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DSJohnson
09-12-2015, 01:08 AM
So this is kind of because of the post that Jimmy Whisper started about sheaths but more because of the link that Rick added from 2009 about a PSK based around a neck knife by Pict. Here is my question: 1. How many of you actually use/wear/carry a knife hung around your neck? 1A. Is this an everyday deal or just when you are "out in the woods"? 1B. How big a "neck knife" is it?
Rick, Thank you for posting that link. I had missed it and really enjoyed the thread and the video.
Jimmy Whisper, Thank you for starting your post. Great area/idea to discuss and learn from.
druid
09-12-2015, 02:34 AM
Nope...no neck knives for me. Ever. However I do have PSKs for both woods and Urban terrains.
Winnie
09-12-2015, 04:53 AM
Aside from the whole not allowed to take out anything pointy, I don't carry anything round my neck....now. I used to wear a lanyard with an ID badge at work many years ago, but when it got trapped in a draw, and I nearly killed myself by banging my head on a workbench covered in bottles on analytical chemicals, I stopped wearing it and went to a pin on badge. The thought of anything dangling around my neck gives me the heebie jeebies.
crashdive123
09-12-2015, 06:07 AM
I do not where a neck knife. While I did build a neck knife kit like Pict showed, I prefer not to where things around my neck. When I do (which is rare) I do have a break away feature to prevent from hanging myself.
pete lynch
09-12-2015, 07:44 AM
I have a neck knife I wear depending where I am (not EDC) and it is usually in the cooler days of fall/winter/spring so it's under at least one layer. No self-hangings yet. ;)
It's a Necker Becker on a length of p-cord with a few items held to it with a piece of inner tube like Pict's but not as complete.
Truth be told, I wear it mostly when I am taking a lengthy hike in unfamiliar surroundings. I always have another knife or two on me and a sidearm where permissible.
LowKey
09-12-2015, 08:23 AM
I don't wear stuff around my neck either. Safety hazard in my line of work. While my safety glasses do have a lanyard, I usually flip them up onto my hat rather than hang em around my neck. And the shop does insist they have breakaways. They even take the hood strings out of the hoodies they issue us in the fall/winter. My knife is a leatherman in a belt sheath.
My response is almost the same as Pete's. However, my kit is built on Mac's video. I do have a break away lanyard clip on mine. There are a lot of different designs but this is the type I have
https://www.lanyardsupply.com/ly403/im/safety-breakaway-buckles-ly-cc403ac-4.jpg
Works well with paracord.
Here's another idea that TJ posted.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?26328-Neck-Knife-suggestions&highlight=break+lanyard
Batch
09-12-2015, 12:27 PM
I tried 3 neck knife kits. A Mora, ESEE Izula, and a Newt Livesay.
I wasn't comfortable with any of them. The mora kit is taken apart for other kits and the Mora still has the paracord on the sheath for neck carry. But, I never carry it. It is my home bushcraft knife.
The Izula kit I gave to my brother Sean and he wears it around his neck occasionally on hikes. Otherwise it resides in his day pack.
I kept the Newt Livesay in its neck kit configuration in my pack for awhile. But, recently took the kit apart.
Pennsylvania Mike
09-12-2015, 01:02 PM
I do not use a neck knife all the time, but I do have a Mora which I carry most of the time with me sometimes in my cargo pocket in my shorts around camp (I am in a public campground for 6 moths out of the year), but when I'm fishing or crabbing on my boat I do carry the Mora around my neck.
hunter63
09-12-2015, 01:35 PM
While I do believe in redundancy........sometime I think the "kits" get a bit carried away.
Do carry a belt "mini kit" and is truly EDC......
Do carry knives, Gerber small folder/SAK/SAK money clip.....and with keys, SAK key ring.+ Bic+meds+money...in pockets
Made a neck knife kit....don't wear it, so went into a pack.
Made and carry PSK on woods hikes and outings.
Do carry hunting fanny pack/PSK
Do have boat kits, 4 wheeler kits, vehicle kits, BOB kits.......
Didn't make a walking stick kit, ...or a gunstock kit
Do not use Altoids tins.
Just seems that we get carried away and keep adding one more thing, one more thing,......gets too big, then don't carry the kit any more.
natertot
09-12-2015, 09:33 PM
Nothing around the neck for me.... Ever.... When it come to knives, I keep a folder with a clip on my pocket, a fixed in a sheath on my belt and in the woods I carry a larger fixed on my left shoulder strap.
madmax
09-12-2015, 09:50 PM
Yes I wear neckers. No not everyday ( doesn't go over well at the grocery store or the bank). Mora and some smaller ones.
DSJohnson
09-13-2015, 03:41 PM
Thank y'all for taking the time to reply. I was just curious because I have never worn a "neck" knife except for when I am on the water I almost always have a knife, usually a folder, that is "slung" on a lanyard (para cord) over one shoulder and stuck in my pocket. That is more to keep me from losing it over the side while I using it than to have it immediately available.
Hunter I have used a patch knife some also but I was out at the Museum of The Fur Trade in Chadron, Ne and noticed that several of the hunting bags (originals) in the exhibits had pre-cut patches hung off the front strap and so I started doing that. I like that a whole better than cutting my patching off every time. I keep a single blade folder in my shooting pouch anyway but I do not "wear" a patch knife any more.
As far as the "at work" scenario, yeah nothing that could get caught in all the rotating equipment. I did not even wear my wedding band. No loose dangling jewelry at all. I did wear a folder in my hip pocket all the time, and an 8" Ridgid pipe wrench too. Used the pipe wrench as a valve wrench more than a pipe wrench actually.
Again Thank all y'all for the opinions, insight and wisdom.
Dave
hunter63
09-13-2015, 08:03 PM
I do have a strip of pillow ticking hanging on my bag when.... I'm shooting,..... but do cut as I load, from the strip ....about 2"wide, with a streak of turbine oil soaked in......LOL
Patch knife in in a pouch on the strap, w/measure, capper, on lanyards........but for hunting, I do carry a loading block with 3 pre-patched round balls ready.
Lot of guys have patch knife on a neck lanyard like a "neck-er", but really didn't like to many "dangle-ly" things hanging off my neck and getting caught in the brush.
My horn on my hunting rig is hung for the strap of the possibles bag, as well....not around my neck.
How were the precut patches hung?
kyratshooter
09-13-2015, 10:57 PM
I have seen precut patches threaded and strung on a leather lace hanging from the bag strap.
You are best off punching a hole in the patch on the extreme corner since I have had the pleasure of poking the ball through the patch if the hole is in the middle and weakens the patch.
Not seen many originals done like that here in the east though. Might have been a western thing since the original gear here in the east tended to be of smaller nature than the western gear.
Neck knifes were not common among the pioneers either. Knives of any size were generally tucked into a sash, had belt loops or small patch knives were fastened to the shooting bag strap or the back of the bag.
Archeological remains show that there were a lot of folding knives, ranging from small to very large, in use among both pioneers and Native Americans, which I find unusual since at that time the pants had no pockets, and both settlers and Indians often wore breechcloths. Most of those knives probably were carried in the shooting pouch, or in the case of settlers in the waistcoat pocket.
I did see reference to French settlers and Indians carrying folding knives on lanyards they looped onto their belts.
natertot
09-14-2015, 01:06 AM
Archeological remains show that there were a lot of folding knives, ranging from small to very large, in use among both pioneers and Native Americans, which I find unusual since at that time the pants had no pockets, and both settlers and Indians often wore breechcloths. Most of those knives probably were carried in the shooting pouch, or in the case of settlers in the waistcoat pocket.
I did see reference to French settlers and Indians carrying folding knives on lanyards they looped onto their belts.
Two things that surprise me here. The first is the use of folders. I would have thought those would have little to no value at the time due to (I'm assuming) no locking mechanisms. I would think that a small fixed blade would be much more preferred.
The other thing is pants not having pockets. For a person going out and about back then, I would have thought that pants with pockets would be prized. Even lately, I find myself favoring cargo pants and shorts over others just to have more pockets. I even bought special scrubs for one job just because of the multitude of pockets.
You learned me something new today!
hunter63
09-14-2015, 01:31 AM
I have seen several old folders similar to this:
http://www.howtospotapsychopath.com/2010/01/08/my-roman-army-knife/
No lock to speak of.....
Phaedrus
09-14-2015, 03:05 AM
I have occasionally worn a neck knife but I'm not really fond of it. When I do it's with a breakaway cord but I have never liked anything around my neck. Be it a tie, necklace, badge etc. it's just not comfortable to me. Pity too since I have three Izulas, I just don't like 'em on my neck. However, on a longer expedition I would probably suck it up and wear one for redundancy. Occasionally I have carried a Mora around my neck as a backup. While it's a fair sized blade it's pretty light so really it's not much worse than the Izula comfort-wise.
kyratshooter
09-14-2015, 02:10 PM
Two things that surprise me here. The first is the use of folders. I would have thought those would have little to no value at the time due to (I'm assuming) no locking mechanisms. I would think that a small fixed blade would be much more preferred.
The other thing is pants not having pockets. For a person going out and about back then, I would have thought that pants with pockets would be prized. Even lately, I find myself favoring cargo pants and shorts over others just to have more pockets. I even bought special scrubs for one job just because of the multitude of pockets.
You learned me something new today!
Goes against convention and Hollywood but the presence of the artifacts speak for themselves, and it was the same in all the colonial areas, English, French Dutch and Spanish. Lots of folding knives.
Apparently no one told then they could not conquer the wilderness without an alphabet soup name knife by Bussie, Tops or Ontario, so they dropped their folding knife in the bag and headed to the woods.
And the knife style Hunter linked too was the common type. No locking mechanism and no back-spring. Just like the Openil knives of today.
Those were the cheapest knives available to the public and usually cost a penny, which was cheap even then. A blade, a rivet and wood, bone or horn handle.
If you got into a bit more money you could get a Barlow, which has been around since the early 1600s. Yep, the Barlow style has been around for 400 years.
As for the pockets in the pants, well that was just the way it was "back in the day". Pockets in the trousers did not gain acceptance until just before the Civil War. I am not sure about today, but I think I remember the Navy "Whites" not having pockets back in my day, though I was not a squid, the Army had pockets by then. They are a holdover from that time.
No pockets gave us a host of sayings, "Cutting the purse strings" being one of them. One tied his purse to his belt by the drawstrings. Thieves would cut the strings to steal the purse.
It also meant that men had the absolute requirement of carrying some sort of satchel or bag, for all the necessities of life. An idea I wish we embraced today.
Coats and jackets had pockets, big ones! Some of the "pocket guns" of days gone by had 6"-8" barrels.
Phaedrus
09-14-2015, 05:37 PM
I very much like Opinel knives. To me the carbon are best. The No.8 is a great size, too.
randyt
09-14-2015, 05:54 PM
I wear a neck knife often. It has a 4 inch blade, the sheath is strung on a piece of paracord or a strip of buckskin with no break away. I'm not concerned about combat or hanging myself. The knife is typically under my shirt and is only hanging out when I'm using it.
TXyakr
09-14-2015, 05:57 PM
I have occasionally worn a neck knife but I'm not really fond of it. When I do it's with a breakaway cord but I have never liked anything around my neck.
I agree with that. Just a heavy duty rubber band can work as a breakaway device as well, be sure to replace it before every trip or at least once a month. I also use these for emergency whistles if the cord length is long. I make sure every kid I take on a water trip has a whistle (signaling device as required by coast guard) but don't want them to become entangled in it and not be able to break away.
I very rarely put a small "neck knife" around my neck such as MoraKniv or CRKT river knife but mostly if on river it is attached to the PFD (most come with a place to attach these). Larger knife attached to dry-bag in easy reach. Can also be attached to front straps of backpack, or belt if hiking. Places where it is in easy reach but not a choking hazard. I am not a big fan of ankle/shin knives but if you have a good sheath this can work. Large blades (machete or kukri) attached to the side of your backpack may allow you to access the blade without removing the pack.
On the river in a kayak or canoe the most frequent use for a knife is to cut loose old abandoned fishing gear and tangled fishing line, if you are being washed down a rapid after being knocked out of your watercraft or have fallen into a creek while hiking or bank fishing and get entangled in fishing line and hooks it is a good idea to have a small knife handy that you can use to cut yourself free with. I have seen many birds and a few beavers etc dead or dying all tangled up in fishing line and hooks.
Many years ago I got washed about 30 yards down a steep creek because I stepped into it trying to retrieve my fly from a branch on the other side. I had to push the hook all the way through and cut off the barb to remove it, so it was a double FAIL!! ha ha ha.
Unfortunately I cannot find any photos of my finger with the fly/hook in it I know how Rick loves those graphic photos...
I carry a shave kit stuffed with my essentials. Goes with me everywhere.
Erratus Animus
09-17-2015, 01:58 PM
I have worn neck knives and make a good number of them for guys throughout the year but I don't generally wear them as much anymore for the above mentioned reasons. I prefer scout carry or cross draw. On my possibles bag there is a spot for a necker, I had it made larger for a necker over the patch knife which brings me to a more modern version of a possibles bag I do carry that has a necker in it.
Jimmy Whisper
09-17-2015, 09:20 PM
Sir,
It's my pleasure.
I tried the whole neck knife deal a few times. I've taken a few good tumbles over the years so my neck and shoulders start complaining very quickly if I even wear my dog tags. Having a few ounces or more of knife and kit around my neck just doesn't work. I try to figure out a way to get my knife on my belt or in my pocket. In the summer I use a belt clip or loop. In the winter I use a dangler to keep the knife accessible below my coat. That said, I never go anywhere without a knife. So even if its a cheap little cold steel safe maker around my neck I make sure there's a blade nearby.
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