch it! There's no holster and it's not tough to trip that trigger.

Loneviking
04-06-2016, 02:01 AM
Didn't yo mama tell you "Don't play with you self"?
No reason for your hands in your pockets.......unless there is a reason?

Take a pair of fairly tight jeans, stick an unloaded .38 snub in the front pocket and try to sit down. I'll bet you'll have to put your hand in your pocket to move that gun where you can sit.

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