So put a uber light fire kit together whats in your wallet?

[Wise Old Owl]

OK I am thinking this

Leakproof Zipper Locking Bags
Cotton from a vitamin bottle (tear off what you need)
Wind Matches self striking if you can find them
a WHITE micro BIC lighter. (you can see the fuel left)
a premium ferrous rod
an alcohol sanitizer (micro light bottle)
carbon patches
non blow out candles. (spoof)
A Magnifying Plastic Sheet 3x5

[Rick]

I use a military decon kit container. It's not waterproof but it is water resistant. Inside it I have the following:

One (1) Doan Magnesium Fire Starter.
One (1) Esbit fuel tab.
One (1) FireFixins Fire Starter. Waxed jute string and a piece of fatwood.
An orange matchbox that is water proof, holds 25 strike anywhere matches.
One (1) Buck MiniBuck folding Knife.
BIC lighter

The whole kit weighs eight ounces. I usually have a BIC lighter in my pocket and in my pack along with a couple of fero rods.

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/gallery/520x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/decon-500x500.jpg (http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/gallery/520x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/decon-500x500.jpg)

[DavSmrt]

Here's a couple more ideas:

Crayon - just like the non blow out candle, you can use it to get a fire going without using up the fluid in your bic. Cut off the bottom of the crayon so the paper wrapping is flush with edge and light the paper. The candle has the advantage of being wind proof, and the crayon has the advantage of being a writing utensil as well in case you need to write something. Could have both in your kit since neither take up much room.

Small pencil sharpener - can makes some tinder real quick by sharping a small stick and scoping the shaving into a pile.

I really like the ziplock bag idea. I never thought of that. It's very light weight and you can collect water with it, or use it as a fire starting lens with water in it.

[crashdive123]

I've got fire kits stuffed just about everywhere. Here's what's in most of them.

Bic
Firesteel
Matches in waterproof container
Mag bar
Marine signal flare (much smaller than my road flares)
Webber fire starting cube
Shaved fatwood
PJ soaked cotton
Small knife or striker

They will vary a bit, some with more or different items, some with less. In the other list posted so far there are a few items that I have tried, and just don't personally care for. Two being birthday cake candles and hand sanitizer. Just a personal preference - or non-preference as the case may be.

[Sarge47]

I saw this on Creek Stewart's web site and made up one like it:

http://www.notifbutwhensurvivalstore.com/product-p/creek-fire-kit.htm

:cool2:

[Batch]

I saw this Kick Starter video of a fire starter bracelet. The video shows a paracord bracelet with a button ferro and a round striker that the button goes into. In the video it looks like they used an accelerant to start the fire and referred to thumb size sticks as tinder.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tmdesign/firestarter-paracord-bracelet-and-keychain-surviva

[TXyakr]

Best to have small kit(s) or devices that are always with you like on key chain or in wallet and practiced skills in brain and muscle memory on fast fire starting. But an ideal kit for the worst-case scenarios of freezing rain and one hand is damaged and if I just fell thru the ice or something like that:

Ferrocerium Rod (Fire Steel GobSpark Armageddon replace lanyard with reflective 550 para-cord or shock-cord, 127mm, 5”) or 8x80mm for about $1-$4 with or without hold drilled from eBay works almost as well add shock-cord and vinyl tube to reduce chance you will break or lose it.

KNIFE!!! Preferably a fixed blade but a very good locking blade is OK. Most important thing is that the spine or “back of knife” have very sharp edges not rounded. For example I like the little Mora companion knives (I have both SS and carbon blades) but the spines are rounded off not sharp, so best to take a file and make sure at least one section is sharp then recoat it. Include a large carbon steel washer with sharp edges or striker on ferro’s lanyard so you don’t need to use knife, protect blade’s finish and if blade is lost. Make or buy a sheath of leather, Kydex or nylon webbing etc. with slot/tube for Ferrocerium rod. Glue on a vinyl tube or rivet on one made of leather or Kydex whatever it takes to your plastic or whatever knife sheath you already have. Keep these two together!!! Life without a knife sucks! If tip of knife is “drop point” or somewhat symmetrical it is easier to drill a hole in a fireboard for a hand or bow drill set for a friction fire aka rubbing sticks, OKC’s Blackbird has almost a perfectly symmetrical tip which makes drilling such holes very fast. Also knife must have hole in end of handle with wrist cord to allow you to extend leverage for chopping to get more fuel for fire. Sorry for knife verbosity but for fire, KNIFE IS MOST IMPORTANT TOOL!!! BAR NONE! Well brain and experience perhaps.

Note that a saw or dozens of other things will work to strike ferro rods but a good knife is best to make feather sticks and split small wood to get to dry material inside of twigs and small branches (baton small diameter wood, rarely necessary to baton large diameter, just burn as is when small is going.)

If those two fail and it is very wet and cold:

Magnesium block and scraper (hack saw blade 2-3 inches) rectangle or round mag block with holes on lanyard or chain not a big deal but a sheath is best or your bag whatever. Next major holiday Harbor Freight may have mag blocks for $1 each, so get one and try it in the rain on wet but dead squaw wood twigs feathered at local park in a BBQ pit, embrace the suck.

Other tinders like: jute, cotton balls, petroleum jelly (screw top squeeze tube because I add to feather sticks, cat-tail, cotton wood bloom etc.), bee’s wax, lamp oil, dry container or bag to collect natural tinder before it rains. I put some jute and/or pj+cotton balls in plastic container with rubber o-ring sold for matches.

My preferred backup and primary when I am in a hurry:
Large Maratac Titanium Peanut Lighter from CountyComm dot com for $35 1.89” x 0.56” 0.80 oz
Also Stainless Steel Maratac from CountyComm or Bladehq for about $16, or copper for $22 etc and smaller size as well, does not leak like Zippco or get crushed as easily as BIC or other plastic types and can stand on end to use as a lamp. A cheap knock off on eBay is $3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdehJC-q0HM#t=574

Esbit fuel tablets or the similar ones from Weber BBQ are probably very good, much better than actual lighter fluid but I have never tired them to light a campfire. What is their shelf life?

On my keychain I keep Maxam® Falcon VII Lockback Pocket Knife which has a terrible quality SS blade that does not stay sharp, the locking mechanism is horrible, handle is very bad, but it cost me less than $1. (buy by the dozen on eBay) If lost not a big deal. I have several other blades in vehicle, boat, house, etc., not all legal length or type for Texas which has some to the most ridiculous laws in USA and most LEO know this so I am very polite to them and don't provoke rude people or their pets I meet and don't give LEO cause to search. I always strap on better knife when going for a short trail hike or paddle down a river even very short 1 hour. Spyderco has much better tiny knives but I would just lose them because they are so small.

Just had and idea, will post a photo but am waiting for more ferro rods on slow boat from China eBay order. Use 10+ yards of 550 paracord reflective type and hot glue gun because it is easy to remove to hold tight fitting vinyl tube for ferro rod with shock-cord loop holding it in to outside of cheap plastic sheath that Mora companion Knife comes with. Both SS and carbon blades for a total for $30 on Amazon including Prime shipping, i.e. $15 per blade. If you want a very cheap light weight blade for canoe/water sports there are others like the full sized SS Gerber Paraframe folding is OK (local Walmart has these $20) and very light but I prefer micarta handles or soft rubber is OK but does not last as long, hard material will slip when wet/bloody/fish slime etc. and your hand could get sliced.

[TXyakr]

I saw this Kick Starter video of a fire starter bracelet. The video shows a paracord bracelet with a button ferro and a round striker that the button goes into. In the video it looks like they used an accelerant to start the fire and referred to thumb size sticks as tinder.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tmdesign/firestarter-paracord-bracelet-and-keychain-surviva

I forgot the link and am to lazy to look it up but member here make some kit and sold them here similar to that but with a striker protected in the back side a few years ago.

On eBay you can buy them including slow shipping for under $6 or buy the ferro toggle for under $1 and whistle/buckle and make it yourself more custom, don't forget to add the hemp or whatever tinder in the cordage. Here is one of many:

9'' Survival Paracord Bracelet +Whistle/Ferrocerium Rod/Scraper/Hemp twine

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Survival-Paracord-Bracelet-Whistle-Ferrocerium-Rod-Scraper-Hemp-twine-Ocean-/141257071251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20e393da93

The shorter the ferro rod the fewer sparks with each strike so if your tinder is very wet and air is humid this can be a PITA. I would consider this a backup not primary. Works great if not a SHTF scenario. Also I have had several of similar plastic/ABS buckles break when hit or dropped on rock, so of you slid down a steep hill or got knocked out of watercraft in white river and struck wrist on rocks you might loose bracelet. Many other reasons I don't like bracelets as primary. But a good back up device to have regardless.

Therefore the Kickstarter one or using steel washer not plastic buckle to hold ferro toggle is better IMO.

[hunter63]

I have fire kits everywhere...being a X-smoker, lighting up is always number one in any situation.
You want fire?...camp with a smoker.

Many of these kits, mostly all have matches, cotton balls, ferro rods , and Bic's in them.
Wallet has parabolic magnifier both for fire starting and losing glasses.

To be effective your kits needs to be with you at all times....or Murphy will get you, when you lease expect it.

EDC is a belt pouch, Mini multi tool, Mini Bic, Ferro rod, striker and cotton balls stuffed in the bottom of the pouch...(SAK pouch)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/DSCF1047.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/DSCF1047.jpg.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/DSCF1046.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/hunter63/media/DSCF1046.jpg.html)

[Rick]

One of our own has invented and patented a fire starting survival bracelet. This is Paracord's:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?25618-Successfully-patented-my-paracord-survival-bracelet-invention!&highlight=patent

[Wise Old Owl]

One of our own has invented and patented a fire starting survival bracelet. This is Paracord's:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?25618-Successfully-patented-my-paracord-survival-bracelet-invention!&highlight=patent

I was looking for more like your first post in this thread...Ya nailed it.

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