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Iskander
02-02-2015, 09:28 PM
If you don't already know, silver has excellent antibacterial properties and has been used in medicine since antiquity. Silver sutures were used in WWII to prevent infections. Well, I've never heard anyone talk about using silver to disinfect water, but I would think it should work under the same principles. I'm not sure how much silver is required for how much water, but would assume a pure ounce of silver could disinfect a small pot of water if left to sit for some time. This of course shouldn't be used exclusively and I would only use this method if I had no means for a fire and nothing else to disinfect the water.

Rick
02-03-2015, 07:26 AM
Several water filters use impregnated silver membranes. However, There are a lot more nasties in the water than bacteria. Cryptosporidium oocysts are probably the toughest buggers out there. There isn't much that will kill them. Boiling, Reverse Osmosis and UV light does. Beyond that it requires filtering. Unless you have documentation to the contrary I doubt any amount of silver would kill the oocysts no matter how long the water sat. At nearly $18 an ounce there are more cost effective methods of treating water.

hunter63
02-03-2015, 12:26 PM
Hunter63 saying Hay and Welcome.
There is a intro section at.......
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?14-Introductions

Might want to do a little more research on the ounce of silver to pot of water.....sound kinda pricey to me.....

Rick
02-03-2015, 02:19 PM
I just happened to see this report on UV light this morning. It was like...why didn't I think of that and make a zillion dollars. Just set a pan of water out and come back later.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/germ-zapping-robot-combats-hospital-infections/

TXyakr
02-04-2015, 12:37 AM
I agree Rick UV from the sun should always be considered at least as a backup water purification tool. This is why I always carry at least one but usually 2 Smartwater clear bottles (labels removed, that also fit Sawyer mini filter). Here is an article that gives some basic guidelines on how to use them the key is to keep the water clear. Even if your only source is a muddy puddle or river, if you dig a hole next to it the water will slowly filter thru sand and be relatively clearer, in most cases, cover with sticks, leaves and fabric if possible.

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/how-to-purify-water-with-sunlight/

I reiterate this is my BACKUP or last resort plan NOT how I plan to filter my primary drinking water!

finallyME
02-04-2015, 12:21 PM
If I were to use silver, I would use colloidal silver. You don't use much (think particle size). But, will it crack the cysts? I don't know if much research has been done here...maybe? UV works well, as long as the water isn't too dirty. The dirt particles block the light. As long as the UV light can hit all the little buggers, then good. Another option is ozone. That stuff is pretty deadly.

Cysts are hard to kill. The outer shell makes it hard to penetrate the bacteria and kill it. But, that shell also makes it BIG with respect to other bacteria sizes. Most filters will filter out cysts. Viruses are generally too small for filters, but are easy to kill with chemical/UV means. If you want ultimate genocide of all things little in your water, a combined attack is probably the best method.

Iskander
02-04-2015, 04:10 PM
I buy silver (and a little gold) as a way of prepping for financial disaster, trying to maintain financial security in this crazy fiat world that is bound not to last forever. I also carry an ounce of silver with me everywhere I go, more as a good luck charm than anything I guess. If something very unexpected were to happen to me and I was forced in a survival situation without gear, I would literally have nothing but silver to purify any found water, but I'm working on getting some real gear together!

Rick
02-04-2015, 04:38 PM
ahem. Please send all that filthy fiat lucre to me. I don't want you to be troubled by it and I will properly dispose of it for you. Just PM me for where to send it. I need to go look online at some new guns now.

kyratshooter
02-04-2015, 05:02 PM
You guys do understand what the term "inert" means???

Silver is an inert metal. It is non-reactive.

You drop a lump of silver in a jar of water and what you have is water with a lump of silver in it! You have to activate the silver chemically or electrically in some way for it to do anything other than just sit there. That is one reason it was used, in the past, in dental fillings and bridge work. And silver was used in surgery because it was inert and would not cause infection and could be left inside the body with no ill effects, not because it fought infection.

And the plastic jug filled with water sitting in the sun. What you have there is the ideal growth medium for water borne bacteria. If you try that method and do not get sick it is because there were no "nasties" in the water to start with!

That or you were using an old bleach bottle.

As for the one ounce silver charm buying your way through the apocalypse???

How far do you think you are going to get on $17.40???

I wonder if silver bullets work on zombies???

hunter63
02-04-2015, 05:35 PM
..........................
I wonder if silver bullets work on zombies???



Well, I still have some old "silver tip"......32 Winchester Specials.......seems to work on werewolves....except when they changed back, they were some one I knew and owed me money.......

Zombies?....Gonna need airsoft for that.....saw it on the inter web.

Gotta go, got a bunch of gal jugs to empty out, with silver coins in them.......guess that ain't gonna work , Huh?.....

Bhohahahaha....Thanks for the laugh......

Iskander
02-04-2015, 10:28 PM
You guys do understand what the term "inert" means???

Silver is an inert metal. It is non-reactive.

You drop a lump of silver in a jar of water and what you have is water with a lump of silver in it! You have to activate the silver chemically or electrically in some way for it to do anything other than just sit there. That is one reason it was used, in the past, in dental fillings and bridge work. And silver was used in surgery because it was inert and would not cause infection and could be left inside the body with no ill effects, not because it fought infection.

And the plastic jug filled with water sitting in the sun. What you have there is the ideal growth medium for water borne bacteria. If you try that method and do not get sick it is because there were no "nasties" in the water to start with!

That or you were using an old bleach bottle.

As for the one ounce silver charm buying your way through the apocalypse???

How far do you think you are going to get on $17.40???

I wonder if silver bullets work on zombies???

This reply is ignorant on more than one level. First of all, you are simply wrong about silver not containing antibacterial properties and just being "inert" and having to be "activated" to do anything. They made silver-lined socks to ward off bad foot odor. How this worked is because it fought off the bacteria that created the odor. And, like I said, the reason they used it for sutures in WWII was to prevent infections with its naturally occurring antibacterial properties, not for any other reason. Look it up. If not for that reason they could have chose something much cheaper.

This is from Wikipedia, "The silver ion (Ag+
) is bioactive and in sufficient concentration readily kills bacteria in vitro. Silver exhibits low toxicity in the human body, and minimal risk is expected due to clinical exposure by inhalation, ingestion, dermal application.[6] Silver and silver nanoparticles are used as an antimicrobial in a variety of industrial, healthcare and domestic applications.[7]" Do some research before making a fool of yourself. You're trying to appear educated in a subject you clearly know nothing about.

Secondly, I never stated that I only have one ounce of silver OR that the reason I carry one ounce of silver with me is to ward off financial disaster. Last but not least, what makes you think the current spot price will be permanent, especially in the case of a financial collapse? Just a few years ago the spot price of silver was more than double what it is now. It is constantly fluctuating. In the scenario of fiat-failure, it would most certainly be WORTH much more than it is worth now, but more to the point, it would not be "worth" any $ amount because the dollar will no longer have any worth. That's what fiat-failure means, financial collapse of the dollar. If that happens (as it has happened throughout history with every single form of fiat currency ever used) I obviously wouldn't be measuring the worth of my silver or gold in dollars.

But thanks for the laugh ;)

hunter63
02-04-2015, 11:40 PM
Yeah well, I still sticking with filtering and boiling........

I have to believe that if an ounce of silver, (at whatever price) did indeed "disinfect" contaminated water.....every tactical, survival, prepper supplier would be selling the "Magic silver bullet" for much more than a $18 bucks.

Most all references seem to be of a preventive nature, rather than an active disinfectant.

Might want to tone it down some......you are not scoring many points.....and closes minds.

Iskander
02-05-2015, 12:28 AM
I was merely responding to the way that he was trying to belittle me with his uneducated reply. I didn't come here to make enemies, but I don't appreciate people trying to make me look bad and/or stupid, and I will defend myself from someone doing that, especially if they don't really know what they're talking about. My tone was in response to his. I apologize if I got a little too heated in my response. Rick already answered my question so it was all unnecessary anyway.

kyratshooter
02-05-2015, 05:32 AM
Rice University's biochemistry department disagrees with the simple application of silver. It must be ionized (That means activation forced at the atomic level), and if the dosage is not exact it will cause immunity of the bacteria and strengthen what you are trying to kill.

http://news.rice.edu/2012/07/11/ions-not-particles-make-silver-toxic-to-bacteria-3/

I trust Rice University's research and website over Wiki any day of the week.

It's been a forty years since I was in a chemistry classroom but I still remember a little bit of that equation balancing misery.

edr730
02-05-2015, 06:19 AM
Oligodynamic Effect

edr730
02-05-2015, 07:37 AM
Metallic silver is inert in the presence of human tissues but ionizes in the presence of moisture, body fluids, and secretions to release the biologically active Ag+ (i.e., ionic silver).
-- Alan B.G. Lansdown, A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as an Antimicrobial Agent in Medical Devices, Advances in Pharmacological Sciences, Vol. 2010, Article ID 910686
This is an old arguement in some corners. Rice has shown, as others before them have shown, that it is the ionic part of the silver that acts as an antimicrobial. Part of what Rice was doing was getting the amounts and type of silver correct since silver is expensive. Like antibacterial soap, too little could give the bacteria time to become resistant and too much would make a product more expensive or possibly toxic.
So, silver will ionize and kill microbes with moisture, body fluids etc How effective, how toxic and how much do you need to use are good questions to have answered.

kyratshooter
02-05-2015, 01:51 PM
And is that not a good question to have answered before one depends on a method or device to insure their well being.

I can purify water with a few drops of bleach, with a $20 Lifeastraw, with a Kataden pump, or by boiling, and meet the normal standards for purity.

At this point in time there is no device or method, using only silver, approved by the FDA for use by campers and backpackers to purify water.

Although I did see one test that guaranteed that dropping a silver coin into a pot of boiling water would work every time!

I think it was a joke.

hunter63
02-05-2015, 02:01 PM
So may be cashing in a ounce of silver, and picking up an a filter, or a pot to boil the water might be a better approach?

BTW where does one sell silver in a SHTF?.......

Reminds me of my emergency fund in the truck.....had $100 bill ticked in a "special place".
Ran off the road, got a tow truck......didn't take credit cards, didn't take checks, no cell service......

So he says, "That will be $50 bucks".......I said, "All I got is a hundred"......Then he said, "I don't make change......That will do"

Carry a larger selection of cash these days.

That chunk of lucky silver is gonna be good to use once,.... maybe, if some one wants it....and they will not make change.

OP mentioned getting some real gear....that would be a good idea....IMHO

Rick
02-05-2015, 03:06 PM
Although I did see one test that guaranteed that dropping a silver coin into a pot of boiling water would work every time!

Most excellent. I love it!

Iskander
02-05-2015, 03:38 PM
Okay, so we were both wrong and right. The activation of ionic silver in the presence of moisture accounts for its usefulness in socks, surgical dressings and sutures. Since it's moisture that activates the anti microbial effects, I guess my original question wasn't all that dumb after all.

Trusting something on Wikipedia is not just "trusting Wikipedia" it is trusting the citations (if any). You don't have to trust it if it says "citation needed" but I would never use a quote without a citation to back an argument. In the example I used, this is one of the citations. It covers many of the same things you presented....it won't let me post it, being a new member. But it's out there to be found, if you want to read it.

Speaking of which, there is a MUCH more interesting survival related use of silver that I think you would all be very interested in reading about, but I can't post it until the new wears off of this account. How many posts is that, 20?

edr730
02-05-2015, 04:15 PM
I did see an article about hospitals using copper and silver filters for keeping water clean. The article also commented that they found that the addition of chlorine in certain amounts, with what method I don't recall, created a combined effect that was more effective. They found that the copper and silver filters killed the great majority but not all of the most difficult microbes. Copper like silver has been used about a couple thousand years for wine and water. Silver as a health remedy has been toted quite a while in recent years. I guess we'll see if hunter will someday be putting those silver coins back in those jugs or not.

TXyakr
02-05-2015, 04:51 PM
Iskander if you were in an extreme situation there are many techniques to purify water with next to nothing on you. There are several good "survival" training classes around the country and a BUNCH of worthless ones, also a bunch of worthless books and online blogs and comments as you have seen ^.

It would violate the "Material Safety Data Sheet" to use a bit of Curad Silver Solution First Aid Antimicrobial Gel to purify some water but technically it might work, but I would visit a doctor and purge my system with appropriate drugs as soon as possible after. Same thing with most other methods that are NOT RECOMMENDED by the CDC. Unlike most people on the so called "survival forums" I have actually survived in actual wilderness areas overseas for many months far from any civilization (electricity, running water, medical personnel etc) and have recovered from many different pathogens in un-purified water. Whenever possible I recommend boiling your drinking water, there are many ways to do this even without a pot/pan or container of any type purchased or found in civilization.

Your silver idea in a SHTF situation does remind me of the passage from Revelations 6:6 that says in the "end times" "Two pounds of wheat for a day's wages." So personally I prefer to know how to forage for food, hunt, fish etc. And grow food! Silver/Gold/minerals will lose value when food is scarce.

Edit: CDC has many helpful publications on water purifications, some may take you hours to read through here is a quick visual chart:
http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/drinking/Backcountry_Water_Treatment.pdf

If you want a youtube video on how to purify some drinking water in most forested areas with just a small knife on you I can look up one or more links but these techniques are VERY time consuming and require a LOT of practice. Other methods in desert, arctic, coastal etc.

In my personal opinion good survival training should also include recovering from water borne pathogens but most are only a 1-3 days and do not cover that because they are for civilians and do not have enough insurance coverage.

hunter63
02-05-2015, 06:02 PM
I did see an article about hospitals using copper and silver filters for keeping water clean. The article also commented that they found that the addition of chlorine in certain amounts, with what method I don't recall, created a combined effect that was more effective. They found that the copper and silver filters killed the great majority but not all of the most difficult microbes. Copper like silver has been used about a couple thousand years for wine and water. Silver as a health remedy has been toted quite a while in recent years. I guess we'll see if hunter will someday be putting those silver coins back in those jugs or not.

Nope, gonna take them coins....truck on down to Bert's Beer Depot....and get me some Old Style....that is fully krausened.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fully%20krausened

Civilization as we know it was started so the boys could stick around in one place , harvest the ingredients, brew the beer, and drink it instead of the water....water will kill ya.

Iskander
02-05-2015, 09:12 PM
Your silver idea in a SHTF situation does remind me of the passage from Revelations 6:6 that says in the "end times" "Two pounds of wheat for a day's wages." So personally I prefer to know how to forage for food, hunt, fish etc. And grow food! Silver/Gold/minerals will lose value when food is scarce.



Who can say for sure? History has shown us time and time again that when something doesn't work (and you'd be insane to say that this current debt-based fiat system "works") the first thing people go back to is precious metals. I don't have all my eggs in one basket. Precious metals are secondary to real survival training, stocking up on supplies, etc. But I find it highly unlikely that precious metals will lose all value, as this has never happened before in history. We humans work best with some form of currency. If there was total financial collapse (and I don't necessarily think there will be) lack of an established currency will be an issue at first, and people would probably be hesitant to accept precious metals. They'd want food, fuel, etc. But how long do you think it would really take for some agency/the government to step up and create the next currency, and a damn good chance of that going back to precious metal backing? People would want that security again, like we had in the past. Or, if it takes longer than people can wait for, there will be trading on a local level and even on a local level, the first thing people would use (as a currency and not just trade) would still be precious metals. They've always been precious to us, there's no reason to think they will not remain that way, no matter what the situation.

I'm surprised more people here aren't with me on this. Financial prepping should be part of the bigger picture, no?

Iskander
02-05-2015, 09:27 PM
I also want to go ahead and man up and apologize Kryat, if you're reading this. I shouldn't have snapped at you like that. I could have said what I said without being rude about it. Especially being the new guy, I didn't make a very good first impression. I'm sure, on this forum, I have much more to learn from you than the other way around. You'll find I'm typically a pretty agreeable guy.

TXyakr
02-06-2015, 01:04 AM
Who can say for sure? History has shown us time and time again that when something doesn't work (and you'd be insane to say that this current debt-based fiat system "works") the first thing people go back to is precious metals. I don't have all my eggs in one basket. Precious metals are secondary to real survival training, stocking up on supplies, etc. But I find it highly unlikely that precious metals will lose all value, as this has never happened before in history. We humans work best with some form of currency. If there was total financial collapse (and I don't necessarily think there will be) lack of an established currency will be an issue at first, and people would probably be hesitant to accept precious metals. They'd want food, fuel, etc. But how long do you think it would really take for some agency/the government to step up and create the next currency, and a damn good chance of that going back to precious metal backing? People would want that security again, like we had in the past. Or, if it takes longer than people can wait for, there will be trading on a local level and even on a local level, the first thing people would use (as a currency and not just trade) would still be precious metals. They've always been precious to us, there's no reason to think they will not remain that way, no matter what the situation.

I'm surprised more people here aren't with me on this. Financial prepping should be part of the bigger picture, no?

I agree with you a diversified portfolio of precious metals, possibly gemstones, commodities, arms, and more liquid assets is a good idea in case there is a global or national financial collapse or downturn. I am not fluent in the original Aramic but fairly sure that Rev 6:6 was referring to hyper inflation in times of drought or possibly financial collapse where a gold coin of relatively high value was required to purchase wheat or barley (food) of a relatively small amount. (dozens of commentaries with different interpretations on this passage that go on and on about it).

Example of someone who knew a lot about one investment vehicle but put too much into it was the uncle of a friend of mine. He had only 2 daughters but really enjoyed hunting and firearms (lawyer big time into NRA) so he very carefully purchase 100's of thousands of $ of very high quality collectable firearms that appreciated in value over many decades. Reasonably good investment especially with Clinton and Obama hype/fear 2nd Amend blah blah. So value went WAY up. But these are not very "liquid". So when he figured out that no grandchild was coming that would value this collection like he did, he finally started to sell them off, because his daughters did not know how to get fair or full market value (i.e. they were not liquid assets). I am NOT giving you financial advice just telling an interesting story that may be of interest to some "survival" folks. So some arms collecting and some silver can be good but possibly not a million dollars of it, it all depends.

Rick
02-06-2015, 07:22 AM
At Iskander:

1. You question wasn't dumb.
2. Your use of the term "ignorant" denotes uneducated so I let it stand. We are all uneducated in some subjects. Some of us more so than others.
3. Yes, financial planning has to be part of your overall planning and this subject has been discussed ad infinitum. I find it interesting that this was a universal subject from 2008 until some time in 2011 when things began to improve. Do a search on the forum for "finance" or "economics" and I'm sure you'll receive all the hits you care to read.
4. The number is 10 on restrictive posts. Since you are now past that you should be able to post links.

edr730
02-06-2015, 08:29 AM
Darn Hunter. I'm beginning to understand the wisdom of your SHTF trading strategy. You've decided to reinvest in a very liquid asset. Clever...very clever. However you may need to work very hard to keep up with the replacement cycle so your stock will not depreciate.

TXyakr
02-06-2015, 01:33 PM
Civilization as we know it was started so the boys could stick around in one place , harvest the ingredients, brew the beer, and drink it instead of the water....water will kill ya.

You are correct hunter63, the water especially if left in barrels on ships for a long time will kill ya. America's early Pilgrims knew this that is why they drank beer not water. Also a reason I was trained by ACTUAL EXPERTS not random folks on the internet how to purify water in extreme conditions the way I do. BTW

"Aboard ship, the voyagers ate bread, biscuits, pudding, cheese, crackers, and dried meats and fruits. Instead of water, they brought barrels of beer -- a standard practice in the days before refrigeration, because beer remained potable longer than water."

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=43005

Those who do not trust the US Government or the US military please disregard and completely ignore this comment, Thank You.
It may be a complete fabrication or conspiracy to sell beer, who knows. Put on your tin hat and hide under a rock or something. LOL

hunter63
02-06-2015, 01:47 PM
Darn Hunter. I'm beginning to understand the wisdom of your SHTF trading strategy. You've decided to reinvest in a very liquid asset. Clever...very clever. However you may need to work very hard to keep up with the replacement cycle so your stock will not depreciate.

Yup.....Lawn chair, and brewskies....

Oh yeah.....and Wake up Leroy.....he ain't seen a real TEOTWAWKI before.......(get it?......Never seen?.....never mind...)

TXyakr
02-06-2015, 02:26 PM
As you no doubt already know Iskander: after the people in India were first introduce to Silver Coinage by the Greeks about 2600 years ago they have become quite fond of it. India now holds much of the world's reserves of silver in the forms of SHTF (rainy day) investments. Nelson and William Hunt of Dallas, TX tried but failed to manipulate them, the global silver market (funny stuff, good ol'boys from S-AR).

So as a Electronic Engineer I can appreciate the many practical uses of silver. In a primitive situation I would definitely want some as well. A great conductor, and low in corrosion. I could Macgyver a wide range of useful items with it. More useful than copper or even gold, can make a battery, phone charger and much much more with not much of anything else that i cannot find in the forest. Always good to have a nerd with you if SHTF. Like that fictional "professor" on Gilligan's Island. Most of that was nonsense, but some was based on truth.

hunter63
02-06-2015, 02:31 PM
.................
Like that fictional "professor" on Gilligan's Island. Most of that was nonsense, but some was based on truth.

Whadaya mean Fictional?.......What about Ginger and Mary Ann?.....now THAT was a fantasy..........
Never mind....

TXyakr
02-06-2015, 03:01 PM
Whadaya mean Fictional?.......What about Ginger and Mary Ann?.....now THAT was a fantasy..........
Never mind....

I hope Iskander does not mind the highly entertaining thread drifting here

Ginger and Mary Ann may have been a "cold shower" reality for some teenage boys in the 1960s, 1970's re-runs LOL

I was forced to redirect my mind to science to prevent the onset of blindness, and have less to discuss with the priest in his little booth.

hunter63
02-06-2015, 03:12 PM
I hope Iskander does not mind the highly entertaining thread drifting here

Ginger and Mary Ann may have been a "cold shower" reality for some teenage boys in the 1960s, 1970's re-runs LOL

I was forced to redirect my mind to science to prevent the onset of blindness, and have less to discuss with the priest in his little booth.

Pssst......They do have glasses......

Iskander
02-06-2015, 04:07 PM
Lol nothing wrong with entertaining and educational drifting.

I was not aware that India holds a lot of the world's reserves in silver. I have read they're quite fond of gold too, and a little gold is said to exist in the homes of most peasants (I don't like using that word). I believe it is China where many will cook their food with a gold coin, as it supposedly leaves some healthy residue in the food. I'm not sure if there's much truth to that, but gold can be eaten with no I'll effect. I'm not sure if it really has any positive effect either though. Food for thought :P

randyt
02-06-2015, 07:13 PM
there is vodka available with gold flakes mixes in.

On another note I always thought folks from wisconsin drank hamms beer as a general rule.

hunter63
02-06-2015, 07:38 PM
there is vodka available with gold flakes mixes in.

On another note I always thought folks from wisconsin drank hamms beer as a general rule.

They make a Schnapps with gold flakes.....Goldschlager
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldschl%C3%A4ger

Well known "snow snake remedy"......

Hamms hasn't been around much lately......Mostly Miller, Budweiser, or if being uppity, Leinenkugels.......

randyt
02-06-2015, 07:45 PM
I think Smirnoff gold has gold flakes in.

I noticed the farther west I travel in the U.P. of michigan and the closer I get to wisconsin, the more hamms shows up at the stores. LOL

Rick
02-07-2015, 08:26 AM
Okay. My mind went weird again. How do you pass gold flakes? I mean, if it comes out in the urine wouldn't that be a bit like a machine gun? That can't be good. If comes out the other way then I smell a new reality show on the horizon. Poop Prospectors. (Get it? Poop? Smell a new show? I slay myself).

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