Most armed counties

[finallyME]

I found this map that shows the most armed counties in the US. The county I live in is almost at the top of the list.

http://www.wideopenspaces.com/map-of-most-armed-counties/

http://cdn0.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/map.jpg

[crashdive123]

You realize of course that they seem to have lost track of Krat.

[hunter63]

...Maybe that should read......"shows the most armed counties in the US....that we know about".

[kyratshooter]

That map is bogus!

They are not saying if that is true number of guns or a percentage of households with a firearm.

Kentucky has approved more background checks in the past ten years than Louisiana has people, and most definitely more than the populations of Alaska, Wyoming or Montana.

KY this year issued 203,000 CCW permits. That is half the population of Wyoming and 1/4 the population of Alaska and both those states sport a county on the map.

And only a small portion of the gun owners in KY even apply for a CCW. We are an open carry state, they don't have too.

More than 2,000,000 background checks in KY this year, up to September...

And our population is not but 4.5 million!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/01/fbi-kentucky-gun-background-checks-california-texas-combined/

[randyt]

loose lips sinks ships

[Wise Old Owl]

I want to respond to this...in a fair and balanced way... I might upset some liberal morons who may be lurking... I dont give a damn what counties have too many guns. I give a huge value to the liberal morons in DC.... Millions are being denied CWL in DC Lets not miss the opportunity. There is no way anyone can get a CC in DC! We need to focus effort with the NRA

http://www.dcconcealedcarry.com/

Remember don't be a tool

10939

[Batch]

I would think that your house being the best armed house in the county would have a far better bearing on you family's safety.

A face-full of shot has got to be a better deterrent than an explanation of our county being the most armed.

Could be wrong, I don't know. I ain't no statistician.

[Old GI]

What an intel gold mine!

[finallyME]

That map is bogus!


Yeah, I know. 80% of statistics are made up anyways. Most of my guns were acquired in another state, or given from dear old dad. My county doesn't know about those. I know I am not the only one. But, my county was #2, so I had to brag a little, even if it isn't true.

[finallyME]

There is no way anyone can get a CC in DC!


Why do you think ISIS said they are going to attack DC next?

[kyratshooter]

If they succeed do we get a do-over?

TPTB will just claim it is a bunch of radical NRA members, declare martial law and start confiscating guns.

[druid]

That map is bogus!



SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's the statistic they trust and what they want to believe - then let them.....NO need to let them in on the secret...... :whistling:

[1stimestar]

I want to respond to this...in a fair and balanced way... I might upset some liberal morons who may be lurking... I dont give a damn what counties have too many guns. I give a huge value to the liberal morons in DC.... Millions are being denied CWL in DC Lets not miss the opportunity. There is no way anyone can get a CC in DC! We need to focus effort with the NRA

http://www.dcconcealedcarry.com/

Remember don't be a tool

10939

What about "liberal morons" that own lots of guns?

[Rick]

So....are there counties where a lot of one armed people live? Weird statistic.

[finallyME]

So....are there counties where a lot of one armed people live? Weird statistic.

Those are the counties on the map that are white. The red counties on the map have more 2 armed people, so overall have the most arms. I am sure there are some 3 armed people who really bump up the numbers. Of course, if your county has a lot of no armed people, then you will never get high on the list.

[Rick]

you will never get high on the list

Oh, I don't know. You could use the list to roll a blun....never mind.

Yeah, three armed people. Must be he11 trying to find a good shirt.

[hunter63]

Well, You have the Right to Bare Arms...ask Larry the Cable Guy.

[Lamewolf]

loose lips sinks ships

amen amen amen amen !

[Desert Rat!]

what guns?

[Grizz123]

Where do they get these stats if there is no registration to track? Or is the NICS check the tracking system??

[kyratshooter]

You don't really think they erase those background checks and serial numbers do you?

[natertot]

Being that I have done work for FFL's, I can explain the process and tell you what info the NICS gets when they call it in.

1: They get the name, date of birth, and social security number of the person to insure they are checking the right person.
2: They get the answers to all the "Yes" and "No" questions.
3: They are told if the firearm being purchased is a long-arm, a pistol, a receiver for a long-arm, or a receiver for a pistol.

That is all that is given to the government upon a check. If you bought a long-arm then they know you bought a long-arm, but they have no idea if it was a single shot .22, an AR/AK, or anything else in between. Likewise with the pistols and receivers.

The form and all the rest of the information stays with the FFL and there are only two ways that the government gets the info.

1: The first way is if the FFL loses its license, by either forfeiting it or due to the gov't yanking it, then the FFL must turn in all forms and records. (I know one individual who quit being an FFL and he says he has been waiting for 12 years for the gov't to take the forms. He states that he contacted them a half dozen times a year for three years. After that he said screw it, if they want them then they can find them!)

2: A specific firearm(s) were recovered by gov't. They take the serial and contact the manufacturer or importer. The manufacturer/importer will tell them they transferred it to so-so distributer. The gov't will go to the distributer and tell them they transferred it to so-so dealer. The gov't will then go to the dealer and the dealer will then give them all the info on the form. From there, the gov't will contact the individual who will never still actually own the firearm and will not have any info on who they sold it to giving the gov't a dead end.

Until all that, the gov't does not have record of the make, model, and serial numbers of the guns purchased via dealers.

My thought when the knock on the door comes is "I sold them all a few years ago at a gun show when I became a liberal". Then I'll invite them in to inspect a safe with papers, heirlooms, coins, jewelry, and military items. After that, I will ask for their contact info just in case I hear of any guns hanging around.

After they leave, I will then inspect my stuff to make sure it is locked and loaded because war will be imminent if not already occurring.

[LowKey]

When a dealer in MA calls in a purchase, they read the serial number over the phone. May just be MA, which does have registration, although they deny it, as that would be against Federal law...
Here we have to fill out an FA-10 form for every transfer since whenever the assault ban went into effect (94?) If you buy a long arm out of state, you have 10 days to submit an FA-10. Now it's an eFA-10 on a government server. Ya, that hasn't been hacked.

[natertot]

LowKey, that may be a state thing. My write up is based on federal requirements and my state has no laws regarding this stuff so it just reverts to what BATFE wants. There are state/local laws that have other stipulations and they may have more info than my post because of this. But the federal gov't does not get anything more than what I posted.

[kyratshooter]

And the request for background information is supposed to be deleted no more then 24 hours after the request is made, which has some folks all torn up.

http://smartgunlaws.org/maintaining-gun-sales-background-check-records-policy-summary/

That is by legislative action and can not be overturned by Executive order.

So effectively there is no national registration process, and a gun can only be traced from manufacturer to a dealer, who must sort through their files to find who bought which serial number.

[natertot]

And the request for background information is supposed to be deleted no more then 24 hours after the request is made, which has some folks all torn up.

http://smartgunlaws.org/maintaining-gun-sales-background-check-records-policy-summary/

That is by legislative action and can not be overturned by Executive order.

So effectively there is no national registration process, and a gun can only be traced from manufacturer to a dealer, who must sort through their files to find who bought which serial number.

Oh well, I'm kinda glad it makes them mad!!!!

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