We don't need no stinking building codes.....

[hunter63]

Many years ago....I ran into a "Interesting guy"......That lived "off grid: in a blue bus.
With a wood stove (see smoke coming out window) with a dog, a goat and a donkey (see donkey cart).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF0099.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF0099.jpg.html)

Many stories about how and why he was there were repeated...but mosty was he was just "there".
2007 and again in 2008 the river flooded and flooded the flood plain so he got flooded out.

Built a "yurt" an lived there for a couple of years......
Heads up on the for sale sign..." I read it as "BOL...needs some TLC"

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF0098.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF0098.jpg.html)

Having heard the story from a few local friends...and failing to "sell it" the 16 ft Shasta" trailer we used for the "Place for 15 years.....I gave it to the guy....and delivered it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF0100.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF0100.jpg.html)

And as was advertised ....land was sold and "the guy" was evicted..........turns out he was "squatting" on the land.


So land was sold....and another guy moved in and built a 'cabin"........

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF1594_zpsj0awocpa.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF1594_zpsj0awocpa.jpg.html)

Note ....Friend of mine's boy /wife owned the land next door...built a nice house...so maybe the result of all this came to a head.

Went by today..."cabin has been abandoned all summer....was "GONE"....and the local story is....Guy moved to Alaska...
Bhohahaha...maybe took his Big azz knife.........LOL

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF1662_zpsqaq7qki1.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF1662_zpsqaq7qki1.jpg.html)

Even the hole in the hill is gone....
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF1665_zpsrkd4n7tn.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/new%20album/DSCF1665_zpsrkd4n7tn.jpg.html)

Story at the saloon is that cabin didn't get a building permit......
BUT all the years.....Bus and yurt we kinda ....passed by?....

Hang around long enough ....gets crazy......

[pete lynch]

Great story, Hunter. Had to give you some Rep for that. :)

[Fixit]

Now what I like about where I live is you really don't need a building permit . You do need a septic perk test and electrical inspect if you hook to the grid , but that is it.

[hunter63]

This area has state and local codes...and there is sometimes a difference between farmer way, and city way....Helps to know that.
There are quite a few country places, cabins, cottages, trailers etc....and most are close to code.

Codes are there to keep you from getting killed or screwed over by contractors.....But there are many overlooked things if you look close.

I'm gonna guess the guy the built the cabin(?) was the finial straw next my friends nice house.

The whole acreage is back to fields and meadow.....and the land back up for sale.

[finallyME]

My story isn't as good as that, but does involve building codes. I spent the last few months putting on a new roof. I decided to take a different path and put on a metal roof. Before I started, all my neighbors warned me that I better get it approved with the city. So, I did the responsible thing and called them up. They said I needed a permit, so I went down to the city offices and paid the $50. They said I didn't need an initial inspection, just one when I was done. Because I don't work in the building industry, I didn't really know what to expect, so I did the best job I could of following manufacturers instructions. I was worried the whole time that they would find some dumb little non-consequential thing to ding me on. It took a little longer than expected, but I finally reached the point that I was satisfied with it. I called the city back and scheduled an inspection. The next morning, the guy comes out and looks at it from the street. We talk for a few minutes. He asks if I followed the manufacturers instructions. Then he says "looks good, have a nice day" and leaves.
At least I don't have to worry about it anymore.

[hunter63]

It will vary for job to job I guess......

I built my garage in the city.....gotten a permit, and when completed...inspector, did a walk around, counted studs(and spacing), gave me the pass.....and same thing ..."Have a nice day"

MIL (widow) wanted a deck on her house....and as I was off work kinda go elected to build it.
She was so worried about a permit...(because of another lady friend, I guess) I when and got one.

She had purchased a "deck kit" that sat on blocks....so the initial inspection required that the blaock be replaced with posts in the ground.
So redid that part.....a when completed, called the guy back again, he come out and wanted to know how deep the holes were.
Told him 48" (code)....so then he wanted to dig one up and check???????

I was looking for the hand out for a bribe at this point...and finally said,...."Look, I'm NOT a contractor, but a SIL that was pressed into service....because I had nothing better to do(?)....What do I have to do to get done with this?"

Guy says ...."Yeah, OK, looks good, signed off....and left".

Most people around here wondered why I even bothered with a 10ft square deck......

Now.....At "The Place".....our cabin in the same county as the story and pic's show.....Inspector showed up Easter Sunday morning, with my digger guy/and wife...

He questioned the drive, and ask when it was done.....had been the since 1989...so was "Grandfathered in" (grade was too steep).
Then when I told him the cabin was Amish built, and hauled in....he told me I didn't need a permit as it was a "mobile home".

The only restriction was a disconnect on the power pole like a mobile home park.

I didn't need any permit....not didn't need any inspection on anything did as far a wiring and plumbing.
Had both inspected by the local co-op guy and plumber guy I used to put in elect service and sewer stuff....so it was inspected.

The fact was, as long as it was on blocks and not on a basement/solid foundation.....I didn't NEED an permit.

Like I said...crazy sometimes.

[madmax]

Darn it.. Try again.

[madmax]

Deleted, having trouble with pics.

[hunter63]

I see that, ...try standing on one leg.......?

Anyway, I do get the feeling that the city, state, whoever.....just want to know what you got...and make sure you get taxed ....for the most part.

[kyratshooter]

Yea, you have to stand on the left leg and stick the tip of your tongue out a little on the right side for balance, then hold your eyes a little cross eyed while you press the enter key.

Works most ever time when you do that.

[madmax]

You guys are a lot of help. Doesn't matter. I usually just keep trying stuff until it works.

All I had to say really was my wife and I built a 16 by 16. Biggest you can build without a permit. Can't see it from the road. Can't get there with a street vehicle. Our blood pressure drops immediately upon arrival and we will eventually occupy it at least 6 months a year. No elec. No septic (composting). The power company has a key to the gate because the lines go down so much in the winter. Don't care if they know. We're compliant with the county. Might rig up a small solar power system before some idiot demands us to be "on grid" like some places already. But then we are grandfathered in...right?

[hunter63]

There is a lot to be said about just doing your thing....and if you are under the radar, many places will let it slide unless some one complains.

If you look at the shack in the OP....this was put up by a buyer that defaulted....left...and shack looked like crap....still didn't raise any red flags, until it went back up for sale....then was razed.

So, yeah, just minding your own business is a great policy.

[Spooky Ol' Joe]

Long Story Short:

If YOU and YOUR FAMILY are living in it -- no building codes are needed. Though there are some who will insist otherwise...

IF, however, you should ever decide to sell said abode to someone else, a whole new buncha regulations (including building codes) come into play.

Happy Days,

Spooky Ol' Joe

[hunter63]

Long Story Short:

If YOU and YOUR FAMILY are living in it -- no building codes are needed. Though there are some who will insist otherwise...

IF, however, you should ever decide to sell said abode to someone else, a whole new buncha regulations (including building codes) come into play.

Happy Days,

Spooky Ol' Joe

Just don't poo poo the DNR....Department of National Resources ......or mess with a "wet land".......
You will lose, every time.

[kyratshooter]

Long Story Short:

If YOU and YOUR FAMILY are living in it -- no building codes are needed. Though there are some who will insist otherwise...

IF, however, you should ever decide to sell said abode to someone else, a whole new buncha regulations (including building codes) come into play.

Happy Days,

Spooky Ol' Joe

Obviously you have never arrived home from work and found a "Stop Work Order" nailed to your door with an explanation attached that because you did not obtain a building permit you will be required to tare the structure down or face eviction and $1,000 per day fines until the last scrap of lumber is hauled away.

I have!

In two different counties of two different states. And they do not care if you are living in it or selling it, if you do not have a permit the structure comes down.

[Wise Old Owl]

Ok to the original poster... I get it _ I understand... but wow... I see both sides of this dumb penny.... Lets say I have six acres... (I dont) and I build the ultimate hunter's lodge with decks, bathrooms and bedrooms and salivating... living rooms. None of this is to code... hence wait for it ...safety. Now you may have done a great job... You think your place is the best place of heaven for say peppers... Simply said even if the foundation is sound... its flat out unsaleable or buy able to the majority. Unless you have some serious cash.. you are done. In the county to the south of me they are buying property and tearing down the mistakes and replacing them based on taxes not code. The minimum requirement is 2.5 acres.

if you have been looking to retire and hung onto property too long... I hope you get your ducks in a row,


Just saying... I am in the same skiff of a duck hunting boat and it is not pretty... need to paint more camo.

[hunter63]

......Or in the case of the Amish Built Cabin.....hauled in on a flat bed, put of blocks on sonit tubes 48" deep......
As long as there is a disconnect on the pole for the electric service.....makes it a "mobile home" in our county.

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