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wilderness medic
11-08-2014, 01:52 AM
Anybody have a "survival gun" they keep stuffed away in their emergency bags or vehicles.

What do you have? Anything special or just a full sized regular small game rifle? Opinions on breakaway/compact "survival guns"

I had a Springfield M6 scout. It was the first gun I ever owned and it got destroyed. I really liked the thing. For years it always had a special place. It was heavy for a small survival rifle, and damn near prehistoric feeling. But something about a small game shotgun/rifle package that broke into two relatively small pieces always seemed interesting. It was surprisingly accurate too. I remember hitting a jackrabbit with those rinky-dink iron sights from so far away I shocked myself.

The AR-7 by Henry looks cool, a lot smaller and lightweight. But it is only a small cheap .22

I am in no hurry, and no real desire to buy one. I'd have to run out of other stuff to buy on my list first (and it's a long list), and get some extra money way before that if I did.


Just curious if anyone has one in there grab and go/emergency bag, and what your thoughts are on them. Great tool, or unnecessary weight addition to a bag. Of course this again depends on what your bag is for. I can't see ever needing to grab a bag and head to the hills living off of mice and birds, i.e. "bugging out" as a likely situation.

1stimestar
11-08-2014, 02:15 AM
What's the difference between a gun and a survival gun? I consider all my guns (if I were to admit having any) to be "survival" guns. Either survival to get meat, or survival to fend off unwanted 2 or 4 legged animals.

wilderness medic
11-08-2014, 02:31 AM
What's the difference between a gun and a survival gun? I consider all my guns (if I were to admit having any) to be "survival" guns. Either survival to get meat, or survival to fend off unwanted 2 or 4 legged animals.

That's kind of why I asked. Same argument as a "survival knife". All guns of course can be "survival gun". Curious if anyone had a dedicated gun that sat in a bag. A cheap one that really wouldn't be used for anything other than an emergency gun. Let's face it, no ones using the M6 or AR7 to target shoot...

1stimestar
11-08-2014, 05:03 AM
Hahhaha I have. They are fun.

randyt
11-08-2014, 07:54 AM
survival gun is a term a husband uses to justify a purchase or acquisition of a gun to the wife.

crashdive123
11-08-2014, 08:16 AM
I don't have a dedicated "survival gun" as you describe. I also don't have a "truck gun" as is often discussed. I do have quite a few choices depending on the activity or time of year. I've almost "pulled the trigger" on the AR7 a couple of times, but decided against it because although kind of cool and compact there were better, more versatile choices for my purposes.

kyratshooter
11-08-2014, 09:29 AM
Wilderness Medic, if you just go back through the archives on this one section you will find every one of your concerns addressed in detail.

There are a half dozen threads on the AR7 alone, another dozen on "truck guns", combination rifles get addressed three or four times annually and we have elevated the status of the Mosin Nagant to legend.

We have addressed cheap guns, expensive guns, underrated guns and overrated guns as well as overpowered guns and underpowered guns.

This is a survival forum and this is the guns and ammo section, so every word we speak, in general, addresses "survival guns".

Pick a thread, read it, learn something.

Rick
11-08-2014, 09:36 AM
I don't have a dedicated weapon either. Here's a pic of me during a bug out practice session. I'm heading for the canoe.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/survival_zps592c2b5c.jpg (http://s348.photobucket.com/user/safe_zone/media/survival_zps592c2b5c.jpg.html)

wilderness medic
11-08-2014, 12:14 PM
I don't have a dedicated weapon either. Here's a pic of me during a bug out practice session. I'm heading for the canoe.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/survival_zps592c2b5c.jpg (http://s348.photobucket.com/user/safe_zone/media/survival_zps592c2b5c.jpg.html)

Oh boy, about to be Christmas. Don't mind me...

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q754/WildernessMedic/scuba-diver-walking-into-the-ocean_zps11d41487.jpg (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/WildernessMedic/media/scuba-diver-walking-into-the-ocean_zps11d41487.jpg.html)

hunter63
11-08-2014, 12:35 PM
Guns?....What gun?....Don' no noting 'bout no guns?
All went down in the canoe.

Kyrat make a good point......This come down to the "What"s the best"...or ..."If you could only have.....?"
But I think a good place to start.......

What is the primary intended use?
.....And in your case what is legal.

Any gun "can" be a survival gun,.... HP, hunting,....but the type and caliber will tip one way or another if you want start specializing.

I picture the Savage M24 as a good foraging offering....and the are some newer offering out there......Savage M42 ( new M24)and Chiappa XCaliber (kinda an M6 clone).

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2677

AR7 ...had one didn't run, got it for a low price at a show.....now I know why....Gave it away.
Did add a Ruger take down 10/22....kinda heavy....but small.

.22 ammo is hard to find, still

The you get into hand guns, or EBR's and away ya go.

So pick one and try to fit it into your idea of what you what and need....

wilderness medic
11-08-2014, 04:36 PM
Kyrat make a good point......This come down to the "What"s the best"...or ..."If you could only have.....?"
But I think a good place to start.......


No, that's not what I was asking. I can make that decision myself, based on my needs. I was asking how many people have a dedicated "survival" rifle they keep in a bag. I use the term "survival" loosely, just a term for a small dedicated lightweight gun kept with your other gear, such as in a vehicle.

I'm not asking what's the best or what should I buy. I don't want to buy one. Perhaps years from now just because I thought it was "neat", not now.

If the various types have been discussed in depth (Sure they have given this site) I can go search for them. I was more curious about individual members having or not having one.


That XCaliber is pretty cool...but I wonder how it can shoot that many different calibers in the same barrel? Barrel must be thick enough for the highest pressure caliber increasing the weight. Cool idea though, gonna look more into that.

hunter63
11-08-2014, 05:00 PM
XCaliber uses barrel inserts for the various calibers and loads.

Not a big fan if inserts.

Vehicles have a least one truck gun 12 ga pump, legally case and secured out of reach.....and maybe handgun close by.......

Hunting fanny pack has something inside when out and about...revolver.

BOB out door 10/22 take down.

BOB urban.... Ruger LCP that may or may not be CC de jure.

.357 GP100 goes a lot of places....and can be found tucked away .....

Why, because I like to carry them.

1stimestar
11-08-2014, 05:11 PM
No, that's not what I was asking. I can make that decision myself, based on my needs. I was asking how many people have a dedicated "survival" rifle they keep in a bag.

I keep these in bags lol.

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wilderness medic
11-08-2014, 06:01 PM
^ Different for you, you live "bugged out" 24/7! Obviously for people who live remote, every gun is a survival gun. You rely on it. I don't even think having to bug out would change much? Now i'm curious, besides your cabin burning down or an avalanche or something you're already secluded and set aren't you?


Hunter- WTF. So in order to utilize it as described you have to carry all those inserts? Googled them and they look like spare barrels. Seems to defeat the purpose, apparently inserts aren't new for that gun.

Here in a vehicle the bag would have to be locked, unless it was in a separate bag designed for a gun, then in a bag. I'd be a bit hesitant to leave it in a vehicle 24/7. When I have to leave my handgun in my car I have it cabled to at least slow someone down from stealing it.

natertot
11-08-2014, 06:27 PM
I agree with everything everyone has posted so far.

I keep a full size 9mm with me non-stop around the house and out on the town for the 2 legged issues. During hunting, hiking, camping, fishing, and the like activities I keep a single action Ruger 357 with a 6.5" barrel on hand. I keep 357 loads and some #6 shot shells for it. It can be used for all type of critters and food gathering if needed. Finally, a 12ga Pump is usually kept tucked in the trunk with a variety of ammo for all kinds of purposes.

Those three cover a lot and I can't think of a reason why I can't get through a situation with them.

hunter63
11-08-2014, 07:09 PM
..................
Hunter- WTF. So in order to utilize it as described you have to carry all those inserts? Googled them and they look like spare barrels. Seems to defeat the purpose, apparently inserts aren't new for that gun.



Yes that's about it....
Quote for their site>
X -Caliber is designed for use in any condition and with any ammunition available. Originally designed with two calibers, a rifled .22 LR and a smooth bore .12 GA -, this rifle can fire up to 12 different calibers thanks to the 8 steel adapters supplied. In addition to the two original gauges, adapters allow you to shoot 8 pistol calibers ( .380 , 9 mm , .357Mag/.38SP , .40 S & W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP , .410/.45colt ) and two shotgun calibers (410 ga, 20ga), combining the flexibility of a shotgun and the power of a rifled gun.
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randyt
11-08-2014, 08:57 PM
TBH I keep a remington 700 in 30-06 very handy. For a beater I keep a eddystone in 30-06 very handy.

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 12:11 AM
Wilderness Medic I feel you have the concept that everyone has a pile of gear, or a bag, that thy set aside and point at is and say "this is the survival stuff", when it should be evident that is not the case with most of us here.

Many of us are on small holdings, homesteads or live in rural areas and a better question would be "What gun is sitting in the corner by the back door?"

My EDC gun and the gun in my vehicle are carried for the once or twice in a lifetime that they might be needed. The gun in the corner by the back door is used daily and fired often for predator control or in case supper wanders past the porch. If the critters kill all my chickens my homesteading plans are shot to he!!.

The ones that do not live in a rural area view our gear as camping gear first and survival gear second, with only a few items directed exclusively use in a "survival situation", which we do not see as an end of the world event.

The gear and guns can be pressed into service for emergency use, but they are not segregated and used only for that purpose.

wilderness medic
11-09-2014, 12:18 AM
Wilderness Medic I feel you have the concept that everyone has a pile of gear, or a bag, that thy set aside and point at is and say "this is the survival stuff", when it should be evident that is not the case with most of us here.

Many of us are on small holdings, homesteads or live in rural areas and a better question would be "What gun is sitting in the corner by the back door?"

My EDC gun and the gun in my vehicle are carried for the once or twice in a lifetime that they might be needed. The gun in the corner by the back door is used daily and fired often for predator control or in case supper wanders past the porch. If the critters kill all my chickens my homesteading plans are shot to he!!.

The ones that do not live in a rural area view our gear as camping gear first and survival gear second, with only a few items directed exclusively use in a "survival situation", which we do not see as an end of the world event.

The gear and guns can be pressed into service for emergency use, but they are not segregated and used only for that purpose.

I understand a lot of you are small homesteaders, and this is more every day gear than "survival gear" But surely you guys have an emergency vehicle bag in the event you come home and your house is gone? All that gear in your house does you no good if it's all in your house, and not with you. Without trying to sound rude, I didn't have an interest in the "gun sitting in the corner by your back door" I am more interested to know if you have a small rifle designated for a vehicle or bag, in the event you don't have the guns in your home. It sounds like most people have either a truck shotgun/rifle, or at least their carry.

So, as much as I hate the term "Bug out" bag, this was more geared towards the bag/bags you have with you for a disaster. I guess only an EDC or vehicle bag.

Rick
11-09-2014, 07:55 AM
This also goes back to the carry thread. Those of us that carry everywhere have our weapons on us all the time. They aren't stored in a vehicle. Since none of my vehicles have a trunk that would mean they would have to be in the open somewhere unless they are a pistol, which we carry. Having a long gun open in a vehicle, even cased, is sort of asking for it to be stolen. There is no place in my truck that a long gun could be hidden.

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 10:20 AM
I understand a lot of you are small homesteaders, and this is more every day gear than "survival gear" But surely you guys have an emergency vehicle bag in the event you come home and your house is gone? All that gear in your house does you no good if it's all in your house, and not with you. Without trying to sound rude, I didn't have an interest in the "gun sitting in the corner by your back door" I am more interested to know if you have a small rifle designated for a vehicle or bag, in the event you don't have the guns in your home. It sounds like most people have either a truck shotgun/rifle, or at least their carry.

So, as much as I hate the term "Bug out" bag, this was more geared towards the bag/bags you have with you for a disaster. I guess only an EDC or vehicle bag.

Again, you do but you don't, you will but you won't, you don't care but you do, so sorry for you.

No is not an acceptable answer, and yes is not an acceptable answer.

Every conversation anyone enters with you becomes ridicule and argument that has no end.

the others can toss you around for a while but you just made my ignore list.

wilderness medic
11-09-2014, 10:51 AM
This also goes back to the carry thread. Those of us that carry everywhere have our weapons on us all the time. They aren't stored in a vehicle. Since none of my vehicles have a trunk that would mean they would have to be in the open somewhere unless they are a pistol, which we carry. Having a long gun open in a vehicle, even cased, is sort of asking for it to be stolen. There is no place in my truck that a long gun could be hidden.

So it sounds like some do some don't. I agree it seems like it's sort of asking to be stolen.



Again, you do but you don't, you will but you won't, you don't care but you do, so sorry for you.

No is not an acceptable answer, and yes is not an acceptable answer.

Every conversation anyone enters with you becomes ridicule and argument that has no end.

the others can toss you around for a while but you just made my ignore list.

Ouch my feelings :) Sorry you're so grumpy. Did you know if you don't want to participate, you don't have to? Amazing isn't it. Yes is an acceptable answer and so is no. So is discussing, the point of an open forum I might add. Next time i'll just agree with everything and not ask questions. Oh KY, thank you , I agree with everything you say, I don't need an opinion or the option to think for myself.

You're controntationalism started back on my SCAR thread when you misunderstood me and insinuated I bought something as a table top show piece to impress people.

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 11:06 AM
Sorry WM, I can not reply, you are just a white strip on the screen that tells me you are still there.

wilderness medic
11-09-2014, 11:11 AM
But yet you still took the time to reply to let me know, thanks for taking time out of your day to make sure I knew how much you dislike me :)

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 11:32 AM
OK, someone PM me and let me know,

Has he gone into the personal attack and degrading insult stage yet, or is he in self righteous persecution phase ?

wilderness medic
11-09-2014, 11:36 AM
Wow, you are hilarious. If you want to know what I have to say why'd you put my on ignore? Someone PM what he's saying! LOL!!!!! It must be raining outside again right? :munchies::yawnb: How old are you again? And no that's not a personal attack, it's my opinion that you're acting childish and resorting to a game of sorts like that.

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 12:07 PM
California ?

hunter63
11-09-2014, 12:30 PM
Consider this........
If you call it a survival gun....surviving....that's a good thing right?

So it could be "Honey, gonna be needing me a "survival" gun.......Guys are talking about them again"

She, "Well, Dear ,what about all the rifles, shot guns, and pistol you already have.....I mean before the canoe incident?'

Me, "Those are for other stuff, I talking real survival, you wanna survive?....Right?"

She, "Good Idea Dear.....better go find a good one".


I rest my case.

crashdive123
11-09-2014, 01:18 PM
Krat - I think you're off base here.

As Rick stated, it is not an issue or a consideration for many because they usually have a firearm with them. For a few - they do have a dedicated truck or bag gun.

I see this as a very pertinent topic by the OP based on gun laws where he lives (not everybody can or wants to move right now) and what he has recently experienced with the fire.

There was certainly no ridicule or argument coming from him - just what I perceived to be a serious question. Remember - we all have different experiences and miles behind us.

kyratshooter
11-09-2014, 01:57 PM
OK Crash, then the answer to the OP is NO, just as it was in the first 9 replies from me and others, which do not seem to have been acceptable.

And the problem will not occur again.

crashdive123
11-09-2014, 03:24 PM
No or none is an acceptable answer. I saw it merely as a question looking for what other members here chose to do. If that answer is no, then so be it.

randyt
11-09-2014, 06:53 PM
Consider this........
If you call it a survival gun....surviving....that's a good thing right?

So it could be "Honey, gonna be needing me a "survival" gun.......Guys are talking about them again"

She, "Well, Dear ,what about all the rifles, shot guns, and pistol you already have.....I mean before the canoe incident?'

Me, "Those are for other stuff, I talking real survival, you wanna survive?....Right?"

She, "Good Idea Dear.....better go find a good one".


I rest my case.

lets not forget about spares and spares for our spares.

natertot
11-10-2014, 02:44 AM
I agree with KyRat said regarding that a lot of us view our gear as sports gear first and then pressed into survival gear as needed. I live in a subdivision and definitely fall into that category. It is great when the power goes out and the neighborhood freaks out not knowing what to do. Me? I head to the back yard and start a fire in the fire pit. Next I fill up the coolers and cook some dinner. After that, it playing cards or board games on the picnic table. Maybe let the kiddos run around with water guns. If power isn't on by night, pitch a tent up cause it's much cooler outside than inside at night. Next morning I wake refreshed and ready to cook breakfast while everyone around me appears to be ready to fall out to heat exhaustion.

That is kinda how it works for me.

Wilderness Medic, I think that crash is right about you. You were/are asking a sincere question. I think what befalls you is the presentation. It seems the way you say things can be confusing. Not wrong, just a bit hard to understand in entirety. A response is given (the best it can given the confusion) and you're not happy with it because it doesn't match up to what you are seeking, because the responder was confused. This cycle happens a few times and it does begin to appear that you are jerking the proverbial chain a bit. Not that you are, it just somewhat give that impression.

I'm not saying any of that to give you a hard time. Just trying to help you understand where some folks are coming from. KyRat is a great guy. I have met up with him a few times and he is absolutely the most knowledgeable gun guy here. I hope you can make amends with him cause you can learn a lot from him and he is willing to share is knowledge to those that are open minded to learning.

Tokwan
11-10-2014, 03:14 AM
Hehe..okay okay, no more getting sore on anyone else..I have only two..one a Colt 45 pistol a nd an Anschultz ( don't mind the spelling, I always spell it wrong), D series .22 rifle..that 's about the only huntingm protect my self, protect my family, survival, go to war gun that I have.

wilderness medic
11-10-2014, 11:53 AM
I agree with KyRat said regarding that a lot of us view our gear as sports gear first and then pressed into survival gear as needed. I live in a subdivision and definitely fall into that category. It is great when the power goes out and the neighborhood freaks out not knowing what to do. Me? I head to the back yard and start a fire in the fire pit. Next I fill up the coolers and cook some dinner. After that, it playing cards or board games on the picnic table. Maybe let the kiddos run around with water guns. If power isn't on by night, pitch a tent up cause it's much cooler outside than inside at night. Next morning I wake refreshed and ready to cook breakfast while everyone around me appears to be ready to fall out to heat exhaustion.

That is kinda how it works for me.

Wilderness Medic, I think that crash is right about you. You were/are asking a sincere question. I think what befalls you is the presentation. It seems the way you say things can be confusing. Not wrong, just a bit hard to understand in entirety. A response is given (the best it can given the confusion) and you're not happy with it because it doesn't match up to what you are seeking, because the responder was confused. This cycle happens a few times and it does begin to appear that you are jerking the proverbial chain a bit. Not that you are, it just somewhat give that impression.

I'm not saying any of that to give you a hard time. Just trying to help you understand where some folks are coming from. KyRat is a great guy. I have met up with him a few times and he is absolutely the most knowledgeable gun guy here. I hope you can make amends with him cause you can learn a lot from him and he is willing to share is knowledge to those that are open minded to learning.


There only thing wrong with the first couple answers is they had nothing to do with what I was asking. I did ask it in a confusing way, that's my fault for not being able to convey what I was really trying to ask and I apologize. If I sound like i'm unappreciative or rude, again I apologize. I am not. Anything I say in the future or have said that seems rude is most likely a good humored joke, i'm not here to throw personal insults or stir things up. Thank you for pointing our what I may be doing wrong to cause this. It's the internet, things often don't come out with the same "tone of voice" etc. I thoroughly enjoy this site and its members and appreciate the knowledge available here.

Ky may be a great guy. I've enjoyed his knowledgeable posts about firearms for several years and appreciated them. However a lot of respect I had for him is going away. How many times has he brought up where I live and tried to use it as a personal insult? Pure rude ignorance. I've lived in KY and I can think of about 49 other states I would live in. But i'm not going to sit here and throw it at him in an insulting way and base what he says off his "Kentucky logic". Everyone has their own tastes and if he chooses to live there, his decision, and I respect he likes it. Just about every post interaction i've had with him so far has been negative, mostly based on his disagreement with my choices/beliefs. I can respect his and not results to the "personal attack and degrading insult stage".

Rick
11-10-2014, 12:02 PM
Actually, I think you misunderstood. Most references to California is about the political climate and the anti-gun agenda they seem to be so proud of. No one disses the state otherwise.

We all need to remember that the forum is a two dimensional medium. When you can't see the other speaker it makes it really hard sometimes to understand what they are saying or how they mean it. Everyone is always welcome to attack the message but never the messenger. We can disagree and still be ladies and gentlemen.

I did remove some language from your post, WM, that I thought was inappropriate. Just a heads up on that.

wilderness medic
11-10-2014, 12:34 PM
Actually, I think you misunderstood. Most references to California is about the political climate and the anti-gun agenda they seem to be so proud of. No one disses the state otherwise.

We all need to remember that the forum is a two dimensional medium. When you can't see the other speaker it makes it really hard sometimes to understand what they are saying or how they mean it. Everyone is always welcome to attack the message but never the messenger. We can disagree and still be ladies and gentlemen.

I did remove some language from your post, WM, that I thought was inappropriate. Just a heads up on that.

In KYs posts it seemed obvious that it was thrown around more as an insult. How is the one liner above "California?" while he's expressing his dislike for me anything else? If it is and I misunderstood sorry. You are right, not seeing the other speaker makes it hard to see any inflection or inference one something typed.

Can you please PM what was removed so I can avoid it again? I read that twice and thought nothing bad was in it.

hunter63
11-10-2014, 06:04 PM
Not gonna belabor this, But.
Looking at your posts from this thread, that you stared, was a question about who does or what does one consider or carry....

When serious responses came in....seems your position was making fun or letting others know that you didn't consider it a requirement.

I'm getting a passive/aggressive vibe, (trolling technique) that is apparent to others as well.....and this goes back to some of your posts in the afraid of camping along thread. #30 being one.

I hope not,... as we all either are for, against or neutral on guns.......an infighting amongst the for seems to sway the neutrals.

Time will tell.........
I'm done.
Returning to the regularly scheduled "ask a question then trash the answers".....Thread.



I hope not

wilderness medic
11-10-2014, 06:28 PM
Not gonna belabor this, But.
Looking at your posts from this thread, that you stared, was a question about who does or what does one consider or carry....

When serious responses came in....seems your position was making fun or letting others know that you didn't consider it a requirement.

I'm getting a passive/aggressive vibe, (trolling technique) that is apparent to others as well.....and this goes back to some of your posts in the afraid of camping along thread. #30 being one.

I hope not,... as we all either are for, against or neutral on guns.......an infighting amongst the for seems to sway the neutrals.

Time will tell.........
I'm done.
Returning to the regularly scheduled "ask a question then trash the answers".....Thread.



I hope not

Please, for the love of god, quote where I made fun of someone.

Consider what a requirement? That the term "survival" be placed in front of it? Who is trashing your answer, feel free to quote me, please. I have read, and reread this thread, and do not see where I have said none of your answers were good enough, or trashed them. I asked the question in a manner I didn't mean to, and corrected myself. Your answers didn't apply because I ASKED IT WRONG.

Post #30 in that thread as well, as I fail to see any "Passive/aggressiveness" mainly for in order for that term to apply one would first have to act aggressively. Please show me in that post where I acted aggressively. Was it the part where I agreed if you can carry a gun everywhere, do it, I don't blame you? (Now i'm being facetious).

Here comes the pack mentality. Is my apology not good enough for you? I am not a troll, if I was I wouldn't have donated money I don't have to this site to help out other members. Now i'm getting really dissuaded from this place.

hunter63
11-10-2014, 06:37 PM
You know,..... I was wrong....and over reacted.....I apologize.

wilderness medic
11-10-2014, 06:39 PM
You know,..... I was wrong....and over reacted.....I apologize.

Thank you.. I am sorry too for any negative way my posts or replies have sounded. I am seriously not meaning to act in any way negatively to any members.

1stimestar
11-10-2014, 07:16 PM
Just curious if anyone has one in there grab and go/emergency bag, and what your thoughts are on them. Great tool, or unnecessary weight addition to a bag. Of course this again depends on what your bag is for. I can't see ever needing to grab a bag and head to the hills living off of mice and birds, i.e. "bugging out" as a likely situation.

Ok ok I'll answer a bit. I keep my .357 by my front (and only) door. Sometimes I take it to bed with me depending on what is going on in my work (which sometimes involves unpleasant stalkery people). Sometimes I take it to work with me. Sometimes I take it when walking the dog, sometimes I don't, again, depends on the climate of the day. I always take it when ever I go out of town for any reason on any type of trips.

natertot
11-11-2014, 07:10 AM
In KYs posts it seemed obvious that it was thrown around more as an insult. How is the one liner above "California?" while he's expressing his dislike for me anything else? If it is and I misunderstood sorry. You are right, not seeing the other speaker makes it hard to see any inflection or inference one something typed.

Rick is right in that a lot of us don't hate California itself, it is the political climate there which many of us strongly disagree with. I've been there and thought it was a nice place to visit. I'd go back, but not out of my way to do so. Mostly because there are other places I'd rather go instead. One thing that I have noticed about people in general is that they may not agree with everything around them, but it is still home and they will fight to the death for it. When a location is "attacked" we feel we are being attacked because we love our home, when in reality it is nothing personal at all. We have two members here (Ken and Bennesse) that are in a similar boat as you.

I guess all I am saying is let it go. I think you are an okay guy, just don't take stuff personally. We are people that you have never met, after all. What do we really matter?

rebel
11-11-2014, 08:05 PM
Thinkin 'bout a mares leg. Short and sweet.

AmericanWolverine
11-13-2014, 11:07 AM
I have a little Crosman 2289G Backpacker and Predator Metalmag pellets for my day hiking kit. Weighs just over 2lbs and is push button take-down. I limit it to 15 yards due to the 12in barrel. I also limit it to Rabbit or similar sized game with a head shot. This is it's sole purpose. It's NOT meant for defense.

cwlongshot
11-15-2014, 09:11 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Little%20Badger%20maggie/8378985F-A24D-45F0-94AB-32B78DC53A1B_zpslrcgdyzz.jpg

22 magnum :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Little%20Badger%20maggie/F0F8D1DB-5807-4512-8E5A-57E507A887A3_zps1zitrkrc.jpg

25 Yards

CW

hunter63
11-15-2014, 09:59 PM
Now that's a good example of a survival gun....Thanks for posting.
Well done.

Rick
11-16-2014, 10:19 AM
That is pretty slick. Nice job.

wilderness medic
11-16-2014, 04:14 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Little%20Badger%20maggie/8378985F-A24D-45F0-94AB-32B78DC53A1B_zpslrcgdyzz.jpg

22 magnum :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Little%20Badger%20maggie/F0F8D1DB-5807-4512-8E5A-57E507A887A3_zps1zitrkrc.jpg

25 Yards

CW

Now THAT is cool. What is it...?

RangerXanatos
11-16-2014, 04:35 PM
The chiappa little cricket. Comes in 22 magnum or 22 lr for around $150 I believe.

cwlongshot
11-16-2014, 05:57 PM
Thanks guys!!


The chiappa little cricket. Comes in 22 magnum or 22 lr for around $150 I believe.

CLOSE!! :clap:


Now THAT is cool. What is it...?

Thank you! Its a Chiappa Little Badger! :)

Price and caliber is spot on. They have talked 17 but I haven't seen any.

I was just shooting it today...at 200 yards!! 6-8" groups!!! 2x scope whos dot was bigger then the target I was aiming at!! LOL

This gun shoots one hole at 50', under 1/2" at 25yards, just over a inch at 50 yards. PLENTY accurate for what I need or would use it for!

CW

RangerXanatos
11-16-2014, 06:00 PM
Thanks for the correction. I've thought about getting one but I don't really NEED one.

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