you can't fix crazy

[randyt]

but mother nature will.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/09/rcmp-believe-missing-japanese-psychiatrist-had-suicidal-plan-to-disappear-into-wilderness-outside-yellowknife/

[hunter63]

She always does......Mother Nature, that is, might not be today....but mess with her long enough and she will win.

[LowKey]

Every once in a while someone wanders off into the woods around here in late fall or winter to commit suicide in one way or another.
I'm sure it happens all over the world.

Here the helicopters are always called out, flying low for hours over the state forest while search parties trudge through the woods. It's alway a big deal.

It's a far different scenario than someone who needs rescue while out hiking. A lot of times they don't want to be found and all the helicopters in the world aren't going to help.

[natertot]

I don't know who is crazier. The lady, or all the psychiatrists that they used to analyze her.

[finallyME]

I don't know who is crazier. The lady, or all the psychiatrists that they used to analyze her.

It is my personal opinion that most psychiatrists and psychologist are crazy. All I have is anecdotal data and personal experiences. My wife was studying to be a psychologist. Eventually she changed her mind, but she found that a lot of kids in her classes were just plain crazy.....and they were studying to be psychologists.

Anyways, you can fix stupid, but it is illegal in most places. I hope they find her.

[kyratshooter]

I worked along side certified therapists for decades, and you do not know how true the suspicions are!

I found that most people entering that field were motivated my their own experiences and perceived needs and transferred their own situation to their treatment of every patient.

The Therapists were some of the sickest people that walked through the doors of the institution.

I am still not convinced this person committed suicide. Most suicides leave their body in a place where it will be found.

With this woman's looks she might be still alive in a cave somewhere in the forest, held as a love interest by a sasquatch.

[Rick]

she might be still alive in a cave somewhere in the forest, held as a love interest by a sasquatch.

Man. I may have to start a list for the forest. All Sasquatch would have to do is wink and I'd be outta there.

[BENESSE]

Shrinks might be crazy, but you need to be a little crazy to understand it in the first place. And someone's got to prescribe the meds some people need to function and make it through another day. A good shrink can save a life the way a good diagnostician can.

[Rick]

It seems to me that thinking shrinks are crazy is like thinking doctors are sick. There are all sorts of reasons people go into the medical field and into specific specialties and it usually does have something to do with some person in their life that has or had some medical condition. Everyone of us will have experience depression at some point in our lives be it the loss of a loved one, loss of a job or an organic part of a persons overall health. Psychiatrists and psychologists can do wonders and often times make a difference between a life well lived and a life of misery. Hopefully, a day will come when mental illness will be seen with as much compassion as a broken arm or cancer and appropriate, affordable treatment will be available for those that need it regardless of the depth of their illness.

[natertot]

It seems to me that thinking shrinks are crazy is like thinking doctors are sick.......

I have worked at a hospital that had two psych units and outpatient psych care. I had to work with the Psych docs and staff. All I can say is "birds of a feather fly together" applies. Not saying they are not needed but when psych staff are around, I keep a very close watch.

[tundrabadger]

I have worked at a hospital that had two psych units and outpatient psych care. I had to work with the Psych docs and staff. All I can say is "birds of a feather fly together" applies. Not saying they are not needed but when psych staff are around, I keep a very close watch.


I don't know about shrinks, but I can certainly relay that I've known a few social workers who seem to have been drawn to the profession partially because they themselves had some kind of issues. They still help people all the same, mind. Maybe they are even a bit better at it for understanding.

[Phaedrus]

Very strange case indeed.

[wilderness medic]

I have worked at a hospital that had two psych units and outpatient psych care. I had to work with the Psych docs and staff. All I can say is "birds of a feather fly together" applies. Not saying they are not needed but when psych staff are around, I keep a very close watch.
Gleich und Gleich gesellt sich gern


Nothing wrong with them having issues of their own. Sometimes it makes it easier to have someone that can relate. Doesn't mean they are bat S nuts.

You can't know the cure if you don't know the poison.

[Tokwan]

I think it s the people who decided to search for the guy who are crazy....the guys just wanna have a nice walk, be left alone and do some good thinking, maybe reflect upon himself..but the others, decided to use their dogs, helicopters and go into the jungle and search for him....he wasn't ;lost earlier, but when people started searchin for him, now he's really lost.

[natertot]

Gleich und Gleich gesellt sich gern


Nothing wrong with them having issues of their own. Sometimes it makes it easier to have someone that can relate. Doesn't mean they are bat S nuts.

You can't know the cure if you don't know the poison.

Here's an example for you.

Patient hops into the bed of another patient who was sleeping there. The first patient begins to further act physically inappropriate with the patient who is now awake, but mentally not aware of what is going on. I informed the charge nurse of what was going on. Not a regular nurse, or nurse assistant, the CHARGE NURSE. The response I got? "It's okay, sometimes that can be therapeutic".

So please explain to me how that is not bat S nuts or how one patient sexually assaulting another is a cure. I am really dying to know the answer to that. And this is just one example of my experiences.

I'm also curious as to why you posted the German version of the American saying. Utterly pointless and contributes nothing.

[Wildthang]

I once dated a girl that was a social worker, she dealt with child welfare and after a few years of seeing the heartbreak of what happens to innocent children, it almost drove her to a mental breakdown, and before she got out of that field, she was acting kind of crazy herself. In a huge number of cases she was powerless to do what was really right for the children, and that wore her down!
She quit that field, studied to be an RN, and now she is back to normal and is a happy well adjusted person. The insanity of what some people do to children almost drove her crazy so being exposed to the dark side does have a profound affect on most people.
In a previous post somebody said that Flying Together Phrase. It is true that being exposed to insanity for long periods will most likely change anybody in one way or another.
When I was a kid I worked with an older gentlemen that worked in a huge sanitarium in Vinita Oklahoma, a huge place and was one of the old infamous crazy houses that was eventually shut down. He told me that he had to quit because when he started to understand most of the people he worked around, he realized that he was changing mentally, and it scared him a lot.
He also told me that when the full moon was up, that place literally went bonkers, so I suppose the full moon theory is correct!

[finallyME]

Like I said before, all my data is anecdotal. I am sure there are lots of great psychologists and psychiatrists out there that aren't crazy. Just because I haven't met one yet, doesn't mean they don't exist.

[kyratshooter]

Reading this particular thread is really confirming some of my recent suspicions.

[Rick]

Weren't ya'll the same ones that, this time last year, were hollering about treating mental illness instead of banning weapons?

[kyratshooter]

So in an effort to put opinions that differ from you into a defensive posture you are going to change the focus to gun control?

[wilderness medic]

Here's an example for you.

Patient hops into the bed of another patient who was sleeping there. The first patient begins to further act physically inappropriate with the patient who is now awake, but mentally not aware of what is going on. I informed the charge nurse of what was going on. Not a regular nurse, or nurse assistant, the CHARGE NURSE. The response I got? "It's okay, sometimes that can be therapeutic".

So please explain to me how that is not bat S nuts or how one patient sexually assaulting another is a cure. I am really dying to know the answer to that. And this is just one example of my experiences.

I'm also curious as to why you posted the German version of the American saying. Utterly pointless and contributes nothing.

THAT is bat S nuts and inappropriate. I said someone that can relate, not let sexual abuse happen. Way different. I meant more along the lines as, lets say perhaps a rape victim becoming a psychiatrist and specializing in sexual trauma. She may not only have tools to help the person from school, but also having dealt with it personally have some additional things to offer that helped her.

A lot seem to be driven into the field because they know what it's like to be on the other side in some sort of way. I spoke with two social workers in training who said they were all mandated to go to psychiatry sessions themselves as part of the training.

As for the psyche ward/workers. I feel extremely unnerved there. The workers have never seemed to off to me besides for wanting to work there. But I never staid too long as that place seemed like a living hell. Just long enough to transfer care of a patient and run out. Hats off to anyone that could spend more than 30 minutes in that place.



I found that most people entering that field were motivated my their own experiences and perceived needs and transferred their own situation to their treatment of every patient.

The Therapists were some of the sickest people that walked through the doors of the institution.



This sounds very on point in the sense that they can have serious issues themselves. But even if that was so for every one, does that prevent them from helping others in a possibly life saving way?


Like I said before, all my data is anecdotal. I am sure there are lots of great psychologists and psychiatrists out there that aren't crazy. Just because I haven't met one yet, doesn't mean they don't exist.
I guess the definition of "crazy" is key here. Not sure if you're using at as slang for "a little off" or truly legally insane. But what's to say just because ones "crazy" they can't be a great psychologist or psychiatrist? How many great, brilliant people have we had that most on a day to day basis would view as "crazy"

[Rick]

So in an effort to put opinions that differ from you into a defensive posture you are going to change the focus to gun control?

Nope. Not at all. But then you knew that. Just reminding folks that none of this was being clamored about last year. We closed a lot of institutions in this country that housed those with mental problems and treated them less than human. Today, we allow them to walk the streets with no medical intervention and no notice except scorn and ridicule. And now we want to scorn all those that work in the profession because of some egregious examples? It's a perfect case of abductive reasoning. I do appreciate Finallyme's use of the term "anecdotal", however. It would appear we have changed little with regard to mental illness. Other than the fact we no longer lock patients away. The norms haven't changed however. Pity.

[hunter63]

but mother nature will.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/09/rcmp-believe-missing-japanese-psychiatrist-had-suicidal-plan-to-disappear-into-wilderness-outside-yellowknife/

Wonder what the true story is....no follow up?
Sounds like spring or chance?

[Seniorman]

" ... He also told me that when the full moon was up, that place literally went bonkers, so I suppose the full moon theory is correct!

I know quite a few police officers who've worked the streets for a long time, who agree 100% with that.

S.M.

[BENESSE]

The scary thing about mental illness is that if it goes untreated it may lead to death (suicide) of not only the patient but of other innocent people. (who the patient turns against) Can't say that about cancer, heart disease or other similarly grave physical illnesses. Just based on that difference, one would think mental illness should be taken way more seriously than it is.
Psychiatrists are MDs whose specialty is mental illness...they are the only ones qualified to treat it. If some people think that they are all crazy themselves (a crazy belief in itself, imo) I don't see any smart alternatives offered.

[Adventure Wolf]

My family has several members that suffer from bipolar disorder. All I will say on this matter is that when you spend your life wrestling with demons, eventually the demons are going to win.

[Tokwan]

Ok..one learning point for me..too many crazies in the US......its off my visiting list now.

[tundrabadger]

this time of year, Yellowknife get's down to about -25c at night. Sun is setting around 3:40 in the afternoon, and the days are only getting shorter, and from the pictures it didn't look like she had a really adequate coat. I'm not an expert on that part of the country, but it's probably safe to say the poor woman is dead.

[BENESSE]

Ok..one learning point for me..too many crazies in the US......its off my visiting list now.

Don't get me started about crazies around the world...why, there are NATIONS of crazies no one seems to be taking seriously.
Then when one of ours goes off the deep end, it's all over the globe. Let's keep a sense of proportion here...

[BornthatWay]

I like Israel ' s idea of dealing with crazies. Shoot to kill and ask questions later. Good example being in the synagogue in Jerusalem.

[natertot]

Weren't ya'll the same ones that, this time last year, were hollering about treating mental illness instead of banning weapons?

I was one of those guys and I still believe that to be true. My experience with psych staff is that they are nuttier than a squirrel turd, but, they have a caring heart to help people. I have yet to meet one that want's harm to come to someone, let alone cause that harm themselves.

Now, take all this wasted money on gun control and invest it into psychiatric care. Get the mental people that are on the streets that can never function in society into a permanent home with proper care. Take mentally ill who have shown to be physically aggressive and/or suicidal and give them proper long term treatment when it is needed. Invest into psychiatric care research like other health care research so better methods and treatments can become available.

So, yeah. I said it, and I still mean it. :tt2:

[natertot]

I agree that psych staff who have had issues, or family in friends with issues, can be great staff because of that. I worked security at the hospital I mentioned earlier and one of my greatest tools in the pysch units was not on my belt. It was my mouth. Simple words of treating people, even psych ill people, with kindness and humanity worked in the situation at least 90% of the time. I had staff puzzled a lot of the time. I recall one nurse was having issues with a patient not taking their meds. The nurse was at the nurse station so I went ahead a talked to the patient in their room. After a few minutes, I discovered that the patient had not been told what his plan of treatment was or was given a tour of the facility. The patient was also a little leery of hospitals anyway. So I took him around. I showed him where some clean clothes were, where his shower was, where he could watch tv, get snacks, play games, etc. Less then 10 minutes after I got there, he was ready to take his meds without an issue. Nurse couldn't believe it didn't take a crew of people to hold him down and force meds. Nurse didn't want to take 5mins to see what was going on with the patient. This is an example where we need to improve care for mentally ill. Treat them like humans, with dignity and respect. Peel off the label of "crazy" or "psych" from these people and give them hope. I used to tell these patients all the time that no matter who you are, everyone has problems of some sort. Theirs happened to be this and myself and staff where there to give them hope and strength to face their problems for the time being. That often changed the person perspective, know that even staff have things to work through and that they aren't the only ones who have to fight issues in the world. That they weren't alone and human.

Tokwan, if you come to the US, come to my area. I'll make sure you'll avoid the crazies!

[tundrabadger]

well spoken, natertot. Thanks for that.


I feel like I should share that people suffering from mental illness are 2.5 times more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of it.

[TXyakr]

I feel sympathy for the Search and Rescue teams that spend long hours way from family and endanger themselves looking for people who may be trying to hide. Years ago my wife's relative in AR was on crack and mentally ill and committed some violent crimes then stole my wife's grandmother's shot gun and fled into a National Forest Area. Law enforcement searched for him for many months but never found him. Over a year later a hunter found his remains deep under a juniper tree in a very remote area, where he had shot himself.
Personally I respect the work of Mental Health Care Professionals, it generally takes more compassion to work with the mentally ill and drug addicted than with the physically ill. Also those who have suffered from personal trauma and tragedy often benefit from many hours of Psychological Therapy which is very expensive and these hours of counseling are requirement for a degree in Psychology. Therefore it makes sense that some non-professionals would perceive Mental Health Professionals as crazy. I do not consider someone who has fully recovered from cancer to be sick or avoid them and stigmatize them, sick or not. Several close friends of mine are PhD Psychologists, one I attended grade school thru H.S. with, she works with children now. Another lifetime friend saw this father drown after saving him and his bother who fell out of a canoe in the wilderness and was traumatized and never recovered from it. His illness got progressively worse (age 4 to adult) and he has been institutionalized for decades. Very complex issues, but compassion is universal.

[Tokwan]

Hey Natertot...tell you what..if you can introduce me to some Zombies..preferably rednecks who became Zombies, I would love to go there..hahahahahahahaha...(really wonder if Rick is one?)

[Phaedrus]

Well said, Natertot. Lots of problems in the world can be mitigated with some kindness and compassion.

[Rick]

really wonder if Rick is one?

You work all your life to be the best moderator and no one calls you great. You die one time and come back to life and BAM everyone points their finger and calls you a zombie.

[natertot]

Hey Natertot...tell you what..if you can introduce me to some Zombies..preferably rednecks who became Zombies, I would love to go there..hahahahahahahaha...(really wonder if Rick is one?)

Ricks only one state away, we could find out!

[Rick]

Wait a minute. Is that state like euphoria or state like Indiana? Actually, I guess is doesn't matter. Both are accurate. I'm only one state away from crazy so......

[TXyakr]

You can go over to Syria or Iraq and fight for the Kurds and shoot at a bunch of Zombies coming at you. The Da'esh (aka ISIL) leaders force their Jihadi fighters to take hallucinogenic drugs that cause them to behave like zombies and keep on coming at you regardless of how terrified or injured they are. Only problem is that if you fight for the Kurds you will be violating US law and most European laws as well, and Gov of Turkey will also arrest you and their prisons are terrible. So Zombie fighting is best done on video games for now. So much for fun in the real world, it'll only get you stuck in jail or beheaded.

[Tokwan]

You work all your life to be the best moderator and no one calls you great. You die one time and come back to life and BAM everyone points their finger and calls you a zombie. [/COLOR]

Her her..I hereby declare..RICK is the best moderator in the world...the greatest beyond compare.!!!!..Hear Hear!!

[crashdive123]

I see how it is.

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[Tokwan]

Ok...now I would like to meet CD when he is a zombie...muahahahahahahahaha

[wilderness medic]

I was one of those guys and I still believe that to be true. My experience with psych staff is that they are nuttier than a squirrel turd, but, they have a caring heart to help people. I have yet to meet one that want's harm to come to someone, let alone cause that harm themselves.

Now, take all this wasted money on gun control and invest it into psychiatric care. Get the mental people that are on the streets that can never function in society into a permanent home with proper care. Take mentally ill who have shown to be physically aggressive and/or suicidal and give them proper long term treatment when it is needed. Invest into psychiatric care research like other health care research so better methods and treatments can become available.

So, yeah. I said it, and I still mean it. :tt2:

X100.

I had such an incorrect view on "crazy" people until some lets say "quality" time in the back of an ambulance with them. Closure of mental facilities really seems to have take it's toll... I did not realize just how many homeless people were not "just lazy" but seriously delusional and paranoid schizo... Really sad...

On the same note, I know people you would never think were any different until you got on a conversation about afterlife, crystal space light cities, multiverse parallel universe theories etc.... Things that would make you want to commit them, but they were totally normal otherwise. Just very unique out there theories and beliefs. So the term "nuttier than a squirrel turd" seems very subjective, unless you are referring to them being clinically insane. But in that case I don't think they'd hold that position.

[hunter63]

Yeah well,..... It's all fun and games till the Mother Ship shows up...........

[wilderness medic]

Yeah well,..... It's all fun and games till the Mother Ship shows up...........

Do NoT. I repeat. NOT drink the kook aid :)

Auto corrected to "kook aid" lol! Even more fitting.

[natertot]

Her her..I hereby declare..RICK is the best moderator in the world...the greatest beyond compare.!!!!..Hear Hear!!

Hey, Crash! Can we move this post to the "Joke of the Day" thread? :laugh:

[crashdive123]

You want me to move Tok to joke of the day.

I'll see what I can do, but he might not like it.:innocent:

[Rick]

Natertot, I have an assignment for you. 100 times please.

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[crashdive123]

100? You're letting him off easy.

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