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kyratshooter

10-16-2015, 11:49 PM

There is a guy on TV telling me that my reckless use of petroleum products and driving my tiny SUV is going to cause the eventual collapse of the ecosystem, financial system and probably cause the extinction of humanity.

I would be more inclined to listen a bit closer to his words if he were not sitting an a Cadillac stretch limo while he is telling me all this crap!

:eyepoke:

hayshaker

10-16-2015, 11:59 PM

krat sounds like one of those al gore types you know has a 12,000 sq,ft home ac unit in each room
and has a lear jet at the county airport to boot.

ClayPick

10-17-2015, 06:37 AM

The extinction of humanity is most likely a foregone conclusion, fuel isn't going to make much of a difference.

Wise Old Owl

10-17-2015, 09:30 AM

Our teachers in the 70's would forcast we would run out of oil in the year 2000. ---I see a pattern.

Rick

10-17-2015, 09:36 AM

The Old Farmer's Almanac says the dooms day forecast is 79F and partly cloudy with a chance of mass extinction.

Wise Old Owl

10-17-2015, 10:02 AM

hunter63

10-17-2015, 10:02 AM

"The freaking sky is falling......"....again.
Wake up Leroy, he ain't never seen the end of the world..........

Eastree

10-17-2015, 10:51 PM

One thing that caught me as odd is that reports of how much (estimated) of various greenhouse gases -- mainly carbon dioxide -- was ejected in whatever recent volcanic eruption. There was a time that some Mount Something-or-other around the Ring of Fire would be billowing dust and smoke, and the news would report how many millions of metric tons or CO2 and other gases it had released. They would, for the sake of scale, compare it to how many hundreds of years it would take humanity to do the same. It was almost always in terms of centuries.

Yet we're the major problem with CO2 release ... yup.

edit: to stay on topic.

In the 80s, we were told in school that by "the year 2000" the ozone layer would be completely gone, and we would all need sunscreen, dark auto glass, long sleeves and pants, and have to use umbrellas to scurry safely between buildings, or from the door to the car. And it would all be from the depletion of the atmosphere leaving us so exposed to UV radiation that we would get severe sun burns from basically any sun exposure.

There were claims that certain gasses (CFCs and what-not ... and yes, these were all vocabulary words for tests) would be so dense, we would all have difficulty breathing. We were encouraged to throw all aerosols away, and never buy -- ever again.

Phaedrus

10-18-2015, 03:05 AM

Volcanos aren't even close to putting out the amount of CO2 humans do. The figure is around 1%.

Rick

10-18-2015, 06:51 AM

Yeah, but I stopped smoking so that helped.

Eastree

10-18-2015, 04:38 PM

Volcanos aren't even close to putting out the amount of CO2 humans do. The figure is around 1%.

Which would explain the end of those reports.

WolfVanZandt

10-18-2015, 10:11 PM

The problem with the volcano comparison (Mt. Pinatubo being the last great greenhouse volcano I remember) is that the earth is able to heal itself given the chance. A volcano is a transient. What we're doing to the atmosphere is continuous and doesn't allow for correction. The reason we still have an ozone layer is that we quit using the chemicals that were eating it.

Even wolves know that you don't defecate where you live. Humans have always had a problem with survival ethics. The plague epidemics that constantly were wiping out populations in the Middle Ages and beyond had more to do with poor survival behaviors than any rat, flea or even Edger Allen Poe that might have been around. At one time, I am told by my neighbors, Denver had one of the most advanced water treatment plants in the US (and the cleanest drinking water), until people realized that they were drinking recycled water, at which time they forced the city government to return to traditional water treatment which, of course, reduced the quality of drinking water considerably. Survival has more to do with behavior than it does technology.

Phaedrus

10-19-2015, 01:20 AM

Even wolves know that you don't defecate where you live. Humans have always had a problem with survival ethics. The plague epidemics that constantly were wiping out populations in the Middle Ages and beyond had more to do with poor survival behaviors than any rat, flea or even Edger Allen Poe that might have been around. At one time, I am told by my neighbors, Denver had one of the most advanced water treatment plants in the US (and the cleanest drinking water), until people realized that they were drinking recycled water, at which time they forced the city government to return to traditional water treatment which, of course, reduced the quality of drinking water considerably. Survival has more to do with behavior than it does technology.

Well said. This is a classic case of The Tragedy of the Commons. That which is held in common to all but exclusive to none will be exploited ruthlessly. Call it the "company car syndrome". Everyone that's a stakeholder can rationalize and tell themselves that it's not really their problem; someone else is probably more to blame than me; someone else will fix it; we'll worry about it later; etc etc. I've seen this so many times.

Desert Rat!

10-19-2015, 09:46 PM

Carbon Dioxide, you mean the stuff plants need to survive, I like plants, don't they make Oxygen?

Phaedrus

10-20-2015, 03:20 AM

Carbon dioxide, but also methane. Plants do use the stuff but unfortunately they can't convert all of the "excess" into oxygen. That would be a neat magic trick! Some plants will perhaps do a little better but the increased temps and changing weather patterns will result in many areas being much drier, and of course overall everything will be hotter. That will help some plants and kill many others.

WolfVanZandt

10-20-2015, 06:29 PM

Also there's a lot of deforestation going on. And if w don't kill all the forests off and replace all the broadleaf forests with less efficient transformers of atmosphere but more economical evergreens, the encroaching shoreline will help.

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