Survival School

[Blackhills]

Im looking into starting a survival school for the area around me. What kind of certifications, and licensing would I have to get?

[hunter63]

Im looking into starting a survival school for the area around me. What kind of certifications, and licensing would I have to get?

I don't know of any that you would need.....as there doesn't seem to be any official organization that could certify anyone.

Most any school you sign up for offer their cert's, but doesn't mean much unless they are big name and sale able....Google has a lot of them.
Example:
http://www.survivalschool.us/s-3-certifications/intensive-survival-instructor-certification/

Problem is you have to take their course and pay them the fee......

You will need for sure,
Business Plan...if you are charging money for it.....
Tax information.
Personnel liability insurance.
Location....Not real sure most public land will allow you on the land for..." surviving".....tree cutting, fires, camping, killing things in/out of season..... etc.
Certifications for First Aid and CPR minimum helpful.

Good luck......

FYI, Hobbies that you try to make money from... turn onto a Job.

[Phaedrus]

Maybe a sales tax license or something. Not a lot of hoops to jump through in SD. The one minor issue I can see is that fires are banned in virtually every square inch of The Hills except in limited designated camp sites with fire rings. At least last time I checked.

[Rick]

We've had similar questions. Here's one from a guy that made it work. See posts 2 and 4.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?23949-Survival-School&highlight=survival+school

[Blackhills]

Thank you guys. Also yes fires are banned when it is too dry which it is, but I have private land that I am able to do this all on. We can light fires and kill animals. Enough to get people basics and maybe a little more advanced lessons so if they get stuck or stranded they will be able to not die.

[hunter63]

We've had similar questions. Here's one from a guy that made it work. See posts 2 and 4.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?23949-Survival-School&highlight=survival+school

I can recall that exchange.....but couldn't find it....Thanks for the research.
Those tips should be a sticky.

BTW is there such a thing as a National certification process?.......Or can you just make one up?

[kyratshooter]

You make it up as you go along. You can print a nice looking certification diploma off on your computer printer if you like. Nothing illegal about it, but nothing ethical about it either.

The only teacher I have ever been in contact with that I would consider "certified" was Ron Hood. He was a Special Forces Viet Namn vet as well as holding a Phd in recreational education, holding a Professors position with the University of California as an outdoor recreational and survival skills instructor. He was a civilian adviser to the Army and advisor on many of the early cable TV survival offerings. He and his wife won awards for their videos.

The rest of the instructors just claim they are educated by experience, charge what the market will bare and have no real curriculum outside what is offered to every user of the famous You-tube.

I do not place my life in the hands of anyone that does not have real training, a real track record, and a list of references a mile long. It is way too easy to wind up deep in the woods with your welfare entrusted to some fraud who has restraining orders and felony warrants out on him and is only "teaching survival" because they can not hold a real job while awaiting the Great Spirit to send a wolf spirit to lead them to the promised land.

Chances are you will wind up with a bush hippy, wishing to live in the woods, or a military type, wanting to push through and complete the mission even if it kills everyone in sight.

Like you Hunter, I prefer not to even go hunting, fishing or camping with people I do not know, much less wave goodbye and walk into the bush with someone I just met.

Not all of them are like that, but it only takes one!

[jdbushcraft]

I have private land that I am able to do this all on. We can light fires and kill animals.

The animal still needs to be in season and everyone needs to have valid hunting/trapping licenses. Private land doesn't change any of that.

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[hunter63]

The animal still needs to be in season and everyone needs to have valid hunting/trapping licenses. Private land doesn't change any of that.

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True that....little detail missed by survivors....but if caught, revoked license, and not allow to hunt/fish for a while....as well as weapons and vehicles confiscated .......BUT
Good news,.... you lived.

[Phaedrus]

I never met Ron Hood but I'm still saddened by his passing. I've seen some of his videos and he really had a lot of wisdom. Great sense of humor, too. At any rate the Black Hills is a beautiful area and would be a good place for a survival school. Originally I'm from West River, too, so if you ever get your school off the ground I may check it out.

[jdbushcraft]

True that....little detail missed by survivors....but if caught, revoked license, and not allow to hunt/fish for a while....as well as weapons and vehicles confiscated .......BUT
Good news,.... you lived.

Except we aren't talking about survivors or those surviving. We are talking about someone teaching a class. Those are pretty high prices for, good news...I got a certificate..

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[Seniorman]

Kyratshooter - " ... The only teacher I have ever been in contact with that I would consider "certified" was Ron Hood. He was a Special Forces Viet Namn vet as well as holding a Phd in recreational education, holding a Professors position with the University of California as an outdoor recreational and survival skills instructor. He was a civilian adviser to the Army and advisor on many of the early cable TV survival offerings. He and his wife won awards for their videos. ..."

A slight correction. I was acquainted with Ron Hood, from when we both lived in Los Angeles, and here in Idaho. Ron was not a member of U.S. Special Forces. He was a member of the Army's ASA (Army Security Agency) which in its own right, was a unique outfit. He did serve in Vietnam with the ASA. I believe he was also Airborne qualified.

Ron did not have a PhD. He had a Master's degree and had worked on a PhD, but according to him, he never completed some of the work and his thesis. He said, "One of these days when I have time..........."

In 2006, I attended a Hood's Woods rendezvous at Bull Trout Lake campground in the Boise Nat'l. Forest. Ron, Karen, and their son were there along with about 40 of us attendees. Also there were two active duty USAF Survival School instructors, an active duty Navy SEAL who was then an instructor at the Navy's Winter Survival School, Kodiak, Alaska, and a retired U.S. Army Ranger who had been an instructor at the Army's SERE School. Needless to say, their seminars and instructions made for a very interesting three days.

As for Ron, he indeed, knew his survival stuff. Also, he was a very good, non-condescending instructor who could make various survival skills interesting rather than merely pedantic.

As I said, just a slight correction.

S.M.

[Blackhills]

I'm not looking to get rich off of this. I will not take anyone out the first time i meet them as well for the same reason. After I know you have learned and practiced, and can complete some basic and more advanced survival tactics we will meet a few more times to become more comfortable with each other and get to know one another. Then we would go out for about a week or so the first time whatever they deem "comfortable" atleast long enough to put alot of skills to the tests. I am only going to be there for advice for you should know enough to survive before we go out. I could maybe show you some ways to get things done easier or faster with less work. Animals like squirrels, chipmunks, and other small game are varmint and can be killed all year long. Without a licence. We will not need to kill deer or elk unless we were staying out for an extended period of time. All of the advice and knowledge is greatly welcome and I am greatful for it.

[primitiveskills]

Find out if you are in a State that requires you become a Guide. Here in Maine, anyone who earns recompense for sharing in the woods, public or private land, needs to be a registered Maine Guide. All licenses and permits for fires, hunting, fishing, and trapping are a good idea as well. Knowing the laws in your state with regard to spear fishing, taking frogs and snakes, and road kill are important as well. Insurance can be tricky if you use "survival" in your title. Insurance folks get tweaky. We opted for the terms "Primitive Skills", "Bush Craft", and "Nature Awareness" to describe all that we do. An adjuster may want a tour if you have your own land. Be sure to have EVERYTHING to code. We opted to have students bring their own meals because serving food is a HUGE tangle of regulations, inspections, fines, and liabilities. You could have your courses catered, but the market is saturated and pricing is competitive. Best marketing is word of mouth and make sure you get photos and testimonials from each class you run. The inter webs loves content and using social media will help get you students. Also, don't underestimate the effect of joining the rotary club or similar small businesses organization to help get word out. Good Luck and I hope this helps.

[hunter63]

LOL, LOL, LOL

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You could have your courses catered, but the market is saturated and pricing is competitive
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Sorry man, but that just made be spew ice water everywhere.......

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[NightSG]

Chances are you will wind up with a bush hippy, wishing to live in the woods, or a military type, wanting to push through and complete the mission even if it kills everyone in sight.

But if you get one of each, and follow them around with a camera...

[finallyME]

You don't need any certification. The best you can do is take classes from all the known ones and show that as a passing grade certification.

[primitiveskills]

Exactly! Most folks don't make it passed the ten year mark because they can't adapt to either long term woods skills development or the modern business world.

[hunter63]

Exactly! Most folks don't make it passed the ten year mark because they can't adapt to either long term woods skills development or the modern business world.

Or they don't want to.......of if they are, they won't tell you, because every wantabe news out let will be hounding you.

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