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hayshaker
02-28-2016, 12:08 PM
so just who does have a right to survive post shtf?

tundrabadger
02-28-2016, 12:12 PM
Either everybody or nobody.

Seniorman
02-28-2016, 02:08 PM
so just who does have a right to survive post shtf?

The meanest dog in the fight. :pirate

S.M.

hunter63
02-28-2016, 02:26 PM
What kind of SHTF....?
TEOTWAWKI....Who cares.

BENESSE
02-28-2016, 03:44 PM
Right has nothing to do with it. Obviously, those who are better prepared have a better chance but it's by no means a guarantee.
There's also health, smarts, resilience, adaptability and plain ol' dumb luck.

kyratshooter
02-28-2016, 04:45 PM
Everyone has the "right to survive" in any situation they are placed in. In a hypothetical SHTF fantasy that right is not suspended. It is one of the rights endowed by our Creator and one of the reasons I distrust people that do not believe in a Creator.

It is legally guaranteed by the Constitution under the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Preparation and training to invoke those rights is up to the individual, just as is education, career pursuits, personal finances management.

More importantly, no person has the "right" to decide who does not survive. That is a standard question that is asked on every psych test, cleverly disguised in some way. The person that feels they have that right is dealing with some severe issues and you do not want him in your life raft.

WolfVanZandt
02-28-2016, 04:48 PM
I've never understood rights except as "that which everyone else agrees to let a person have gratis." I don't believe in rights. I do believe in freedoms, and those you have to work for. I suspect that many (most?) people won't survive because they aren't willing to work for it (or they don't know how because they haven't been willing to work for their survival yet), and others won't survive because they make themselves odious to the people around them. The "survivalists" (militia) will bunker in and be taken out by the "bandit lords", the bandits will be taken out by the guerrillas, and the guerrillas will settle down into civilized hunter-gatherer communities that know how to live with each other (the others will disappear.)

So that's my novel......

tundrabadger
02-28-2016, 05:28 PM
I've never understood rights except as "that which everyone else agrees to let a person have gratis." I don't believe in rights. I do believe in freedoms, and those you have to work for. I suspect that many (most?) people won't survive because they aren't willing to work for it (or they don't know how because they haven't been willing to work for their survival yet), and others won't survive because they make themselves odious to the people around them. The "survivalists" (militia) will bunker in and be taken out by the "bandit lords", the bandits will be taken out by the guerrillas, and the guerrillas will settle down into civilized hunter-gatherer communities that know how to live with each other (the others will disappear.)

So that's my novel......


That...sounds pretty readable.

Batch
02-28-2016, 09:40 PM
If your mom squatted in the middle of the Serengeti, the everglades or the Sahara gave birth to you and walked away. What are your rights to survival?

If you are driving down I-95 and the trucker in the next lane has a heart attack or just falls a sleep and cuts over and slams your car into a retaining wall. What are your rights to survival.

Does the lion, crocodile or malaria carrying mosquito have the right to decide who lives and who dies.

You have no right to life. You stack the deck and try to stay in the game and keep yours alive.

No one technically has the right to take your life. But, by accident or malice, many end up dead anyway. Right or not.

Goose
02-28-2016, 10:07 PM
The ones who survive.

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Rick
02-28-2016, 10:19 PM
A better question might be who's lucky enough to survive. But if "rights" have anything to do with it I'm callin' dibs right now. (get it? rights? right now?)

Hey, maybe instead of who's right, maybe it's just who's left.

natertot
02-28-2016, 10:25 PM
Everyone has the "right to survive" in any situation they are placed in. In a hypothetical SHTF fantasy that right is not suspended. It is one of the rights endowed by our Creator and one of the reasons I distrust people that do not believe in a Creator.

It is legally guaranteed by the Constitution under the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Preparation and training to invoke those rights is up to the individual, just as is education, career pursuits, personal finances management.

More importantly, no person has the "right" to decide who does not survive. That is a standard question that is asked on every psych test, cleverly disguised in some way. The person that feels they have that right is dealing with some severe issues and you do not want him in your life raft.

So where does Roe v Wade fit in?

Rick
02-28-2016, 10:29 PM
Is that fight on pay per view?

natertot
02-28-2016, 10:32 PM
Is that fight on pay per view?

The fight isn't bad. The outcome however is pretty messy.

druid
02-29-2016, 12:22 AM
So where does Roe v Wade fit in?

No idea but if the government/SCOTUS isn't willing to concede that "life begins" at conception....then why is it that if you are drunk and run down a pregnant woman and kill them both, are you charged with a "double homicide?"

Can't have it both ways ya know...

...and I DO believe the woman has the "Right to choose"........she has the Right to choose proactive/precautionary birth control or keep yer effin knees together....

As to the OP.....

No one has the "Right" to survive...you either will or won't.

natertot
02-29-2016, 01:48 AM
I agree druid. My intent was not to side track the thread, but to make the point that the question on who has the "right" to survive is not just a "SHTF" situation. As KyRat pointed out, it is a given right by our creator or if one does not believe in a creator, there is the natural inclination to want to live no matter who or what you are. I was also simultaneously pointing out that even though our govt is restrained from attacking our rights, the govt does find ways to attack them regardless. In our country, Indian movement, slavery and abortion are the greatest humanitarian rights violations. Other countries do it to though. Germany with the Jews did it. Al Quida/ISIS/Islam/Muslim countries do it against Christians. The Conquistadors did it to native Central Americans, British against Scotts and Irish. Ever since mankind has figured out how to manipulate and kill, there has always been one group seeking to either eliminate or subdue another group. SHTF has nothing to do with it. All humans have the "right" to live, whether or not they do live is another story. My philosophy is to make as many friends in life as possible, but be wary of everyone.

Winnie
02-29-2016, 04:33 AM
No idea but if the government/SCOTUS isn't willing to concede that "life begins" at conception....then why is it that if you are drunk and run down a pregnant woman and kill them both, are you charged with a "double homicide?"

Can't have it both ways ya know...

...and I DO believe the woman has the "Right to choose"........she has the Right to choose proactive/precautionary birth control or keep yer effin knees together....

As to the OP.....

No one has the "Right" to survive...you either will or won't.

So the man has absolutely no responsibility to make sure his little swimmers don't reach their target then eh? Wow that's one arrogant, selfish statement right there.

To the OP No-one has the right to survive, but I think we can all hope to.

natertot
02-29-2016, 06:05 AM
So the man has absolutely no responsibility to make sure his little swimmers don't reach their target then eh? Wow that's one arrogant, selfish statement right there.

To the OP No-one has the right to survive, but I think we can all hope to.

I think there is a misunderstanding of differences amongst our countries Winnie. In the US, men only have responsibilities in these matters to the degree which women allow. Not saying I agree with it, just how it is. I believe it should be both persons equal responsibility since both people were equal in the participation. If a woman gets pregnant, all choices are hers and the man has no say but has to comply with all her demands. Kinda like marriage! (Runs and hides from the mrs....)

druid
02-29-2016, 07:29 AM
I think there is a misunderstanding of differences amongst our countries Winnie. In the US, men only have responsibilities in these matters to the degree which women allow. Not saying I agree with it, just how it is. I believe it should be both persons equal responsibility since both people were equal in the participation. If a woman gets pregnant, all choices are hers and the man has no say but has to comply with all her demands. Kinda like marriage! (Runs and hides from the mrs....)

nate pretty much summed it up but I can be a bit more crass about it......ahem......


she's not getting pregnant at all if she does what I say - proactive birth control or keep her knees together...and all of that's her choice. SHE has to 'let' him copulate with her - also her choice - because otherwise it's called rape.

Rick
02-29-2016, 07:55 AM
Okay...we got way off course here. Let's move away from Roe Vs. Wade and all that shall we?

crashdive123
02-29-2016, 07:57 AM
While it may be of interest, let's try to keep the thread on a track that addresses the OP. I'm pretty sure that everybody knows what his intent was.

natertot
02-29-2016, 11:25 AM
My fault, guys. I didn't mean to get the thread of on this tangent. I was simply trying to illustrate that sometimes rights exist that govt's do no recognize. It seemed fitting for the OP and the question of who has the right to live.

In summary, everyone has a right to live but that does not mean everyone will recognize or respect that right in regards to others.

Please except my apologies for the unnecessary side track.

Winnie
02-29-2016, 12:09 PM
Well, I'll apologise for going off topic too.

As to the rest of it, I can't believe I just read what I did. I'm pretty sure the rules would change if you guys got pregnant. Messed up doesn't come close.

Rick
02-29-2016, 12:11 PM
Okay, okay. Point taken.

Ted
02-29-2016, 03:11 PM
Well in MHO...it is written "the meek shall inherit the Earth." This sort of reference has been written into many religions since the beginning of civilization. Make note that I said civilization and not time!

That being said I really don't think the meek are going to miss there precious cell phones, computers, cars, or TV's. They will be off enjoying nature while everyone else is fighting and die'n for what's left in the civilized areas. Sounds fun!!!

I digress, final answer, "the meek"

hunter63
02-29-2016, 03:38 PM
I sure in everyone mind....they always include them selves in the "will survive" group.......
Star of the show in their minds scenario, as it were.

That is a basic way our mind is wired, or we wouldn't do anything.

It come to mind the story of a 100 airmen in the briefing room.....
The commander is up in from..... at telling everyone how dangerous the mission will be, and that only 1 man is likely to return...

Every man in the room is looking around and saying "You poor bassturds".

The rest is to be written.

crashdive123
02-29-2016, 06:29 PM
Well, I'll apologise for going off topic too.

As to the rest of it, I can't believe I just read what I did. I'm pretty sure the rules would change if you guys got pregnant. Messed up doesn't come close.

No, actually my opinion would not change. Of course, I haven't expressed what that opinion is, and won't. Just didn't want to move the thread the the political section.

WolfVanZandt
02-29-2016, 07:27 PM
I think "luck" plays a part, but not as much as a lot of people think. In the first place, groups will survive. Second, groups with enough people who are aware of their surroundings to be able to maintain. Third, the top combatants ( and there will certainly be combat) will be the guerrillas. Hopefully there will be enough of these groups that want to take people along that want to build a better society, but that raises more philosophical questions as to what makes up one of those kinds of societies. There are a lot of finer points. Ashby's Law requires maximum constructive diversity. I believe that the Bible was right that the meek have a premium position, but the meaning of "meek" has changed somewhat since then. It used to be simply a concern for others that might or might not grade into a willingness to sacrifice self for others well-being. My own personal position is that Creator and nature needs to be on your side. That requires a modicum of respect for both and for the people (broadly speaking) around you.

BENESSE
02-29-2016, 07:29 PM
The meek may inherit the earth but it's up for interpretation whether it'll be in this life or the next. :sneaky2:

Mischief
02-29-2016, 09:06 PM
The Road Runner will survive as to the rest of us practice bending over so you may kiss your butt good by.

NightSG
02-29-2016, 11:21 PM
I think "luck" plays a part, but not as much as a lot of people think. In the first place, groups will survive. Second, groups with enough people who are aware of their surroundings to be able to maintain. Third, the top combatants ( and there will certainly be combat) will be the guerrillas.

Guerrillas are successful in large part because their methods allow them to choose the time and place of the battle, including altering plans at the last minute based on reconnaissance, or simply avoiding a battle altogether. To an extent, this can also be practiced by small bug-in groups if their location is well enough camouflaged and/or inaccessible enough, or exceptionally defensible through other means. With good observation points and camouflage, you can choose whether to engage searchers before they're aware of your encampment, or simply wait and hope they don't see you at all. The disadvantage here is that you have to account for a stationary base of operations; gunshots, smoke or a pile of bodies will be a pretty effective beacon to other potential attackers, and you can't just fade into to undergrowth and leave as easily as a guerrilla band that fights well away from their base.

druid
03-01-2016, 04:18 AM
I'm not meek and I'll inherit nothing...but I'll be keeping what I have.

If in a shtf scenario, I'm eventually going to have to take what I need but that won't be for quite a long while. I have more than enough to survive that scenario for a year [for a family of 5] - and provided there's no nuke or biologic involved, no one's getting in here to take what I have....not without getting ventilated by something politically incorrect :rambo:

now if the gov wants to send in a Panzer or drone strike, that's another matter. I'm toast....but against pedestrian problems? I have that covered.

hunter63
03-01-2016, 12:00 PM
Hope all that stuff doesn't catch fire.......?

LowKey
03-01-2016, 12:56 PM
So you are eventually going to TAKE what you need? From whom?
You are an Oathkeeper?

The meek will inherit the Earth. But usually only a 4' x 8' piece of it.

BENESSE
03-01-2016, 03:03 PM
If in a shtf scenario, I'm eventually going to have to take what I need but that won't be for quite a long while.

When you do, rest assured I'll be waiting. :censored:

Wildthang
03-01-2016, 03:16 PM
God, nature, geography, circumstances, and mankind itself will decide who perishes or survives! Oh and a few people that own really well built, well supplied bunkers:smartass:

oldsoldier
03-01-2016, 04:19 PM
I think the question of who has the "right" to survive post SHTF is kinda open. Depends really IMO on what your interpretation of "right" includes. If you've prepared as best you can for it then you have the right to try. BUT that right doesn't exclude you from the "stupidity clause" meaning you don't have the right to expect to live in subzero temperatures wearing a Tshirt, shorts and flip flops. You don't have the right to expect to survive an encounter with a grizzly armed only with a swiss army knife. Or trying to cross class 5 rapids on a log. You get the point. Rights only go so far. But if as I said you've prepared for something happening, have shelter, a way to get more food, water, forage, raise a garden and such the you have as much "right" to TRY as anyone else that has done the same.

HOWEVER when it come to the point of "taking" what you need if that means stealing from others, well then the only rights you have again IMO is to a nice 4X8X6 chunk of real estate if the person you try to take from feels generous enough to share.

oldsoldier
03-01-2016, 04:23 PM
I'm not meek and I'll inherit nothing...but I'll be keeping what I have.

If in a shtf scenario, I'm eventually going to have to take what I need but that won't be for quite a long while. I have more than enough to survive that scenario for a year [for a family of 5] - and provided there's no nuke or biologic involved, no one's getting in here to take what I have....not without getting ventilated by something politically incorrect :rambo:

now if the gov wants to send in a Panzer or drone strike, that's another matter. I'm toast....but against pedestrian problems? I have that covered.

druid......you realize that in all likleyhood you are going to meet heavy resiatance. People aren't going to in most cases roll over and give up easily. On their home ground they'll have the advantage. Plus no matter how bad you are it's a good bet someone badder is out there. Or at least has better numbers.

WolfVanZandt
03-01-2016, 04:32 PM
I've heard academics recently saying that, if you really want to be healthy, keep modern healthcare and revert to a hunter-gatherer society. Hobbes was dead wrong about "primitive" man's life being brutish, nasty, and full of fear. He probably would have known better if he had bothered to check it out instead of relying the tells of merchants and mariners (of course, /they/ didn't have a reputation for tall tales). Given a general culling of the population, I would imagine a mobile base would be better all the way around. When you have a stable base, you suddenly have mounting hygiene problems (ever lived with a group of men or, heaven forbid, teenagers?) and it's really easy to lob explosives into the place.

Frankly, I don't expect that shtf is going to be anything like a big badda boom. It's going to be, well, like Detroit - a moderately slow (not nearly as slow as John Michael Greer seems to think but not a "blaze of glory" either) decline into ambiguity. It might start with the fact that the majority of people can't afford to pay their utilities, so they start bombing electric company offices and government buildings - or maybe after the next election. Just a little mass, global mania. If you can stay out of the way of flying bodies long enough for the first skirmish to die down and stake out a nice territory somewhere. Then just watch out for Mel Gibson or Beauford Pusser types, and hope that the satellites are all out of order (in fact, that just might be the first order of business - disable Google Earth.)

crashdive123
03-01-2016, 06:24 PM
Spud? Is that you?

Rick
03-01-2016, 09:02 PM
I need help expanding the kill zone. Any volunteers?

tundrabadger
03-01-2016, 10:21 PM
I need help expanding the kill zone. Any volunteers?


Sure, I'm not doing anything after work this week anyhow.

WolfVanZandt
03-02-2016, 01:09 AM
Woof! Indiana to Ontario.....I'm safe.

druid
03-02-2016, 02:05 AM
Hope all that stuff doesn't catch fire.......?

The area is fireproof and there are 2 large halon extinguishers in the room for "just in case"


So you are eventually going to TAKE what you need? From whom?
You are an Oathkeeper?

The meek will inherit the Earth. But usually only a 4' x 8' piece of it.


When you do, rest assured I'll be waiting. :censored:

I never said where I would get anything from - perhaps I should have made myself more clear on the matter, my apologies....

I have zero - zero - hostile intentions towards my fellow Countrymen. None. I will help my fellow compatriots in any way possible, to include taking them in, helping them medically or defending them when they can't defend themselves. One caveat is that my family will always come first. I will however, raid government supply lines if [and only if] necessary. I have and can in the future, survive in a wilderness scenario when necessary and I can take [i]from nature what I might need. I can show the People closest to me how to survive there too.

Sorry about the confusion and ruffled neck hairs - that was not my intention and I should have been more clear.


druid......you realize that in all likleyhood you are going to meet heavy resiatance. People aren't going to in most cases roll over and give up easily. On their home ground they'll have the advantage. Plus no matter how bad you are it's a good bet someone badder is out there. Or at least has better numbers.

No no I completely understand that. I apologized for not being more clear just above your quote.

And you are absolutely correct - there is always someone bigger, smarter, faster and stronger than we [I? You? He? She? They? It? You?].....which is why I continue to stockpile my necessities and rotate out the old. My 'offense' is actually a strong defense but ultimately even that will break down or fail. Which is why I have 2 alternate fall-back plans and I'm working on a third.

Honestly, there's no 'foolproof' plan. Even for the hundreds of billions of dollars the government has spent on the same types of 'preparations' that we have, even they will run out of options at some point.

WolfVanZandt
03-02-2016, 02:27 AM
Well, there is no foolproof plan, but there are plans that have a large probability of success. That's why I like statistics. There are only a couple of things that come with a 100% or 0% tag; most things are somewhere between. I like the large numbers for success.

Grizz123
03-02-2016, 11:09 AM
Do lawyers and politicians have the right to survive? I doubt either would be around to make the argument after SHTF because most will become targets of opportunity, LOL

Ted
03-02-2016, 12:18 PM
Do lawyers and politicians have the right to survive? I doubt either would be around to make the argument after SHTF because most will become targets of opportunity, LOL

Well Grizz I honestly think those will be the ones who survive and get real busy kick'n a$$ and take'n names. Or another Government body will pick up the "DUTY" to control the masses no matter how thin the herd gets.


As to the OP I stand on the meek having the "right" . When I speak of the meek I mean the indigenous peoples of the world who still live in harmony with nature. Yes there are a few. Now will they, probably not! (remembering the wondrous people the roamed the Americas) But I do feel they have the "right" because there not at all responsible for the mess the masses in the civilized areas have created.

Ted
03-02-2016, 01:24 PM
Everyone has the "right to survive" in any situation they are placed in. In a hypothetical SHTF fantasy that right is not suspended. It is one of the rights endowed by our Creator and one of the reasons I distrust people that do not believe in a Creator.

It is legally guaranteed by the Constitution under the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Preparation and training to invoke those rights is up to the individual, just as is education, career pursuits, personal finances management.

More importantly, no person has the "right" to decide who does not survive. That is a standard question that is asked on every psych test, cleverly disguised in some way. The person that feels they have that right is dealing with some severe issues and you do not want him in your life raft.

Really, try being a real individual striving to live in harmony with nature with no ties what so ever to paying the taxes that support everything that is stopping you. Better yet tell that to ancestors of Sitting Bull, Red Cloud, ect. Wait, you probably know them personally and they love the current state of affairs. Did you really ever think about the history you've taught. You know the one were the winners write the history, and the losers had no rights what so ever!

WolfVanZandt
03-02-2016, 05:11 PM
Euuuuh......I don't think it has anything at all to do with profession or racial background - the idea of the "noble savage" is European. They were delusional. The lack of food caused by Europeans decimating game animals in North America brought out the other side of Native Americans that most humans have more opportunity to exhibit by virtue of being in a particular society. Native Americans were in harmony with nature because they had the opportunity to be so. And you hit the nail on the head, Ted. The system we live in is unbalanced.

But individuals are individuals. There are plenty of people of European extraction that understands that something is terribly wrong and will do what they can to balance things. Everybody in Alabama's a lawyer (litigation state), yet several of the Boy Scout leaders in the Crane District are real lawyers, so they have the credentials.

There are people who should survive - not because of any abstract "rights" they might have, but because they want to make things work and if they have half a chance, they will pull together a better world. But they won't survive unless the people who have the skills and strength help them get on with it.

Three men of the Powell expedition of the Grand Canyon didn't think they would survive the last leg of the journey, so they hiked out. They were the only ones that died. A Native American tribe mistook them for some Whites that had recently raped one of a neighboring tribe's women and killed them. That despite the fact that the Powell expedition had good relations with all the tribes in the area. I could spend quite a lot of time on the atrocities committed by Native American against other Native Americans.

When shtf happens, we'd better stop looking at irrelevant factors and decide who, individually, can be trusted, who will try to build a better world, and work toward that goal.

My fear is that we (Europeans, Native Americans, Christians, Buddhists, Lawyers, Animal Management Officers) are so far gone, we don't know what to look for. We're so far removed from what works, we wouldn't recognize it.

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